Do it like Wilder vs Joshua 1st so we can unify the division. Joshua gets koed cold by Wilder. Fury rematch wilder with wilder having all titles and losing to Fury and Fury defend them against Joshua. Joshua would probably win and give Fury a rematch. The rematch would determine who's the greatest.
oscar mayer I disagree lol. There was zero build up for this fight. Nobody was talking about it until the last couple days. It was poor marketing for one of the biggest fights that boxing as ever had in a long time
@@CaptainRealm that's not it, marketing costs money, the return wouldn't be enough, truth is wylder is not a liked or popular fighter, there's more potential of build up and money from Fury side, because of the European fanbase
The relief and celebration on Wilder's team when the draw was announced and the disbelief on Furys side says all you need to know... Wilders camp was relieved with a draw, they knew they lost.
Fury could have been stopped if the referee wanted to. After the second KD most referees could have counted Fury out before he tried to get up. There's a saying in boxing: there's always a puncher's chance to end a fight.
Merveil Meok I can tell you watched Showtime Pay-Per view, yes they mentioned that. That’s what separates a championship match referee and an average ass referee. They know when to step in and not ruin a match.
Thats because ESPN has contracts with the NBA and NFL.. Thats why u see no Boxing, no Baseball, No MMA, No Hockey, No Socccer etc.. They get paid from NBA and NFL so they are a basketball and football show.. Pretty sad
This fight is draw because a lot of round Tyson fury score every punch but wilder is back and knock out Tyson fury but fury is back and punch job again thats is decision draw from judge
I know right I gave him 3 rounds and a lot of people gave him 3 rounds and a lot of people gave wilder 2. And even in the 12th round I wouldn’t give wilder a 10-8 round cuz fury got up and beat him up for 2 minutes so I gave last round a 10-9
The same people saying Fury won because he outboxed Deontay are the same people who say Pacman beat May weather because he had more effective punches. I wonder what the underlying cause is that changes someone stance for victory with different boxers?
Its about hit and not get hit. Blocking punches with you face like a dumb Neanderthal and getting brain damage is not boxing. Stop watching shitty hollywood movies.
Casuals complaining about the ref asking Fury to walk to him and asking him repeatedly is he ok .... that’s the correct call by the ref after someone gets hit like that and pops back up....... if Fury looked wobbly or hurt the ref would’ve waved it off ... it’s for the fighters safety .
Anubis yea I'm the casual when you're the one who cant see fury who is a gypsy boxer has his own unorthodox style. Wilder is one step away from being a street brawler himself, wilder is basically a slightly stronger younger kimbo.
Knuckle game if its straight knockouts then butterbean is one of the bestboxers in history. I mean cmon I love watching the guy fight but he didnt win boxing matches he won dogfights that's why he was awesome to watch.
Thot Police it’s a joke, and a shame. Shameful scoring, the guy gave wilder the first 7 rounds or something crazy like that. Ref did great, judges screwed over the sport.
The Butler Channel no.. yes .. i think ir was boring fight and when you get knocked down you lose 2points and boxer gains 1point .. do the math thats 6 points thats 50/50 what boxing needs is a 13th round no even ending at 11 fury won and if it went to 13 its all wilder on KO ..
@Zooce Pierce The scoring of a knockdown round is 10-8. Wilder knocked him down twice. People are saying Wilder only won the rounds the got a knockdown if that's true then the scorecards should be 116-110 for Fury. Now, let's be generous and say Wilder won 3 rounds it would be 115-111. The only way to score it a draw is 113-113 letting Wilder win 5 rounds. Do you really believe Wilder won 5 rounds?
Mixed Man The rounds need to be awarded on a majority basis. If one judge gives the first five rounds to Wilder but the other two judges only give Wilder two of those rounds while giving Fury the other three, then guess what? After five rounds Fury is up 3-2. Awarding rounds on a majority basis eliminates outliers and produces a single scoring set. Boxing should also make judges’ scorecards public information and rank judges on something called inter-rater reliability. Simply put, it is the percentage of time a judge votes with the majority. The judge that gave Wilder the first five rounds only voted in the majority 7 out of 12 opportunities. By contrast, one of the other judges voted in the majority all 12 rounds. The first judge would be said to have an inter-rater reliability rating of 58% while the second judge’s inter-rater reliability rating would be 100%. But only in my perfect world would any of these changes ever be implemented, even though they would go a long way to establishing some semblance of credibility to the sport of boxing. I’m not going to hold my breath.
Fix It Angel but bro when it’s a master class of boxing then they should give!! I mean really , wilder won round 9 and 12 so that’s 8 / 4 to fury 🤷🏻♂️ what happened
people really dont get fighting sports 🤦♂️ just because you knock sombody down twice doesnt mean you win the fight , BOXING is an art form with so much technique involved . fury outboxed wilder all fight and it wasnt even close , fury wins 9 out of the 12 rounds , it doesnt matter if he got knocked down twice , he controles the whole fight and outboxed wilder which is why he shoulda won
eb thing is a lot of people remove the sport part from fighting sports. And as such seeing Wilder drop him has more weight for them than the amount of points Fury got.
eb it’s basically like a basketball team winning by 20 but in the last 2 minutes there best player gets dunked on. THEY STILL LOST BY 20 lolll but 90% of the ppl saying Wilder won are casual fans. 10% are slow.
@nobcheesy your an idiot in boxing when someone us dropped they HAVE to be up on both feet within 10sec and the ref stopped counting at 9 to ask if tyson was okay lol they both got robbed
i disagree, i mean fury had points on jabs but wilder was aggressive, people were too focused on watching fury fight but watch it again.. it was too close to call a winner..
@@victorreyes9762 i went into the fight wanting Wilder to win but i have no idea how he didnt lose the fight. It was frustrating watching how inaccurate Wilder was the entire fight. I scored the fight 8 rounds to 4 in favor of Tyson Fury. idk how the 2 knockdowns made up for the huge hole Deontay put himself in the entire fight
@@deiondre0 i agree, with the k.o, idk how, but throughout the rounds if you watch wilder he didnt throw too many shots, but most of the ones he did connected in combo.. fury looked great but all he actually had was the jab in his favor.. he didnt really land combo's, which eventually wilder caught up with.
Victor Reyes exactly people greatly over exaggerate the work that Tyson Fury put in just because he outboxed him, most of the rounds he won was off of a couple of effective counter punches in each round.
Which would have made him winning the match that much better. Not only did he have years off because of drug abuse but he was able to pull off a one sided win against “the most feared man in the heavyweight division”.
The draw means Wilder v Fury 2 will be next. But, the one guy made a good point about when Wilder fights AJ. Wilder has no technique and he fights very sloppy and wild. AJ like Fury can slip them punches and outbox Wilder. Now AJ doesn't box as well as Fury, in my opinion, but AJ definitely hits harder than Fury. So AJ v Wilder would be an interesting fight to me.
Touche Wilder has the heart of a lion, what I mean is he can be down on the score card and still be a threat at any given round. Moral of the story is if you don't knock Wilder out he's probably going to knock you out at some point. Wilder vs a knock out artist like himself would be damn near suicide for him.
wilder fury 2 is on the rematch clause if fury had won. Draw means wilder remains undefeated. which seems to be a big thing in america when considering PPV fights. Great fighters would have had defeats as they never pick their fights, unlike a certain self proclaimed great just because he is undefeated.... officially.
No only Fury fanboys "know". It was a draw officially. To take a belt you need to win clearly and convince the judges. It cannot be said Fury won clearly. He got dropped twice, you can't have any claim for a belt after.
Fury has excellent defense,agility and was making Wilder miss his punches.But even with that agility Wilder was able to hit him and setup two good punches and down he went twice.
Like I've been telling people Wilder is overrated lacks basic boxing fundamentals and brings nothing to the ring but punching power. Even if you want to give him the 2 rounds he knocked Fury down and an additional round he still loses the fight clearly. Politics is ruining the competitive nature of boxing and those judges need to have their license revoked
Smh what ppl fail too realize wilder first love was I think football or basketball and something happen in life where he changed careers now with that said so too get where he's at is a tremendous accomplishment now I agree he need too work on fundamentals yes and maybe he got bored due too all his victories but I think this will wake wilder up just too get back too the basic
JAYLOVE47 but you telling people inaccurate information, wilder is in no way overrated, you are just a hater , do you understand that with that weight difference wilder was definitely not supposed to be able to be the aggressor there
I have never seen someone lay motionless on the ground for so long 13 seconds I counted there is no way the fight should have been called right then and there wilder needs a new coach if that dude learns how to have better foot work and movement watch out
Philippe H. Lmao you don’t make up rules and decide it’s 10-6. Somewhat understand the ko argument, but he came back and clearly was present. Cmon if you’re a true fan you can’t honestly say that fight was a draw. Round by round, fury won.
