THEY GOT ME GAL ~ Heartstopper S2 Reaction EP7&8 ~
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Hey guys, I'm back with another video!! So, i sat down one last time for the final instalment of Heartstopper Season 2. To no one’s surprise this was definitely the most intense and emotional yet… and yes they MIGHT have got me weeping. Enjoy!! xoxo
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Out of all the parents, I think it’s Tao’s mum who is the most accepting and lovely out of them all. She would have known Elle from before her transition, from when she was at the boys school. And her excitement at the relationship between Elle and Tao I’d beautiful. She can’t wait to tell the aunties all the news and gossip. I love her.
Yea is probably the best mom in the show tbh
Yes, Olivia Colman is so lovely but Taos mum is the GOAT 💜🌈
Give us that Nick's mom and Tao's mom BROTP (QueenTP? MomTP?) in s3!
I do believe that Tao’s mom and nicks mom are on the same level.
@@gabrielcastaneda9700 definitely
I feel like you can tell on Ben's face that he didn't realize that what he had been doing was so bad because when Charlie asks him about their first kiss, Ben smiles, he thinks of it as a fond memory. He never realized he was so toxic. There are totally men like that who exert power over people without really realizing and never pondering how it affects the other person.
Given the parent's day scene, not to stereotype, but I'm almost certain he never had a healthy relationship modeled for him at home, so that kind of control seemed normal (not to stereotype, but Mr. Hope smellt like Brexit. It's like they told the actor "do an impression of Boris Johnson as Ben's dad")
That scene was SO well acted!
So many mixed emotions here! I believe Ben does recognize he is toxic to Charlie on the multiple occasions because after each one, he offers his lame apology and believes he truly has apologized to Charlie until during their study hall time Nick forces him to better see how much he hurt Charlie I, too, felt bad for Ben during his sincere apology at Lambert, but if he was truly truly regretful he would not still be acting like a douchebag. Actions will always speak louder than words. In real life, people will tell you and show you who they really are. Bash seems like a lovely human being and it would have been amazing to see Ben really turn around. For me, I’m sad and a bit scared for the Ben character because he is in such a dark place and literally has not one person in his corner. Hopefully, he really does see how rotten he has been and does make better decisions moving forward……especially now that he sees just how happy he could be. I understand he has an unsupportive home life but that doesn’t give him the right to be so nasty to people. That’s the part that is unforgivable. That’s why Charlie has no forgiveness for Ben. If Ben’s parents can’t accept and love him for who he truly is, maybe they are who he needs to walk away from until they can….if that’s even possible. FAMILY is not always who you’re born into. Seek out and find the right people and surround yourself with them. 💛💙.
@@gem3614I noticed that too as well. Ben apologized was so off and half assed.
@@pinksenshi9690 Joe as Charlie pointing to the back of his head when he was talking about the voice in the back of his mind. In a review, Joe's Charlie portrayal was reviewed as intelligent and I agree. Subtle choice, but very well acted.
Tori left David speechless love it
Yea. Tori is a superstar
@@jessm.porthos fr
When that scene came on I was over the moon. I'm glad Tori put him in his place, slay queen! ❤
Let's just bathe in the fact that Tori, a 17 yo, left David, a 21 yo, speechless with her actions and her threat. It takes one hell of a person to do that and actually mean it, Tori is such a person.
maybe this is my broken wattpad brain, but am i the only one seeing enemies to lovers?😅🫣
imogen looking at Sahar... Tao really is the token ally
😂😂😂
Oh yeah. Imogen might be more than an Ally. ;-)
technically tho he’s not fully an ally
@@meganmcleod6152 yes he is? tf are you talking about
@@meganmcleod6152 wdym
Ben rejecting the pride flag was such an amazing visual that tells you everything without words.
and he is rejecting it because of his parents. I felt really bad for him in that scene. They already announced that he will not be in Season 3, but we can hope for Season 4 as HEARTSTOPPER series becomes it's own story and not relying on the books so much anymore.
I didn’t get it at first… it was nice to get the explanation afterward. That put it under a different light!!!
@@CAMPFIRESKY I think the whole point is that it's not because of his parents. At that one moment he is completely alone and unjudged, no influence on him whatsoever apart from his own wishes. And, in the end, it is his own decision to walk away and continue down the path of toxicity.
@@CAMPFIRESKYI pretty sure this is the end of Ben's story. In the comic, his story ends at Harry's party, but in the show we got more of Ben and how he affected Charlie. I'm pretty sure Alice and Bash see Ben's exit from the Lambert after talking with Charlie as the end of Ben's story.
@@CAMPFIRESKY Season 3 should be the last one ..
Nicks dad is a perfect example of that some people just aren't meant to be parents. He seems to love the boys deep down but doesn't know how to be a father.
