the point of the previous hydra change was to reduce the time we spend on hydra... i've never spend more time than now on this mode trying to get decent damages or just doing manually the job that my teams were able to do on full auto previously , well done plarium
So they are nerfing ally attack and multi-attack champs because...? Bring back the infinite HP bar for killed heads. Dead heads used to be fun. Now it just means you will be getting an immune head soon and your damage cut.
Hydra was the only thing I enjoyed. I pulled shards, designed teams. Invested so much and all is gone because Plarium Simply does not play their own game.
I only played it for the advanced daily key when prompted. I had just got myself to a place where i could score enough damage to earn the lowest chest reward and that day they changed it. Its a total waist of time now.
I played this game for 4 years .. I quit 2 months ago, the best decision I made. Good luck to the people still trying to enjoy this nonsense of the game.
Yep, I'm pretty much done. It's hard to step away because I've been playing since 2020 and with the same clan ever since, and that makes it hard. Raid pretty much has F'd more things up, than actually doing good for the community. They can eat a big fat one! Great video again, bud
Same, it's my clan that makes me want to stay for a while... but now I'm contemplating in this fusion either to finish it or just save some of my sanity and get off this game for good...
Started at 2019 stayed with the same clan quit this june. Glad I didn't have to see the hydra drama 😂😂😂 Was thinking of coming back, but now I'm as happy as ever.
If you watched all the reviews on the game.. Gather all the stupid updates of plarium in Raid then multiply it by 10. That's how stupid KALR updates are. In terms of Raid, it looks like this: Gnut' A3 will be changed to "Def multiplier" instead of "Enemy HP" They did that to one of their heroes a few months ago.
And you get it via the new "void primal" shard which has a 80% chance of a void rare, 15% chance of a void epic, 4.9% chance of a void legendary, and 0.1% chance of a void mythic. They can only be purchased via cash for $100 each and have no mercy settings. Oh, but they're giving everyone a free one for Christmas this year, so the ultra super extra lucky (and content creators) will have the new void mythical by New Years. The rest of us should just quit.
Hydra is my main reason why I continue to play as f2p, after the change... I feel like i have nothing else to do, I don't want to do anything PVP related, Cursed city is just pure grind, and I hate it, Hydra is literally the only content that can show my progress, but after the changes, it's like I'm back a year ago... just playing for the sake of pulling shards since I'm already at the point of just saving, just collection game basically atm
so taunt is out, ally atk is out, doing dmg on decapitated heads is out, doing dmg to new heads 90% of the times is out ... cute ... next nerf hp burn and remove hex effect
The easiest solution and the best way to get the message through would be if everybody stops doing Hydra for a while. If they are monitoring metrics at all, they’ll see that hydra is no longer being used as a game mode and may consider not screwing over the player base for once. Lol who am I kidding?
@@alphalitearmies9956 1M silver per piece to repair it after the battle, but each time a piece gets destroyed in a battle the cost goes up (exponentially ofc)…
maybe they are testing the reaction from the players, so as players we must speak with our action, called out on their bullshit, stop spending or stop playing until the game is fun again. thanks you skratch for not sugar coating your reaction and showing your raw frustration
And - forced to play Live Arena for the advanced quests. They can p1ss off. Every time I am asked/forced to play live Arena, and therefore lose a refill because I won't, will be a month I don't spend. So, I expect I will be free to play soon.
@peanutbutter4166 500 camping battles in a month. Literally takes me the last 3 days of the month to do it to not miss out on my void and sacred shard... so stupid
My favorite in hydra is the head respawning while it has 2turns and 0 turn meter.... i love when it happens or even when the heads get double the turn meter and spawn with 1 turn instead of 2 that is also amazing
doom tower and hydra were my favorite two parts of the game - they really show natural progression of your account, whether you are ftp, low spender, high spender whatever, now I do one hydra battle to get a reward once a week (if I remember). Otherwise, that and the little red dot on seige may as well not even exist for me
I hate to be that guy, but I have to say, this is probably the last straw for me. Hydra was my favorite game mode. I watched them kill it with the last update and then seal the coffin shut with this one. I really feel like most of us are still here because of the sunken cost fallacy. GG plarium.
So they are basically acting like the head is killed but the heads respawn so you didn't kill anything, this is crazy they need to take away the no damage when heads respawn then
This is the worst thing they've done since they made head of decay destroy 75% of your HP. They reverted that, they have to revert this one. If they don't players will leave, in droves. If they don't fix it, I'm doing a 1 key NM, and that will be it. No clash, at all.