Philippe H. Maybe but this was boxing in a title match, so it doesn’t matter what ufc rulings are. Knockdowns are 10-8 rounds. There is no 10-6 rounds.
Dude, you can’t get hit down two times and not even put down the champion at even once and expect to win, there’s no way you win on point especially u you got dropped two times
Nile McDonald no.. yes .. i think ir was boring fight and when you get knocked down you lose 2points and boxer gains 1point .. do the math thats 6 points thats 50/50 what boxing needs is a 13th round no even ending at 11 fury won and if it went to 13 its all wilder on KO ..
Anthony Joshua was mislead by his management team. He has blown his opportunity. I don't care about Joshua vs Wilder or Fury. I want to see Wilder vs Fury II.
@The Jaw Breaker. ? Wilder is C side alright: C (Champion) and Fury is C (Challenger #1). Joshua is also C (Clusterfucked) who thought he was C (Creed). Joshua overestimated his value and now we want Wilder-Fury II.
Tom Smith Facts. Boxing ends up being more about matchup than who's the best. While many feel now like AJ would whip either of these guys, it's irrelevant. We now want to see the two more interesting fighters settle who has more heart in a rematch.
I had it 115 - 111 Fury. Even after Wilder floored Fury in the 12th, Fury got up and still scored punches on Wilders face. Fury won, hands down! A rematch is definitely in order. This time in Fury's back yard.
JD 1 no.. yes .. i think ir was boring fight and when you get knocked down you lose 2points and boxer gains 1point .. do the math thats 6 points thats 50/50 what boxing needs is a 13th round no even ending at 11 fury won and if it went to 13 its all wilder on KO ..
Deon Phillips nah man his coach can tweak his style at least a little. Lennox taught him how to throw a jab, and he tries to do what he was taught but since that was a quick 5min thing he doesn’t remember it properly. It’s up to his trainer which I believe was a former Olympian to train him.
You don’t box a boxer lol, you’d end up looking like canelo in the Mayweather fight. I was just mad that he kept leading with his right when his jab was bloodying up Tyson’s nose
Underestimating Fury’s punching power is foolish. While it’s not on the same level as Wilders, it’s still excellent. His game plan was to outbox Wilder. By Wilder’s own admission he was rushing his punches and trying to KO Fury. This is a mistake Fury did not make. Fury throws heavy bombs and clearly stunned Wilder. However Wilders punch speed is almost unheard of
Damn when Stephen a Smith says a white man win the fight over the brother you know he really won cus Stephen a Smith looked like it hurt him to admit that 🤔😨😥😂my man fury got up like the undertaker⚰️😵
Wilder is one dimensional but very good at it. Has un-real power honestly beleive he is one of the hardest hitting heavyweight ever. Fury is just special.
Everything this Man said is Fact. Wilder won 2 rounds easy and 1 other round, add the points up Referee who gave wilder is fixed, And "how the hell did he get up". Best interview in truth And I'm a Wilder Fan and bet on him
I couldn't agree more... This draw is the definition of a daylight robbery! And I know everyone is saying the word 'robbery', but that's because it's completly true.
mmgmcnatt Really? I actually like Mauro Ranallo, he's commentated for Pride,K1, and Bellator. Though he can be over the top at times, it's part of his schtick. I wouldn't mind seeing a panel of Kellerman, Malignaggi, and Ranallo.
I had 5 RD a Draw. Had Fury winning 114-113 now saying that if you get knocked down twice and on the road don’t be surprised you didn’t walk away with the belt. Everyone know how judges are in boxing!
So EVERYBODY who has half a boxing brain KNOWS WITHOUT DOUBT that Tyson Fury won. So why isn't the judge who scored the fight 111 to 115 being investigated??? A massive fine and struck off for life. A travesty and a disgrace to the sport.
The idiot gave wilder the first 6 rounds! The only explanation for that is they are either corrupt or completely incompetent. Either way, they should be banned from judging permanently.
Ian Cohgneetoh : unfortunately it's the business aspect of it all... the heavy weight division is very small so what they have ask themselves is... how can we stretch this out and make more money.... by deciding a draw and having a rematch. Once the rematch is over, the big fight everyone really wants is the D Wilder vs Aj which you can almost guarantee a draw will be the outcome(saying it half jokingly). I can see why they do it but I don't agree with it because you loose boxing fans by turning them off from the division or the boxing sport all together, but the funny thing is its a catch a 22, they try to stretch out the fights for fans to pay and watch but end up loosing them same paying fans when they get turned of from the sport. The purity of the sport is long gone when big money got involved.
Yeah the first few rounds were close, Just because fury acted like he won the rounds doesn't mean he did. Fury is the best boxer at that weight, but If you match styles up, I think wilder did what he does best better than fury doing what he does best.
When you are a great technical boxer, you can't be hitting the floor twice is all i'm saying. boxing isn't corrupt, but sometimes they do protect the money and a consistent knockout puncher like wilder is where the money is.
fury got knocked out plain and simple and if it wasn't for that ref not doing his job correctly it would have been a KO.. given 15 seconds to a person to get up. Please!!
YOU JUDGE A FIGHT BY THE ROUNDS NOT BY THE FIGHT IN ITS WHOLE. 2 knockdowns in two different rounds is 2 rounds won. You could give him 2 other rounds with those 2 knockdown rounds a 10-8 he still loses. And I would argue he didn’t win any rounds outside those to knockdown rounds. Wilder lost big time this is why boxing is dead
if you give him 2 other rounds plus the 2 rounds he knocked him down then you have a draw at 6-6. its all point based. The knock downs are scored 10-8 x 2 so that's equivalent to 4 rounds plus the other 2 you are giving him equals 6 points or 6 rounds at 10-9....a draw is fair
@@MaseTMT More exciting maybe. But you can't call Joshua vs. Klitschko a better heavyweight bout than the one on Saturday. If anything, that fight showed how much better of a boxer Fury was than Joshua. The year before, when Klitschko was just dazed by a 10/10 boxing performance from Fury? That was a perfect boxing fight. Fastforward a year later and Joshua is just eating punches from Klitschko in the 5th and 6th. Keep in mind the difference of 12 years inbetween the two.
@@Xmasforever1 That's why I said best. I know people or AJ defenders would say him and Klitschko. Saturday was prime vs prime and I wouldn't be shocked if it finished in the top 2 for fight of the year.
@@Jason-me1bs Absolutely correct ! Too easy to blame the Americans... they had nothing to do with the judging... 1 Canadian, 1 Mexican and 1 English judge. Ha ha ah were they bribed ? Different matter. Tbf seen a lot of comments and vids by American boxing fans and pundits who said they thought Tyson won. Disgraceful scoring.
The only other time I seen a guy go down and look out and got up was when Ali got knocked down by Frazier in their first fight. The Heavyweight division is BACK. With interest.
@@jackcarter4946 Now lets be fair. Watch a tableful of Scousers with a few warm beers and kidney pies in them, carrying on about George Best. Makes these guys look like librarians.
For about 3-4 seconds, I thought he was dead.. Great fight! Fury won. Period. WBC dragging that shit out for another Fight.. For that cashhhhh! -BOMB SQUAD
give me a break..... a knockdown is NOT AUTOMATICALLY a 2 point round for Wilder If Wilder is getting his ass out boxed for 2 minutes and 30 seconds of a round....at that point it would be a 10-9 round for Fury. A lucky haymaker for Wilder does not magically erase Furys 10-9 round he had going and make it a 10-8 round for Wilder. That would be a THREE point swing and is absurd. At best it would turn it into a 1 point round for Wilder. but whatever....and listen to Max trying to justify it....he says the knockdowns were 2 point rounds for wilder so all he had to do is win 3 other rounds for a draw.....hell Wilder didnt win 3 rounds if you include the knockdown rounds ....much less 3 more on top of that lol
Shifu Careaga yup. Called Fury. Showing how hes rising up undefeataed. Beats klitchsko in germany. Then goes through troubles. Controversial draw. Then beats wilder rematch to get the wbc. Then faces Joshua ... DAMN WHAT A MOVIE
80% if not more of the pros say fury should have won but yet we still have “RUclips boxing experts” crying in all the comments, get over yourselves people, if all the pros say he won you no longer get to disagree, have a nice day
jeremiah greenwood I understand that, I don’t have as much of an issue with the draw as I do with all these idiots saying wilder should have won, that’s the point I was trying to make, we know fury was ahead on score and when it goes the distance that is literally the only thing that matters, wilder had 12 rounds to stop that from happening and he came close with those two bombs but that by no means won him the fight or even earned him a draw in the eyes of most professionals, but it is what it is, rematch will be awesome.
