Remember Jack Miller when he forgot the layout in Catalonia? That's give me chill if that thing happend again to someone and they go straight cutting those chicane and hit other riders at 300+ km/h Speed.
Actually that's a good point... At first I wanted to say, that that's not possible, because they Wer building some kind of barricade... But then, the bikes would simply rush into that, if brake failure like vinales at turn 1 happens.
is there a reason they dont remove the straight? is F1 use that straight or what? still think the barrier on first left turn is too close, hope nothing bad happen on the future...
Ich freu mich schon wie ein Schnitzel. 😅 Bin dieses Jahr zum ersten mal live bei der Moto GP und hab auch noch Plätze direkt bei der neuen Schikane. 🙏🤩
When the rear rider forgets or there is a brake problem, so they are forced to go straight / use the old layout, the front riders who are driving past the new layout please be careful of getting hit by a "Bull" :v
They should put something on the straight line from old layout on that chicane corner opening so if there's any brake problem rider won't go straight like crazy. Meanwhile, I thought the straight distance from T1 to that new chicane is not that long compared to start/finish straight line so rider won't go at max speed.
@@kishoresadagopan9630 Right, the gap will be smaller. But on the paper, looks like the V4s will still be a bit stronger tho. The track still have 2 long straights. The Chicane itself looks like a slow one, so the V4s will still have better acceleration out of it.
They altered the bend and everyone would be pissed because that's one of the unique features of the track. This way they can keep the bend and give safer alternatives for motorcycle racing. Win-win.
Zum glück wird die nicht im gt oder formelsport verwendet wäre ja zu schade um die nicht existente kurve 2 an der stelle die niemand so richtig als kurve ansieht
Ob es dadurch sicherer wird? Naja.. Bin da skeptisch. Wenn jemand auf die Schikane zufährt und den Bremspunkt verpasst, fährt er - weil hinter der nach links abbiegenden Geraden ja kaum Auslaufzone ist - weiter dem alten Streckenverlauf folgend gerade aus und kollidiert volle Kanne mit denen, die bereits in die neue Schikane eingebogen sind... Naja man wird sehen..
Not even than the turn 2 is no turn in a formula car its just a bit steering and chicanes make not everything better barcelona has proove it the worst chicane in the wole f1 calender
Its cool but we dont know yet untiil we see the actual sistem ... And i think its alittle bit weird when you have clear stright line but theres "uncommon chicane"
Bin gerade vom Ring zurück (Beitrag folgt). Leider durften wir die Münster-Schikane nicht fahren. Laut Aussage von div. Leuten am Ring soll diese nur für die MotoGP geöffnet werden, alle anderen fahren wie anhin die Kurve 2 direkt an.
They are much slower than after the long straight thats why it's less dangerous. Also the reason why so many bikes lost controll on the long straight was because of the high speeds as they easily unsettle than. So this chicane does i think help. But of course we will see at the next race how effective it is
Diese neue Schikane habe ich schon letztes Jahr versucht nachzubauen. Hier das Ergebnis : ruclips.net/video/jF6LFjeBYzw/видео.html Basis: das gute alte GTL von 2005 ?
I hate this corner already, I'm ok with adding chicane in this place for safety, but why it looks it was done by Hermanna Tilke? Oh wait, because it was made by him! The most boring track designer who destroyed so many legendary circuits. Two identical turns, (only mirrored) with the smallest possible radius! This chicane has nothing to do with the characteristics of Red Bull Ring. They should make the second corner faster, with bigger radius, like the Nürburgring chicane on Magny Cours for example.
It looks so good. Unfortunately it's not being used by F1 but that helicopter pass will still look awesome and also maybe it finds its way into the F1 2022 game. Glad to be Austrian and have such a nice national GP track. =) I was there once during the winter months of 2020 while I was stationed at the Zeltweg Airbase in my military service time. Absolutely love this track.
F1 und die rahmenserien sind viel zu schnelm für die schikane und in autos ist kurve 2 eigentlich keine kurve frag doch mal bei f1 fahrern für die hat spielberg nur 7 kurven die schikane ist nur bei der motogp notwendig und die f1 soll ja die finger von lassen
Looks risky to me, not barricade or so, if some or another rider even misses break point, have break failures or just missed the new layout the will straight up crash into the riders infront of them who take the chicane like it should. Dangerous imo but we will see
Kann jemand erklären warum hier eine der coolsten Passagen im ganzen MotoGP Zirkus derat entwertet werden musste? Man glaubt mittlerweile bei jeder Sportart aufgrund eines gröberen Unfalles, jeweils unverhältnismässig eingreifen zu müssen. Die Installation einer dauerhaften Barriere vor Kurve 2 wie im letzten Jahr 2021, hätte vollauf genügt. Sehr Schade🤔
Und jetzt passieren eventuell noch mehr unfälle und in 2 jahren wird diese nicht mehr genutzt 😂😂 du viele Auffahrunfälle und oder sie bekommen die kurve nicht.