Yeah that’s a great way to explain it :)
Yea, he clearly genuinely loves them, but has a horrible way of showing it. Also that comment when nick and charlie meet him in the cafe and he says "You never visit" is like him completely ignoring the neglection he's been doing for years
I 100% agree
you’ve just explained something i’ve been trying to grasp my whole life. thank you ❤
@@Naysseveredheadthe way he said “you never visit” yet he’s clearly got married to another woman and Nick has never met her 🤯
As an aroace person, this representation means everything. When I figured out my asexuality I hadn't seen a single asexual character in a show/movie, didn't know anyone openly asexual. The scene with Isac at the art exhibition made me cry and I just wanna hug him and tell him he's not broken and that everything's gonna be alright
Isaac's scene with the ace artist had me in tears. I didn't know how deeply the asexual representation in this show would effect me. I hope there is more in season 3.
omg SAME. Had me BAWLING! I would have loved this kind of representation when I was younger because I was definitely that person who thought something was wrong with me until I learned about asexuality and aromanticism.
you might like Bojack Horseman. It came out years ago and there is an asexual character in that show, good representation
exactly! being represented in this show meant the world to me and if i had that when i was figuring myself out it would have gone so much better. our community really does need more representation.
i wanted to just hug isaac so bad this season. hope to see more in season 3.
no fr it made me sob like a baby and it still does!!
I’m here for the moral dilemma Brad goes through hating Ben but fancying Sebastian. Then again, that’s all of us. (With exceptions)
Not my lesbian self( but bash is quite handsome)
@@i_love_band_whoo_band_whoo Should’ve added an asterisk lol Jk
Sameee❤❤😂😂
exactly
Same
Fun fact: right after Tori kicks David’s phone out of his hand and threatens him should he be a dick again, there’s a little crunch sound as she walks down the stairs.
That’s because in the comic, she specifically steps on and cracks David’s phone screen with her combat boots as she walks down the stairs. Same thing happened here in the show, they just don’t visually show it happening.
Honestly I was kinda disappointed not to see that bit 😆 I'm glad you mentioned the crunch sound because I'm slightly deaf and I don't always pick up on subtler sound effects like that (and if the closed captions don't mention it either, I'm really screwed). I could not hear that SFX at all and I was thinking, "but doesn't she step on the phone???"
that'd genius
I love that
I also love that as everyone is leaving you can hear Tori in the background telling Nick that his brother is a prick 😂
I've said this like 10+ times. The language of "promise me to tell me if it ever gets that bad again" instead of "promise me you'll stop" or "stop for me" I've had people tell me "stop for me" and when I did eventually slip up it was worse bc I let people down. The language that they used is absolutely amazing. Because somewhere there's a kid who needs to know that it's ok. It's ok not to be ok and this show captures that so so well. I love this show so much
Agree 100%, my parents did the "promise me you'll never hurt yourself again" thing and I didn't feel supported so much as that I needed to take care of their feelings. Whereas my partner of 7 years has been so supportive and just asked me to talk to them when I feel those urges to self-harm. It might sound like a small change in language but the impact is HUGE.
@@Cr0ut0n it does! People who don't have that understanding or who haven't gone through it don't really understand how much of an impact it makes.
Your comment gave me chills. I LOVE how everything is handled so delicately and so thoughtfully in this show. I don't care if it isn't realistic to how teens would all act - this is the fantasy we NEED! We need good examples for how to retreat each other!
@@pinksenshi9690 I'm a huge believer that Alice made this as a hope that it's what school can be like in the future. It handles hard and dark topics like it's nothing to be ashamed of. It's really not anything to be ashamed of. It shows that it's ok to not be ok. It shows somewhat how to see the signs that someones not ok. It shows what shows need. While it may not be realistic it's a show that we can all escape to. A show that gives queer youth a hope that it does get better. A show that says even if you are struggling or have struggled in the past whether it be a bad home life, an ED, a past of SH, figuring out your sexuality it shows that you can be happy. That you can recover that it does get better. I'm probably off the original topic but eh whatever. This show will show a young kid that they aren't unnatural that they arnt something to be afraid of that they are human they aren't scary. And idk this show and Alice and the producers and director and all of the cast and crew have done something amazing. And I know that's as a long tangent 😭😭 sorry 😭
words are EVERYTHING
Tbh I felt so sorry for isaac in this episodes. The friends group is so supportive always but it looks like he gets forgotten between all the first love drama 🥺 he literally shouting at his friends like he would never do normally and NO ONE follows him, no one asks him, no one tells him, that he isn’t alone and that he would be listend, if he wanted to talk. No one even texted him afterwards. This really hurts 🥺
i’ve since the first season always felt bad for isaac. some people (whether they are ace or not) should be friends! that’s the one thing this show is lacking. a proper friendship coz all of this friend group are in relationships (apart from isaac)
I think sometimes it's because he was just reading but THIS SEASON I felt so bad as he was being more social and he barely got talked to.
@@Izzywildflowerr but I thing this is why Brad comes along… their relationship, even though it’s platonic, could be really supportive.
Tbf he did explicitly say “I don’t want to talk about it” 🤷🏻♂️
@@Liam-mv9ziabsolutely, personally if I say that I need space
What makes the last scene all the more powerful and impressive is the fact that it took them 7 hrs to film the scene. Apparently both of them were so emotionally exhausted that when it was done they both remained silent for about an hour afterwards. Both of these young men deserve every accolade and kudos. A literal masterclass on Acting.
The acting is just ON TOP!! i cant believe how good it is
Do you have a source for that? I'm not doubting you, I just want to read/watch it!
@@totalweirdo8538 it's a teen vogue interview i think joe and kit did together(?) for season 2, but i've seen someone say it was just kit but i can't remember exactly. i don't have a link unfortunately, i just remember ppl sharing screeshots of the interview on twitter and freaking out abt it.