@Leon Barnett Lmao idiots. Go and watch the round timer at the bottom of the screen...then slap yourself in the face for being a dumbass. Fury got up less than 10 seconds after he fell, if you don't believe the referee then maybe you'll believe the digital timer ON THE ACTUAL SCREEN LMAO
@Rio Da Fire Guy Hit the deck at 2:25 and was up at 2:16 on the timer, that's 9 seconds just incase you can't count dumb dumb. The ref checking Fury was fit to continue afterwards is standard in boxing so he doesn't send a man back out to get brain damaged or killed, Wilder still had over 2 minutes left to finish the job and couldn't. Facts.
Stephen A don't know shit about boxing... You can not win a fight on your ass.. Not to mention a 13 count 12th round knock down.. Hats off to both fighters it was scored perfectly a draw.
The thing that's strange to me is that after the fight Wilder knew his mistakes almost immediately, he mentioned that he was swinging crazy and was not composed enough during the fight. Hopefully, he learns from this, Fury didn't even care that it was a draw lol seems like he's just happy he's back in the ring. But hearing what he went through I am happy for him too.
The same reason that wilder won,kind of. Affirmative action. Women get jobs just because they are women, not because they are qualified. For any job a woman can do, a man can do better.
No the fuck he didn’t Ortiz rocked wilder and wilder started clinching so he could survive the round which is what you’re supposed to do he used survival skills and never touched the canvas so what are you talking about lol?
@@myron314 He's talking about the extra time they gave him at the beginning of the round. There was no cut and the ref had the doctor take a look at Wilder, gave him a long time to recover before the start of the 8th round.
Wilder is an absolute warrior, took big hits but had the heart to shrug it off and stayed on his feet , dropped the other guy TWICE and yet people said he should have lost !!! Wilder is the real man here !!!
@@chiefdonreed6353 exactly. Fury schooled wilder most the fight but he got put on his ass and couldn't get up before the 10 secound mark which is why the ref should've stopped the fight "hence" why wilder should've won, not fury.
@@aaronjohnson3463 UK regularly holds fights with 90k seats. What's the average in the USA 30k? Behave yourself. The only Money in the USA is Mayweather.
The winner of this fight was supposed to fight Anthony Joshua, but if it was a draw, that would be another rematch which means more money for boxing. Sports now a days make me sick and are all corrupt
Adrian Calamia not true, they had a two way rematch clause meaning whoever lost could get a rematch. The draw opens up more of an opportunity for the Joshua fight than if either of them had won
Actually they had a mandatory rematch win or lose. But as it was a draw they might do the AJ fight before the rematch, if they even do one. Tyson Fury explained it in a Interview
Fury already said, while he wants a rematch, he gonna have some family time.... So the Wilder Joshua fight will probably be 1st then a rematch or Fury vs Joshua if he beats Wilder.....
@@goplanit False, if the other boxer is extremely dominant in a round but gets knocked down he can still win the round on the cards, but the knockdown would give him the point deduction. This would make it a 9-9 round.
@@goplanit Yes it can, if a boxer gets knocked down but dominates the round, it can be scored 10-9 against them (See Pacquaio v Cotto). It's not used often as judging tends to be very lazy,
ALL THIS FURY WON STUFF MANY ARE THROWING AS THOUGH IT WAS SO OUTRIGHT CLEAR IS NONESENSE ...!!WON CAN SAY THE SAME AS WILDER !! HE HAS MORE OF A CLAIM BUT A DRAW IS FAIR !!
Fury shouldn’t have eaten the canvas twice. The defending champ always gets the leg up... and if that champ puts you down not once but twice?! Yeh it’s a tie go cry somewhere else
Alejandro Rochin(One of the three judges) scored the fight 115 - 111 to wilder. This means even if wilder didnt knock fury out in the 9th and 12th rounds and instead Alejandro gave both those rounds to fury, on his scorecard it would of been a draw. That really puts into perspective how wrong and delusional Alejandro is. How could you possibly score that fight a draw if wilder hadnt knocked fury out in the 9th and 12th, it would be a clear and undeniable win for fury, yet in theory that judge would of scored it as a draw. Alejandro Rochin needs to be sacked and never be aloud to go anywhere near boxing the rest of his life.
@@ohlawd3699 but then I realized I was getting offended by some socially awkward no life fat white boi who seems to obsessed with black people, so honestly I could care less now
I've maintained for some time now that Wilder is not a boxer, he's just a slugger. Long arms and powerful. Fury would definitely win the rematch, barring some miraculous leap in skill by Wilder.
We know Deontay can knock Fury down. Can Fury knock down Wilder? Was Fury really boxing or surviving? Looks like he was trying to not get "caught" the whole night. Yeah he outboxed a slugger as he should have. But his boxing was only effective to the point of not being hit. Fury's offense given his technical advantages was disappointing. Fury should have been walking down Deontay given that weight advantage.
These guys are yelling at each other about how much they agree with one another
LMAO
😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂
Dude, brilliant
I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU. THATS EXACTLY WATS HAPPENING!! YOU GOT IT SPOT ON!!
Fury got up like he was late for work
Haha sit there for 3 seconds thinking “of fuck I’m late” then haul yourself up lol that’s what I always do
Lol
Funny the first time I seen this comment but this is about 200th time, try new material
lmao
You stole that comment like a dude that steals comments
About time there's excitement in the heavyweight division
Wasn't no excitement.
Wilder the WORSE CHAMP IN HISTORY!
TYSON WAS TOLD 2 THROW THE FIGHT
Do it like Wilder vs Joshua 1st so we can unify the division. Joshua gets koed cold by Wilder. Fury rematch wilder with wilder having all titles and losing to Fury and Fury defend them against Joshua. Joshua would probably win and give Fury a rematch. The rematch would determine who's the greatest.
oscar mayer I disagree lol. There was zero build up for this fight. Nobody was talking about it until the last couple days. It was poor marketing for one of the biggest fights that boxing as ever had in a long time
@@zero-zy2dt Illiterate yet more accomplished than you. You have to step it up boy.
@@CaptainRealm that's not it, marketing costs money, the return wouldn't be enough, truth is wylder is not a liked or popular fighter, there's more potential of build up and money from Fury side, because of the European fanbase
Why are they shouting? Are the mics not working right?
It's because they are American
@@ryankiid16 Ha ha! Clever jab! But I still say they won.
Never watched the show before huh?
Americans
Motorsports in Japan they always yell with or without mics lol
The relief and celebration on Wilder's team when the draw was announced and the disbelief on Furys side says all you need to know... Wilders camp was relieved with a draw, they knew they lost.
Well said G Man 🥊
@Gman
Fake news
Fury could have been stopped if the referee wanted to. After the second KD most referees could have counted Fury out before he tried to get up. There's a saying in boxing: there's always a puncher's chance to end a fight.
I’ve not seen much extra media/interviews on Wilder’s side of things. It’s almost like they don’t want to be questioned about it 🧐🧐
Merveil Meok I can tell you watched Showtime Pay-Per view, yes they mentioned that. That’s what separates a championship match referee and an average ass referee. They know when to step in and not ruin a match.
Tyson Fury woke up like he was late for work.....😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
LOL,🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👏😉👍💪, funny I'm late for work shoot.
😂😂😂
Mr P. 🤣🤣🤣 I know that feeling about being late for work, but I sure as hell wouldn’t want to be Tyson’s shoes. 🤪🤪🤪
Mr P Tyson Fury woke up like shit I was supposed to pick the kids up from school
Mr P These comments are killing me 😂😂😂
Damn they really only gave this 5 minutes but they give Lebron 5 segments a day? Ok ESPN
Thats because ESPN has contracts with the NBA and NFL.. Thats why u see no Boxing, no Baseball, No MMA, No Hockey, No Socccer etc.. They get paid from NBA and NFL so they are a basketball and football show.. Pretty sad
Derrick Likes NBA because nobody cares about boxing. Shits rigged
Whaddya expect from Liberal LeESPN?