K unpopular take but I'm still happy with the changes. I been taking down hydra regularly since before they nerfed hydra and added the provoke option. I didnt complain when they made it easier, and I'm not complaining now either. For me, these bs billion point teams were a bigger issue. Its still easy for end game accounts to one key the best chests, but no longer can you cheese ridiculous scores. Fine by me
I literally just got Mikage a bit ago, booked her up and geared her this morning along with Ninja during the Champ training and artefact enhancement for the Gretel fusion. Was super excited and took them into hydra to see what they could do... Have a test run going on in the background while I decided to pull up this video... welp... frick me I guess. Edit: All they had to do was change Yumeko to not reset herself and behave like every other reset champ...
This change doesn't really affect my teams at all, but my teams aren't very strong anyway. To be fair, this change does make sense. In any other game mode, when the enemy has no HP left you can't keep dealing damage to them, and the ally attack won't bring more people in if the target is already dead. That being said, Hydra has always allowed for full team ally attack even when heads die and respawn. Plarium should compromise and allow the full ally attack, but the ally attack continues on the respawned head.
The only thing they need to do now is to get rid of overkill damage as a whole, then everyone starts playing on an even field. Just kill as many heads as possible during your run. No exaggerated numbers just count the damage of heads HP. No matter you play Trunda or ally attack, it will make sense for everyone. People will still claim top chests. Clash will be fixed. Plarium sits with big W. Only the whale clans will be mad because they cant reach crazy numbers as they did before.
This is probably the logic behind this: Attack ONE enemy multiple time. When you cut of a head, the severed head is still the same enemy. If you kill the severed head, a NEW head/enemy spawns in its place in between multiple hits interupting the attack.
They are sick , what a shitty company, thanks for share this shit with us , you should encourage other CCs to talk about this situation. Waiting for Godforge and move us all there
the surplus dmg from aly attack was the only way to deal the dmg that showed your acount strength. Now after this update every team with enough dmg to kill the hp bar fast will do all very equal dmg its so boring now.
take away the hydra head HP bar and go back to unlimited damage, 2 turns exposed necks. Make 100% damage reduction buff only possible on 2-3 heads max. Nerf trunda into the ground. Hydra fixed.. instead Plarium will create the problem and sell you more solutions, just like polymorph...
Thats very disappointing but if im being honest i only top chest now. My interest is back to like before, get the top chest and move on. I don't even look at clash anymore or even try to do any damage. If they are gonna screw us then I'll save my time and put forth no effort in that area of the game.
So they removed overkill damage. To be fair, this is what happens everywhere else, BUT, Overkill damage was always a Hydra mechanic to up dmg, specifically on decapitated heads. This nonsense is exactly why every single CC took pause when they said "complicated solution". That translated to overtuning and a complete redesign to make the Hydra more difficult as though it was brand new endgame content.
I thought exactly the same, now that the heads have a finite amount of health points. If you do end up depleting that it doesn’t make sense that your other champs attack. Since technically the target has been killed. This wasn’t a problem before because the heads had infinite amount of health points.
Ironic thing was there were all these supposed Raid killers, EE, Dragonair, Watcher of Realms, and now King Arthur. Then Raid just keeps working harder and harder to destroy itself. Cheers Raid you will be the only Raid killer.
The damage is lower on the second hit because you hit the Cap of Health from that Decapitated Head. And the Ally Attack doesn’t go because it’s technically a “new Champion” which is why it still works when going from Head to Decapitated Head
Higher than my favorite game mode for almost 9 months now and basically what they did was just take the fun out of it which is complete BS. I knew this was going to happen the second they introduced Hydra Clash
Every week is just more bad changes from Plarium. What is going on here. We play the game to escape rl problems so we dont want to be pissed off here too!
I don't do Hydra at all. They are making it less and less fun, making it take longer, and taking away the entire point of their game....get the right champions, in the right gear, with the right allies and you can compete at the highest levels... I don't understand why they take away the joy of gaming.
I love raid but they better be careful at this point. Watcher of realms been releasing great updates. King arthur is coming out soon and personally that game kinda blows raid out the water when it comes to interacting with players and how boss fights look and work. Raid is slowly falling behind when it comes to quality and satisfaction.
They literally killed my Fenax. I will never forget this Plarium. Wish I did all three of my keys already. I just built Fenax number 2 also 6 star CR and now I’m vexed…..terribly vexed
I watched them decide they were too generous in the beginning by giving sacred shards away in demon lord, so they added another tier of champs from primal shards that basically need to be bought. I'm guessing they decided hydra rewards were made too easy too? I don't see why else they would keep making it harder.
That already happened to me after the initial hydra changes (with the Fatman). It works the same way as ally attack in arena. I did report it to plarium back then.
