Congrats on graduating Matt! Been in a rut lately in deciding on what I want to do after graduating with a Kinesiology Degree, but you really helped me in deciding in some alternatives.
There are so many more possibilities than you can even think of right now. When I graduated with my Kines degree and got rejected to all PT schools it seemed like I couldn't figure anything out for work or career wise but within a few months of hustling and meeting people I ended up with opportunities in Personal Training, Strength and Conditioning and Corporate Fitness and had a full schedule of rewarding work with good people. Just wake up each day with a positive attitude and find ways to meet people that you can help and can help you.
I needed this video, I’ve been worried about getting into PT school for a while now. Wondering if my application and shadowing hours are enough to get into a school whenever I graduate with my undergrad. But this video quelled my doubts a lot. Thank you once again for this!!
This dropped right before my first week of PT school, coincidence? I think not! Haha congrats again Matt! It’s kind of nice to hear somebody say PT school wasn’t so bad!!
I have been accepted into a 2 year hybrid DPT that starts soon. I'm 41 and would have to leave a security, high paying job to attend the program. I am re-thinking the PT school debt (plus living expenses -- I have a mortgage and single so no financial help) and am 85% sure I am going to drop out before classes start. I think DPT programs are just so expensive for the expected income level. I think you are right in saying that a good trainer and some of the other career options can pay just as much as a PT.. I definitely have some thinking to do!!
For me, the negative net wealth of being a DPT just wasn’t responsible for me to do especially after the pandemic and the oversaturated DPT job market. But a nursing program costs 2% the tuition at the Jr College level and makes more than a DPT. 10 years ago there was a demand for PT and schools didn’t have the leverage to charge $110K+… PTAs make just as much as well and tuition is way less. You may not need the “DPT” degree to actually do what you want to do as a career. I just didn’t see it make sense to literally be poor just to work as a PT
@@JoshGonzalez93 I ended up going! I am now in my 4th week of the program. When I left my job, my first line supervisor said "received" when I gave my 2 week notice. When he spoke to me he was very fake and saying things like 'I am glad you will be happy' and 'I wish you the best' but it was not genuine.. My director never said 1 word to me. No thanks for your 18+ years of service or good luck. Nothing.. So I guess they were mad I left and I realized just how toxic the work environment really was for me. Now that I am in school, I am surrounded by professors and students who just want everyone to succeed and become great clinicians. Honestly, it is a lot of money to go back to school, but money is not everything. I was so miserable at my job. I am happy to be learning and in the end, I will be happier and will have way more intangibles than I ever had at my old job.. I am normally not a risk taker, but I am glad I took the chance. I wanted it bad enough and I found a way to make it work. :)
@@morriganromberger9498 I was accepted into the 25 month hybrid program at Arcadia University. I was also accepted into the University of Scranton but that is was a traditional 3 year residential program. I chose the accelerated program so I can get back to the workforce sooner and have a year less of living expenses.
One consideration for current DPT students and possibly current undergrads is the student division of the APTA. You'll meet experienced DPTs, learn about legislative issues, meet vendors, see cutting edge techniques.... A true professional in an actual profession is a lifelong learner AND teacher. It's more than just going to class or showing up for your shift.
I remember that feeling. First time I got rejected everywhere and second time I ended up accepted to multiple top 10 programs. In both cases it worked out fine
Canadians really do have it better, tuition at University of Toronto is $10,000 a year. Although only Canadians can apply since it’s probably governmental funded.
I think that Athletic Training is a great alternative. It is a masters degree and really specializes in working with athletes. During the AT program you learn more specifically about injury evaluation and understanding the healing process of each injury. AT's work majority with athletes but can be used inside PT clinics. You don't have to have a PT degree to work in a PT clinic. AT's also learn about working with geriatric and pediatric patients, learn about some chronic diseases and neurodegenerative disease but not as much as PTs do.