It’s not a boxing show.
you got your "likes", happy now
They gave Wilder 7 rounds? LMAO someone call Teddy Atlas
Asap shit crazy lol
This fight is draw because a lot of round Tyson fury score every punch but wilder is back and knock out Tyson fury but fury is back and punch job again thats is decision draw from judge
Clips on Clips WE ARE FIREMEN!!!! WE LIVE IN THE FIRE! 🔥
2 10-8 rounds and the last could have been 10-7. Know the sport before you talk...
I know right I gave him 3 rounds and a lot of people gave him 3 rounds and a lot of people gave wilder 2. And even in the 12th round I wouldn’t give wilder a 10-8 round cuz fury got up and beat him up for 2 minutes so I gave last round a 10-9
9 rounds to 3, how one judge gave the first 6 rounds to Wilder is disgusting, boxing is too corrupt
The same people saying Fury won because he outboxed Deontay are the same people who say Pacman beat May weather because he had more effective punches. I wonder what the underlying cause is that changes someone stance for victory with different boxers?
@@koolaidog3596 No, people saying Wilder won are the people who said Manny won, cos he landed 2 good punches 😭😭
I think they need to have some kind of official inquiry - how on earth could anyone give Wilder the first 3 rounds?
You gotta beat the champ to be the champ. All those love taps not gonna sway the judges after you got knocked down twice
@@DesignzRUs you clearly dont understand how fights are scored
FURY GOT THAT THANOS CHIN
He was juiced up
He doesn't have thanos chin but he has a lot of heart tough boxer.
Wilder got a better chin because he's never been down in the pros
@Mr. Heisenberg yeah that's the excuse Wilder won lol 😂😂😂
Conspiracy theory is the reff gave him smelling salts to wake him up lol
Fury got up like the undertaker
Facts
Lol! ::Rings Funeral Church Bell::
Jerry 85g Yeah that meme was hilarious!
you mean kane?
@@panchotheaddict420 both of them
it ain't about how hard you hit - it's about how hard you can get hit & keep moving forward
Wtf are you talking about. Lol
@Mah e he was asleep the ref waited til he got up..
@@chiefdonreed6353
It took 9.5 seconds you dumbass.
Its about hit and not get hit. Blocking punches with you face like a dumb Neanderthal and getting brain damage is not boxing. Stop watching shitty hollywood movies.
@@कट्टरहिंदू-झ2ट THANKYOU
I don't know how people can dispute this
When max is talking boxing everyone be quiet and listen dang it
Matthew Mclean Max use to be a cheese ball rapper. Haha he’s a dork.
fr bro. boxing is Max's strength. He knows that the most and legit knows what he talking about. Basketball on the otherhand.......lol
Cannondale2019 he knows his stuff tho
Josh Johnson he knows no more than the next casual.
Word..and RAP..😂 other then that it’s debatable 😂🙌🏽
Fury woke up and got up like he'd pissed the bed!
Dude😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@BottomofCali lol
Funny!! 😂
CokeBoiiMontana underrated comment
The world thought he knocked them out!
Casuals complaining about the ref asking Fury to walk to him and asking him repeatedly is he ok .... that’s the correct call by the ref after someone gets hit like that and pops back up....... if Fury looked wobbly or hurt the ref would’ve waved it off ... it’s for the fighters safety .
Wilders fan are still gonna say it was a 10 count
Exactly. The fighters' safety is the ref's number one concern. Shouldn't have to be said but you're right.
Exactly
Well said
Thank you
Fury is by far the better boxer, wilder has the power, joshua has a severe problem with both imo
Joshua is without a doubt a better boxer than both of them but, he is not a better fighter.
Hey look! Casuals
I'm talking about raw boxing ,joshua is a textbook
Anubis yea I'm the casual when you're the one who cant see fury who is a gypsy boxer has his own unorthodox style. Wilder is one step away from being a street brawler himself, wilder is basically a slightly stronger younger kimbo.
Knuckle game if its straight knockouts then butterbean is one of the bestboxers in history. I mean cmon I love watching the guy fight but he didnt win boxing matches he won dogfights that's why he was awesome to watch.
Respect to Stephen A. Smith for admitting when he makes a mistake.
Top man.
They gave wilder 7 rounds? HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Thot Police it’s a joke, and a shame. Shameful scoring, the guy gave wilder the first 7 rounds or something crazy like that. Ref did great, judges screwed over the sport.
Kralj Slovan ur a fuckin joke ggg did not do what fury did to wilder. What a disrespect to canelo boxing skills
@@kraljslovan5003 People need to start streaming more. Fuck paying for PPV if its rigged.
YEA :)) 6 rounds +1 because was boxing in USA :))) all the time this shit is happening look at BUTE vs Badou Jack :)) same thing
Decisions like this are why Boxing is dead
^ TRUE statement
and GGG Canelo 1.
@Luffer Booms same
Agree. Corrupt sport that is all about the money
The Butler Channel no.. yes .. i think ir was boring fight and when you get knocked down you lose 2points and boxer gains 1point .. do the math thats 6 points thats 50/50
what boxing needs is a 13th round no even ending at 11 fury won and if it went to 13 its all wilder on KO ..
115-111 Wilder... That's just fiction. I'm a Wilder fan but that's Fairytales.😂😂😂😂
Bless you sir honesty n integrity in abundance
@Zooce Pierce Wrong it's been done many times go n learn your history
@Zooce Pierce The scoring of a knockdown round is 10-8. Wilder knocked him down twice. People are saying Wilder only won the rounds the got a knockdown if that's true then the scorecards should be 116-110 for Fury. Now, let's be generous and say Wilder won 3 rounds it would be 115-111. The only way to score it a draw is 113-113 letting Wilder win 5 rounds. Do you really believe Wilder won 5 rounds?
Zooce Pierce ur not a boxing fan either u don’t seem to know how to score a match. Fucking casual
@Zooce Pierce bruh.
This is the first time I've ever agreed with these guys. Fury was robbed end of story
No one robbed him of his drugs.
she den nice dad joke
Lol was he robbed while he was sleep 😴 💤
How? ruclips.net/video/s7ObHNmlSaY/видео.html
If they gave wilder two 10-6 rounds it could have been a legit draw but that’s the only way. Fury won the fight hands down.
Fury got up like Michael Myers
L🤣L He got up like Michael Myers after being shot 6X
You mean the undertaker
LMAOOO
Man got up like Kane
Fury on that powda!!!
MAX REALLY BE SPEAKING FACTS WHEN IT COMES TO BOXING 🥊
It's definitely his lane
Unless its pertaining to hbo boxers then hes biased as it gets
The only time I listen to max
He’s always been in boxing for the longest because of his big brother (rip to him) he’s the reason max is who he is now
lil world it’s the only sport he knows.
How the hell could that judge give the first five rounds to Wilder? That judge should be banned for life.
Mixed Man The rounds need to be awarded on a majority basis. If one judge gives the first five rounds to Wilder but the other two judges only give Wilder two of those rounds while giving Fury the other three, then guess what? After five rounds Fury is up 3-2. Awarding rounds on a majority basis eliminates outliers and produces a single scoring set. Boxing should also make judges’ scorecards public information and rank judges on something called inter-rater reliability. Simply put, it is the percentage of time a judge votes with the majority. The judge that gave Wilder the first five rounds only voted in the majority 7 out of 12 opportunities. By contrast, one of the other judges voted in the majority all 12 rounds.
The first judge would be said to have an inter-rater reliability rating of 58% while the second judge’s inter-rater reliability rating would be 100%. But only in my perfect world would any of these changes ever be implemented, even though they would go a long way to establishing some semblance of credibility to the sport of boxing. I’m not going to hold my breath.
Wbu Adelaide Byrd 118-110 for Canelo against GGG who got robbed
Stephen A needs to learn about UK football, him talking about Lukaku and Man U would be legendary 😂😂😂
Also an appearance on Arsenal Fan TV
Tyson Fury has the heart of a true champion. ❤️
Real talk! 💯
@Rio Da Fire Guy you clearly have no comprehension of true greatness I guess. It's not your fault you are a moron, all is forgiven.
Looks like Stephen A was right about Tyson Fury.
