Thanks for your video! New sub and owner of the V4S, took delivery 26th November, 2022. Completed 800 kms, looking to completing 1000 this weekend and taking her for the 1st service next week. Look forward to seeing your other videos. Happy and safe riding 🍻
There's not much to creating these mileage update videos, but they're to the point and real-world honest, so subscribers seem to like them - cheers RG (as always, my friend!).
Sub-par parts in a small batch from supplier - only affected a few of the very earliest bikes - quickly rectified by Ducati, not a problem since. Ducati V4's are very reliable. They're also very thirsty and engine surging has been a problem on mine and a number of friends' bikes. I was disappointed with Ducati NA and my dealer's reaction to solving the surging problem, so I moved on to a Tiger 1200 Rally Explorer. IMPO the Ducati is slightly more fun to ride and the Triumph is a whole lot better to own.
I think it's great. Better than my GSA, And miles better than the Streetfighter and Rocket 3. Of course, any powerful engine sitting at the traffic lights at 95F will produce a lot of heat. But the air ducts work really well to push heat away from the rider, especially once moving. And the rear cylinder deactivation above a certain engine temperature works well too.
Hi Richard, Thanks for yet another good appraisal of the V4S. Today I have ordered a V4S sport with the higher screen and and the full option package, or at least that's what they call it here in Australia. I am trading in my Rocket 3 GT as it is a bit cumbersome in the twisties at speed (though still a great bike), and having followed your videos have decided to switch to the Multistrada as a good all rounder. I noticed on this video that your friend being interviewed has a GPS installed centrally behind the TFT screen. Could please let me know details of the mounting system? Would it be suitable for an Zumo XT or is it specific to the BMW system? Any information you could give me would be greatly appreciated.
Congratulations! I'm sure you will be happy. We thought the optional screen was higher, but Erik bought it and it only appears to be tinted, not taller. I get it re: R3. I enjoyed mine, but it can be hard work. You'll love the agility of the MTS V4 once you get used to it. Jerry has the BMW Navigator (which I think is the same as the Garmin Nav 6?) He says: BMW Mount Cradle @ BMW Dealers Part # 77 52 8 544 464 - $200 RAM M8 Handlebar Base B 367 - $14 RAM Short Double Socket Arm B-201-A $18 RAM Ball adapter w/ AMPS Plate B-347U 1" Ball - $9 ... the RAM stuff should work, but you'll need a cradle that can accommodate your specific GPS. I would advise you purchase a waterproof GPS, or be prepared to use your iPhone 10+ (when they became waterproof) for navigation. Personally if just going to a specific destination I'll use Waze on my iPhone Pro 13. And if I want a specific waypoints route, I'll use a Beeline Moto. It works for me, but we all have our own preference!
@@RichDunn thanks for the information about the GPS mounts. I have ordered what I will need. Regarding the Grand Turismo screen, I was told by the dealer that it is 1.77 inches higher with a more pronounced rise at the top. See also ruclips.net/user/hashtagmultistradav4ssport At 6.35 minutes. Hope you have not been affected by the huge storms that I have seen on the news. 🤞
@@midroc250 Interesting video. We ride together regularly and we cannot notice any difference in shape or height, only tint. Be good to know if yours is taller when it arrives! I like the stock Full/Sport windshield up to 100 mph, and rarely go faster than that, so it works for my 6ft 2". Good luck with the mount fitting, it'll all make an amazing machine even more enjoyable! Let me know how you're getting on with the new bike once it arrives! 👍
As always, thanks for the great video! Question: how is the BMW Garmin mounted to the bike? I see it is in the middle with what looks like a RAM mount- curious which RAM mount. Thx
What you need: BMW Mount Cradle @ BMW Dealers Part # 77 52 8 544 464 - $200 RAM M8 Handlebar Base B 367 - $14 RAM Short Double Socket Arm B-201-A $18 Had mine installed at the dealer $$
An excellent bike for sure. If I was going Ducati would be more tempted by the MS V2 as plenty powerful and dynamic for my needs.My money is on jerry rejoining the Bavarian faithful with the next generation GS/A and I wouldn't blame him....
I have the same hunch Gordon. BMW sitting back, taking notes on Ducati and now the new Triumph Tiger 1200 has confirmed what the Adventure and motorcycle market is expecting in technology. Bring it BMW they will come. Field of Dreams.
@@roadglide You're both - spot on. He loves the bike, but hates chains and anything with less than the GSA's range ('everything' , right? 😀). He'll go back to BMW one day. Maybe I will too. But I love the MTS for now. And the new Tiger 1200 GT Explorer would tempt me too. 8 Gallons tank, shaft-drive and some USP's over the GS, make that new Tiger very tempting!