First view here. Commenting for the algorithm and also wanted to let you know that you should do more videos on sports specific training. Other suggestions would be a training approach for all-round fitness like becoming the jack of all trades and parkour would be interesting too.
Appreciate the comment for the algorithm. Definitely looking forward to filming some athletes outdoors this summer and posting some cool videos in the near future.
@@TheMovementSystem You can search videos for it and analyze it's movement patterns. Basically, a lot of running, climbing, vaulting, landing from high places etc. And remember, there is no flips or tricks on parkour. No useless movements, just the most efficient way to get from point a to point b.
Graduated P.T. School in 2008, it cost me 40k. Some of my classmates had low 6 figure debt when they graduated. Like the content creator, I worked as a personal trainer when doing the DPT program. I had multiple personal training certifications and they helped when I took the anatomy class in the DPT program. Also Mnemonics were very helpful memorizing cranial nerves and which cranial nerves were motor, sensory or both. Example; Some say marry money, but my brother says , big b@@bs make money. The aforesaid are which ones are motor, sensory and both for the 12 cranial nerves, have fun.
I'm in an accelerated program right now and there is absolutely no way someone could work 30-40 hours a week while being in this program. I wonder how different yours was than mine is.
Congratulations Matt! Im starting my semester 2 of Physio program in New Zealand. Do you have any tips on studying and acing practical exams? Love your content!
Thanks for reviewing. I have a lot of similarities as I have been doing personal training, strength and conditioning for a while. Also, I am almost done with my first year of physical therapy school. I don't think PT school is hard in the sense of the topic itself but the volume of information is stressful compared to undergraduate so I am not sure what you mean when you think PT school is easy but more kudos to you! I would like to know your study tips you had during PT school? For example, how you studied for musculoskeletal and neuro? Thanks
First year is the most challenging then it’s smooth sailing relatively. I did a lot of intense studying the day or two before the exam to be honest. I learned a lot from RUclips videos like Ninja Nerd Science especially for Neuro
Congrats on graduating! If you don't mind answering, what worked best for you to be able to work and study at the same time? I'm a current SPT who would like to work and study, but still struggling to find a way to be most efficient to do so. Thanks!
To be honest I just put things off until the last minute and studied with high intensity like my life depended on it. It's definitely not for everyone, but I would sit down and learn 4-6 weeks of neuro in one evening. And really learn it not just memorize. I also didn't worry about details just really understanding the important stuff really well.
If you have a background in exercise science, you should have known that if you were interested in physical therapy for athletes you should have gone in to Athletic Training. Athletic Training and Strength and Conditioning is where you should have focused.
Thank you for this. Since you already a professional, I think you would be in the best position to answer this.. Is there any direct relation with sports medicine ? Also.. What is the salary/pay like ?
I’m currently in an Athletic Training Masters program. Would already having a masters degree give an edge when applying to PT schools? And would the AT background make PT school easier?
I have a 3.92 with my only 2 B's being in chemistry and A&P, I graduate with my exercise science in spring of next year. I also have an associates in health and fitness sciences. Should i retake those B classes before trying to apply or say eff it we ball?
Series question tho, do you think retaking anatomy and physiology play a huge factor in ur program acceptance? I have a c and c+ for both a n p 1 and 2. I feel like I should retake them…
11:27 I’m sorry but the average personal trainer makes way less than a physical therapist. You might make $45/hour in rare cases, but you won’t have 40 hours a week nor the same benefits.
If you’re average then compare yourself to averages. But if you compare the top 10% of personal trainers to the top 10% of Physical Therapists they’re actually surprisingly similar. I know at least 20 personal trainers making six figures a year.