I love how quiet and intimate their exchange was, yet so full of hard truths and unconditional acceptance. What we are witnessing here are two safe harbours for two hearts in rough waters. Nick's tears were the perfect grace note for this scene. I am amazed at how good they are - the 7 hours did not go to waste.
@@leilanyx Yup, put the link in text form below
THE FRUIT LIFTING WHEN IMOGEN WAS WATCHING THE PERFORMANCE KILLED ME 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Me too 😂😂
Came to the comments for this 🤣🤣
The purple clouds coming out of Darcy's house to signify its a toxic environment utterly astounded me the first time I watched
It really killed me because it reminded me of my own home life honestly. I've come home from work and sat in my car for 15 minutes in front of my house cause I didn't want to go in. To have a show depict a physical manifestation of a toxic home life in that way, it was a bit like finding the words to describe something I didn't understand (honestly a bit like Isaac's talk with the aroace artist). Like, I've /seen/ that dark cloud coming out of my house before.
That conversation between Nick and Tao at prom setup was everything. Writing, direction, and acting spot on! The look Nick gives Tao after finding out that Tao’s dad passed away, and the sudden understanding that comes with this revelation, and then the look Nick gives Tao when he realizes that Charlie didn’t even confide the bullying in his best friend but has kept it all bottled up. Such a well-done and very emotional scene.
Tao’s “me neither” is GUT WRENCHING!! I need to find a reaction where someone catches it it makes me wanna cry every time
@@clara4174 Same, that was like a stomach dropping moment for me, when you realize Charlie has truly been carrying this all by himself.
i like that we got to see darcy’s family situation & it also gave us a parallel between the difference in attitudes with how you want to act even when your family situation is bad:
darcy & ben have the same type of family situation (from what i understood) and they both have handled it in completely different ways. darcy stays her caring, happy self whereas ben is manipulative
But the thing is, that is just 1 factor. Darcy ends up separating herself in two, and has a support system with her friends with whom she can be herself. Ben doesnt, they even show how more and more isolated he is through the season. It doesnt justify his actions in any way and I think the show has done a very good job on that matter. But the psyche of people is influenced by more than one factor.
And regardless of the behavior this generate, no queer 16 year olds should have to grow up in a family they do not feel safe in
@@n0emiette i didn’t think about it in that way! that’s really interesting
@@n0emiettebut at this point he is choosing to have no support. He has been given multiple opportunities at school to be a better person despite his home life.
There is no reason that Darcy couldn't have gone the way of Ben. She internalizes the bullying whereas Ben inflicts it on others
Neither is good but Ben can't act dumb like he doesn't know he hurts people
His final scene was showing how even given the chance to embrace who he is in a safe space he turns away
He has a long personal journey ahead of him and I imagine he will hurt a lot more people along the way but it won't be xharlie anymore
@@KittyKatTube [disclaimer, i will only continue this discussion if you genuinely want to have that discussion in a polite way, accepting not everyone sees things the same. If you just want to fight and insult, let's stop the convo right there]
Choosing requires having multiple choices. I dont see where is the choice of support. He definitely doesnt have it at home, and his group of friend is shit (and we see him isolate himself more and more in this season. So he isnt even close to this group of friends )
And as I explained it in my previous comment, that is what separates Ben and Darcy. Darcy has support at school. She has known Tara for 5 years before they got together, they both have friends at Higgs who knew about their relationship so who are supportive. Ben has the group of Harry and the other boys who laugh at Harry's homophobic bullying. Doesnt mean it excuses his behavior, I'm strictly talking about why the Ben and Darcy comparaisons are way more complicated that people make it out to be.
There is also the difference with the parents. We know that Darcy's mum is abusive regardless of her kid's sexuality. "Nothing I ever do is good enough for her". Even without being out, her mum is horrible. Ben seems to have an ok relationship with his parents but fears how it would switch if they found out he's queer, that his parents could become abusive. While Darcy has a horrible home life, she doesnt live with that fear of the if, she lives it. Which is horrible, but that difference has a huge impact on behaviors.
I think people underestimate how much you can become self centered when you are hurt or scared and how much you can become oblivious to the hurt you are causing to others. It's not acting dumb, these are just very strong emotions that can take full control of your brain. I am not talking about the assault of course, but for the rest, I really think he was so caught up in his fear that he did not realize how his toxic behavior was affecting Charlie. And we clearly see it in the last scene, when Charlie mentions their first kiss and he smiles. And then Charlie talks about this event from his perspective and it feels like a ton of bricks dropped on Ben because he had not truly stopped to consider how it all affected Charlie, and how deeply. For me, this realization that the key element that was missing for Ben to really start evolving (even though his apology was genuine. He was still acting self centered, only considering his feelings)
I didnt take him turning his back on the rainbow wave as him turning his back on the community and continuing on his destructive path. I would have assumed that if he had recoiled from the wave and immediatly run away, but he didnt. He thought about it. But it was just not where he was at yet. He still has a lot of thinking to do about himself before he is able to join the community without hurting anyone else. So no I dont think he will "hurt a lot more people along the way" like you said but yes he has a long personal journey ahead of him [And from Alice's words, he will get better in the future]
@n0emiette i love a discussion not sure if you got a bad vibe from my comment but your brackets were intense.