You can tell Wilder's trainers train him on how he wants to be trained vs training him the way he should be💯
how much train could a trainer train if a trainer could train train?
Facts
Uncle E - exactly. All he has is that right. And he doesn't even throw that right
Never trust the judges. 2 guys boxing in the ring. You need a KO to guarantee a win.
Always Like to hear Max Kellerman the other dude is a dumass dosent know what he is saying
Fix It Angel but bro when it’s a master class of boxing then they should give!! I mean really , wilder won round 9 and 12 so that’s 8 / 4 to fury 🤷🏻♂️ what happened
@@aaroncrowley6145 a master class? so those gloves boxers wear are just for decoration?
What you on about !! Who talkin about the gloves
If it was mayweather he would still won unanimous despite of 2 Kd.because he is american
people really dont get fighting sports 🤦♂️ just because you knock sombody down twice doesnt mean you win the fight , BOXING is an art form with so much technique involved . fury outboxed wilder all fight and it wasnt even close , fury wins 9 out of the 12 rounds , it doesnt matter if he got knocked down twice , he controles the whole fight and outboxed wilder which is why he shoulda won
eb thing is a lot of people remove the sport part from fighting sports. And as such seeing Wilder drop him has more weight for them than the amount of points Fury got.
eb it’s basically like a basketball team winning by 20 but in the last 2 minutes there best player gets dunked on. THEY STILL LOST BY 20 lolll but 90% of the ppl saying Wilder won are casual fans. 10% are slow.
A knockdown is a 10-8 in boxing. You still need to win each other rounds 10-9 to win the fight.
@nobcheesy your an idiot in boxing when someone us dropped they HAVE to be up on both feet within 10sec and the ref stopped counting at 9 to ask if tyson was okay lol they both got robbed
Simmer down there boii, boxing is not a fucking art form lol
I only really like Max on the boxing subject.
Fury won 9 rounds and Wilder won 3 rounds with 2 knockdowns. Fury won the fight easy.
i disagree, i mean fury had points on jabs but wilder was aggressive, people were too focused on watching fury fight but watch it again.. it was too close to call a winner..
@@victorreyes9762 i went into the fight wanting Wilder to win but i have no idea how he didnt lose the fight. It was frustrating watching how inaccurate Wilder was the entire fight. I scored the fight 8 rounds to 4 in favor of Tyson Fury. idk how the 2 knockdowns made up for the huge hole Deontay put himself in the entire fight
2 knockdows > his 6 rounds or whatever he boxed
@@deiondre0 i agree, with the k.o, idk how, but throughout the rounds if you watch wilder he didnt throw too many shots, but most of the ones he did connected in combo.. fury looked great but all he actually had was the jab in his favor.. he didnt really land combo's, which eventually wilder caught up with.
Victor Reyes exactly people greatly over exaggerate the work that Tyson Fury put in just because he outboxed him, most of the rounds he won was off of a couple of effective counter punches in each round.
All I can say is fury is very impressive from that long layoff and pull off that incredible performance with wilder
Which would have made him winning the match that much better. Not only did he have years off because of drug abuse but he was able to pull off a one sided win against “the most feared man in the heavyweight division”.
Don't forget he has crock in is system
It would have been incredible if he had knocked Wilder down or out after being knocked down twice. That would be incredible.
Yea a 15 second count will help ANY boxer. Wilder knocked him out then the ref helped him.
Infinite one sided is Bullshit getting knocked out twice proves he should have lost. He better send the referee some flowers
The draw means Wilder v Fury 2 will be next. But, the one guy made a good point about when Wilder fights AJ. Wilder has no technique and he fights very sloppy and wild. AJ like Fury can slip them punches and outbox Wilder. Now AJ doesn't box as well as Fury, in my opinion, but AJ definitely hits harder than Fury. So AJ v Wilder would be an interesting fight to me.
Fletchizzle86 aj can’t slip like fury for his life let him keep fighting tomato cans
Touche Wilder has the heart of a lion, what I mean is he can be down on the score card and still be a threat at any given round. Moral of the story is if you don't knock Wilder out he's probably going to knock you out at some point. Wilder vs a knock out artist like himself would be damn near suicide for him.
Fletchizzle86
His name is Deontay WILDER
How can you say wilder ain't got no technique When he's the wbc champ ??
wilder fury 2 is on the rematch clause if fury had won. Draw means wilder remains undefeated. which seems to be a big thing in america when considering PPV fights. Great fighters would have had defeats as they never pick their fights, unlike a certain self proclaimed great just because he is undefeated.... officially.
Fury won. Everyone knows. Wilder knows, his momma knows, the whole world knows.
😂
The judges don’t know
top comment 😂
No only Fury fanboys "know". It was a draw officially. To take a belt you need to win clearly and convince the judges. It cannot be said Fury won clearly. He got dropped twice, you can't have any claim for a belt after.
@@steevoka he won 10/9 rounds 🙈😂 dont have kids we dont need more stupid people
Wilder just wasn't landing punches at all.
but when he did he was backing Fury down.
@Jerome Truitt Which happened twice.
When you have someone that has pretty good/good boxing IQ.....that happens.....
Fury has excellent defense,agility and was making Wilder miss his punches.But even with that agility Wilder was able to hit him and setup two good punches and down he went twice.
.....Wilder landed enough punches to put Fury on his back!....twice
Like I've been telling people Wilder is overrated lacks basic boxing fundamentals and brings nothing to the ring but punching power. Even if you want to give him the 2 rounds he knocked Fury down and an additional round he still loses the fight clearly. Politics is ruining the competitive nature of boxing and those judges need to have their license revoked
Smh what ppl fail too realize wilder first love was I think football or basketball and something happen in life where he changed careers now with that said so too get where he's at is a tremendous accomplishment now I agree he need too work on fundamentals yes and maybe he got bored due too all his victories but I think this will wake wilder up just too get back too the basic
I love how when I say that I get called selling out cause I ain’t rooting for the black guy. Tyson Fury is the heavyweight BOXING technician.
It's hard to give a fight to a guy you just get put on his ass twice.
JAYLOVE47 but you telling people inaccurate information, wilder is in no way overrated, you are just a hater , do you understand that with that weight difference wilder was definitely not supposed to be able to be the aggressor there
I have never seen someone lay motionless on the ground for so long 13 seconds I counted there is no way the fight should have been called right then and there wilder needs a new coach if that dude learns how to have better foot work and movement watch out
fury got up like Michael B Jordan in Creed part one😂😂😂
😀😀😀😀😀😀😀
Spoiler alert!
Philippe H. Lmao you don’t make up rules and decide it’s 10-6. Somewhat understand the ko argument, but he came back and clearly was present. Cmon if you’re a true fan you can’t honestly say that fight was a draw. Round by round, fury won.
Philippe H. Maybe but this was boxing in a title match, so it doesn’t matter what ufc rulings are. Knockdowns are 10-8 rounds. There is no 10-6 rounds.
Oscar Bonavena Knocked Down The Great Joe Frazier Twice, Yet Joe Frazier Clearly Won That Fight! Fury Should Have Gotten The Win Over Wilder!!!
How in the hell did fury not win that fight
Money
Because the rounds were close oh yeah he got dropped then knocked out in the12 with gift count
Dude, you can’t get hit down two times and not even put down the champion at even once and expect to win, there’s no way you win on point especially u you got dropped two times
Nile McDonald no.. yes .. i think ir was boring fight and when you get knocked down you lose 2points and boxer gains 1point .. do the math thats 6 points thats 50/50
what boxing needs is a 13th round no even ending at 11 fury won and if it went to 13 its all wilder on KO ..
Umm he got dropped
"Tyson Fury can box" - Stephen A Smith
Funny
😂😂😂
Haha he is such a tard
norvinzor he outboxed wilder handily.
Tyson Fury CAN box... what have you seen that says he can’t?? 👀
Anthony Joshua was mislead by his management team. He has blown his opportunity. I don't care about Joshua vs Wilder or Fury. I want to see Wilder vs Fury II.
Bro.the winner of this fighter was Anthony Joshua
@The Jaw Breaker. ? Wilder is C side alright: C (Champion) and Fury is C (Challenger #1). Joshua is also C (Clusterfucked) who thought he was C (Creed). Joshua overestimated his value and now we want Wilder-Fury II.
Tom Smith Facts. Boxing ends up being more about matchup than who's the best. While many feel now like AJ would whip either of these guys, it's irrelevant. We now want to see the two more interesting fighters settle who has more heart in a rematch.
