I suggest that you change the title of the video to "how to share files on a private network" because the video is pretty useful and can come in hand for many looking to do just that.
They probably will, they have clickbait titles on all their videos for the first few hours. Also even with this title it probably can be found because of the description and tags.
This video is missing an important thing: The Windows Firewall. You see, the Windows Firewall can operate in three profiles (Work, Private and Public). Most applications only request permission for incoming network access for "Work" and "Private". If you select "No" while joining a strange network, your firewalls active profile will be "Public", which means other users in that network can not interact with the most or even any application on your computer (and of course your file share). This increases security significantly, since remote code execution attacks and such stuff wont work, because the firewall rejects every incoming connection.
What's baffling though is that he just gave everyone on his network access to his personal blackmail folder… Essentially shooting himself in the foot for getting blackmailed in the near future :P This whole thing was like a joke sandwich with multiple joke toppings! Brilliant
I don't know about win 95, never drilled down that deep, but high resolution displays have shown how so many feature panels haven't been updated in years, the scaling just doesn't exist
@@hecko-yes Well, Windows 10 (NT 6.4) is based on OS/2, not Windows 3x and DOS. The look came from NT 3.51, which exactly looked like windows 3.1, but was based on NT (It also had Long File Name Support we knew today since Windows 95).
Tongue readers should be the next big thing, we'd have better security. My hope is someone will develop a reader with a decent laser to really ensure that it is correct even if we need to maybe take off a layer to be sure (if you get this reference you are amazing and probably old)
I always say "no", even at home. But the "Settings" in Windows 10 is REALLY a headache - there's no way to figure out how to set up things with the same ease as the Control Panel has.
You can still go to "Control Panel" in Windows 10 if that helps. Just go to an explorer window and literally write "Control Panel" in the address bar. It's a bit hidden...
do you really want that? Sure I can make one but the video would be so much like I frigging knew it and I would get booed to hell. it would he worse for linus. I believe there are a lot of ccna/ccnp courses available on RUclips
So, basically: -Private network = if you live alone -Public network = if you live with family/friends and don't want them to see your embarrassingly-large collection of Linus memes over LAN
Hey just wanted to say. Your videos are often covering very basics, but I'd say this one is vastly more useful than average! Like, don't be apologetic at 3:45 - this is genuinely helpful. As the guy who usually sets up SFTP for everyone, I'm happy you gave me a great resource to point people at when they just need some local file sharing - it always makes me sad when they use their USB (2.0...) sticks instead.
Well I just discovered EXACTLY THIS last week when I was trying to find a smarter way to share files at home than sharing it via email, bluetooth or clouds!!! Using a network is ingenious! 😀
Would like to see LTT do a video on a computer build geared to the first time computer builder. Been watching LTT for months now and have learned a lot. Would like to start my own build but not quite comfortable yet. Thanks
When Windows 7 was released, back in my Geek Squad days, I had to set up home networks all the time, and I always hated having to fight with homegroups when setting up file sharing. It was always much easier to just set up file sharing the traditional way. I am so glad that homegroups is gone.
If you click NO, it will screw with some video games online connectivity. If you are at home, always use yes....if you are a gamer at least. I tested this and doing so stopped dropping my connection randomly in some games. Anyhow, Linus, good video, it teaches people every day things!
you have no idea that i have been unable to figure out how to share my hard drive for my family and this video explained it just like that, thanks guys
😂I recall using this in high school to share movie files, game files and music files during classes with my friends at school. I would just transfer all the files I wanted to share in my public folder. IIRC, that won't need user credentials or maybe it needed but still. Flash drives were not allowed to be used during lectures. And yeah, I was one of the few people who used Homegroup (Windows 8) to manage who had access to the files. Surprised to see it removed on some feature versions of Windows 10
Nostalgia! I've managed my own network cafe for 15 years and formatted my PC and done all these setups thousands of time. Though I am out of all these for a long time, I am quite sure my muscle memory is intact.