Yep that V2 has enough power to weight ratio and many will prefer it as it's easier to ride and get the most performance out of it, while saving them money on the MSRP.
Rode a v4s from almaty to astana and back. Took the long route, avoiding the highway as much as I could on the way there, exclusively highway on the way back. Lovely engine and suspension. However, the shape of the tank is terrible compared to a GS or Africa Twin. The stock seat is way too low. The stepped seat design is not only ugly, but is very restrictive when riding off-road. Transitioning from sitting to standing is compromised. I was lucky that there are hundreds of gas stations that sell quality premium along the route, otherwise would have had bad fuel anxiety. Regardless of rpm it guzzles fuel.
Did you try the seat in the highest setting? It's the least capable off-road heavyweight adventure-tourer and by far the thirstiest IMHO. You'd probably enjoy the new Rally version more, with its larger fuel capacity (physical size is the same, but 7.9 gallons) and rear cylinder deactivation at low speeds to increase economy. But ultimately the MTS V4S is the sportiest road bike in this group, so if you ride off-road occasionally, it's not the best bike for you personally.
@@RichDunn yes, however, i was yearning for a bit more room. Also need the ability to scoot forward or back, not being locked into the bike. The Hypermotard’s ergonomics are perfect.
Gas mileage and range, shaft drive, resale value, no diving under breaking, excellent slow speed stability, better TFT interface vs the Color Red, amazing engine notes and loads of power. And the winner is GS 😃. Did he ever stopped riding for a sleep? He just got that bike.
He's a GS fan-boy, and will own another because he does very high mileages, which shaft drive and range are held in higher regards to. If he buys another he will miss the power of the Ducati, its lighter weight, the active cruise control, blindspot monitoring, one-handed screen adjustment, the more comfortable seats, the better handling, ride quality, and a whole host of other things. But no bike is perfect and it depends on what features are the most important to us. He may well end up with a 2022 Tiger 1200 GT Explorer, because of the shaft drive and 321 mile range, plus not having too give up some features like blindspot monitoring, and long 10k service intervals.
Yes, you seem to be! There's six of us with them, and nearly all of us say it's the most comfortable bike they've ever ridden. It's the most comfortable bike I've owned and find 300-350 mile days fine. Jerry's ridden nearly 700 miles in a day and said it was fine. I still think the Gold Wing is better though 😀👍
Hello & Greetings from India! With due Respect, That's a remarkable & an inspirational odo reading on a V4s. Keep it up! As mentioned, the engine was replaced at 8000 miles. Was that under a recall towards faulty valve guide system? I believe it was for a specific batch of MTS which stands sorted now. I'm looking forward to own one very soon. Sir, In a nutshell, Can you please share your ownership experience towards it's Riding comfort, Reliability, Build Quality, Engine Refinement, Thermal management, braking, suspension, longevity of the parts & components,functionality, vibrations, teething issues & failures if any in your ownership experience? Warm Regards.
Many thanks! Yes. The engine sounded sweet as anything and he'd already covered 8k miles. But Ducati wasn't happy with the quality of the valve guides (supplied from one of two suppliers) and decided to recall those few bikes as a precaution. Very responsible, handled very fast and efficiently and they gave him free additional servicing, and about $1,000 in Ducati merchandise/parts. I actually know of two unaffected owners who were annoyed their bikes weren't subject to the recall because of the generosity of 'make it right' credit from Ducati to those affected! 😀 I know six owners (friends) and nobody has had a single reliability problem or warranty claim, other than Jerry. Re: your questions, myself and five friends who own them, believe all of those points you mention are excellently covered. The only thing I would say is some of us (myself included) felt some handlebar vibrations (usually on a long ride, at slow speed, on a cold day) for the first couple of thousand miles, and then it smoothed out. I can ride mine (4k miles) all day long without that now. Jerry has done some near 700 mile days and says it's more comfortable than his GSA was. And I agree with him. Buy with confidence, it's the best all-around road-orientated ADV bike right now - buy with confidence! P.s. The GSA and Tiger 1200 Explorer have a better range (8 gallon tanks) and shaft-drive, but aren't as much fun/dynamic, or as good looking; but worth considering if those are really important to you.