Tom Smith Joshua will knockout both of them
@@AhmedAhmed-ws3lb He couldn't even knockout Joseph Parker.
Britain has the two best heavy weight fighters on the planet
Foh!!!
@Grady Whitman he's a fan! he gloats like one aswell. it's a fucking mystery alright😂
Grady Whitman I literally just stated a fact about the countries the two best fighters were from...chill out, weird guy
And whos that??
Pauly P Tyson and AJ
I had it 114 - 112 for Fury. How he got up after that second knock down I'll never know. I have new found respect for the man
Fury said that the English judge had him losing six straight rounds!
Same exact score I had, wilder won 2,9,and 12
Jacob De La Cruz watch round 1 again without sound.
T- Rizzle better idea how bout u go look at the compubox
I had it 115 - 111 Fury. Even after Wilder floored Fury in the 12th, Fury got up and still scored punches on Wilders face. Fury won, hands down! A rematch is definitely in order. This time in Fury's back yard.
Wilder’s windmill punches could generate electricity for a whole village
Hahaha!
Ro 😂👌🏾
Lmao😂😂😂
Ha ha ha
Lol
Wilder has no technique, whoever has been coaching him all these years is a clown. Fury by far the better boxer
JD 1 we already know Wilder not a pure boxer has his own style and knocks good boxers out left and right like he did fury
JD 1 no.. yes .. i think ir was boring fight and when you get knocked down you lose 2points and boxer gains 1point .. do the math thats 6 points thats 50/50
what boxing needs is a 13th round no even ending at 11 fury won and if it went to 13 its all wilder on KO ..
Wilder doesn't box. He knocks out! BOMB SQUADDDDDD
Tyson got lucky in the 12th round.
Deon Phillips nah man his coach can tweak his style at least a little. Lennox taught him how to throw a jab, and he tries to do what he was taught but since that was a quick 5min thing he doesn’t remember it properly. It’s up to his trainer which I believe was a former Olympian to train him.
You don’t box a boxer lol, you’d end up looking like canelo in the Mayweather fight. I was just mad that he kept leading with his right when his jab was bloodying up Tyson’s nose
7 rounds for Wilder lol
Pressure really getting to these judges 🤦🏻♂️😂
WorldIsFilledB No one scored it that way. They gave him extra points for knockdowns which is what you’re supposed to do
WorldIsFilledB the money under the table u mean
Vegas is losing major events to other countries and foreign promoters.they are playing dirty.
Underestimating Fury’s punching power is foolish. While it’s not on the same level as Wilders, it’s still excellent. His game plan was to outbox Wilder. By Wilder’s own admission he was rushing his punches and trying to KO Fury. This is a mistake Fury did not make. Fury throws heavy bombs and clearly stunned Wilder. However Wilders punch speed is almost unheard of
Jbrune 24 anybody who thinks a 260lb pro boxer can’t hit hard is crazy
Getting Jacked but fury power punches is normal for his size
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Damn when Stephen a Smith says a white man win the fight over the brother you know he really won cus Stephen a Smith looked like it hurt him to admit that 🤔😨😥😂my man fury got up like the undertaker⚰️😵
Man, Stephen A Smith always hating on the Brothers ain't nothing new from this guy. Wtf you talking about?
Wolf Trey it isn’t him hating, it’s him not being biased like yourself.
Fury got crack in his system
Yep....
Melquan Green As a Black man I have to say, their are definitely racist black people
Wilder is one dimensional but very good at it. Has un-real power honestly beleive he is one of the hardest hitting heavyweight ever. Fury is just special.
0121_ R.K he’s near foremans level wilders right hand is pure devastation it’s unreal
you're an idiot.
Ever?? LMAO ever heard of mike tyson??
Biased Cowboys Fan he said “one of” meaning others like Tyson aren’t excluded lmao
Biased Cowboys Fan more power than Tyson
Everything this Man said is Fact.
Wilder won 2 rounds easy and 1 other round, add the points up
Referee who gave wilder is fixed,
And "how the hell did he get up".
Best interview in truth
And I'm a Wilder Fan and bet on him
Broooo- I appreciate your raw honesty. These fan boys are killing me.
Fury whipped Wilder
I couldn't agree more...
This draw is the definition of a daylight robbery!
And I know everyone is saying the word 'robbery', but that's because it's completly true.
Couldn't agree with Kellerman anymore. Props to Smith on the ref's call. Showtime needs Max Kellerman.
Its coming
Again agreed 100%, ye get rid of that ralo guy on showtime From bellator so annoying!
mmgmcnatt Really? I actually like Mauro Ranallo, he's commentated for Pride,K1, and Bellator. Though he can be over the top at times, it's part of his schtick. I wouldn't mind seeing a panel of Kellerman, Malignaggi, and Ranallo.
He use to calling boxing matches!
No problem for rematch but it cant be in the US it's to corrupt in its judging, needs to be in the UK.
chanhuor , none of the judges was from the USA.
Boxing is corrupt no matter where it is
@@BlackHippie2020 not the point.
In America they put judges that can be bought.
Yea in the UK because their judges aren't corrupt right.lol
@@denardtaylor7654 sure it's corrupted in UK too but not on the same.
I had 5 RD a Draw. Had Fury winning 114-113 now saying that if you get knocked down twice and on the road don’t be surprised you didn’t walk away with the belt. Everyone know how judges are in boxing!
So EVERYBODY who has half a boxing brain KNOWS WITHOUT DOUBT that Tyson Fury won. So why isn't the judge who scored the fight 111 to 115 being investigated??? A massive fine and struck off for life. A travesty and a disgrace to the sport.
The idiot gave wilder the first 6 rounds! The only explanation for that is they are either corrupt or completely incompetent. Either way, they should be banned from judging permanently.
Totally agree. It's an embarrassment to the sport. That judge should never judge again.
Facts Wilder sposed to loss his last fight aswell the ref cheated an he knocked they guy out smh
Ian Cohgneetoh : unfortunately it's the business aspect of it all... the heavy weight division is very small so what they have ask themselves is... how can we stretch this out and make more money.... by deciding a draw and having a rematch. Once the rematch is over, the big fight everyone really wants is the D Wilder vs Aj which you can almost guarantee a draw will be the outcome(saying it half jokingly). I can see why they do it but I don't agree with it because you loose boxing fans by turning them off from the division or the boxing sport all together, but the funny thing is its a catch a 22, they try to stretch out the fights for fans to pay and watch but end up loosing them same paying fans when they get turned of from the sport. The purity of the sport is long gone when big money got involved.
Exactly man I lost my bet too
Fury won easy, he got that one above all chin!
Rofl
FURY used excessive clinching and taunts. that doesn't earn points. all he did was drain the clock and never hurt wilder
Yeah the first few rounds were close, Just because fury acted like he won the rounds doesn't mean he did.
Fury is the best boxer at that weight, but If you match styles up, I think wilder did what he does best better than fury doing what he does best.
When you are a great technical boxer, you can't be hitting the floor twice is all i'm saying.
boxing isn't corrupt, but sometimes they do protect the money and a consistent knockout puncher like wilder is where the money is.
Agreed, late start and finished counting before he was up, I've never seen that before in boxing, maybe their is some rule i'm not aware of.
Thank you Stephen A you are absolutely right: Fury won the fight hand down.
Stephen A will say anything to please curtain ppls
joshua didnt knock out klitscho, he stopped him and fury beat wilder, he beat him by at least 8, 9 rds, fury won plain n simple!!!!!
fury got knocked out plain and simple and if it wasn't for that ref not doing his job correctly it would have been a KO.. given 15 seconds to a person to get up. Please!!
PHARAOH HLMC
This didn’t age well.
Also ref did his job right.
PHARAOH HLMC just stop mate. Face it. Fury was robbed and I’m glad he proved to the world how much better of a boxer he was than wilder
Stephen A Smith talking about boxing sounds like my grandpa talking about Snapstigram
😆 this comment deserves a thousand likes
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YOU JUDGE A FIGHT BY THE ROUNDS NOT BY THE FIGHT IN ITS WHOLE. 2 knockdowns in two different rounds is 2 rounds won. You could give him 2 other rounds with those 2 knockdown rounds a 10-8 he still loses. And I would argue he didn’t win any rounds outside those to knockdown rounds. Wilder lost big time this is why boxing is dead
if you give him 2 other rounds plus the 2 rounds he knocked him down then you have a draw at 6-6. its all point based. The knock downs are scored 10-8 x 2 so that's equivalent to 4 rounds plus the other 2 you are giving him equals 6 points or 6 rounds at 10-9....a draw is fair
@@kevinc.5351 except u cannot justify giving him 2 rounds outside of the rounds with the knockdowns. Not in my eyes anyway.