Like many such features in Windows, you can still find remnants around that work to one degree or another, but not the full feature set. Like Windows Media Center. It's gone, but I still have SOME of the features on my W10 PC because they are still there from when it was Windows 7. Still can't use it like I should be able to, though.
Its for backward compatiblity with windows 7. Also, the Windows "Home Group" itself is just a preset network settings and users default group for peer to peer networking. Even though it is missing, you can renable it to some degree via the local group policy and services in windows 10.
it's partially still there because that particular PC has been upgraded to Windows 10 from Windows 7 via the Media creation tool , rather than being a Windows 10 PC from the start
Windows file sharing is vague af, and doesnt work for me for some reason, i cant just look for computers, i have to add a network location and type in the ip adress
Thats correct. MS removed this default setting in windows to improve security in a peer to peer home network. You can renable it via windows 10 services.
Funnily enough, the most stable and usable "Windows" network share for me has been the one on my Raspberry Pi running Ubuntu. The reverse-engineered open source "Samba" software is just so much simpler to configure. The only issue is that PCs on the network don't automatically see the share in the network view. But that is also easily fixed by downloading some code from GitHub and running an install script. It sounds complicated, but it's just copy/pasting a few commands. Takes maybe 5 minutes in total. It's a shame Windows couldn't be that easy. And meanwhile Apple has airdrop. Completely different of course, but also really handy to quickly copy a file...
And I think it got worse with the Microsoft Account integration. For the average user is more secure and convenient, but trying to privately share a folder now is way more of a hassle than before. Because of this integration, the Windows see accounts as your email address instead of the name and it can get confusing, for example, if I need to share a folder just with my sister, I cant create a user with the same name on my machine and expect her to access with a password I created, I have to remember her email address for her to have access to my folder.
My issue with homegroup is that it never worked well if there were machines using different versions of Windows on the same network, but I liked the idea of just locking folders and access behind a pin code instead of creating usernames or worse, remembering email addresses to share on the local network
This video is helpful for most people but it would be good if you could do a video which deep dives into the actual difference. Does this stop services, do pings still work, what is the actual process Windows goes through etc etc?
You can just click on Properties under the name of your connected network to access the right setting page though I don't know since when this is the case (it seems nonsensical that this wouldn't be there but this is Windows so...).
One thing too thats hella useful. If you make an account on the host computer that has the same login username and pass as a person you want to share it tos windows login. Then set the permissions for the folder to only that person. They wont have to enter the username and pass to connect to the folder. I set my home file server up like this with a private folder for each family member that only they can access then mapped it as network drives in Computer on their PCs so its easy for them without needing any passwords or other crap for them to do.
Speaking of printers, has LMG *ever* done a review roundup of printers? With so many people working from home, I'm sure a lot of people would appreciate it. Also I was a printer technician in college and I just want someone else to hate on the HP LaserJet P4015s and express their undying love for the P600 n602s.
I want to see a video on why Windows consistently asks me what app I want to use to open certain files. So I tell it what app I want to use and everything is fine, then a couple of weeks later, it's back, asking me again what I want to use, so freaking annoying!
Because every update Microsoft resets your defaults to try to fool you into using their inferior, built in browser or programs instead of the things you downloaded. Annoying to be sure.
@@KofolaDealer Newer version is better because it's essentially Chrome. Old version was a joke. New version spies on you the same as Chrome does, just sends all that telemetry to Microsoft instead of Google. Firefox is the only choice for people who care even a little about not having everybody sold your browsing data.
I've been using this for such a long time.. it's extremely handy to have at home if you have multiple devices or if you want family to be able to access certain folders/files... i.e. movies.
Specifically it sets the network location to public or private, which affects firewall rules. For example if you have a local server running which only has a incoming exception in the firewall for the private profile, it won't be available if you select "no" in that dialog as it sets the network location to public. Note that many installers which modify the Windows firewall just blindly add exceptions for both profiles. Heck, even RDP gets enabled for both profiles by default if you enable RDP to your workstation. The public profile *may* also block incoming ICMPv4 pings also, I can't recall.