Im in the army in the moment so luckily cost wont be an issue for me since I can activate my GI Bill. Currently working on my Bachelors in Exercise Science. Any tips from anyone else that was in the military then went PT would be cool
I know this is old but im sitting around a 3.4 with As in AP 1 and 2, Getting my hours as an aide right now, Do you think I have a good shot I still have 4 semesters left of school
No you just need the prerequisites. You could have a degree in business if you wanted although it wouldn't be practical since you'd need to take a lot of extra classes to meet the prerequisites
The oldest student I think was around 45 I believe. There was another student around 39. Of course you’ll have to consider the pros and cons, the work it will take, the time, etc. to decide if it’s right for you but 30 is definitely not too late
I can’t speak for everywhere, but at least my classmates had no trouble finding a job right after school. I think in the USA the PT job market is very good
Definitely shadow to make sure you like what you are getting into day to day. I think a lot of PTAs really enjoy their role. Possibly even more than some PTs. Its a bit of a different responsibility. There's less on the side of liability and less time and debt for schooling but you also have less freedom to treat and assess independently. If those tradeoffs work for your lifestyle and goals then it's a great choice for you.
Why not start out doing PTA first ? It's a 2 year program if you don't have your Gen-Eds or 1 year if you have Gen-Eds and most Pre-reqs. If by then you still want to go further , atleast you started off with less of debt then 6 figure one.
I ran a business. I trained clients in the morning and evening and made social media content during class. And hired 5 of my classmates to help make content and train clients I didn’t have time to train.
congrats, I have an MSc degree in exercise physiology and sports nutrition, what field of study you suggest to me for my Ph.D.? I'm from Persia and I would rather experience my Ph.D. program in the USA.
I'm surprised you got in with a 3.66 GPA. Did you have other factors in your favor? Maybe an under-represented ethnicity or a really solid volunteer resume?
That was my second time applying. I had much better essays, many more shadowing hours, work experience, and better letters of recommendation. And I was still the last person to be accepted to the class (after being number 36 or so on the waitlist). I did get into other schools like Pitt and Slippery rock straight up without the waitlist.
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Great video. I can't believe you worked 40 hours a week during PT school man, very impressive. Keep up the amazing content !
Congrats on graduating Matt! Been in a rut lately in deciding on what I want to do after graduating with a Kinesiology Degree, but you really helped me in deciding in some alternatives.
There are so many more possibilities than you can even think of right now. When I graduated with my Kines degree and got rejected to all PT schools it seemed like I couldn't figure anything out for work or career wise but within a few months of hustling and meeting people I ended up with opportunities in Personal Training, Strength and Conditioning and Corporate Fitness and had a full schedule of rewarding work with good people. Just wake up each day with a positive attitude and find ways to meet people that you can help and can help you.
I needed this video, I’ve been worried about getting into PT school for a while now. Wondering if my application and shadowing hours are enough to get into a school whenever I graduate with my undergrad. But this video quelled my doubts a lot. Thank you once again for this!!
Glad it was helpful for you! Best luck
It's been 3 years, do you still think pursuing PT is worth it? Hope you're doing well
Congrats man! I'm in PT school now and it's a tremendous accomplishment!
It's been 3 years, do you still think pursuing PT is worth it? Hope you're doing well
This dropped right before my first week of PT school, coincidence? I think not! Haha congrats again Matt! It’s kind of nice to hear somebody say PT school wasn’t so bad!!
It's been 3 years, do you still think pursuing PT is worth it? Hope you're doing well
I have been accepted into a 2 year hybrid DPT that starts soon. I'm 41 and would have to leave a security, high paying job to attend the program. I am re-thinking the PT school debt (plus living expenses -- I have a mortgage and single so no financial help) and am 85% sure I am going to drop out before classes start. I think DPT programs are just so expensive for the expected income level. I think you are right in saying that a good trainer and some of the other career options can pay just as much as a PT.. I definitely have some thinking to do!!