So you had it 116-110
he knocked fury on his ass
Iron Martian LEARN HOW TO SCORE A FIGHT YOU IDIOT!
Big Facts from both of them. Best heavyweight fight of the last decade.
it wasn't the best heavyweight fight at all. AJ vs Klitschko and Whyte vs Chisora amongst others have been more exciting to watch
Probably the last 2 decades my guy
Ricky Mason I wouldn’t call it the best of the last decade, but it’s one of..
@@MaseTMT More exciting maybe. But you can't call Joshua vs. Klitschko a better heavyweight bout than the one on Saturday. If anything, that fight showed how much better of a boxer Fury was than Joshua. The year before, when Klitschko was just dazed by a 10/10 boxing performance from Fury? That was a perfect boxing fight. Fastforward a year later and Joshua is just eating punches from Klitschko in the 5th and 6th. Keep in mind the difference of 12 years inbetween the two.
@@Xmasforever1 That's why I said best. I know people or AJ defenders would say him and Klitschko. Saturday was prime vs prime and I wouldn't be shocked if it finished in the top 2 for fight of the year.
3:29 she is like " get me as far away from that lunatic as possible " :D
Tyson Fury is a beast !
Tyson got robbed worse than GGG did in the first fight
F Meh ggg wasnt a rob he alot of air. Fury dismantled wilder a dude who cant box dont disrespect canelo like that
boris Odor naa canelo out worked ggg
No he got down that's deferent!
G wasn’t robbed. Judges don’t count reach measuring jabs idiot.
Fuck outta here....His record should have an L right now.
TYSON FURY WON CLEAN AND CLEAR BUT BAD JUDGES.
BBW Channel fire the judges
Another good video. We want that A4 trailer. Hurry up marvel, u won with the suspense, now it's just frustrating!
Correction. Sir, you mean Corrupt judges.
@@Jason-me1bs Absolutely correct ! Too easy to blame the Americans... they had nothing to do with the judging... 1 Canadian, 1 Mexican and 1 English judge. Ha ha ah were they bribed ? Different matter. Tbf seen a lot of comments and vids by American boxing fans and pundits who said they thought Tyson won. Disgraceful scoring.
Even the knockdown rounds could have been only 10-9 rounds rather than 10-8.
The only other time I seen a guy go down and look out and got up was when Ali got knocked down by Frazier in their first fight. The Heavyweight division is BACK. With interest.
These mics dont work? Wtf are they shouting about???
@I am the chaos WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING?
Welcome to my world.
no no no that's just called being American
@@jackcarter4946 Now lets be fair. Watch a tableful of Scousers with a few warm beers and kidney pies in them, carrying on about George Best. Makes these guys look like librarians.
@@caulfield618 well shit you got me
For about 3-4 seconds, I thought he was dead.. Great fight! Fury won. Period. WBC dragging that shit out for another Fight.. For that cashhhhh!
-BOMB SQUAD
Wilder got the KO and a draw. that was a horrible fight for Tyson.
He did exactly what he was supposed take 3-5 sec of recoup time and got up and won the rest of the round!
KODNAMEKILLA did the referee count right when fury went down
wilder won
He was down for like 14 seconds he was done
give me a break..... a knockdown is NOT AUTOMATICALLY a 2 point round for Wilder
If Wilder is getting his ass out boxed for 2 minutes and 30 seconds of a round....at that point it would be a 10-9 round for Fury.
A lucky haymaker for Wilder does not magically erase Furys 10-9 round he had going and make it a 10-8 round for Wilder.
That would be a THREE point swing and is absurd.
At best it would turn it into a 1 point round for Wilder.
but whatever....and listen to Max trying to justify it....he says the knockdowns were 2 point rounds for wilder so all he had to do is win 3 other rounds for a draw.....hell Wilder didnt win 3 rounds if you include the knockdown rounds ....much less 3 more on top of that lol
You are wrong . Nock downs are critical
No, knockdowns are important. Call it luck all you want but it’s 10-8
They ruined one of the greatest comebacks in history
It will be a movie later I bet...
Shifu Careaga yup. Called Fury. Showing how hes rising up undefeataed. Beats klitchsko in germany. Then goes through troubles. Controversial draw. Then beats wilder rematch to get the wbc. Then faces Joshua ... DAMN WHAT A MOVIE
Fury got knocked out ruclips.net/video/s7ObHNmlSaY/видео.html
80% if not more of the pros say fury should have won but yet we still have “RUclips boxing experts” crying in all the comments, get over yourselves people, if all the pros say he won you no longer get to disagree, have a nice day
Peterstanley216 who cares what the pros say all that matters was that judges say LOL and they said tie. Both men undefeated Round 2
Ya bro I agree Fury won but no one gives a shit what some ex pro or current pro says athletes have proven to be not so bright fairly often....
jeremiah greenwood I understand that, I don’t have as much of an issue with the draw as I do with all these idiots saying wilder should have won, that’s the point I was trying to make, we know fury was ahead on score and when it goes the distance that is literally the only thing that matters, wilder had 12 rounds to stop that from happening and he came close with those two bombs but that by no means won him the fight or even earned him a draw in the eyes of most professionals, but it is what it is, rematch will be awesome.
1 2 those pros who are technically good at what ever sport there is have more weight in there opinion then some bum like you on RUclips
Hamza Khan exactly go look at all of their responses
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5,000 SUBS WITHOUT ANY VIDEOS? That means a lot!!! I hope your day is going well too!!! 🤗🤗
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Fuck you
2:32 "Survive" the round? Heck, Fury got up and WON the 12th round!
This is one of the better if not top 5 discussions I've heard because Molly didn't say a word.
She tried to, but they just kept talking like she wasn't even there lol.
Even white boy has to shout. Fury won hands down.
You pale skins aren't white(pure)you are caucazoids(demons)time to get that sht straight.
@@jefpuckett5708 WE WUZ KANGZ AN SHEET
@@jefpuckett5708 No need for racism
@@jefpuckett5708 imagine being black! Ewwww
Stop being Racist !
You can't compare Holyfield with Wilder... You just can't. Holyfield fought the greats, Wilder has fought and lost against one great opponent....
Fact
He didn't compare them as a whole. Just one or two aspects.
Wilder has 0 losts, what you talking about
he did fight with bags, only 2 fights was real. @@mindboard8203
@@mindboard8203 your not very smart are you... Technically it was a draw yes. But the world knows who won the fight...
The end of that fight was amazing🙏
@Leon Barnett Lmao idiots. Go and watch the round timer at the bottom of the screen...then slap yourself in the face for being a dumbass. Fury got up less than 10 seconds after he fell, if you don't believe the referee then maybe you'll believe the digital timer ON THE ACTUAL SCREEN LMAO
@Rio Da Fire Guy Hit the deck at 2:25 and was up at 2:16 on the timer, that's 9 seconds just incase you can't count dumb dumb. The ref checking Fury was fit to continue afterwards is standard in boxing so he doesn't send a man back out to get brain damaged or killed, Wilder still had over 2 minutes left to finish the job and couldn't. Facts.
New boxing precedent: You can lose 9 of 12 rounds, knock down your opponent twice, and not lose.
Gilbert Farwynd you can’t call someone a casual and ignore boxing scoring at the same time.
Why can't he? He ignored how a sentence is formatted, lol.
@Gilbert Farwynd You're a neanderthal
Bruh In a fight if U got yo shit fucking dropped twice and rocked and your opponent was never hurt the entire fight
What did Fury do to win the 1st 3 rounds? Tell me please
Thank you Steven a smith one of the only Americans keeping it all the way 100 about this fight - Fury won!
@mike carson No.Four rounds for Wilder for 6 points.Still leaves 8 rounds for Fury for 8 points.
Stephen A don't know shit about boxing... You can not win a fight on your ass.. Not to mention a 13 count 12th round knock down.. Hats off to both fighters it was scored perfectly a draw.
The thing that's strange to me is that after the fight Wilder knew his mistakes almost immediately, he mentioned that he was swinging crazy and was not composed enough during the fight. Hopefully, he learns from this, Fury didn't even care that it was a draw lol seems like he's just happy he's back in the ring. But hearing what he went through I am happy for him too.