I had no idea this channel existed till now. I’m much more into these types of videos instead of, “WATCH AS WE BUILD BIG EXPENSIVE GAMING COMPUTER FOR THE 20000TH TIME!”
I generally create a folder called "inbox" on computers, and share that with read-write permissions. It's a lot simpler and safer to only have one folder exposed than sharing random folders.
2:30 be aware that this share feature has a bug, it makes the users folder shared too Don't forget to check the folders you are sharing insine Network -> YourComputerName Example: if you want to share a folder "memes" inside your desktop, after you are done, if you check the folders shared on your PC, you will see "memes" and the "users" folder, which is pretty dangerous
thats correct, but don't just the folder structures go there like the actual files are not there right? on my pc they are all empty. so maybe is a windows problem of having to share the entire path but it still don't share the other files just the folder structure? im not sure if im getting what you said ig ot worried when i read but in my pc its all empty folders just the files i acctualy shared there.
@@gabrielandy9272 you can see in Network, where you see the devices in your local network, click on your PC and you will see what you are sharing. When I mentioned that bug I meant that if you make a folder that is inside your user folder (eg desktop folder) it will make the folder Users shared, everything inside will also be shared. You have to go to local disk and right click Users folder and unshare it
Me: I want these files to be available for everyone. Windows: Nope. Only for specific people. Me: OK. Any predefined groups of people? Windows: Yeah, how about "Everyone" option?
By default, the token that is created for anonymous connections does not include the Everyone SID. Therefore, permissions that are assigned to the Everyone group do not apply to anonymous users. “Everyone” means everyone who is authenticated not “anybody”.
1:31 I like this one. But allow me to explain exactly why. The thing is that in order to share files via the Homegroup, both you and your partner (or the person you're sharing media with) *must* have the *exact same* version of windows for you to even be discovered, and worst of all, even if you were discovered, the transfers were ultimately slow and there was no limit to allowing your partner(s) into your public documents.
I have got one question, maybe someone can help. If I enable sharing for a folder, but haven´t added another user to my laptop, so I just have to log in to my account, when logging in form another device. When I try my laptop-profiles username (displayed when selected who to share with, or the one shown in the settings) it doesn´t work. Only when I use the username displayed under the "net user" command it works. How comes? In addition to that the Password isn´t the laptop-profiles ones (because it is secured via fingerprint and a pin and even if I set a password it doesn´t work) and it isn´t the password of my microsoft account. Rather it is one that I had (as my password manager told me) previously either used as the password for a desktop pc, or an old microsoft account password. Any ideas why, it´s pretty anoying, especially while trying to initially solve the problem. And now for remembering passwords.
It's because Microsoft sets up a local user on Windows 10 based around your Microsoft account info. It does a lot of work to hide that fact from you but that's exactly how logging in with a Microsoft account works. To get around this you have to create a local only Windows account. Or just remember what your cryptic username is once you find it and use that from now on. Still not as easy as it was in Windows 7 to authenticate.
@@compmanio36 Thank you, now I understand the password-problem. Is there a way to fix it? And I figured the "net user" thing out in the meantime. Just to let everyone unaware know: If you don´t make a local account first, the "secret" username will be taken from the first five characters of your email adress.
Would it hurt anything if I just changed the password and username via the command prompt? Because i don´t want to shift my entire files over to a new local user.
It'll break all your Microsoft account integration, I'd assume. What I'd do is create a local account separately and use that for LAN authentication to all the shares you're trying to get into.
Wow, I wish I knew this when I was still using Windows10.... Other than lame security, it also has a shit UI/UX design. Glad I'm on Manjaro with Plasma Desktop now.