Maybe I misread your comment or missed something on the show but my understanding is that Darcys mom doesn't know she is a lesbian either. So her situation seems even more challenging than Ben. Ben has an if whereas darcy has a definitely not. I could be wrong but that was my understanding from watching the show. Either way that's really not important. Trauma isn't a sport. I just wanted to comment more on how I think the show did a great job of paralleling Ben with the other characters as they grew to accept themselves and find joy while he stayed so unhappy.
When I say Ben has support I mean he has options. Maybe he can't turn to his friends or turn to his parents but he could have turned to Charlie. Heck he did turn to Charlie. He had charlie to support him but he pushed him away in the rudest assaultiest way possible.
He had Imogen who he knew was friends with Charlie and his group so logically he knows that she would be supportive.
He had the art teacher who everyone seemed to know was queer and who charlie turned to often.
I feel bad for Ben. He's just a kid. But that doesn't mean he's not a jerk. That last scene wasn't his first chance to make an effort but he never did before. He always chose to lash out. Even after being told to his face multiple times he was being awful. To me this means he is not ready to face that part of himself. Which is very sad for him.
Unfortunately not facing your reality will result in him continuing to hide his relationship or date people he doesn't like and what's even worse is he will probably keep being rude about it. Knowingly hurting someone is not a good thing to do and he is a repeat offender.
I just say all this because it's my understanding Ben's character won't be on the show anymore and so I think this ending was a great send off saying that Ben isn't ready for what this show represents. He has his own journey but it is not one of queer acceptance. Not yet
For everyone who is sad that the season has ended.
Alice has said that they're already writing the script for season 3. ❤
Yeah it’s predicted filming will start in October
And there will be a 4 season
OMG yes I'm gonna cry if they don't make another season
@@mariaveinoglou9107 they got cleared for s2 and s3 at the same time
Do you think they will do a s4 if s3 does just as good? I’m sure they have enough content for s4 with new book coming out and I heard she’s starting a 6th book I think it’s in the early early stages tho. I would love if they can at least do 5 seasons I think that would be perfect but that’s my opinion
I think they did a great job of juxtaposing Darcy’s storyline with Bens and how not having supportive parents doesn’t mean that your only recourse is to take it out on the people around you.
Agreed, but I think it also shows that external and internalized homophobia is learned (adults are to blame). These are kids, and although I give props for Darcy still staying strong, I can’t entirely blame Ben for being beaten down and having a hard time getting out of the realty that his parents have created around him. Seems like this whole situation with Charlie and Nick is providing the mirror he needed; and even then (with the rainbow extending towards him) it’s not enough and you see how ingrained his learned hatred for himself is 😔. Like Charlie said, hope he’s able to eventually learn to love himself and stop hurting ppl, realistically probably won’t happen until he moves far away.
Beautiful comment. My heart breaks for Ben, because it's clear he so badly wants the love and acceptance that Charlie's group has for one another, but he can't allow himself to go there because of all the self-hatred his parents have built into him 😢
fun fact : the prom singer is Baby Queen ! she's the one who sang the first song of ep 1 (season 1), very happy that she gets the spotlight she deserves
she was featured several times this season too! some of her newer singles and colours of you at the beginning of the last ep of the season, which was used way back when in the teaser trailer for season 1 :)
@@leilanyxalso perfect that they picked Colours of You for Nick coming out on Instagram since the song is literally about him and Charlie! The music choices this season are amazing
@@leilanyx ooh I didn't know that, tank you !
her new album is sooo goood omfg im so glad Heartstopper put me onto her.
Imogen's story is so interesting because on one hand, it could be kinda vaguely interesting to have that one token ally in the friend group, but also I've been reading her crushes on Nick and Ben as comphet from pretty much the start, her justifications of 'but we've been friends for so long ofc I like you' is textbook justifiying things to herself without actually feeling them - I would live for her and Sahar to be a thing in the future
there’s also the comment she made earlier in the season about “things being easier if she was into girls” that could read as more uninformed ally talk, but also as an indication that potentially liking the same gender is on her mind
I mean, Tao was already the token straight friend anyway
It’s totally possible for her to like boys genuinely and then discover she likes Sahar. That’s basically Nick’s story, but in reverse.
She and Sahar will make an interesting couple. Imogen is a bit dense but I think Sahar is too harsh to her. I think that little bit of the ‘we were friends but you stopped texting me’ was very telling. I have a feeling Sahar was into Imogen but once Imogen dated a guy (Nick, even though that was all in her mind, or someone before him?) she was hurt and couldn’t remain friends with Imogen. I think Imogen was telling the truth… Sahar stopped texting her. Now that Sahar has (bluntly) come out to Imogen, she sees that maybe there always was something there for her, too. And we saw a glimpse of them sleeping together cuddling in Paris… I know girls can be more comfortable being platonically close and intimate, but we’ve been given clues that something was brewing almost since Sahar was introduced in the show.
For those who read the books, I think we're glad that Nick didn't say ILY first because we want "that" scene to be in season three.