@@RichDunn Greetings for the day. Let me Thank you for your Patience. Truly appreciate your kind efforts over drafting a comprehensive reply towards my concerns. It indeed raised my confidence to own it. No, I'm not smitten with Tiger 900/1200 or a GS/GSA. Tiger always felt disengaging & with GS/GSA, my sub-conscious mind always screamed about insecurity carrying two horizontally laid cylinder blocks encapsulating beneath my legs. With the flow, GS may be a good motorcycle, but not for me. Each to it's own, but I wanted something which I can control rather than something controls me. All I was apprehensive was about the reliability & loyalty which you secured me with. I'm sure, this Multistrada V4S will keep me thrilled.. Always! Problem solved :)
@@mohitvazirani74 Yes the BMW's leg-breaker' pots always concern me too. And the Tiger is very angular, certainly not as pretty as the svelte Ducati. Glad to be of assistance!
It didn't in our personal opinion. But Ducati was being overly-cautious due to a supplier quality issue. Not uncommon. BMW has just gone through a similar thing with an early batch of R1300GS, except they haven't handled it as well as Ducati did with their customers in terms of offering compensation etc.
Great review, thanks. I have a '21 model and the only issue I have is the back brakes on mine are worthless took it to the dealer and had them both flushed and still the back brakes are no good even though it has a full pedal..
Ducati had a design issue with older Multi's and Diavel's rear brakes. My Diavel back brake couldn't even hold the bike still when stationary on a hill! I had it bled several times - after each time it worked badly and then almost not at all. Poor. But the rear brake on the MTS V4 is good, I'm on my second V4S at the moment.
Thanks for the info, my v4s back won't hold crap either. Anyway I like this bike and I'm going to have it fixed if I have to replace the master cylinder all the way back to the calipers. safe travels! @@RichDunn
Nice bike, but am I the only one that thinks, if you had problems during the first 23.000 miles, it is NOT a reliable bike? I expect no problems during the first 60.000 miles!
He had the bike for 30k+ miles in the end and never had a single reliability problem with the bike. Another friend has 25k on his, same thing. Should be good for double 60k or more IMHO.
One supplier of valve guides provided a faulty batch. All on very early machines, handled extremely well by Ducati in a quick recall, which included compensation as well as a brand new crated engine.
There was a recall with some early bikes due to a parts supplier providing sub-quality valve guides (which didn't meet spec) to Ducati, who decided to air on the side of caution and provide full replacement engines to those owners. Jerry had covered 8k miles problem-free - in fact, his engine actually sounded fantastic. But it was nice that Ducati stood by their product, issued the recall, and responsibly made it right. He then rode 30k trouble-free miles on it. He's just traded it for a GSA, because at heart he's a boxer man through and through. But he keeps reminding me about everything he misses on the Multistrada V4!
@@RichDunn thank you very much for the very detailed answer. And that’s the issue with trading in: after you’ve done so you start recalling all the things you liked about the bike you swapped out of. To this day I don’t know why I sold my K1300GT to spare a few dollars in garage costs and insurance when I should have sold one of the other bikes instead. Argh I’ll always regret that
@@michaelbiniakewitz2329 I miss 'every' bike I've ever sold because there's always an occasion when it would be the perfect bike to be on! The Ducati V4's are certainly very special though. I do love my MTS V4S!
It didn't need it. The engine sounded sweet as anything and he'd already covered several thousand miles. But Ducati wasn't happy with the quality of the valve guides (supplied from one of two suppliers) and decided to recall them as a precaution. Very responsible, handled very fast and efficiently and they gave him free additional servicing, and about $1,000 in Ducati merchandise/parts. I actually know of two unaffected owners who were annoyed their bikes weren't subject to the recall because of the generosity of 'make it right' credit from Ducati to those affected! 😀 I know six owners (friends) and nobody has had a single reliability problem or warranty claim, other than Jerry. However, Jerry and II did have warranty claims on our BMW GSA's, plus it took BMW several months to resolve their faulty brakes, which put a stop-sale on their range for months here in the states.
@@RichDunn Beautiful bikes but both Ducati and BMW are no where near as reliable as most people seem to think compared to Japanese manufacturers . In the UK they are called Premium or Exotic for some unknown reason ? . Maybe a badge thing ? . To me my bike is a dependable friend who I don't have to worry about too much( apart from regular servicing and maintenance ) and doesn't cost me a fortune . I must admit I have been tempted but one look at customer satisfaction and reliability tables soon brings me back down to earth . I was told by a used bike sales manager that he would not buy a Ducati or BMW outside of its warranty unless it was very cheap. All the best and ride safe 👍
@@DavidMartin-ru5zt Fair points. I guess premium and reliability don't always go hand in hand. However there are six of us with Multistrada's now, and none of us have had a failure or any kind whatsoever. And we all ride big miles, as Jerry's bike shows. Having owned 35 bikes, including several Honda's, several Yamaha's, 10 BMW's, and 4 Ducati's. IMPE all I can say is the Ducati's and BMW's have been as reliable as my Japanese machines while offering many more cutting edge features and style. So it depends whether reliability is the most important purchasing criteria, or whether other factors appeal more to the buyers. Japanese bikes tend to lack soul, but are clinically efficient. I would like a DCT Gold Wing for instance. But until then, the Ducati starts every time on the ger-of-go.