For me, the negative net wealth of being a DPT just wasn’t responsible for me to do especially after the pandemic and the oversaturated DPT job market. But a nursing program costs 2% the tuition at the Jr College level and makes more than a DPT. 10 years ago there was a demand for PT and schools didn’t have the leverage to charge $110K+… PTAs make just as much as well and tuition is way less. You may not need the “DPT” degree to actually do what you want to do as a career. I just didn’t see it make sense to literally be poor just to work as a PT
What did you end up doing If you don’t mind me asking.
@@JoshGonzalez93 I ended up going! I am now in my 4th week of the program. When I left my job, my first line supervisor said "received" when I gave my 2 week notice. When he spoke to me he was very fake and saying things like 'I am glad you will be happy' and 'I wish you the best' but it was not genuine.. My director never said 1 word to me. No thanks for your 18+ years of service or good luck. Nothing.. So I guess they were mad I left and I realized just how toxic the work environment really was for me. Now that I am in school, I am surrounded by professors and students who just want everyone to succeed and become great clinicians. Honestly, it is a lot of money to go back to school, but money is not everything. I was so miserable at my job. I am happy to be learning and in the end, I will be happier and will have way more intangibles than I ever had at my old job.. I am normally not a risk taker, but I am glad I took the chance. I wanted it bad enough and I found a way to make it work. :)
What hybrid program did you get accepted to if you don’t mind me asking?
@@morriganromberger9498 I was accepted into the 25 month hybrid program at Arcadia University. I was also accepted into the University of Scranton but that is was a traditional 3 year residential program. I chose the accelerated program so I can get back to the workforce sooner and have a year less of living expenses.
One consideration for current DPT students and possibly current undergrads is the student division of the APTA. You'll meet experienced DPTs, learn about legislative issues, meet vendors, see cutting edge techniques.... A true professional in an actual profession is a lifelong learner AND teacher. It's more than just going to class or showing up for your shift.
Congrats on the graduation, Matt!! Hope that whatever comes next is also full of success!!
Thank you! I really appreciate it
Sophomore in College here, and I've always been curious about PT School. Thanks
Thank you for the video👍🏼. Currently awaiting decision for PT school and you provided calming alternatives.
I remember that feeling. First time I got rejected everywhere and second time I ended up accepted to multiple top 10 programs. In both cases it worked out fine
Congratulations Matt, nice candid review, best wishes!
CONGRAULATIONS MATT!!! You motivate me
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Thank you!
Canadians really do have it better, tuition at University of Toronto is $10,000 a year. Although only Canadians can apply since it’s probably governmental funded.
Congrats Matt!!! I love and learn so much from watching your videos.
Thank you!
I think that Athletic Training is a great alternative. It is a masters degree and really specializes in working with athletes. During the AT program you learn more specifically about injury evaluation and understanding the healing process of each injury. AT's work majority with athletes but can be used inside PT clinics. You don't have to have a PT degree to work in a PT clinic. AT's also learn about working with geriatric and pediatric patients, learn about some chronic diseases and neurodegenerative disease but not as much as PTs do.
First view here. Commenting for the algorithm and also wanted to let you know that you should do more videos on sports specific training. Other suggestions would be a training approach for all-round fitness like becoming the jack of all trades and parkour would be interesting too.
Appreciate the comment for the algorithm. Definitely looking forward to filming some athletes outdoors this summer and posting some cool videos in the near future.
@@TheMovementSystem What do you think about parkour conditioning?
Can I catch you on Instagram if I have any questions related to training?
@@mianashhad9802 Sure, but I don't really know a lot about it
@@TheMovementSystem You can search videos for it and analyze it's movement patterns. Basically, a lot of running, climbing, vaulting, landing from high places etc. And remember, there is no flips or tricks on parkour. No useless movements, just the most efficient way to get from point a to point b.
Thank you for this honest review.
