Respect for giving the other installer the benefit there! Dead easy to rip into other people’s work! We can all make mistakes. If it is shoddy and he keeps doing it then it all changes! Can’t be leaving dangerous work!
Good video mate, would always recommend holding the basked when taking out the centre flush on the toilet as it can spin and then start leaking from under the cistern
another great video, well done mate, one thing I learnt many years ago, its so easy to criticise, anyone can do it, if you look hard enough you can always pick fault in someone elses work, like you, I prefer not to criticise, people do things for a reason and I think most people are doing it for the right reason.
Yeah mate always give someone benefit of the doubt, easy to criticise but don’t know what was happening that day with them, hopefully it’s a one off on there installs 👍
Had the cage come loose too as it was put in loose and it was letting bye and ran constant ,also had the too tight and the china was out of shape in the base and bulled the cage out of shape and it kept letting bye.
Ow bin ya mate. Great content again....the boiler....sorry, no excuse for not sealing the flue, just laziness. We all have bad days yes....but to not seal the flue, not good enough. Then the condensate...silicon? Mmmmmm nahh. Good chance the leak was showing when they were commissioning too. But at least you sorted it now buddy. Good work again, look forward to the next one.
Thanks mate. Yeah it wasn’t just 1 fault was it, 3/4 is sign of sloppy work, hopefully it’s a one off but too many of them and the original installer will get caught out
Nice ! Only found out the other day screwfix sell ready mix cement in silicon size tubes😮 that fit in your silicon gun? Saw it on another channel... I dont miss the heating side at ALL......
Not sure id have been brave enough to risk the service valve on that wirquin toilet. No way to replace it if it weeps set right into tiles on the floor. 😬 Few good jobs as always. 👌
Agree we all get a bad run out of materials ie sand & Cement Trying complete the job in one day can’t go back next day because got another booked in, but I can’t let bad workmanship on a blr pass pop round one evening or a Saturday and seal the flue outside it’s only costing you time after all you’ve been paid to complete the job plus you can sleep at night knowing you left no gas safety defects.
Used some more today, too product 👍 yeah it wasn’t just one thing missed it was a few things so original installer needs to slow down and take a step back
I thought on a worchester that because it had a screw fixing u didnt need to seal the flue, because on the older one it ment u could get fge flue out to replaced the expansion vessel
Loving the channel mate, nice to see an honest engineer doing a solid days work. As said, it's so easy to slag off the previous workman but it's a low blow most of the time, I prefer to try and maintain professionalism unless it's safety related. In my experience roofers are the worst trades to follow re riddor situations! Out of interest, are you ex BG? I'm a BG engineer and a lot of your work practices seem very in line with how I work! Just curious
I am mate, easy to spot as we are basically trained the same even thou we are all over country! Best 7 years of my career there…the strikes and fire and rehire killed it for me, lost the love for the place
Once the work has been carried on the Worcester boiler, do they continue their warranty or once it has failed the installation guidance Bosch void the boiler from guarantee?
Warranty will continue as long as all defects have been put right, if Worcester come back out and work hasn’t been carried out they wouldn’t honour warranty, we done them a report with photos they could send to Worcester 👍
Does the outside need sand and cement, if its got a rubber seal fitted? What if your not sealing to brickwork, wooden or plastic cladding for instance. Also if you use a high level flue kit all the work is done from the inside, Im only putting these questions out there 👍
It’s a great question mate especially for working at heights as like you said you can fit them Worcester’s from high level…I would think high level inside properly sealed minimum? Il have to check with that one
Put it this way, if it’s at high level then it will never get checked. Worcester for instance say that the seal alone is fine but gas safe want both sides sealed. The inside is sealed to stop products of combustion entering inside if the flue was to leak inside the hole it passes through, corrosion etc. the outside is to stop products of combustion being sucked back into the hole the flue passes through so the rubber seal if sufficient in doing that job. That’s my take as a gas man.
Didn't notice you use the isolation valves on the magnetic cleaner. If so, wise choice. Went to close mine to clean it and they started to leak from the tap seal 😱. Opened them again and they resealed when the hot water started to flow 😌. I guess I have to replace it. Didn't know the boiler has isolators. Can I can use them to avoid draining down? Or are they flakey too?
Isolation on boilers rule of thumb don’t touch, only certain boilers them ok to touch, normally a Worcester your ok, unless it’s a really old CDI them they will leak just by looking at them
Great upload again Luke... Sorry but not sealing the flue either inside or out is a big red flag as an engineer who doesn't care... Either that or he had an apprentice who said he had sealed the flue when asked... Either way its a big risk if your putting your signature to the installation.