Juhu endlich mal einer der mich versteht wegen jedem Mist wird was umgebaut wenn es denn Fahrern zu gefährlich ist sollen sie aufhören gibt genug die gerne fahren würden auch wenn es gefährlich ist 😐
So bad for the show…people like to see speed…motor races are About speed and over takes…I understand it maybe be more safe but for the show it will be bad…
Then the track would be even more ruined because one of the unique features of the track are being altered. This way, the kink can remain, and there's safer alternative for 2 wheelers..
@@danishsawant7154 No the comment reply say there is "3" Comments (Now become 4) but it's only show ur coment and mine that's mean there is other comment that missing and probably filtered.
"Was ist denn so das Schwerste an den Arbeiten für so eine Schikane?" "Schneeschippen..."
"We have dangerous corner"
Dorna: Add chicane
You spot on. Another track ruined.
For F1 they still used a straight line
F1 1994 moment
The race was great
Na da freu ich mich doch auf die ersten Runden auf dem neuen Ring. Bin gespannt wie die Schikane sich mit dem Motorrad fahren lässt. 🏍
Remember Jack Miller when he forgot the layout in Catalonia?
That's give me chill if that thing happend again to someone and they go straight cutting those chicane and hit other riders at 300+ km/h Speed.
no one is that stoopid
I am more worried about breaks failing. They would go straight into the side of others.
Actually that's a good point... At first I wanted to say, that that's not possible, because they Wer building some kind of barricade... But then, the bikes would simply rush into that, if brake failure like vinales at turn 1 happens.
I used to be able to find the video evidence of that Jack Miller stuff but now i can't. Can anyone link it?
is there a reason they dont remove the straight? is F1 use that straight or what?
still think the barrier on first left turn is too close, hope nothing bad happen on the future...
Looks smart. Left side barrier seems very close
As it's implemented on mid way of the straight, the top speed before braking shouldn't be too high so I guess it's pretty safe
Ich freu mich schon wie ein Schnitzel. 😅 Bin dieses Jahr zum ersten mal live bei der Moto GP und hab auch noch Plätze direkt bei der neuen Schikane. 🙏🤩
Und wie hast dus gefunden? War auch live dabei und ich fands der Hammer 🙈
@@l.v.895 Ja ich auch. Ebenfalls die ganze Atmosphäre auch Abseits der Strecke. Genau wie bei der Formel 1. 👌😄
@@Chironimo100 ja total, die Stimmung war mega 😁
Schikanederstraße auch in Regensburg.
When the rear rider forgets or there is a brake problem, so they are forced to go straight / use the old layout, the front riders who are driving past the new layout please be careful of getting hit by a "Bull" :v
They should put something on the straight line from old layout on that chicane corner opening so if there's any brake problem rider won't go straight like crazy. Meanwhile, I thought the straight distance from T1 to that new chicane is not that long compared to start/finish straight line so rider won't go at max speed.
Quatraro be like: awww I love this layout 😍😍😍
I don't think so, it's still a type of a stop and go corner, he will like something more flowing like turn 6, 7, and 8 of the old layout
@@Ergeka this circuit doesn't bring V4's top end, so it is favorable for Yamaha
@@kishoresadagopan9630 Right, the gap will be smaller. But on the paper, looks like the V4s will still be a bit stronger tho. The track still have 2 long straights. The Chicane itself looks like a slow one, so the V4s will still have better acceleration out of it.
@@kishoresadagopan9630peco dominated at this layout for 2 in a row... yamaha is no where to be found at this moment even honda, their days are over.
👏👏. Marvelous !!
was this on the straight leading to the corner where Rossi was nearly wiped out
Exactly
@@captainaustria95 bit drastic considering how rare those crashes happen, hope they don't start adding chicanes to other tracks
Yes
so instead of making the straight a straight, they added a chicane. Nice one.
They altered the bend and everyone would be pissed because that's one of the unique features of the track.