I'm sadly convinced at this point they don't care about balance or fun they are just trying to equalize the damage being done across hydra as a form of balance by capping all of the damage. I'm actually in a state of disbelief Of what I just watched. I'm very confused in what they're thinking in how this is good or acceptable.
Thought I was going crazy, tested a team 2 days ago , got 410mil , today 320 using toshiro and othorion. Also got endalia (last mikage piece) in the guaranteed. Damn that's disappointing...
I feel that there trying kill hydra and game ad a whole game has out lived 99% of most games and now there at point to were they can basically screw up then close doors on it when players that spend quite 😊
Thinking about it a bit calmly i would say its a Mechanic that is in EVERY part in the game, Arena, Doom Tower, Cursed City, Dungeons and so on BUT it was one of the Main dmg sources we had on Hydra. First they "reduced" the posible dmg with "capping" the decapitate Head HP and now they reduce it even more with that Mechanic. Thats a big Joke! They "reduced" the Time we need to play Hydra with the Turn counter but at the other hand they Force us to Play Manuel or else we dont get any decent dmg in.
A small change to help lower end players especially would be to buff hp burn damage. 20k-30k a head is honestly pathetically low, especially with how much they seem to value it.
All they had to do was let Siegfrund’s god sword work on incapacitated heads and people would have been happy. Instead they let tundra reign and now this is the wrought
I realized when I did a 1 million point hit and the downed head had a sliver of health left, I only got points for the health remaining. This happened after last update, this update they changed the fact that points were showing on screen and not giving you them. Now they just stop when health is gone.
Thats 100% not true. Before this update you got exactly the points displayed. When you hit a decapitated head with a double hit, dealing 1 Million dmg each, you got 2 Million damage, even if that head just had 1 HP.
Everyone should write a complaint ticket. If a video is made about it, I'm sure there'd be plenty of positive community feedback. I think the Hydra issues have escalated to the point where it is necessary.
It's time for another 1 star review bomb. And people in the big clans need to convince their clanmates to stop spending for a month. Just bitching about it online isn't going to change them. Have to hit them where it matters.
Basically they capped the hp on decapitated heads, u can't do more then it's max hp! Makes sense in a way but the draining hp bar is bullshit for sure agree!
I feel like my last round I didn't do nearly enough damage, I guess this is why. I've got two Trundas, but only really use one ... guess I'll need to review my build for Trunda number two to make sure she's built well.
Tbh this change makes sense if you want a realistic game. U cannot damage the new form of a monster reviving. Now how realistic this context is, is another thing. Obviously i hate this change but i stopped taking hydra seriously with previous changes that cut my dmg by 60- 65%. So
As you've said, people did start to enjoy hydra. First brought some nice champs for hydra and now they've killed the best game mode completely. wasn't enough to let us attack without dealing damage while playing manual...
I hope Plarium made a mistake when stating this change was intended. I can't think of any reason why Hydra needed this change. And why Plarium wouldn't state this change in the patch notes. I think Plarium needs to make a public announcement to everyone regarding this change. And it think they need to seriously reconsider keeping this change in the game, as well as whatever process(es) they have in place that allowed this change to go unannounced.
Was getting bored with the game about 6 months. Then surprised myself by getting excited about hydra team-building. My best team advanced from barely one-keying hard to doing 400M on nightmare. Post-Nerf: Last week I only did 92M (after 5 manual attempts!!). Today, my first attempt was half of last week's score. Plarium DESERVES to go out of business. I would NEVER download and play another of their games. EVER.
Okay but is this all they changed? I just ran a hydra brutal and everything was going okay until two of my champs were fully eaten and devoured within about thirty turns. I've never had it happen that quick before, like ever... Are we sure they didn't change something with how quickly champs are devoured?
Here me out guys, there's this game called "King Arthur Legends", looks really fun. I am thinking about completely switching to it, it is actually a pretty hard decision considering the amount of time (no money gladly) I've put into this game (and I think plarium knows this).
Most of the changes didn't irk me and I gave them the benefit of the doubt but this one is just so fucking stupid it hurts. It's decisions like this that stop me from spending in the game. What's next? Instead of nerfing the mark of hydra they probably will buff it and make all hydra heads get it whenever any head respawns. Man they are having a good time these past couple weeks.