I can’t wait for “that” scene to be adapted (or similarly) in the next season!! 😏🥰🥲
There are some moments when I get into a little stress spiral of "OH NO, WHAT IF THEY ACTUALLY HAVE CHARLIE SEND THAT TEXT?!?!" because I want *that* scene so much and I would also hate if he said it for the first time over text
***COMIC SPOILERS****
Then I remember that there is a moment after David is a dick where Charlie types out that text and then deletes it and starts googling "how to tell someone you love them" instead. So I figure that this is just a slight rework of the material, and season 3 will start with Charlie googling 🤞🤞🤞
Watching Darcy's storyline with her Mum was so heartbreaking and hopeful at the same time. As a lesbian whose mum kicked her out for being gay and not meeting her idea of the perfect daughter, seeing the group support her was so beautiful. ❤
I really felt sorry for Darcy this season. Such a positive force, yet having to endure the scorn of her family. It's good she has her 'friends' family for support.
Brad your not the only who cried at these 2 episodes. I was weeping for an hour afterwards 😂😂
Real I was literally crying it was so sad 😭😭😭
same lol, I cried a lot in this season and I loved it, I do want to re watch it at some point but I do want to watch it with someone else to hear their POV on the show lol
Literally same like I need to hear what other people think and possibly start an argument if I don't agree with them 😂😂
there was literally NOTHING to weep about, are u even human ?
Are u mad the ending of episode 8 was the saddest thing about the series. Have u even watched it
Loved rewatching this with you. Thanks Brad!
I have heard people say "is everyone gay in this show".. well most of the characters are part of the LGBTQIA+ community, yes. CAN WE HAVE NICE THINGS? I've been watching the straights all my life.. we neeeed this!
And thanks for your speech at the end. So so right.
Yes and also, some people might say that having a group of friends with that many lgbtq+ members is unrealistic but it's actually not a stretch from reality because in real life, queer people tend to gravitate towards each other which is normal and not just for queer people but for people in general. Most people would surround themselves with people who have similar interests and experiences. That's just a human thing to do and the fact that there is a lot of queer characters in this show doesn't imply that the whole school is queer but this show centers on the different representations of lgbtq+ people and their struggles as teenagers so obviously there is a lot of these characters because that's the whole point of this show ! (I used the word "people" way too much in this comment but I hope it still makes sense😅)
YEEEEESSSSS!
It's actually not that much queer people... 3 teachers and about 10 students out of all people of 2 huge schools? They're just not focusing on the straights for once
Also I wasn't even out when I was at school and still my friend group turned out to be almost all queer 10 years later, we just found each other without even realizing it. I just love seeing this queer friend group out and happy like we didn't have the chance at the time 🥲
@@letsmadi7577 Yes exactly, that's what I was trying to say, obviously not the entire two schools are queer, far from that, but the show focuses on queer characters.
Also the story about your friend group is really funny and beautiful. Sometimes luck does work things out ! I'm glad you found friends you can relate to and I wish you all stay close, well and healthy 😊
right like you don't hear queer people saying "is everyone straight in this show?" (well you do sometimes but usually it's satire) 😭😭 even if we think it. it's just outta pocket to say about a fictional show..
HIS FACE WHEN HE SAW DARCY’S CROCS😭
That was my face too! I was so distracted by them that when the gang was talking about how good she looked in the store I was like... "Wait, what??"
lmao mine too! i was like darcy's got my crocs!!
Something I really loved about this season. You know how everyone has their little leaf, butterfly etc effects when stuff happens between them romantically? Isaac get's it when he's alone, and it's so beautiful, especially since the effect represents like feeling good, it shows he's feeling good on his own.
I felt SO EMPTY after finishing heartstopper 😭
You can always binge it again.
I did that@@lorenzoguerrero7520 and I cried more each time I watched it 😂
@@lorenzoguerrero7520lol that’s what I did and then watch his reaction to it so watched it like 3 times now both seasons lol
@@meowcraft2403 We need to binge it. I need season 4. It's because a lot happens in volume 4. I need them to be happy at the end. Season 3 may very well end with Charlie going to rehab and separating with Nick for the first time.
IM NOT READY FOR IT TO END
Same😢
Me neither :(
Same😢
Me neither,thats why I always rewatch it😭😭😭
Don't worry Alice said that already writing the script for season 3
Love how Loveless is in the background of James and Isacc's conversation scene. If you didn't know, Loveless is a YA novel that Alice Oseman wrote and the protagonist deals with coming to terms with being aro/ace.
YESS!! I'm glad someone else noticed as it is such a cool little easter egg in the show!
I saw that too! I noticed the magenta cover and was so excited to see it
Will Gao (Tao) and his Sister's band, Wasia Project, made the last song as Charlie was leaving Nick's house. How amazing that they got to be a part of the music in Heartstopper. Not to mention how talented they both are in their own right :)
It’s always a nice day when Tao’s dancing. Also, Tao’s Mum found the perfect daughter-in-law.
I want a Solitaire/Tori spin off! the ways Heartstopper and Tori's story overlap in so many ways is AMAZING on Alice Oseman's part.
Also I MISS ALED IS ABSENCE IN THE STORY IS FELT 😭😭
True!!! At least we will get Michael Holden in s3❤
solitaire was such a good book i adore tori in it
Yeah!
fr i need a solitaire show!
I agreeee they need to turn the entire Alice oseman universe into shows. They would be soo gooood
12:13 so just a bit of insight, the piece Elle did is inspired by one of the paintings in the Louvre. In the Louvre ep you can see her smiling at the original painting before she goes off with tao and I think before she has that conversation with nick about art. Gives me chills!
It also heavily reminds me of Tao's not so good landscape from series 1 of 5he wholecgang sitting together.