Basic checks flue sealed and working pressure, plus silicone in condensate is just lazy by looks of it…they am jobs you would give an apprentice as well but you always check there work just to be sure so sloppy work by looks of it 👍
@@bluebulldog_uk Come across stupid stuff like that all the time. Commonly find brand new installs with condi pumps wired on the switch, honestly feel bad for the guys doing it as they're clearly not prepared to be doing the work they're doing and probably won't improve the way they're doing it. They're only going to shoot themselves in the foot in the long run.
Probably ran out of sundries, sand, cement and solvent weld glue. Micro leaks are a pita, everyone has them from time to time. I know on installs, I call the team and ask how they doing and if they need anything. If the installation guy has a service contract why not rectify these faults on a service. A bit slack really.
Yeah it’s had 2 services since it was installed so had 2 chances to sort install defects out, could of been a bad day but could be like that’s everyday which would be worrying
As for that Worcester. Some dipsticks should be banned for life from any plumbing work. I've spent two Saturdays installing 6 (sic!) pumps in manifold cabinets that were two sizes to small, because some imbecile wanted to save some pennies. Not to mention that the same imbecile was brave enough to assume that the internal pump of a gas heater will suffice for 3-storey house with floor heating and radiators. I did two houses, each one of them opulently finished and decorated, so it was a very stressful job. And worst of all I know that installing 3-zone hydraulic separator would be the best solution, but piping is laid so badly there no physical way to do it without ruining the interiors. I wish people would clean their toilets before our arrival. Anyway, you did a great job again.
Sounds like you’ve had a nightmare job there mate! It isn’t nice when you have to go round fixing other peoples mistakes because all the way through the job you have it in the back of your head “why wasn’t this done correctly first time” annoying…least you sorted it mate 🙌👍 thanks for support mate appreciated
How often are they actually suppose to inspect your work cause I’ve only ever had one in 2 years I thought it would be a lot more to be honest and random checks
Respect for giving the other installer the benefit there! Dead easy to rip into other people’s work! We can all make mistakes. If it is shoddy and he keeps doing it then it all changes! Can’t be leaving dangerous work!
Thanks mate, never know what’s going on in someone’s life but hope it was a one off for him!
Great and honest plumbing channel 👍
Thanks mate 👍
Yes i see that washer
It’s an honest man who admits his mistakes. I wish you liv3d near me fella.
I find it hilarious that they were proud enough of that installation to put a sticker with their brand on it.
👍 Nice one.
Thanks mate 👍
Agree with last comment real world straight forward guy, and i am learning , win win
Thanks mate 🙌👍
The filter- weve all had shit jobs where you struggle for space and try to keep it tight, but no excuse for not sealing the flue
Yeah the filter I can forgive, condensate and flue, just poor work
Good video mate, would always recommend holding the basked when taking out the centre flush on the toilet as it can spin and then start leaking from under the cistern
Thanks mate 👍
Love my nerrad tapex kit....
Great bit of kit 🙌👍
Can’t determine when a leak happens mate. BUT flue and condense……? Filter position???
Yeah leaks can happen anytime but your right filter, flue, condensate not good
Iv now converted to Fischer cement in a tube . Forget knocking up in a bucket anymore and making a right mess
i use KOS Fire cement. either comes in a tub or a silicone tube
I’ve seen people use it so will be giving it a try 👍
Great content Luke. When sealing flues I often use express cement in those silicone tubes I find it makes less mess 👍🏼
Just got myself some today 👍
great job!
Thanks 👍👍
another great video, well done mate, one thing I learnt many years ago, its so easy to criticise, anyone can do it, if you look hard enough you can always pick fault in someone elses work, like you, I prefer not to criticise, people do things for a reason and I think most people are doing it for the right reason.
Yeah mate always give someone benefit of the doubt, easy to criticise but don’t know what was happening that day with them, hopefully it’s a one off on there installs 👍
Great Vid mate
Thanks mate 👍
When removing the vale take your time push down and hold square or you may break the lugs that hold it in
Thanks mate, ain’t snapped one yet but never say never…I am very heavy handed to be honest as well 😅
I did it once lol
Had the cage come loose too as it was put in loose and it was letting bye and ran constant ,also had the too tight and the china was out of shape in the base and bulled the cage out of shape and it kept letting bye.