Well I’m tempted to stop. Probably gonna take a break for November and see, but yeah I’m done with Hydra. I’ll figure things out with stone skin. They don’t encourage champs for protection anyway. Also the fact the souls are just way too hard to get, I’m not encouraged to try. Why try anymore? Arena is hit or miss depending on my mood and how bad RNG is. It’s like they don’t want us to even compete. I loved doing better than Trunda teams. I had a team that was 1.5 billion and I’m F2P. Team had no Trunda, no reset, no teox, nothing op. Mostly ninja, mikage, and Thor. I felt soo good beating a whale on my clan who did Trunda team. His was 1.5. Felt great. Now he’s still pretty much 1 b and I’m at like 400m… sucks. Just doesn’t feel good
so basically they were trying to fix trunda splash damage by capping the damage on dead heads, and since they have the best knowledge of the games mechanics out of anyone ever alive, they did just that and happily now state that this trunda fix is intended. The reality is, they had no clue how shit works... again... think their fix would achieve what they was hoping it would, didnt feel the need to test it, just misunderstand the reports due to illiteracy causing reading errors for their egobloated brains and this is the endresult. I commented on an older post the other day about the first hydra changes, because someone was smoking the plarium sausage too hard and said that it only affects people who dealt too much damage, we should stop crying if we still got highest chest (he mixed classchest and normal chests here while talking about hydra clash, no one cares about the normal chests) and said that trunda was now not gonna win and this was all good... Wonder where that paid chill is today.. some people here just copypasta plariums statements and trying to feel superior. Bunch of morons everywhere unfortunately. Plarium is incompetent, i have not even played this game 1 year and there has already been atleast 4 MAJOR fuckups that would be unthinkable to even be a possibility for any other gaming dev company going back 10+ years. Atrocious, they need to stop sheltering their og employes and actually employ ppl with some form of education in their profession.
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the point of the previous hydra change was to reduce the time we spend on hydra... i've never spend more time than now on this mode trying to get decent damages or just doing manually the job that my teams were able to do on full auto previously , well done plarium
They nerfed ally attack, multi hitters, AoE damage dealers and auto-battle. Insane idiocy!
I agree ! I spend so much more time now its insane 😂
Well, i spend less time. I don't do Hydra at all anymore 😂
So freakin true because it’s all manual now to get good damage
So they are nerfing ally attack and multi-attack champs because...? Bring back the infinite HP bar for killed heads. Dead heads used to be fun. Now it just means you will be getting an immune head soon and your damage cut.
Because they want to kick all their community out
Looks like it. Then they have a reason to shut the game down@@SkratchPlays
@@SkratchPlaysYup, they need new suckers.
I just ignore hydra clan boss content now lol.
I am right there with you. Haven't played since the changes.
@@andrewarnold9820 same here
Hydra was the only thing I enjoyed. I pulled shards, designed teams. Invested so much and all is gone because Plarium Simply does not play their own game.
I only played it for the advanced daily key when prompted. I had just got myself to a place where i could score enough damage to earn the lowest chest reward and that day they changed it. Its a total waist of time now.
@@JazzSlayer_yep same hydra was my favourite part of the game.
Plarium is helping you spend less time in the game by getting you to quit.
Why tf would they... they're trying to kill the game
Certainly looks like it.
I played this game for 4 years .. I quit 2 months ago, the best decision I made. Good luck to the people still trying to enjoy this nonsense of the game.
Same here. Couldn't be happier with my decision.
Same here, miss my guild and my champs but my life feels better after quitting
As of today I have hung up my raid account … and I have switched over to WoR especially with there new patch coming this week ! 🎉
Can I have your raid account then if you're not playing anymore
@@corycarlock1299 gifted already.
Too many people were getting the chests.....
Yep, I'm pretty much done. It's hard to step away because I've been playing since 2020 and with the same clan ever since, and that makes it hard. Raid pretty much has F'd more things up, than actually doing good for the community. They can eat a big fat one! Great video again, bud
Same, it's my clan that makes me want to stay for a while... but now I'm contemplating in this fusion either to finish it or just save some of my sanity and get off this game for good...
Basically we are all too addicted to quit, but no one enjoys the game anymore. That is todays society in a nutshell.
Started at 2019 stayed with the same clan quit this june. Glad I didn't have to see the hydra drama 😂😂😂
Was thinking of coming back, but now I'm as happy as ever.
Plarium trying to give that Arthur Legends game its best chance.
Time to play king Arthur legends...
I am really liking that game
If you watched all the reviews on the game..
Gather all the stupid updates of plarium in Raid then multiply it by 10. That's how stupid KALR updates are.
In terms of Raid, it looks like this:
Gnut' A3 will be changed to "Def multiplier" instead of "Enemy HP"
They did that to one of their heroes a few months ago.
@@S.D.0000wtf are you Talking about dude, what kind of stupid updates you have in King arthur?
Japanese game.. meh looking
They lost the plot.