Why is that women even there 🤣
Ssssssshhhhhh...... Not all of us are gay... Stop complaining....
She’s like a garment.. there for our viewing pleasure 😫
For reallllll
Why did the woman you call mother, not spit you out?
The same reason that wilder won,kind of. Affirmative action. Women get jobs just because they are women, not because they are qualified. For any job a woman can do, a man can do better.
Remember when Ortiz rock and hurt wilder and he ref came in and gave wilder time how quick they forget
Well-said, ma man.
Hmm did Wilder lose consciousness
Na. But I did see Ortiz hit him with MULTIPLE punches and couldn't finish him.. So don't say stupid shit
No the fuck he didn’t Ortiz rocked wilder and wilder started clinching so he could survive the round which is what you’re supposed to do he used survival skills and never touched the canvas so what are you talking about lol?
@@myron314 He's talking about the extra time they gave him at the beginning of the round. There was no cut and the ref had the doctor take a look at Wilder, gave him a long time to recover before the start of the 8th round.
If kellerman only talked about politics with as much grace and intelligence as he does about boxing.
Wilder is an absolute warrior, took big hits but had the heart to shrug it off and stayed on his feet , dropped the other guy TWICE and yet people said he should have lost !!! Wilder is the real man here !!!
Fury was robbed. And the scary thing is he wasn't 100% and played with wilder.
Fury got put to sleep 😷🤒🤕
Michael Richardson if he got out to sleep how did he get up and win the rest of the fucking round?! 😂
Michael Richardson how u get put to sleep and wake up???? Tf r u smoking bra....STAY OFFF DA WEEEDUHHH
How the hell fury got robbed. If anything Wilder got robbed Tyson got a 13 count knock down.
@@chiefdonreed6353 exactly. Fury schooled wilder most the fight but he got put on his ass and couldn't get up before the 10 secound mark which is why the ref should've stopped the fight "hence" why wilder should've won, not fury.
ANTHONY JOSHUA SHOULD NOT GO THERE TO FIGHT UNLESS THE WORLD BOXING ASSOCIATION LOOK INTO THE JUDGES ISSUE.
Joshua doesn’t have to go there and would be crazy to. He has 3 belts to 1. He’s the champ. Wilder has to come to him.
Same crap happens in the uk fool. Boxing money is in the states
@@Cubey15 they just didn't want to give a 4th belt to Brit. So we could settle it between our guys.
DCMAN7116 only 1 was from the uk
@@aaronjohnson3463 UK regularly holds fights with 90k seats. What's the average in the USA 30k? Behave yourself. The only Money in the USA is Mayweather.
The winner of this fight was supposed to fight Anthony Joshua, but if it was a draw, that would be another rematch which means more money for boxing. Sports now a days make me sick and are all corrupt
I agree they want another match out of it. Hope Fury straight up knocks him out next time.
Adrian Calamia not true, they had a two way rematch clause meaning whoever lost could get a rematch. The draw opens up more of an opportunity for the Joshua fight than if either of them had won
Actually they had a mandatory rematch win or lose. But as it was a draw they might do the AJ fight before the rematch, if they even do one. Tyson Fury explained it in a Interview
Adrian Calamia I think wilder will fight AJ before the rematch. He’s confirmed the date. He’s not ducking, he wants this
Fury already said, while he wants a rematch, he gonna have some family time.... So the Wilder Joshua fight will probably be 1st then a rematch or Fury vs Joshua if he beats Wilder.....
That knockout came straight out of creed when he was out cold then all of the sudden woke up instantly
Fury didn't just survive the last round after the knockdown, he won the round after it (should have been a 10-9 Wilder round, not a 10-8)
It can't be 10-9, it's 10-8 for a knock down what ever else happens.
@@goplanit False, if the other boxer is extremely dominant in a round but gets knocked down he can still win the round on the cards, but the knockdown would give him the point deduction. This would make it a 9-9 round.
@@goplanit Nope. A lot of people had round 5 of Joshua/Klitschko 10-9 because Klitschko got up and whooped his ass for the rest of the round.
@@goplanit Yes it can, if a boxer gets knocked down but dominates the round, it can be scored 10-9 against them (See Pacquaio v Cotto). It's not used often as judging tends to be very lazy,
If you get knockdown but dominate the round you MIGHT get a 9-9 round
Im a wilder fan and i kn that fury won
дел no your not
@@qdigggs why u say this
ALL THIS FURY WON STUFF MANY ARE THROWING AS THOUGH IT WAS SO OUTRIGHT CLEAR IS NONESENSE ...!!WON CAN SAY THE SAME AS WILDER !! HE HAS MORE OF A CLAIM BUT A DRAW IS FAIR !!
Fury earned another fan dude because his movement was spectacular. That might be better than Muhammad Ali dude.
@@imperialkingdom4821 no dude, Fury clearly won the fight. It's not a debate at all.
Even if your trying to make the BEST case for Wilder you give him two 10-8 rounds.. and 2 10-9 rounds which IS STILL NOT A WIN.. Fury won
That would be a draw in that case
Fury shouldn’t have eaten the canvas twice. The defending champ always gets the leg up... and if that champ puts you down not once but twice?! Yeh it’s a tie go cry somewhere else
Alejandro Rochin(One of the three judges) scored the fight 115 - 111 to wilder. This means even if wilder didnt knock fury out in the 9th and 12th rounds and instead Alejandro gave both those rounds to fury, on his scorecard it would of been a draw. That really puts into perspective how wrong and delusional Alejandro is. How could you possibly score that fight a draw if wilder hadnt knocked fury out in the 9th and 12th, it would be a clear and undeniable win for fury, yet in theory that judge would of scored it as a draw. Alejandro Rochin needs to be sacked and never be aloud to go anywhere near boxing the rest of his life.
@@taylorheckers8327 No it wouldn't. 8 rounds to Tyson. 6 to Wilder (2×10-9 , 2x10-8).
@@craig2679 how could tyson have one 8 rounds. And fury 6?
one of the best fights i ever seen ... great fight
FURY GOT KNOCKED OUT GOT BACK UP AND STILL SCHOOLED WILDER ! THE MAN DIDNT KNOW WHERE HE WAS AND STILL WHOOPED WILDERS ASS !
Facts
as he has said his blood boxes!
Knocked down not knocked out
Dennis Seaman You better go back and watch Fury was clearly OUT but not for the count 😎
Showtime needs to pick up Max Kellerman
Who should he replace? I like all the guys there at the moment.
Kellerman sucks!
Umm why would he go there and make less?
@@choose1909 Cause he sucks.
Choose1 G he was previously employed by HBO but now they are done with boxing. Max is the most knowledgeable boxing analyst hands down
Tyson fury won the fight, this isn’t debatable anymore 115-111.
Abi i i 115-111? I had 117-111 lmfao u being to nice
Ballin Too 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Abi i i lmfao real shit tho man besides those 2 knockouts Tyson fury was literally toying wit wilder lmfaoo ctfu lls
Ballin Too do you know what a knockOUT is?
Actually it was a draw. That isn't debatable.
“Forget technique for a second” Kellerman is heartless😂😂😂
Agreed, Tyson Fury clearly won that fight.
Didn't Kellerman just say he can live with the draw decision?
+im a terrorist
Damn right.👍
@@ohlawd3699 but then I realized I was getting offended by some socially awkward no life fat white boi who seems to obsessed with black people, so honestly I could care less now
+im a terrorist
Good for you. 😊👍
im a terrorist boy* like its the same amount of letters pal your not saving yourself anytime spelling it boi lmao
I've maintained for some time now that Wilder is not a boxer, he's just a slugger. Long arms and powerful. Fury would definitely win the rematch, barring some miraculous leap in skill by Wilder.
Wilder being a below average boxer with a lot of power in his right is common knowledge.. don’t pipe yaself too much here
@@kennyj1437 why are you being unnecessarily aggressive?
No, just another knockdown like the one in the 12th. Next time Fury may not survive it.
We know Deontay can knock Fury down. Can Fury knock down Wilder? Was Fury really boxing or surviving? Looks like he was trying to not get "caught" the whole night. Yeah he outboxed a slugger as he should have. But his boxing was only effective to the point of not being hit. Fury's offense given his technical advantages was disappointing. Fury should have been walking down Deontay given that weight advantage.
@@painhousing big facts