Nice mix of jobs there pal 👍🏻
Thanks mate 🙌👍
Ow bin ya mate. Great content again....the boiler....sorry, no excuse for not sealing the flue, just laziness. We all have bad days yes....but to not seal the flue, not good enough. Then the condensate...silicon? Mmmmmm nahh. Good chance the leak was showing when they were commissioning too. But at least you sorted it now buddy. Good work again, look forward to the next one.
Thanks mate. Yeah it wasn’t just 1 fault was it, 3/4 is sign of sloppy work, hopefully it’s a one off but too many of them and the original installer will get caught out
Nice ! Only found out the other day screwfix sell ready mix cement in silicon size tubes😮 that fit in your silicon gun? Saw it on another channel... I dont miss the heating side at ALL......
Saw some in city plumbing other day so for some on van ready for next time I need it 👍👍
Not sure id have been brave enough to risk the service valve on that wirquin toilet. No way to replace it if it weeps set right into tiles on the floor. 😬
Few good jobs as always. 👌
I like to live dangerously 😂😂👍👍 thanks mate 👊
Great video as always 👍🏻
Thanks mate 👍
Agree we all get a bad run out of materials ie sand & Cement Trying complete the job in one day can’t go back next day because got another booked in, but I can’t let bad workmanship on a blr pass pop round one evening or a Saturday and seal the flue outside it’s only costing you time after all you’ve been paid to complete the job plus you can sleep at night knowing you left no gas safety defects.
Great video pal, got myself some of those bullfixs last week brilliant they are.
Poor workmanship that not sealing the flue no excuses in my eyes.
Used some more today, too product 👍 yeah it wasn’t just one thing missed it was a few things so original installer needs to slow down and take a step back
@@bluebulldog_uk and he does pal, yh brilliant fixings I only came across them from you watching you guys mate.
Now days just job and knock cause they always in a rush, sometimes much easier to sort yourself.
Yeah I’m sure some installers try and beat there record for how quick they can sling a boiler sometimes 😅
I thought on a worchester that because it had a screw fixing u didnt need to seal the flue, because on the older one it ment u could get fge flue out to replaced the expansion vessel
Always known outside minimum has to be sealed on flue to be honest
Would love to know peoples opinions on the Worcester, thanks everyone 👊👍
Taps at the back of the bath on an external wall any tricks to get them off to get in and out quicker no access from either side😭😭
Nightmare mate, I’ve gone through wall before but from a bedroom, bath out or wall out sometimes unfortunately 😅
Mate that’s just bad workmanship on that Worcester, and try the soudal express cement quick and easy for sealing flues,Top video mate. Thanks
Will definitely have to give it a try seen people use it and looks sound to be fair 👍
For future reference the flush washer you fitted in the 1st part of the video was fitted upside down.
Great video though.
Should have watched further ha
Yes mate when I put it in was still same so i swapped it round…always find if someone watches a mistake they don’t make same one 👍
Loving the channel mate, nice to see an honest engineer doing a solid days work. As said, it's so easy to slag off the previous workman but it's a low blow most of the time, I prefer to try and maintain professionalism unless it's safety related. In my experience roofers are the worst trades to follow re riddor situations!
Out of interest, are you ex BG?
I'm a BG engineer and a lot of your work practices seem very in line with how I work! Just curious
I am mate, easy to spot as we are basically trained the same even thou we are all over country! Best 7 years of my career there…the strikes and fire and rehire killed it for me, lost the love for the place
@bluebulldog_uk yeah fire and rehire was a funny old time! I striked all the way but ended up staying. It's good to see you doing well pal
Once the work has been carried on the Worcester boiler, do they continue their warranty or once it has failed the installation guidance Bosch void the boiler from guarantee?
Warranty will continue as long as all defects have been put right, if Worcester come back out and work hasn’t been carried out they wouldn’t honour warranty, we done them a report with photos they could send to Worcester 👍
Does the outside need sand and cement, if its got a rubber seal fitted? What if your not sealing to brickwork, wooden or plastic cladding for instance. Also if you use a high level flue kit all the work is done from the inside, Im only putting these questions out there 👍
Yes stops it being pulled out easy as its only a push fit
Good shout,but Worcester flues are all self tapped to stop that happening.