10000%
That would imply they had it I begin with
Wow! I thought Hydra was dead after the last update. Now it is not only dead but it's a rotting corpse that will poison the game making people leave
I hope they release a void mythical champ that will not be affected by this change. That will solve the problem.
And you get it via the new "void primal" shard which has a 80% chance of a void rare, 15% chance of a void epic, 4.9% chance of a void legendary, and 0.1% chance of a void mythic. They can only be purchased via cash for $100 each and have no mercy settings. Oh, but they're giving everyone a free one for Christmas this year, so the ultra super extra lucky (and content creators) will have the new void mythical by New Years. The rest of us should just quit.
Ding, ding, ding! It's their plan probably, this is just to prepare the changes in game before the champions goes.
That’s literally a problem within a problem. They change things to come out with one champion. Rinse and repeat.
That is way too high of a chance for the void legendary... Try 1% if we are "Lucky" lmao.
The one you get after your first pension
Hydra is my main reason why I continue to play as f2p, after the change... I feel like i have nothing else to do, I don't want to do anything PVP related, Cursed city is just pure grind, and I hate it, Hydra is literally the only content that can show my progress, but after the changes, it's like I'm back a year ago... just playing for the sake of pulling shards since I'm already at the point of just saving, just collection game basically atm
If you don't want to play raid anymore, then can I have your raid account
so taunt is out, ally atk is out, doing dmg on decapitated heads is out, doing dmg to new heads 90% of the times is out ... cute ... next nerf hp burn and remove hex effect
You forgot %50 damage reduction for everything
The easiest solution and the best way to get the message through would be if everybody stops doing Hydra for a while. If they are monitoring metrics at all, they’ll see that hydra is no longer being used as a game mode and may consider not screwing over the player base for once. Lol who am I kidding?
theyre tryna make people do 0 dmg, the serpent will buff wasnt enough 🤣
Next they will make Hydra remove your gear or some dumb shit
@@SkratchPlaysYeah like if your Champs gets devoured, the acid destroys the gear or something 😂 Wouldn't wonder if Plarium is already planning that
@@alphalitearmies9956 1M silver per piece to repair it after the battle, but each time a piece gets destroyed in a battle the cost goes up (exponentially ofc)…
Stop giving them even more ideas😅
@@SkratchPlays Hydra gets odin passive
hydra before all of the changes was so nice to play and i was excited every week to play it. now i HATE it with a passion
maybe they are testing the reaction from the players, so as players we must speak with our action, called out on their bullshit, stop spending or stop playing until the game is fun again. thanks you skratch for not sugar coating your reaction and showing your raw frustration
darthmicrotransaction dipped at the right time lmao
And - forced to play Live Arena for the advanced quests. They can p1ss off. Every time I am asked/forced to play live Arena, and therefore lose a refill because I won't, will be a month I don't spend. So, I expect I will be free to play soon.
Forget live arena, I’m sick of the damn do 7 campaign battles or 3 boss battles in daily quest 😭
LA quest is not a part of advanced quest, it has separate quest under LA
@peanutbutter4166 500 camping battles in a month. Literally takes me the last 3 days of the month to do it to not miss out on my void and sacred shard... so stupid
@@RevertMoon "There is also one new Advanced quest - Win 1 Live Arena Battle".
GREAT TIMING FOR king Arthur legends rISE ! LETS GO AHAH
Shadiest part is how they didn’t mention this change in any notice.
My favorite in hydra is the head respawning while it has 2turns and 0 turn meter.... i love when it happens or even when the heads get double the turn meter and spawn with 1 turn instead of 2 that is also amazing
doom tower and hydra were my favorite two parts of the game - they really show natural progression of your account, whether you are ftp, low spender, high spender whatever, now I do one hydra battle to get a reward once a week (if I remember). Otherwise, that and the little red dot on seige may as well not even exist for me
I hate to be that guy, but I have to say, this is probably the last straw for me. Hydra was my favorite game mode. I watched them kill it with the last update and then seal the coffin shut with this one. I really feel like most of us are still here because of the sunken cost fallacy. GG plarium.
Can I have your raid account then
That’s How you kill a game mode.! ☠️
So they are basically acting like the head is killed but the heads respawn so you didn't kill anything, this is crazy they need to take away the no damage when heads respawn then
This is the worst thing they've done since they made head of decay destroy 75% of your HP. They reverted that, they have to revert this one. If they don't players will leave, in droves. If they don't fix it, I'm doing a 1 key NM, and that will be it. No clash, at all.