Ducati and BMW definitely not as reliable as the Japanese firms, but if you want a great adventure bike you don’t really have much choice. None of the Japanese brands make anything particularly interesting in the larger adventure bike sector, so you have to go European.
@@timothydubber549 you are right. I recently bought a 2016 Ducati Multistrada 1200 and love it but I only bought it as there wasn’t a Japanese adventure sport I wanted. Can’t understand why Yamaha don’t make an MT10 Tracer.
What bike has a 'better' range than the GSA? I'm scratching my head! The Gold Wing and RT are good. The (not yet released) Desert X 'with' auxiliary tank has a theoretical range of 321 miles. But that's it if you don't like stopping at gas stations! 😀👍
The gas range is good enough & stations are placed so well you shouldn't have any problems, we are feeding 170hp engine that is exhilarating compared to a lot of the competition
@@raypetrocelli595 This is very true. Chains and filling up every 150 miles is not a problem for me personally, but for those that want shaft drive and 300 mile plus ranges the GSA and now the Tiger 1200 Explorer are the way to go.
Most states and cities have plenty of gasoline ⛽ stations spread around with ease of refueling & 150 to 175 miles on any motorcycle is worth a stop to stretch & walk our legs so the fuel range isn't a problem at all, once any GS owners drive the Ducati Multistrada V4S the engine is the main attraction & the rest is Dynamic as well. Hats off to all the companies & it's everyone's choice to pick what they want
@Tyler Braden people just try to find a flaw in products no matter what, some of it is envy or jealous, the Ducati Multistrada V4S is amazing & the fuel range is excellent considering we're feeding 170hp lol
The K16 is one of the worst IMPO. All that weight and torque just eats them up. If you ride sports bikes in hot climates, 3k from a rear is good. My Streetfighter V4S would be going off by 1.5k and done by 2.5-3k. But if you can only get 3k out of a tire on 'any' of the 1200 ADV's - time to change up a gear! 😀
@@RichDunn never got more than 1.7k on my ZX14r and less than 2k on my Tiger 900 Rally Pro. Have an incoming GSA too. When I hear about people getting wok out of a tire I just can’t imagine how they’re doing that.
@@ryanmalone2681 Well that's the nature of off-road orientated tires. Try the EOM road orientated rubber and you'll get 5-6k ruclips.net/video/88MugLAxdkQ/видео.html
Finally!!! A young man like me testing the motorcycles, Great 😃
Thanks for your video!
New sub and owner of the V4S, took delivery 26th November, 2022.
Completed 800 kms, looking to completing 1000 this weekend and taking her for the 1st service next week.
Look forward to seeing your other videos.
Happy and safe riding 🍻
Enjoy! The Multistrada V4S is the most fun adventure bike to ride bar none!
@@RichDunn thank you.
When you interview someone who is a real rider that uses the bike as his heart content without biases
Real world/owners reviews are the best.
Yes, they are. Nothing like clicking up real-world miles to tell it like it really is!
100% Richard. Good assessments. Ride safe and ride often.
There's not much to creating these mileage update videos, but they're to the point and real-world honest, so subscribers seem to like them - cheers RG (as always, my friend!).
And it handles so well, gave the Sportsbike a good run for there money thru the twisties….
For sure, Pete!
Why was the engine changed at 8K miles please?
Sub-par parts in a small batch from supplier - only affected a few of the very earliest bikes - quickly rectified by Ducati, not a problem since. Ducati V4's are very reliable. They're also very thirsty and engine surging has been a problem on mine and a number of friends' bikes. I was disappointed with Ducati NA and my dealer's reaction to solving the surging problem, so I moved on to a Tiger 1200 Rally Explorer. IMPO the Ducati is slightly more fun to ride and the Triumph is a whole lot better to own.