Its funny that "Private" means "Open this computer to sharing" and "Public" means "Lock Down everything, Refuse Outside Connection" Because Public/Private refer to the network type, and not the computer's status on the network edit: "and besides printer ink is expensive" that made me crack too :D
You forgot to mention that the option you choose selects not only if the network is public or private, but firewall rules are applied to these selections as well (for example icmp, aka. echo pinging is enabled or not).
....also, it changes the zone assigned to the Windows Firewall, which depending on the rules created for each zone, it will deny (...or allow) certain protocols and ports, like ICMP(ping). Good video Linus!
The level of intelligence to consider what information is being shared with us and how to make us engaged and interested is really impressive. We appreciate what you do Linus
I used to use Homegroup for my home desktop to talk to my work laptop. When they did away with it only one of the computers seemed to know it wasn't up and running. The mess of trying to set up the new network thing was such a headache with each computer expecting different stuff that I did all my transfers with a USB stick or Dropbox after that. I can't be bothered to try it all again.
The one thing this video didn't say is that windows has a "Nearby Share" feature that allows you to share files with nearby Windows machines, and it gets a considerable speed increase when you click "Yes" to that question, since it can run over WiFi instead of Bluetooth.
This leaves your network quite wide open. If you do this a flush or reset of the router perhaps would be great and a change of encryption key so that everyone previously connected will have to reauthenticate. This seems sorta overboard but how many of your friends have used your wifi with their phones? Because of this sharing change, any devices left attached or attach in the future can access your stuff even a guest at your place or a persistent hack. Less common but quite easy is a uPnP hack and the list goes on. If you choose private it would be best in my opinion to activate the guest feature of your router ( most have this in some form ) and have your friends and neighbours use the guest login rather than the same one you are using. This should more or less separate your private open network from the public whatever network. Pretty easy to do really for the few minutes it takes and for free!
i did this network sharing in my office and everybody thinks im an IT expert now. not knowingly our it guys actually disabled that to every offices because surprisingly we all share a single network.
In order how it to look like that, you have to unpin all programs from the taskbar. Then right click the taskbar and click "taskbar settings" scroll down a little bit and you should see "combine taskbar buttons" click the drop-down box and select "never". All your running programs will now have labels instead of the icons
You explain to me why domain servers will default back to private or even public networks after a restart on occasion and I'll be impressed. This bug is the bane of my damned existence being a sysadmin. So many times I reboot after an update or something simple and users start screaming they can't access resources, just to find the damn NIC has been set as a public network out of the blue, despite still being joined to the domain.
All good, but you miss a detail, this is not only for File Sharing and Printing. Either response the user selects Yes or Not. Is going to apply Public or Private profile to the Firewall. Each profile has different rules... Public being the most restrictive. There's a service called Network Location Awareness which is in charge of determine if you are on domain network or not.
You could start an entire new channel dedicated to 'why Windows does X', and have a never-ending supply of content.
Linus windows tips
aka FlyTech videos
"Why windows updates without my consent"
@@SafirAksel Only way I've found to turn that nonsense off is through gpedit.
@@SafirAksel security updates, mainly
I suggest that you change the title of the video to "how to share files on a private network" because the video is pretty useful and can come in hand for many looking to do just that.
They probably will, they have clickbait titles on all their videos for the first few hours. Also even with this title it probably can be found because of the description and tags.
sadly LTT is more into clickbaits than offering actual strightforward tips
Yeah, but this is also pretty useful. I always wanted to know what the message was about but i don't care that much about file sharing in the network.
Genius Badger not really. They gave pretty straight forward points in this vid
agreed
This video is missing an important thing: The Windows Firewall.
You see, the Windows Firewall can operate in three profiles (Work, Private and Public). Most applications only request permission for incoming network access for "Work" and "Private". If you select "No" while joining a strange network, your firewalls active profile will be "Public", which means other users in that network can not interact with the most or even any application on your computer (and of course your file share). This increases security significantly, since remote code execution attacks and such stuff wont work, because the firewall rejects every incoming connection.
i can confirm this after setting up my printer rn one was set to private one to public but other then that they had same settings
Also if you're trying to game online, forget it
Yes they can't ping my PC
@@yaago if im tryna game online i should have it on private or public with network discovery off
Linus: Who wrote that joke?