K unpopular take but I'm still happy with the changes. I been taking down hydra regularly since before they nerfed hydra and added the provoke option. I didnt complain when they made it easier, and I'm not complaining now either. For me, these bs billion point teams were a bigger issue. Its still easy for end game accounts to one key the best chests, but no longer can you cheese ridiculous scores. Fine by me
Plarium's next idea: "I know how to fix Hydra!" -> makes every abilities of champions work as simple as this "attacks one enemy"
I literally just got Mikage a bit ago, booked her up and geared her this morning along with Ninja during the Champ training and artefact enhancement for the Gretel fusion. Was super excited and took them into hydra to see what they could do... Have a test run going on in the background while I decided to pull up this video... welp... frick me I guess.
Edit: All they had to do was change Yumeko to not reset herself and behave like every other reset champ...
Same, finally got mikage
This change doesn't really affect my teams at all, but my teams aren't very strong anyway.
To be fair, this change does make sense. In any other game mode, when the enemy has no HP left you can't keep dealing damage to them, and the ally attack won't bring more people in if the target is already dead.
That being said, Hydra has always allowed for full team ally attack even when heads die and respawn.
Plarium should compromise and allow the full ally attack, but the ally attack continues on the respawned head.
I spent money to get teox and onryo, Built a incredible team for hydra. Now its pretty much a waste of money and time. What was the point?
The only thing they need to do now is to get rid of overkill damage as a whole, then everyone starts playing on an even field. Just kill as many heads as possible during your run. No exaggerated numbers just count the damage of heads HP. No matter you play Trunda or ally attack, it will make sense for everyone.
People will still claim top chests.
Clash will be fixed.
Plarium sits with big W.
Only the whale clans will be mad because they cant reach crazy numbers as they did before.
Took a shit on everyone else 😂😂😂 love it
This is probably the logic behind this:
Attack ONE enemy multiple time. When you cut of a head, the severed head is still the same enemy. If you kill the severed head, a NEW head/enemy spawns in its place in between multiple hits interupting the attack.
They are sick , what a shitty company, thanks for share this shit with us , you should encourage other CCs to talk about this situation. Waiting for Godforge and move us all there
the surplus dmg from aly attack was the only way to deal the dmg that showed your acount strength. Now after this update every team with enough dmg to kill the hp bar fast will do all very equal dmg its so boring now.
take away the hydra head HP bar and go back to unlimited damage, 2 turns exposed necks. Make 100% damage reduction buff only possible on 2-3 heads max. Nerf trunda into the ground. Hydra fixed.. instead Plarium will create the problem and sell you more solutions, just like polymorph...
Thats very disappointing but if im being honest i only top chest now. My interest is back to like before, get the top chest and move on. I don't even look at clash anymore or even try to do any damage. If they are gonna screw us then I'll save my time and put forth no effort in that area of the game.
Exactly.
This is the way
So they removed overkill damage.
To be fair, this is what happens everywhere else, BUT, Overkill damage was always a Hydra mechanic to up dmg, specifically on decapitated heads. This nonsense is exactly why every single CC took pause when they said "complicated solution". That translated to overtuning and a complete redesign to make the Hydra more difficult as though it was brand new endgame content.
I thought exactly the same, now that the heads have a finite amount of health points. If you do end up depleting that it doesn’t make sense that your other champs attack. Since technically the target has been killed. This wasn’t a problem before because the heads had infinite amount of health points.
Vulkanos is the new meta boys wallets out !
This is what full blown incompetence and a complete lack of ethics looks like.
Ive never seen a game fumble the balll so bad. its almost as if they want godforge to come in and take their business. Lol
Ironic thing was there were all these supposed Raid killers, EE, Dragonair, Watcher of Realms, and now King Arthur. Then Raid just keeps working harder and harder to destroy itself. Cheers Raid you will be the only Raid killer.
This all stemmed from them not having the courage to nerf Yumeko. The real issue with Trunda teams
both were issues
Flood the Report Box of Plarium. Someone needs to be fired. LIKE NOW
The damage is lower on the second hit because you hit the Cap of Health from that Decapitated Head. And the Ally Attack doesn’t go because it’s technically a “new Champion” which is why it still works when going from Head to Decapitated Head
So they cut the damage off for an ally attack, but not a single hit?… so why is there a diff standard again?
Higher than my favorite game mode for almost 9 months now and basically what they did was just take the fun out of it which is complete BS. I knew this was going to happen the second they introduced Hydra Clash
Problem wasn't hydra itself but hydra clash, just fix the points or put a cap
ill give them until Christmas, if Hydra is still shit im put. Dont enjoy it a bit atm.
Every week is just more bad changes from Plarium. What is going on here. We play the game to escape rl problems so we dont want to be pissed off here too!