Hello. Nice review thanks. Did you try and compare BMW S1000XR 2021- ? Wondering to change to MSV4S ✌️
Yes, I've ridden that. Her are my thoughts on the XR: ruclips.net/video/_XiSmMD3mwA/видео.html
How’s the heat management with the new the fins ???Safe Miles 🙌🙌
I think it's great. Better than my GSA, And miles better than the Streetfighter and Rocket 3. Of course, any powerful engine sitting at the traffic lights at 95F will produce a lot of heat. But the air ducts work really well to push heat away from the rider, especially once moving. And the rear cylinder deactivation above a certain engine temperature works well too.
@@RichDunn Thanks a ton mate….happy new year 🙌🙌
@@awesomeagnihotrisvlog You're welcome. Same to you too!
Hi Richard,
Thanks for yet another good appraisal of the V4S.
Today I have ordered a V4S sport with the higher screen and and the full option package, or at least that's what they call it here in Australia.
I am trading in my Rocket 3 GT as it is a bit cumbersome in the twisties at speed (though still a great bike), and having followed your videos have decided to switch to the Multistrada as a good all rounder.
I noticed on this video that your friend being interviewed has a GPS installed centrally behind the TFT screen.
Could please let me know details of the mounting system? Would it be suitable for an Zumo XT or is it specific to the BMW system?
Any information you could give me would be greatly appreciated.
Congratulations! I'm sure you will be happy. We thought the optional screen was higher, but Erik bought it and it only appears to be tinted, not taller. I get it re: R3. I enjoyed mine, but it can be hard work. You'll love the agility of the MTS V4 once you get used to it.
Jerry has the BMW Navigator (which I think is the same as the Garmin Nav 6?)
He says:
BMW Mount Cradle @ BMW Dealers Part # 77 52 8 544 464 - $200
RAM M8 Handlebar Base B 367 - $14
RAM Short Double Socket Arm B-201-A $18
RAM Ball adapter w/ AMPS Plate B-347U 1" Ball - $9
... the RAM stuff should work, but you'll need a cradle that can accommodate your specific GPS. I would advise you purchase a waterproof GPS, or be prepared to use your iPhone 10+ (when they became waterproof) for navigation. Personally if just going to a specific destination I'll use Waze on my iPhone Pro 13. And if I want a specific waypoints route, I'll use a Beeline Moto. It works for me, but we all have our own preference!
@@RichDunn thanks for the information about the GPS mounts. I have ordered what I will need.
Regarding the Grand Turismo screen, I was told by the dealer that it is 1.77 inches higher with a more pronounced rise at the top. See also ruclips.net/user/hashtagmultistradav4ssport At 6.35 minutes.
Hope you have not been affected by the huge storms that I have seen on the news. 🤞
@@midroc250 Interesting video. We ride together regularly and we cannot notice any difference in shape or height, only tint. Be good to know if yours is taller when it arrives! I like the stock Full/Sport windshield up to 100 mph, and rarely go faster than that, so it works for my 6ft 2". Good luck with the mount fitting, it'll all make an amazing machine even more enjoyable! Let me know how you're getting on with the new bike once it arrives! 👍
@@RichDunn Will do.
I am the same height as you so comparing the 2 screens will be interesting.
As always, thanks for the great video! Question: how is the BMW Garmin mounted to the bike? I see it is in the middle with what looks like a RAM mount- curious which RAM mount. Thx
I'll ask Jerry to respond to you, Kevin.
What you need:
BMW Mount Cradle @ BMW Dealers Part # 77 52 8 544 464 - $200
RAM M8 Handlebar Base B 367 - $14
RAM Short Double Socket Arm B-201-A $18
Had mine installed at the dealer $$
Also - RAM Ball adapter w/ AMPS Plate B-347U 1" Ball - $9
@@jerrybrooks3075 Thanks, Jerry! 😀👍
@@jerrybrooks3075 thank you so much for taking the time and effort to respond. Incredible!
Thought that racket at 2:40 was a Harley!!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🏍🏍🏍🏍🍺🍺🍺
An excellent bike for sure. If I was going Ducati would be more tempted by the MS V2 as plenty powerful and dynamic for my needs.My money is on jerry rejoining the Bavarian faithful with the next generation GS/A and I wouldn't blame him....
I have the same hunch Gordon. BMW sitting back, taking notes on Ducati and now the new Triumph Tiger 1200 has confirmed what the Adventure and motorcycle market is expecting in technology. Bring it BMW they will come. Field of Dreams.
@@roadglide You're both - spot on. He loves the bike, but hates chains and anything with less than the GSA's range ('everything' , right? 😀). He'll go back to BMW one day. Maybe I will too. But I love the MTS for now. And the new Tiger 1200 GT Explorer would tempt me too. 8 Gallons tank, shaft-drive and some USP's over the GS, make that new Tiger very tempting!