Also Linus thinking to himself: Haha, I did, suckers.
Except it was written by Jon.
Please report the spam
@@ahmir5798 yh it's everywhere, also on other videos...
Champion Games sadly it’s very easy to make a new account if it gets banned.
Reported shit
The meme folder at 1:43 is absolutely glorious.
What's baffling though is that he just gave everyone on his network access to his personal blackmail folder… Essentially shooting himself in the foot for getting blackmailed in the near future :P
This whole thing was like a joke sandwich with multiple joke toppings! Brilliant
Got a chuckle out of me
It's beautiful, I've been looking at it for 5 hours now
Memes... How can I get that folder
I want context, the photo with Yvonne.
I literally ask myself this question everyday.
welcome to the club.... ☺️
So it would be a... burning question for you... get it?
I ask my self why windows must ask you so many questions.
@@kennysboat4432 windows is unaware of our godly powers, so it asks questions to understand
😂😂😂😂
peace
The deeper you go into Windows 10 menus the farther in time you get, some menus look straight out of Win95
I don't know about win 95, never drilled down that deep, but high resolution displays have shown how so many feature panels haven't been updated in years, the scaling just doesn't exist
Control panel vs Normal settings
you can get down to windows 3.1 if you know where to look ruclips.net/video/bC6tngl0PTI/видео.html
@@hecko-yes Well, Windows 10 (NT 6.4) is based on OS/2, not Windows 3x and DOS. The look came from NT 3.51, which exactly looked like windows 3.1, but was based on NT (It also had Long File Name Support we knew today since Windows 95).
@@hecko-yes I already watched that video before.
Fun Fact: Like fingerprints, everyone's tongue print is different.
So is the anal splinters print. The more you know.
@@jianchengzhou3498 so are your nose hairs
Dickhead prints are also
Tongue readers should be the next big thing, we'd have better security. My hope is someone will develop a reader with a decent laser to really ensure that it is correct even if we need to maybe take off a layer to be sure (if you get this reference you are amazing and probably old)
Another FUN FACT: Like your fingerprint, everyone's ear 👂 print is different...
I always say "no", even at home.
But the "Settings" in Windows 10 is REALLY a headache - there's no way to figure out how to set up things with the same ease as the Control Panel has.
classic windows 10 with literally 2 settings apps and one is like a cheap knockoff version of the other
@@gunswinger3110 actually there's three
You can still go to "Control Panel" in Windows 10 if that helps. Just go to an explorer window and literally write "Control Panel" in the address bar.
It's a bit hidden...
I personnaly can't use Win10 or 8.1 without Classic Shell first installed asap after a fresh format. Trust me it will change ur life.
@@PanzerIV88 I'm using Open Shell, works fine for me.
"memes and blackmail" looks legit
especially file 'thicc.webp'
waifux5 WEEB BAIT EFFECTIVE
"Tarambe"
That's a nice name for your printer, Taran
Your chroma background got really good over the years. Well done.
@RITAS ! SUPER HOT GIRL I will report you
Do an Episode explaining how to create a network like this in detail for your home or small office... please
Yes, that sure would be helpful
do you really want that? Sure I can make one but the video would be so much like I frigging knew it and I would get booed to hell. it would he worse for linus. I believe there are a lot of ccna/ccnp courses available on RUclips
Out of all the password you could have had.
Dolphins was what you chose.
Just epic.
The funny thing is im finding this stuff until Techquickie uploaded this video , you're a life saver....
So, basically:
-Private network = if you live alone
-Public network = if you live with family/friends and don't want them to see your embarrassingly-large collection of Linus memes over LAN
well no, you need to manually share the folder.