I noticed that. I so wonder, though, if a teen could create such an accomplished painting.
Extremely random, but I love how far Nick and Tao's friendship has been built in the series, I realised just how far they've come and how close they've gotten in ep 8 when they had that talk
Hey Brad, I know this sounds really corny but I'm 15 and still figuring out my sexuality and I just wanted to mention how your videos are really helping me feel a lot more confident about myself and comfortable in my own skin and I just really wanted to thank you for that! Have a lovely summer, love the video as always ☺
I just wanna tell you that you are amazing! I hope you have a wonderful year and it's so cool that you are already on your journey of self acceptance ❤️ you got this
You got this! Just keep going💕
You got this! Remember two things.
1. There is no timeline to figuring yourself out.
2: You don't owe ANYBODY anything you don't want to tell them.
Take care of yourself
You've got this! As the comment above states, there is no deadline to "figure things out". Focus on doing things that bring you joy and surround yourself with people who do the same and the rest will fall into place. Take care!!!
Remember to be kind to yourself and take care of yourself 😊🥰
I’m crying 😭. The brave face nick put on for Charlie is so sweet and loving. ❤ Also, the queen ✨Tori ✨ like she made David shook. She deserves more screen time ❤
I need a Solitaire movie with our queen Tori
And vice versa the brave face Charlie put up for the whole season in his desperate attempt to get everything perfect for Nick while mentally falling apart.
Joe and Kit just gave everything to those last scenes. SEVEN HOUR shoot. Really recommend everyone read Kit's individual part of the Teen Vogue interview where he talks about how emotional it was to do that scene with Joe specifically. I hope the strike ends (with justice for writers and performers) soon for many reasons, but I won't lie and say more post-season 2 interviews aren't one of them!
THE LAST FEW MINUTES OF HEARTSTOPPER SEASON 2 BROKE ME 😭 I CRIED SO MUCH 😭😭😭
My too 😭😭
28:43 "SHE WAS MY HAPPY ONE." Literally all of us. I think Darcy is a really accurate character. I was the class clown always cheering everybody up and boosting confidence, and my home life was totally insane. When your parents come for you, it's hard to be bothered by silly teens at school.
RIP Ally Imogen - on a better note, welcome saphic Imogen! What a Glow-up! Love this journey for her!
Slightly random but, I kind of really hope they leave Imogen as sapphic/unlabelled, because Heartstopper is kinda about representing LGBTQ+ people and I feel like there’s barely any unlabelled rep (Young Royals is the only series I can think of off the top of my head).
(Also, I myself am sapphic/unlabelled so it would mean *so much* to me if they did)
I cried when TAYLOR SWIFT’s SEVEN got played in between Tara’s and Darcy’s scene.
I heard it and didn't notice the song straight away but was like "IS THAT TAYLOR I HEAR" and was so excitedd
we've been talking abiut how it is so lesbian coded for so long, i was screaming that someone finally used it
@@eunoiia7213 me too, the poster was also a hint
SAME 😭😭 so many of us begged for her to be on the soundtrack and it was PERFECT. i cried 😳
When our Victoria Queen Tori kicked David’s phone, everybody clapping 😂
Speaks volumes about David when Tori cares more about Nick and his feelings/privacy than he does. I LOVE HER CHARACTER SO MUCH
Tao and Elle didn’t just have sick outfits but also THE CHEMISTRY and THE DANCING 🔥
im honestly so glad they left it on the cliffhanger cause the ily scene in the comics is so cute and i hope they don't change it
Someone pointed this out in another reaction, and now I can’t unsee it every time I watch this episode. In the scene where Charlie asks Nick to close his eyes, the globe in Charlie’s room is dark. When Nick opens his eyes to see Charlie in is cute tux, the globe is now illuminated. It’s like a subtle of saying “Charlie lights up his whole world”. I’m losing my composure just typing this! Maybe it’s just a well-placed continuity error, but I love it!
him saying we don’t know what’s gonna happen with the books directly behind him kinda makes me laugh
sorry i don’t know…** 😂😂
I felt so bad for James. His first kiss and everything... his lil smiley face
i like how you can tell that Tao is learning, instead of texting about abandonment, he decided to be supportive instead🤭
Here’s my list for Heartstopper parents, from worst to best (of those that we’ve seen).
Darcy’s mom < Nick’s dad < Charlie’s mom < Tara’s mom & Elle’s parents < Charlie’s dad < Nick’s mom < Tao’s mom.
I just lumped Elle’s parents and Tara’s mom together in the middle cause they all seem at least base line supportive and nice but we just don’t see them enough for me to make a proper assessment.
Yah Tao’s mother is a legend. Literally the sweetest
i *love* that they let isaac learn about his identity so explicitly at an art gallery too - it gives space to talk about it that detailed up front, without it feeling out of place or "overly educational" - it was the perfect spot for it, ahhhh
This show is honestly so healing, and as a bi person I'm so glad that it touches on the biphobia
‘everybody’s a fruit 😜 i love it 😜’ honestly brad i could quote you for days and never run out of quotes
ben hope is such a complex character and his story honestly breaks me. he doesn’t deserve charlie’s forgiveness but it’s sad to see the hope in his eyes die. he’s just a kid who will never get to be himself.