Yep that V2 has enough power to weight ratio and many will prefer it as it's easier to ride and get the most performance out of it, while saving them money on the MSRP.
@@RichDunn Unfortunately, some of those savings will be going towards valve adjustments that are twice as frequent as the V4's.
@@markheinig True! 😁
Rode a v4s from almaty to astana and back. Took the long route, avoiding the highway as much as I could on the way there, exclusively highway on the way back. Lovely engine and suspension. However, the shape of the tank is terrible compared to a GS or Africa Twin. The stock seat is way too low. The stepped seat design is not only ugly, but is very restrictive when riding off-road. Transitioning from sitting to standing is compromised.
I was lucky that there are hundreds of gas stations that sell quality premium along the route, otherwise would have had bad fuel anxiety. Regardless of rpm it guzzles fuel.
Did you try the seat in the highest setting? It's the least capable off-road heavyweight adventure-tourer and by far the thirstiest IMHO. You'd probably enjoy the new Rally version more, with its larger fuel capacity (physical size is the same, but 7.9 gallons) and rear cylinder deactivation at low speeds to increase economy. But ultimately the MTS V4S is the sportiest road bike in this group, so if you ride off-road occasionally, it's not the best bike for you personally.
@@RichDunn yes, however, i was yearning for a bit more room. Also need the ability to scoot forward or back, not being locked into the bike. The Hypermotard’s ergonomics are perfect.
Gas mileage and range, shaft drive, resale value, no diving under breaking, excellent slow speed stability, better TFT interface vs the Color Red, amazing engine notes and loads of power. And the winner is GS 😃. Did he ever stopped riding for a sleep? He just got that bike.
He's a GS fan-boy, and will own another because he does very high mileages, which shaft drive and range are held in higher regards to. If he buys another he will miss the power of the Ducati, its lighter weight, the active cruise control, blindspot monitoring, one-handed screen adjustment, the more comfortable seats, the better handling, ride quality, and a whole host of other things. But no bike is perfect and it depends on what features are the most important to us. He may well end up with a 2022 Tiger 1200 GT Explorer, because of the shaft drive and 321 mile range, plus not having too give up some features like blindspot monitoring, and long 10k service intervals.
Am I the only one that finds the seat uncomfortable? Riding to Sargent seats in Jacksonville next week in an attempt to rectify my problem.
Yes, you seem to be! There's six of us with them, and nearly all of us say it's the most comfortable bike they've ever ridden. It's the most comfortable bike I've owned and find 300-350 mile days fine. Jerry's ridden nearly 700 miles in a day and said it was fine. I still think the Gold Wing is better though 😀👍
Hello & Greetings from India!
With due Respect, That's a remarkable & an inspirational odo reading on a V4s.
Keep it up!
As mentioned, the engine was replaced at 8000 miles. Was that under a recall towards faulty valve guide system? I believe it was for a specific batch of MTS which stands sorted now.
I'm looking forward to own one very soon. Sir, In a nutshell, Can you please share your ownership experience towards it's Riding comfort, Reliability, Build Quality, Engine Refinement, Thermal management, braking, suspension, longevity of the parts & components,functionality, vibrations, teething issues & failures if any in your ownership experience?
Warm Regards.
Many thanks! Yes. The engine sounded sweet as anything and he'd already covered 8k miles. But Ducati wasn't happy with the quality of the valve guides (supplied from one of two suppliers) and decided to recall those few bikes as a precaution. Very responsible, handled very fast and efficiently and they gave him free additional servicing, and about $1,000 in Ducati merchandise/parts. I actually know of two unaffected owners who were annoyed their bikes weren't subject to the recall because of the generosity of 'make it right' credit from Ducati to those affected! 😀 I know six owners (friends) and nobody has had a single reliability problem or warranty claim, other than Jerry. Re: your questions, myself and five friends who own them, believe all of those points you mention are excellently covered. The only thing I would say is some of us (myself included) felt some handlebar vibrations (usually on a long ride, at slow speed, on a cold day) for the first couple of thousand miles, and then it smoothed out. I can ride mine (4k miles) all day long without that now. Jerry has done some near 700 mile days and says it's more comfortable than his GSA was. And I agree with him. Buy with confidence, it's the best all-around road-orientated ADV bike right now - buy with confidence! P.s. The GSA and Tiger 1200 Explorer have a better range (8 gallon tanks) and shaft-drive, but aren't as much fun/dynamic, or as good looking; but worth considering if those are really important to you.