This way they can keep the bend and give safer alternatives for motorcycle racing. Win-win.
Zum glück wird die nicht im gt oder formelsport verwendet wäre ja zu schade um die nicht existente kurve 2 an der stelle die niemand so richtig als kurve ansieht
Thank you, as a motogp fan. ❤❤❤ The riders need this
Why? Let's get rid if all fast sections of track. Infact why not put a limiter on the bike so it can only do 30mph. Is that OK?
@@Barts027 Nobody is saying that. As well, I don't make those type of decisions so asking me is pointless. But I support this change.
@@ShipMonster 30mph max speed. Chicanes on every section that has had an accident. Thats what you want 😂👍
@@Barts027 lol at that point it would be F1.
Schaut echt cool mal schauen ob es in echt auch so beeindruckend aussieht am 09.04 bin ich beim Histo Cup dabei
Geile Nummer, viel Spaß!
1:01 nice CVT💪🔥
wird die jetzt auch bei allen Motorrad Trackdays verwendet oder ist das die Entscheidung des Veranstalters?
GENIUS.
RedBull Ring Magic place👍
Weiss jemand mit welcher camara aufgenommen wurde?
Bzw. Obs einzelbilder oder ein Film war?
So, it add chicane for MotoGP version
Hello I'm from the future.. Quartararo will overtake miller here to secure 2nd podium.. What a race!!
Trek nya bagus,balapan berjalan seru
Zarco chicane
Nice name
Nice name (2)
🤣
Indonesia ❤️
Ob es dadurch sicherer wird? Naja.. Bin da skeptisch. Wenn jemand auf die Schikane zufährt und den Bremspunkt verpasst, fährt er - weil hinter der nach links abbiegenden Geraden ja kaum Auslaufzone ist - weiter dem alten Streckenverlauf folgend gerade aus und kollidiert volle Kanne mit denen, die bereits in die neue Schikane eingebogen sind... Naja man wird sehen..
Ducati: ah shit
Mantap
I wonder if f1 raced in red bull ring with this chicane?
I heard F1 not using that chicane
@@MeongOyenBar2 if there's a fatal crash i mean in f1
Not even than the turn 2 is no turn in a formula car its just a bit steering and chicanes make not everything better barcelona has proove it the worst chicane in the wole f1 calender
Its cool but we dont know yet untiil we see the actual sistem ... And i think its alittle bit weird when you have clear stright line but theres "uncommon chicane"
Yes
#RedBullRing has a #chicane at turn 2.
If you must do a chicane and have only a lineal and 2circles ....😭😭😭😭 Can this be Designer more uninspired ??!
Bin gerade vom Ring zurück (Beitrag folgt). Leider durften wir die Münster-Schikane nicht fahren. Laut Aussage von div. Leuten am Ring soll diese nur für die MotoGP geöffnet werden, alle anderen fahren wie anhin die Kurve 2 direkt an.
The best
What if someone falls on the straight while bike are crossing the chicane? This is stupid and more dangerous!!
Same thought
It will turn out to be a motorcycle weekend at the Red Bull Ring track. Is it dangerous for drivers?
They are much slower than after the long straight thats why it's less dangerous. Also the reason why so many bikes lost controll on the long straight was because of the high speeds as they easily unsettle than. So this chicane does i think help. But of course we will see at the next race how effective it is
@@TRAVELLERGEMBEL bruh
Idk maybe they gonna put bunch of tires in Between those chicane?
Top speed gain while climbing is one of the most badass manuver MotoGP riders does, it seems ruin it... but we'll see on the actual race ✌🏼😁
Perché 1 chicane nella zona del 2 drs
sudah bagus sircuit nya dulu..setelah di ubah sircuit berantakan.
Beautiful
ini buat tim #mandalika
aspal itu di buatnya terakhir jadi bagus. ini aspal duluan ya jadi kotor saat balapan
Itu di AUSTRIA aspal ulang + nambah tikungan lagi bang, bukan aspal yang awal :)
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Diese neue Schikane habe ich schon letztes Jahr versucht nachzubauen. Hier das Ergebnis :
ruclips.net/video/jF6LFjeBYzw/видео.html
Basis: das gute alte GTL von 2005 ?
Only MotoGP or F1 too
I hate this corner already, I'm ok with adding chicane in this place for safety, but why it looks it was done by Hermanna Tilke? Oh wait, because it was made by him! The most boring track designer who destroyed so many legendary circuits. Two identical turns, (only mirrored) with the smallest possible radius! This chicane has nothing to do with the characteristics of Red Bull Ring. They should make the second corner faster, with bigger radius, like the Nürburgring chicane on Magny Cours for example.