LMAOO THE SMILE ON YOUR FACE AFTER TORI WENT "I'll end you" TO NICKS OLDER BROTHER- 😭💀
21:18
I'm already dreading how long we're going to have to wait for more Heartstopper sweetness. Thanks for being wonderful, Brad, and for giving us these honest, heartfelt reactions.
After all that waiting for season 2 - and it's consumed in a heartbeat! At least we have all the reactions to prolongue the show!
What I love the most about your reactions is that they are so relatable from the emotional draining parts to the “oh not the crocs”. 😂
Fun fact, the song that plays at the end "You're So Pretty" is by Wasia Project, a duo with William Gao (who plays Tao) and his sister Olivia. Its such a beautiful song and sooooo perfect for that moment
32:14 When I tell you I was scared beyond belief when this scene happened. Tara is a legend for tolerating Darcy’s Mum.
As an LGBTQ TA, i can tell you that two of the people i got closest to at the high school where i work are two other LGBTQ teachers lol. Also the kids are so gender and sexuality fluid that so many of them being so in this show doesnt surprise me. They also tend to find and gravitate toward one another anyway...
The tray of fruit for Imogen just casually entering the chat. I was dying 🤣🤣🤣
BRO I WAS SOBBING SO HARD AT THE END I CANNOT WITH THIS SHOW
Lmao every time I cry while watching I’m always like “I hate this fucking show.”
It ENDED me
31:09 "is Imogen actually fruity" I could not stop laughing. I had to watch it back again.
I've seen all the reactions you've done to series and movies and I literally love Heartstopper's. As someone from the LGBTQ+ community, you not only make comments that make me cry with laughter, but you also highlight the most significant elements of this beautiful series, the happy, cute, sad and even angry ones. Because we have all seen ourselves in some of the situations that this show presents. I have no doubt that these last two chapters are the densest in terms of emotions and issues related to who we are queer people, which is why there is so much passion around Heartstopper. For this reason, I applaud this installment because although you did not cry, it was noticeable how everything that happened affected you. And to those who find this show idealistic or too cringy, it's because they don't understand how important it is to represent who we are queer in a positive and profound way. Thanks Brad.
I absolutely broke down sobbing (in a good way!) when that art student was *explicitly* aroace. It felt so amazing to see that representation so clearly and positively where there’s practically none of it about. Aspec rep is so important to me as an asexual person and I immediately had to rewatch that conversation.
Have lost count of how many times I have watched your reactions to this series now, I just love them! I think Heartstopper is such a valuable piece of television and I am obsessed! I am a 40 something straight woman and a mental health nurse and there is so much everyone from all walks of life can learn from this program while somehow managing to come away feeling so good! They model such good communication and empathy that I genuinely think society would benefit if this was routinely shown in schools. I think everything about it is practically faultless and it deserves all the awards! The cast are amazing but of course KIt and Joe are phenomenal. (Really looking forward to seeing Kits Romeo in November!)
i relate to charlie spring so much, the bullying when i came out, the cu**ing, the ED, the depression and NEED to take care of others. he’s me but a guy
Then you are as strong as Charlie for still being here today and fighting. You're as brave as him. ❤🩹
Guuurl I agree with you 100% These last two episodes were cram packed with deep trauma moments, some I personally have experienced which was tough. Sure some of it is cringe, but mainly cause we aren't there yet with the whole acceptance thing. ... sigh ... one day. 😁 But I agree that nobody should be going after those who love this show. We need more shows like this, that shows inclusivity, acceptance and normality. 💖
Thanks for these videos. I enjoyed your reactions to them. I’m 47 and cried like a baby when I finally watched series 1 and 2 over the last few weeks. Im now obsessed with this. Am so glad this series exists and these actors are amazing. I hope Heartstopper helps kids or others in the future not go through a lot of the awful shit, judgement, self-doubt and anxiety that lots of us went through when trying to figure out who we were. My first boyfriend was like Ben Hope and I was totally Charlie Spring. I wish I had seen this when it mattered as life might have been a lot different. Keep up your great work!
Nick is just too honest and savage for this world. No one is ready.
I love the fact that they used William Gao's song - "Ur so pretty" (Wasia Project)at the end for that intimate moment between the two of them. The song selections got me. That moment between them deserves some awards tbh.
Charlie's confessions about the bullying happened just before his introduction to David in the graphic novels. Tori is our gothic queen who could easily resort to the Wednesday Addams method of justice against bullies.
I didn't cry the first time I watched it either, but then I never really cry at anything lol. This go around however, I did tear up a bit when Isaac was talking to the other aro/ace person at the event. When they said "Freedom" and it cut to Isaac and the leaves...Just his expression and everything got me as another ace person. It's such an amazing storyline and such an important one to include! This whole show is just fucking amazing. Thank you for sharing your journey with us!!
THE HAPPY FACE OF YOURS WHEN TORI LITERALLY THREATENED DO KILL DAVID? i live for it.