@@RichDunn Greetings for the day. Let me Thank you for your Patience. Truly appreciate your kind efforts over drafting a comprehensive reply towards my concerns. It indeed raised my confidence to own it. No, I'm not smitten with Tiger 900/1200 or a GS/GSA. Tiger always felt disengaging & with GS/GSA, my sub-conscious mind always screamed about insecurity carrying two horizontally laid cylinder blocks encapsulating beneath my legs. With the flow, GS may be a good motorcycle, but not for me. Each to it's own, but I wanted something which I can control rather than something controls me. All I was apprehensive was about the reliability & loyalty which you secured me with. I'm sure, this Multistrada V4S will keep me thrilled.. Always!
Problem solved :)
@@mohitvazirani74 Yes the BMW's
leg-breaker' pots always concern me too. And the Tiger is very angular, certainly not as pretty as the svelte Ducati. Glad to be of assistance!
Best bike ever
Great review, he forgot to say the Multistrada is about 15/20 kg lighter than a Gs
Yep, if he returns to a BMW GSA, he'll miss the lightness, power, and comfort!
@@RichDunn exactly
Why did it need an engine after 8000 miles?
It didn't in our personal opinion. But Ducati was being overly-cautious due to a supplier quality issue. Not uncommon. BMW has just gone through a similar thing with an early batch of R1300GS, except they haven't handled it as well as Ducati did with their customers in terms of offering compensation etc.
I usually just keep it up!! A man his age !!!! 😁😁😁😁😁🍺🍺🍺🍺
Dawsonville?
Yes, good spot - Circle K in Dawsonville! 👍
Great review, thanks. I have a '21 model and the only issue I have is the back brakes on mine are worthless took it to the dealer and had them both flushed and still the back brakes are no good even though it has a full pedal..
Ducati had a design issue with older Multi's and Diavel's rear brakes. My Diavel back brake couldn't even hold the bike still when stationary on a hill! I had it bled several times - after each time it worked badly and then almost not at all. Poor. But the rear brake on the MTS V4 is good, I'm on my second V4S at the moment.
Thanks for the info, my v4s back won't hold crap either. Anyway I like this bike and I'm going to have it fixed if I have to replace the master cylinder all the way back to the calipers. safe travels!
@@RichDunn
Nice bike, but am I the only one that thinks, if you had problems during the first 23.000 miles, it is NOT a reliable bike? I expect no problems during the first 60.000 miles!
He had the bike for 30k+ miles in the end and never had a single reliability problem with the bike. Another friend has 25k on his, same thing. Should be good for double 60k or more IMHO.
New engine?? Why???
One supplier of valve guides provided a faulty batch. All on very early machines, handled extremely well by Ducati in a quick recall, which included compensation as well as a brand new crated engine.
Does anyone know why he had an engine put in at 8,000 miles?
There was a recall with some early bikes due to a parts supplier providing sub-quality valve guides (which didn't meet spec) to Ducati, who decided to air on the side of caution and provide full replacement engines to those owners. Jerry had covered 8k miles problem-free - in fact, his engine actually sounded fantastic. But it was nice that Ducati stood by their product, issued the recall, and responsibly made it right. He then rode 30k trouble-free miles on it. He's just traded it for a GSA, because at heart he's a boxer man through and through. But he keeps reminding me about everything he misses on the Multistrada V4!
@@RichDunn thank you very much for the very detailed answer. And that’s the issue with trading in: after you’ve done so you start recalling all the things you liked about the bike you swapped out of. To this day I don’t know why I sold my K1300GT to spare a few dollars in garage costs and insurance when I should have sold one of the other bikes instead. Argh I’ll always regret that
@@michaelbiniakewitz2329 I miss 'every' bike I've ever sold because there's always an occasion when it would be the perfect bike to be on! The Ducati V4's are certainly very special though. I do love my MTS V4S!
nice looking bike for an Audi :-)
Or a Porsche, or a Lamborghini 😀
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Cheers! 👍👍👍
I have only 21.500 km in my V4S
Must try harder! 😆👍
Zero problems but it had a new engine ???? Imagine the cost of that outside of warranty 😮😮😮😮.
It didn't need it. The engine sounded sweet as anything and he'd already covered several thousand miles. But Ducati wasn't happy with the quality of the valve guides (supplied from one of two suppliers) and decided to recall them as a precaution. Very responsible, handled very fast and efficiently and they gave him free additional servicing, and about $1,000 in Ducati merchandise/parts. I actually know of two unaffected owners who were annoyed their bikes weren't subject to the recall because of the generosity of 'make it right' credit from Ducati to those affected! 😀 I know six owners (friends) and nobody has had a single reliability problem or warranty claim, other than Jerry. However, Jerry and II did have warranty claims on our BMW GSA's, plus it took BMW several months to resolve their faulty brakes, which put a stop-sale on their range for months here in the states.