I don't do Hydra at all. They are making it less and less fun, making it take longer, and taking away the entire point of their game....get the right champions, in the right gear, with the right allies and you can compete at the highest levels...
I don't understand why they take away the joy of gaming.
I love raid but they better be careful at this point. Watcher of realms been releasing great updates. King arthur is coming out soon and personally that game kinda blows raid out the water when it comes to interacting with players and how boss fights look and work. Raid is slowly falling behind when it comes to quality and satisfaction.
They literally killed my Fenax. I will never forget this Plarium. Wish I did all three of my keys already. I just built Fenax number 2 also 6 star CR and now I’m vexed…..terribly vexed
I watched them decide they were too generous in the beginning by giving sacred shards away in demon lord, so they added another tier of champs from primal shards that basically need to be bought. I'm guessing they decided hydra rewards were made too easy too? I don't see why else they would keep making it harder.
Im done manually running keys. Saves me a TON of time, so I guess thanks plarium employees for being incompetent.
That already happened to me after the initial hydra changes (with the Fatman). It works the same way as ally attack in arena. I did report it to plarium back then.
I'm sadly convinced at this point they don't care about balance or fun they are just trying to equalize the damage being done across hydra as a form of balance by capping all of the damage. I'm actually in a state of disbelief Of what I just watched. I'm very confused in what they're thinking in how this is good or acceptable.
Thought I was going crazy, tested a team 2 days ago , got 410mil , today 320 using toshiro and othorion. Also got endalia (last mikage piece) in the guaranteed. Damn that's disappointing...
WTF the shitstorm is coming. But skratch on steriods is very funny :-)
I feel that there trying kill hydra and game ad a whole game has out lived 99% of most games and now there at point to were they can basically screw up then close doors on it when players that spend quite 😊
So ally attack is R.I.P. Why they just stop, hydra has 4 heads to attack and if the head spawns the attack to some head should be going
If thorns procs when he deals the final blow to a decapitated head, it doesn't even register a hit on that head.
Thinking about it a bit calmly i would say its a Mechanic that is in EVERY part in the game, Arena, Doom Tower, Cursed City, Dungeons and so on BUT it was one of the Main dmg sources we had on Hydra. First they "reduced" the posible dmg with "capping" the decapitate Head HP and now they reduce it even more with that Mechanic. Thats a big Joke!
They "reduced" the Time we need to play Hydra with the Turn counter but at the other hand they Force us to Play Manuel or else we dont get any decent dmg in.
A small change to help lower end players especially would be to buff hp burn damage. 20k-30k a head is honestly pathetically low, especially with how much they seem to value it.
This must be joke!! Trunda was still way overpowered compared to other teams, now they are nuking all ally attacks and multi-hitters...
I salute you sir! All the content creators need to make stand on this.
All they had to do was let Siegfrund’s god sword work on incapacitated heads and people would have been happy. Instead they let tundra reign and now this is the wrought
I realized when I did a 1 million point hit and the downed head had a sliver of health left, I only got points for the health remaining. This happened after last update, this update they changed the fact that points were showing on screen and not giving you them. Now they just stop when health is gone.
Thats 100% not true. Before this update you got exactly the points displayed. When you hit a decapitated head with a double hit, dealing 1 Million dmg each, you got 2 Million damage, even if that head just had 1 HP.
@patsan3540 nope last hydra I hit a head with a million damage and only got 1/10 of that
Everyone should write a complaint ticket. If a video is made about it, I'm sure there'd be plenty of positive community feedback.
I think the Hydra issues have escalated to the point where it is necessary.
It's time for another 1 star review bomb. And people in the big clans need to convince their clanmates to stop spending for a month. Just bitching about it online isn't going to change them. Have to hit them where it matters.
Basically they capped the hp on decapitated heads, u can't do more then it's max hp! Makes sense in a way but the draining hp bar is bullshit for sure agree!
I feel like my last round I didn't do nearly enough damage, I guess this is why. I've got two Trundas, but only really use one ... guess I'll need to review my build for Trunda number two to make sure she's built well.
Tbh this change makes sense if you want a realistic game. U cannot damage the new form of a monster reviving. Now how realistic this context is, is another thing. Obviously i hate this change but i stopped taking hydra seriously with previous changes that cut my dmg by 60- 65%. So
we are lucky that we have creators like you that point all this problems, but unlucky that plarium don't listen. thanks for all the content
I hate all of the changes to hydra surely there was a better way to sort out the op teams
hydra was the only thing that was fun for end game now its not even fun and wasting more time than before. the game is becoming a chore not fun.
As you've said, people did start to enjoy hydra. First brought some nice champs for hydra and now they've killed the best game mode completely. wasn't enough to let us attack without dealing damage while playing manual...