Ben doesn’t realise how much pain he’s caused Charlie because he still thought he could be forgiven. Charlie will be scarred for the rest of his life and it’s really sad to see. It’s also a bit interesting because Darcy is going through almost the exact same thing as Ben and she doesn’t act the way he does
Darcy has a support system though, through her friends, Tara, and literally everywhere but her house. Not defending Ben cuz what he did was disgusting, but one factor doesn’t determine that. This season showed Ben being isolated, his rugby lads, everyone at school, that can make a big difference
@@bookwormd8627 Ben chooses not to though. He was in the same exact situation as Nick (same friend group and seeing Charlie), he had opportunities to get support through Charlie, his friends, Imogen, even Nick, but rejects it. Darcy didn’t just show up one day with a support group, she had to find one. Ben needs to try, he can’t just expect it to come to him. You can’t be cruel to people (Charlie, Nick, and Imogen) then expect them to be there for you and support you.
*tara: I'm having an mental breakdown*
*brad: me this whole season*
*me: me too babes me too*
Why can I imagine David’s actor pulling a Sebastian and his actor being the sweetest person ever
The globe lamp being unlit when Nick's eyes are covered, and all aglow when he uncovers them because his whole world lights up when he sees Charlie is......😭❤
I love James. Hope he finds love in the next season. He's sweet & adorable.
i sobbed so much during episode 7. growing up knowing something was different and not having any sort of representation in media of aroace individuals was so isolating. even now knowing that i am aroace and feeling somewhat comfortable with that, its still so hard that some of the people around me don't understand or validate my experience (i have been asked whether i just /believe/ im asexual because im scared of being hurt), so having ace representation both in books and now a TV show both breaks my heart and makes me so happy. and putting people watching and crush culture, two songs which i personally feel such a connection to because of the ace undertones i can identify, just made me sob harder
This has been a remarkable season, so well done on every level: costuming, music, cinematography, directing, writing, and acting. And you don’t have to weep to be emotionally affected by it.
Fun fact the band playing at prom are actually Baby Queen and her band, a lot of her songs were included on the soundtrack last season, and the song used on the last episode when nick comes out on Instagram its a song she wrote specifically for nick and charlie.
In my mind until the 3rd season comes out the ending was like this. Charlie sends it, then Charlie sees Nick read it. A few seconds pass and Charlie’s face is just about to look worried and Nick comes busting through the front door runs to him picks him up and yells I love you too. Then they share a passionate kiss which pans to Olivia Coleman and David watching them at the front door and she says something like “How can you have a problem with something so beautiful”. And David just puts his head down in shame. That’s my perfect ending to that scene.
13:45 Brad's reaction to Ben's apology and the the switch when Charlie responded. 13:55 the reaction and then the edit in response 😂 and "tears back in." Brilliant!
Brad's assessment of Ben's apology was perfection. Everyone piling on Ben all the time makes me a little sad. I know he's horrible, but it's pretty clear, even in season 1, that he has tons of internalized homophobia. But it is spot on that it doesn't excuse his behavior. I love Brad's comments because he recognizes Ben's pain, hopes for character growth, yet doesn't excuse Ben's horrible behavior. All beautifully said
the last lyric of the season being “dont leave me” is rlly the thing that ties it together
You need to watch red white and royal blue!!
I love the show. I honestly don't understand how anyone wouldn't, especially members of the LGBT+ community. I've seen people say that it's "sanitized" or "not realistic," and criticize the lack of sex and stuff, because "teenagers don't really act like that," but I feel like that's actually kind of the point.... It's soooo nice to see a cute and endearing relationship blossom between young people (particularly Nick and Charlie, but everyone else as well). There's such an emphasis on sex in most media, and while sex is great, healthy relationships can't be based on raw passion and sex alone.... A lot of young people feel pressured into sex before they're actually ready (I sure was, and started having sex years before I was actually comfortable with it), and it's so nice to see such sweet and wholesome relationships on-screen... Especially between queer characters! It's clearly a fantasy world, where consent and true intimacy reign supreme, but it could be a new reality, because I really think it shows the young people of today that sex isn't everything, and there's so many other important things in relationships. I wish I had this show 15 years ago!
Charlie and Nick looked so cute in their Prom Outfits. Also, the dancing was improv.
Your face seeing Imogen looking at Sahar with loving eyes....hilarious! so great.
The dinner scene was straight from the book and was ICONIC! The only thing I wish they had done was Charlies dad telling Nick that he handled that well.
7:58 THE LOVELESS BOOK IN THE BACKGROUND BEHIND THE AROACE CHARACTER I SQUEALED
but also Issac talking about himself like he’s wrong I’m like 😭sweetie just READ THE BOOK BEHIND YOU ! YOU WILL FEEL SOO FREAKING SEEN
I love how Brad is saying that tori needs no man. But she gets a man in solitaire 😂
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I love your speech at the end of this video, it was raw, truthful, and needed to be said.
17:38 Brad being an icon for the Aroace Realm
💯 agree with your final comments. season 2 took it to the next level and made me rewatch each season twice. Plus greater appreciation for the music and the maturity of the actors in their interviews. It's pure joy to watch, coming from a 40 something year old straight woman!
the scene with darcys mum rlly made me appreciate my parents more. I was OBSESSED with suits when i was younger and when there was a wedding and everyone wanted the little girls to all wear dresses they always let me wear a suit. It looked kind of weird bc i was like 8 yo but i always felt like so comfortable and confident.
Oh my goddd, saaaaaame
I swear Imogen and Sahar will definitely get together in the next season 3
I truly felt destroyed when this season ended, felt totally emotionally drained
can't wait for season 3🤗
29:30 what's funny about harry saying this is he wasn't insulting nick and charlie, he was insulting his mates