It’s a great question mate especially for working at heights as like you said you can fit them Worcester’s from high level…I would think high level inside properly sealed minimum? Il have to check with that one
Put it this way, if it’s at high level then it will never get checked. Worcester for instance say that the seal alone is fine but gas safe want both sides sealed. The inside is sealed to stop products of combustion entering inside if the flue was to leak inside the hole it passes through, corrosion etc. the outside is to stop products of combustion being sucked back into the hole the flue passes through so the rubber seal if sufficient in doing that job. That’s my take as a gas man.
You’re only as good as your last job. Quality over quantity always if you want to ensure repeat work. Keep up the great work kidder 👍.
Very true mate, thanks for the support 🙌👍
Hi hope all well. What was the issue with low working pressure?
Low at meter, Cadent come out and sorted 👍
@@bluebulldog_uk thanks fo the reply.you have another subscriber now👍
Didn't notice you use the isolation valves on the magnetic cleaner. If so, wise choice. Went to close mine to clean it and they started to leak from the tap seal 😱.
Opened them again and they resealed when the hot water started to flow 😌. I guess I have to replace it.
Didn't know the boiler has isolators. Can I can use them to avoid draining down? Or are they flakey too?
Oh I guess not. Ignore the question 😣
Isolation on boilers rule of thumb don’t touch, only certain boilers them ok to touch, normally a Worcester your ok, unless it’s a really old CDI them they will leak just by looking at them
Sorry but you put the flush valve seal upside down
On the ideal, I did switch it round right way when I realised 👍
The ambiguity around sealing around flues is ridiculous. It should be standard across the board but it isn’t.
Great channel. Warts and all.
Great upload again Luke...
Sorry but not sealing the flue either inside or out is a big red flag as an engineer who doesn't care...
Either that or he had an apprentice who said he had sealed the flue when asked...
Either way its a big risk if your putting your signature to the installation.
Basic checks flue sealed and working pressure, plus silicone in condensate is just lazy by looks of it…they am jobs you would give an apprentice as well but you always check there work just to be sure so sloppy work by looks of it 👍
You was trying to put the ideal washer on the wrong way around 🤦🏼
I know 😂 I did swap it round when I realised thought I’d leave it in there
No such thing as a bad day when it comes to boiler installs. Poor workmanship, 100%.
Siliconing a condi has got to be most unlazy way to be lazy 😂
I know was rough 😂
@@bluebulldog_uk Come across stupid stuff like that all the time. Commonly find brand new installs with condi pumps wired on the switch, honestly feel bad for the guys doing it as they're clearly not prepared to be doing the work they're doing and probably won't improve the way they're doing it. They're only going to shoot themselves in the foot in the long run.
When you change a shower valve you should always flush the pipe work to ensure there is no more debris in the pipe work.
Probably ran out of sundries, sand, cement and solvent weld glue. Micro leaks are a pita, everyone has them from time to time. I know on installs, I call the team and ask how they doing and if they need anything. If the installation guy has a service contract why not rectify these faults on a service. A bit slack really.
Yeah it’s had 2 services since it was installed so had 2 chances to sort install defects out, could of been a bad day but could be like that’s everyday which would be worrying
Too many red flags for it to be a bad day, low working pressure, unsealed flue and external condensate not lagged, installer needs a refresher.
Yeah needs to slow down I think and have a look, will get caught out with too many jobs like that I think
As for that Worcester. Some dipsticks should be banned for life from any plumbing work.
I've spent two Saturdays installing 6 (sic!) pumps in manifold cabinets that were two sizes to small, because some imbecile wanted to save some pennies. Not to mention that the same imbecile was brave enough to assume that the internal pump of a gas heater will suffice for 3-storey house with floor heating and radiators. I did two houses, each one of them opulently finished and decorated, so it was a very stressful job.
And worst of all I know that installing 3-zone hydraulic separator would be the best solution, but piping is laid so badly there no physical way to do it without ruining the interiors.
I wish people would clean their toilets before our arrival.
Anyway, you did a great job again.
Sounds like you’ve had a nightmare job there mate! It isn’t nice when you have to go round fixing other peoples mistakes because all the way through the job you have it in the back of your head “why wasn’t this done correctly first time” annoying…least you sorted it mate 🙌👍 thanks for support mate appreciated
@@bluebulldog_uk I love that job, but sometimes it just drains you completely. Especially when we have to deal with somebody else's negligence.
Shoddy workmanship on the boiler..
1 mistake you can forgive but yeah was 3/4 install defects there
If gas safe would get out and do their job instead of on line assessment!!!!!! Report these tossers.
How often are they actually suppose to inspect your work cause I’ve only ever had one in 2 years I thought it would be a lot more to be honest and random checks