I’m in my first year of pt school and I can say I’m one of those ones studying all the time man neuro is no joke
Smooth sailing after the first year. Keep up the good work
you saved my "4 year" i am in Turkey, same mindset not the same problems thanks for the video
Graduated P.T. School in 2008, it cost me 40k. Some of my classmates had low 6 figure debt when they graduated. Like the content creator, I worked as a personal trainer when doing the DPT program. I had multiple personal training certifications and they helped when I took the anatomy class in the DPT program. Also Mnemonics were very helpful memorizing cranial nerves and which cranial nerves were motor, sensory or both. Example; Some say marry money, but my brother says , big b@@bs make money. The aforesaid are which ones are motor, sensory and both for the 12 cranial nerves, have fun.
This explains alot, i.e., why your explanations are research based, thorough and complete.
I'm in an accelerated program right now and there is absolutely no way someone could work 30-40 hours a week while being in this program. I wonder how different yours was than mine is.
Congratulations Matt! Im starting my semester 2 of Physio program in New Zealand. Do you have any tips on studying and acing practical exams? Love your content!
Thanks for reviewing. I have a lot of similarities as I have been doing personal training, strength and conditioning for a while. Also, I am almost done with my first year of physical therapy school. I don't think PT school is hard in the sense of the topic itself but the volume of information is stressful compared to undergraduate so I am not sure what you mean when you think PT school is easy but more kudos to you! I would like to know your study tips you had during PT school? For example, how you studied for musculoskeletal and neuro? Thanks
First year is the most challenging then it’s smooth sailing relatively. I did a lot of intense studying the day or two before the exam to be honest. I learned a lot from RUclips videos like Ninja Nerd Science especially for Neuro
Currently in undergrad at UC rn this helped a lot
this was extremely helpful. thank you so much
Congrats on graduating! If you don't mind answering, what worked best for you to be able to work and study at the same time? I'm a current SPT who would like to work and study, but still struggling to find a way to be most efficient to do so. Thanks!
To be honest I just put things off until the last minute and studied with high intensity like my life depended on it. It's definitely not for everyone, but I would sit down and learn 4-6 weeks of neuro in one evening. And really learn it not just memorize. I also didn't worry about details just really understanding the important stuff really well.
That's definitely not for me, but thanks for responding lol. Goodluck on boards!
If you have a background in exercise science, you should have known that if you were interested in physical therapy for athletes you should have gone in to Athletic Training. Athletic Training and Strength and Conditioning is where you should have focused.
Thank you for this.
Since you already a professional, I think you would be in the best position to answer this..
Is there any direct relation with sports medicine ?
Also..
What is the salary/pay like ?
Great video! I have a 3.7 GPA with 70 observation hours. Do you think that would be enough to get in?
That’s pretty good! I would think so
I had around a 3.3 and got in. You got to find ways to help u stand out in your application regardless of your gpa
Great video ✨👏👏👏👏👏👏
There’s no reason PTs shouldn’t be making 6 figures by now. Having to get/pay for that much education, it only makes sense to get paid correctly
I’m currently in an Athletic Training Masters program. Would already having a masters degree give an edge when applying to PT schools? And would the AT background make PT school easier?
Nothing will make it "easier' per say. However, having an AT background will significantly benefit you.
I have a 3.92 with my only 2 B's being in chemistry and A&P, I graduate with my exercise science in spring of next year. I also have an associates in health and fitness sciences. Should i retake those B classes before trying to apply or say eff it we ball?
Series question tho, do you think retaking anatomy and physiology play a huge factor in ur program acceptance? I have a c and c+ for both a n p 1 and 2. I feel like I should retake them…
Yes. Retake them and get an A
Thank you!!!
great video thank you
11:27 I’m sorry but the average personal trainer makes way less than a physical therapist. You might make $45/hour in rare cases, but you won’t have 40 hours a week nor the same benefits.
If you’re average then compare yourself to averages. But if you compare the top 10% of personal trainers to the top 10% of Physical Therapists they’re actually surprisingly similar. I know at least 20 personal trainers making six figures a year.