It looks so good. Unfortunately it's not being used by F1 but that helicopter pass will still look awesome and also maybe it finds its way into the F1 2022 game.
Glad to be Austrian and have such a nice national GP track. =)
I was there once during the winter months of 2020 while I was stationed at the Zeltweg Airbase in my military service time. Absolutely love this track.
F1 und die rahmenserien sind viel zu schnelm für die schikane und in autos ist kurve 2 eigentlich keine kurve frag doch mal bei f1 fahrern für die hat spielberg nur 7 kurven die schikane ist nur bei der motogp notwendig und die f1 soll ja die finger von lassen
Looks so good? It horrendous. Removed a great section of circuit.
@@TheRawhead66 ohhh man🤦🏻♂️ das war mir schon klar😂
@@Barts027 I like how it looks with the Austrian flag integrated, also they didn't remove anything from the track, what do you mean?
@@leroi804 For MotoGP it removed a nice overtaking opportunity.
The only good straight for overtaking is gone now
It's only for motorbikes, and not for 4-wheelers.
What do you mean by "Gone"...?
It's still there...!
Of course its still there but not used anymore by MotoGP...
But I see the safety reason
Looks risky to me, not barricade or so, if some or another rider even misses break point, have break failures or just missed the new layout the will straight up crash into the riders infront of them who take the chicane like it should. Dangerous imo but we will see
Ciri khas warga negara eropa.. TIDAK PADAT KARYA.. Karena padat karya hanya milik indonesia..
🇵🇹🇵🇹🇵🇹
Kann jemand erklären warum hier eine der coolsten Passagen im ganzen MotoGP Zirkus derat entwertet werden musste? Man glaubt mittlerweile bei jeder Sportart aufgrund eines gröberen Unfalles, jeweils unverhältnismässig eingreifen zu müssen. Die Installation einer dauerhaften Barriere vor Kurve 2 wie im letzten Jahr 2021, hätte vollauf genügt. Sehr Schade🤔
Und jetzt passieren eventuell noch mehr unfälle und in 2 jahren wird diese nicht mehr genutzt 😂😂 du viele Auffahrunfälle und oder sie bekommen die kurve nicht.
Juhu endlich mal einer der mich versteht wegen jedem Mist wird was umgebaut wenn es denn Fahrern zu gefährlich ist sollen sie aufhören gibt genug die gerne fahren würden auch wenn es gefährlich ist 😐
Und die nächste Strecke ruiniert.
So bad for the show…people like to see speed…motor races are About speed and over takes…I understand it maybe be more safe but for the show it will be bad…
Trust me, you don't want to watch racers die for your entertainment!
@@wendigockel that’s why I’ve said that I understand for safety is good but not for the show…
I think it would be better if the straight is used for Car racing like or GT series
And The chicane for F1 and MotoGP
@@noobscoopsies1100 naaah not for F1
Horrendous design. Ruins the circuit.
Another racetrack destroyed!
Whatever they build ducati will be first
I think the new track is more dangerous if the driver forgets to pass the old track. there could be an accident
You could have moved that kink a bit to the left, instead you had to add a stupid chicane. Track ruined
Then the track would be even more ruined because one of the unique features of the track are being altered.
This way, the kink can remain, and there's safer alternative for 2 wheelers..
Another track ruined. Horrendous.
Mate, remember what happened MotoGP? Two Rider almost lost their life.
@@5yNT4XProcyon motorsport is dangerous.
@@Barts027 So, Why are you here? Safety first mate.
@@5yNT4XProcyon Yes but you can make circuits safe and fast.
@@Barts027 no, you dont
Shite.
I am pretty shure we gonna se plenty of riders that knew the track before falling.
And thats not gonna be funny.
Spielberg has just died for me.
Come on Karen, don't be over dramatic.
This track is too dangerous for the moto. Stop moto race
Chicane 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢
Mandalika
Norak
I wonder what is the comment above me looks like it's been filtered because using bad words?
@@noobscoopsies1100 mandalika is the name of the Indonesian circuit
@@danishsawant7154 No the comment reply say there is "3" Comments (Now become 4) but it's only show ur coment and mine that's mean there is other comment that missing and probably filtered.
@@noobscoopsies1100 ohhh aight 😭
Lame