@@RichDunn Beautiful bikes but both Ducati and BMW are no where near as reliable as most people seem to think compared to Japanese manufacturers . In the UK they are called Premium or Exotic for some unknown reason ? . Maybe a badge thing ? . To me my bike is a dependable friend who I don't have to worry about too much( apart from regular servicing and maintenance ) and doesn't cost me a fortune . I must admit I have been tempted but one look at customer satisfaction and reliability tables soon brings me back down to earth . I was told by a used bike sales manager that he would not buy a Ducati or BMW outside of its warranty unless it was very cheap. All the best and ride safe 👍
@@DavidMartin-ru5zt Fair points. I guess premium and reliability don't always go hand in hand. However there are six of us with Multistrada's now, and none of us have had a failure or any kind whatsoever. And we all ride big miles, as Jerry's bike shows. Having owned 35 bikes, including several Honda's, several Yamaha's, 10 BMW's, and 4 Ducati's. IMPE all I can say is the Ducati's and BMW's have been as reliable as my Japanese machines while offering many more cutting edge features and style. So it depends whether reliability is the most important purchasing criteria, or whether other factors appeal more to the buyers. Japanese bikes tend to lack soul, but are clinically efficient. I would like a DCT Gold Wing for instance. But until then, the Ducati starts every time on the ger-of-go.
Ducati and BMW definitely not as reliable as the Japanese firms, but if you want a great adventure bike you don’t really have much choice.
None of the Japanese brands make anything particularly interesting in the larger adventure bike sector, so you have to go European.
@@timothydubber549 you are right. I recently bought a 2016 Ducati Multistrada 1200 and love it but I only bought it as there wasn’t a Japanese adventure sport I wanted. Can’t understand why Yamaha don’t make an MT10 Tracer.
Aha, the gas range is another reason to keep my 2020 BMW R1250 GSA.
What bike has a 'better' range than the GSA? I'm scratching my head! The Gold Wing and RT are good. The (not yet released) Desert X 'with' auxiliary tank has a theoretical range of 321 miles. But that's it if you don't like stopping at gas stations! 😀👍
The gas range is good enough & stations are placed so well you shouldn't have any problems, we are feeding 170hp engine that is exhilarating compared to a lot of the competition
@@raypetrocelli595 This is very true. Chains and filling up every 150 miles is not a problem for me personally, but for those that want shaft drive and 300 mile plus ranges the GSA and now the Tiger 1200 Explorer are the way to go.
Most states and cities have plenty of gasoline ⛽ stations spread around with ease of refueling & 150 to 175 miles on any motorcycle is worth a stop to stretch & walk our legs so the fuel range isn't a problem at all, once any GS owners drive the Ducati Multistrada V4S the engine is the main attraction & the rest is Dynamic as well. Hats off to all the companies & it's everyone's choice to pick what they want
@Tyler Braden people just try to find a flaw in products no matter what, some of it is envy or jealous, the Ducati Multistrada V4S is amazing & the fuel range is excellent considering we're feeding 170hp lol
MTS V 4 S TOP
Thank you Catalina!
Never got more than 3200 miles out of any tire on any bike. Including K1600.
The K16 is one of the worst IMPO. All that weight and torque just eats them up. If you ride sports bikes in hot climates, 3k from a rear is good. My Streetfighter V4S would be going off by 1.5k and done by 2.5-3k. But if you can only get 3k out of a tire on 'any' of the 1200 ADV's - time to change up a gear! 😀
@@RichDunn never got more than 1.7k on my ZX14r and less than 2k on my Tiger 900 Rally Pro. Have an incoming GSA too. When I hear about people getting wok out of a tire I just can’t imagine how they’re doing that.
@@ryanmalone2681 2k out of a Tiger? Come on, bro... seriously? What we're you running, TK80's?
@@RichDunn Anakee Wild most;y off-road with the exception of the ride to the dirt.
@@ryanmalone2681 Well that's the nature of off-road orientated tires. Try the EOM road orientated rubber and you'll get 5-6k ruclips.net/video/88MugLAxdkQ/видео.html
Who puts 23k on a new bike? This is insane! 😂
He averages over 30k/year and he's in his seventies - hero!
@@RichDunn Outstanding!!!