Im in the army in the moment so luckily cost wont be an issue for me since I can activate my GI Bill. Currently working on my Bachelors in Exercise Science. Any tips from anyone else that was in the military then went PT would be cool
Same here, me personal I'm going to do Personal training cuz its less school and your earning potential depends on you.
So as someone getting into the bodybuilding field and wanting to be a personal trainer, what would the best degrees/certifications be for me?
Exercise Science/ Kinesiology (they're the same thing)
I know this is old but im sitting around a 3.4 with As in AP 1 and 2, Getting my hours as an aide right now, Do you think I have a good shot I still have 4 semesters left of school
Do you work in sports physical therapy now? If so, how’d you get to that point?
Thank ya!
But medicare reimbursement cuts to PTAs... but congrats! Been following since your first video
Yea that in combination with more time requirement and cost of school may make PTA less appealing in the near future.
Is there a High chance the Ohio state university for an international student to come to physiotherapy school?
To get into DPT will I need an associates in kinesiology or a bachelor's in kinesiology?
No you just need the prerequisites. You could have a degree in business if you wanted although it wouldn't be practical since you'd need to take a lot of extra classes to meet the prerequisites
It should be a bachelorette program.
What would you say to a 30 year old with no money saved up considering applying to PT school? Did you go to school with any older students?
The oldest student I think was around 45 I believe. There was another student around 39. Of course you’ll have to consider the pros and cons, the work it will take, the time, etc. to decide if it’s right for you but 30 is definitely not too late
Do we have class online?
Depends on the school you go to
What was your GRE? I have been told by multiple people that GPA is second to GRE score. True?
I would think so. Some schools provide a minimum GRE score to be competitive with no info on GPA.
Do any PT school have military programs
I want to know after complete my 3years if i will be able to find a job or work as a PT?
I can’t speak for everywhere, but at least my classmates had no trouble finding a job right after school. I think in the USA the PT job market is very good
What are your overall thoughts on those considering PTA route over PT
Definitely shadow to make sure you like what you are getting into day to day. I think a lot of PTAs really enjoy their role. Possibly even more than some PTs. Its a bit of a different responsibility. There's less on the side of liability and less time and debt for schooling but you also have less freedom to treat and assess independently. If those tradeoffs work for your lifestyle and goals then it's a great choice for you.
@@TheMovementSystem thank you
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Do you think it’s okay to get into DPT AT 30 years old?
Why not start out doing PTA first ? It's a 2 year program if you don't have your Gen-Eds or 1 year if you have Gen-Eds and most Pre-reqs.
If by then you still want to go further , atleast you started off with less of debt then 6 figure one.
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You worked full time during PT school. How?
I ran a business. I trained clients in the morning and evening and made social media content during class. And hired 5 of my classmates to help make content and train clients I didn’t have time to train.
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Can i work as a pt after 3 years ?
congrats, I have an MSc degree in exercise physiology and sports nutrition, what field of study you suggest to me for my Ph.D.? I'm from Persia and I would rather experience my Ph.D. program in the USA.
I'm not too familiar with Ph.D. fields but I imagine there are a lot of options such as exercise physiology, nutrition, biomechanics, or neuroscience
@@TheMovementSystem tnx bro
Bro you should have applied to BG you would’ve been out of there in like 2 years
I'm surprised you got in with a 3.66 GPA. Did you have other factors in your favor? Maybe an under-represented ethnicity or a really solid volunteer resume?
That was my second time applying. I had much better essays, many more shadowing hours, work experience, and better letters of recommendation. And I was still the last person to be accepted to the class (after being number 36 or so on the waitlist). I did get into other schools like Pitt and Slippery rock straight up without the waitlist.
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hey man i got 2g of dpt wanna smoke up with me please
Which undergraduate university did you attend?
Ohio State
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That intro 😂
Editing is getting better and better week by week🔥
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Did you feel like PT School got a little easier after the first year ?
A lot easier
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