I mean, to be fair, they'll save people a lot of time on hydra because a lot of people won't bother with it any more
I hope Plarium made a mistake when stating this change was intended. I can't think of any reason why Hydra needed this change. And why Plarium wouldn't state this change in the patch notes. I think Plarium needs to make a public announcement to everyone regarding this change. And it think they need to seriously reconsider keeping this change in the game, as well as whatever process(es) they have in place that allowed this change to go unannounced.
How is ANYONE surprised at this? Plarium don't care, and never will, they just care if you spend, that's it
Was getting bored with the game about 6 months. Then surprised myself by getting excited about hydra team-building. My best team advanced from barely one-keying hard to doing 400M on nightmare. Post-Nerf: Last week I only did 92M (after 5 manual attempts!!). Today, my first attempt was half of last week's score.
Plarium DESERVES to go out of business. I would NEVER download and play another of their games. EVER.
Okay but is this all they changed?
I just ran a hydra brutal and everything was going okay until two of my champs were fully eaten and devoured within about thirty turns. I've never had it happen that quick before, like ever... Are we sure they didn't change something with how quickly champs are devoured?
Tbh looks like this is an unintended bug. I'm sure will be fixed as soon as news gets to plarium officials
Here me out guys, there's this game called "King Arthur Legends", looks really fun. I am thinking about completely switching to it, it is actually a pretty hard decision considering the amount of time (no money gladly) I've put into this game (and I think plarium knows this).
Well, if you happen to switch games then can I have your raid account
Had 3 heads respawn at the same time and 2 of the 3 had the serpants buff... works as intended right?
Its stupid, but intended.
Most of the changes didn't irk me and I gave them the benefit of the doubt but this one is just so fucking stupid it hurts. It's decisions like this that stop me from spending in the game. What's next? Instead of nerfing the mark of hydra they probably will buff it and make all hydra heads get it whenever any head respawns. Man they are having a good time these past couple weeks.
If I didn’t practically quit 3 months ago I would be livid and I have Trunda
Well I’m tempted to stop. Probably gonna take a break for November and see, but yeah I’m done with Hydra. I’ll figure things out with stone skin. They don’t encourage champs for protection anyway. Also the fact the souls are just way too hard to get, I’m not encouraged to try. Why try anymore? Arena is hit or miss depending on my mood and how bad RNG is. It’s like they don’t want us to even compete. I loved doing better than Trunda teams. I had a team that was 1.5 billion and I’m F2P. Team had no Trunda, no reset, no teox, nothing op. Mostly ninja, mikage, and Thor. I felt soo good beating a whale on my clan who did Trunda team. His was 1.5. Felt great. Now he’s still pretty much 1 b and I’m at like 400m… sucks. Just doesn’t feel good
8 people left my clan man they killing this game on purpose
Yeah! Next update, no overkill damage. We just turn Hydra into a discount whack 'em all.
WTF!!!! I'm so close to quitting this game. 4 years in and they keep making the game worse.
I NEVER did hydra before, and now I can't even 1 key anyways. Everyone needs to give a 1 Star Review like I did!
remember guys, profits first, game 2nd or sometimes 3rd XD dont forget that taunt got nerfed too.
Good thing I got Mithrala last week. I’m done with hydra until they make it playable again. Most of my clan don’t even play it right now too soo lol
so basically they were trying to fix trunda splash damage by capping the damage on dead heads, and since they have the best knowledge of the games mechanics out of anyone ever alive, they did just that and happily now state that this trunda fix is intended. The reality is, they had no clue how shit works... again... think their fix would achieve what they was hoping it would, didnt feel the need to test it, just misunderstand the reports due to illiteracy causing reading errors for their egobloated brains and this is the endresult. I commented on an older post the other day about the first hydra changes, because someone was smoking the plarium sausage too hard and said that it only affects people who dealt too much damage, we should stop crying if we still got highest chest (he mixed classchest and normal chests here while talking about hydra clash, no one cares about the normal chests) and said that trunda was now not gonna win and this was all good... Wonder where that paid chill is today.. some people here just copypasta plariums statements and trying to feel superior. Bunch of morons everywhere unfortunately. Plarium is incompetent, i have not even played this game 1 year and there has already been atleast 4 MAJOR fuckups that would be unthinkable to even be a possibility for any other gaming dev company going back 10+ years. Atrocious, they need to stop sheltering their og employes and actually employ ppl with some form of education in their profession.
thats why i keep saying everyone should boycott Hydra until Plarium reverts their stupid changes
Might as well, make Trunda a starter champ and face of Raid, funny enough I don't use her for any clans boss, barely use her at all