@@L2002 Well, of course, but that doesn't sound nearly as funny, now does it?
Hey just wanted to say. Your videos are often covering very basics, but I'd say this one is vastly more useful than average! Like, don't be apologetic at 3:45 - this is genuinely helpful. As the guy who usually sets up SFTP for everyone, I'm happy you gave me a great resource to point people at when they just need some local file sharing - it always makes me sad when they use their USB (2.0...) sticks instead.
Well I just discovered EXACTLY THIS last week when I was trying to find a smarter way to share files at home than sharing it via email, bluetooth or clouds!!!
Using a network is ingenious! 😀
And funnily enough, this has been around in every Windows version since like 1993...
I blame Microsoft for making sharing so painful that people forgot what a network was
@@RandomBrick13 agreed lol
It’s an old feature. Once you know you know. It wouldn’t be advertised.
I found putty to be a much easier option for moving files between computers
Would like to see LTT do a video on a computer build geared to the first time computer builder. Been watching LTT for months now and have learned a lot. Would like to start my own build but not quite comfortable yet. Thanks
Well this helps to explain why the printer at one of the neighborhood libraries comes up as "Communal Outhouse".
This is one of the better explanations I have seen on this topic. More like this please
I always wondered if that was like sharing files or something
Same me too
When Windows 7 was released, back in my Geek Squad days, I had to set up home networks all the time, and I always hated having to fight with homegroups when setting up file sharing. It was always much easier to just set up file sharing the traditional way. I am so glad that homegroups is gone.
Damn I actually learnt something today 🤔🤔
Thot bots are killin here
I've seen this prompt probably a 1000 times and never know what to do. Thanks!
Haven't watched the video, but I hope it has something to do with submarine sonars
it does!
It does bro
IM SORRY
If you click NO, it will screw with some video games online connectivity. If you are at home, always use yes....if you are a gamer at least. I tested this and doing so stopped dropping my connection randomly in some games. Anyhow, Linus, good video, it teaches people every day things!
"More advanced and secure ways of sharing files" - me literally sending a file or photo to myself on facebook...
you have no idea that i have been unable to figure out how to share my hard drive for my family and this video explained it just like that, thanks guys
😂I recall using this in high school to share movie files, game files and music files during classes with my friends at school. I would just transfer all the files I wanted to share in my public folder. IIRC, that won't need user credentials or maybe it needed but still. Flash drives were not allowed to be used during lectures. And yeah, I was one of the few people who used Homegroup (Windows 8) to manage who had access to the files. Surprised to see it removed on some feature versions of Windows 10
Nostalgia! I've managed my own network cafe for 15 years and formatted my PC and done all these setups thousands of time. Though I am out of all these for a long time, I am quite sure my muscle memory is intact.
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This video is a godsend, I've been asking myself how to share files over the LAN for years
Linus says homegroup got axed and then shows "share with homegroup" in the next scene. Which one is it!
Lol
Like many such features in Windows, you can still find remnants around that work to one degree or another, but not the full feature set.
Like Windows Media Center. It's gone, but I still have SOME of the features on my W10 PC because they are still there from when it was Windows 7. Still can't use it like I should be able to, though.
Its for backward compatiblity with windows 7. Also, the Windows "Home Group" itself is just a preset network settings and users default group for peer to peer networking. Even though it is missing, you can renable it to some degree via the local group policy and services in windows 10.
it's partially still there because that particular PC has been upgraded to Windows 10 from Windows 7 via the Media creation tool , rather than being a Windows 10 PC from the start
@@maskedredstonerproz or an older build of windows 10
2:25 glad to hear I'm not the only person who names files like this
Windows file sharing is vague af, and doesnt work for me for some reason, i cant just look for computers, i have to add a network location and type in the ip adress
Thats correct. MS removed this default setting in windows to improve security in a peer to peer home network. You can renable it via windows 10 services.
Funnily enough, the most stable and usable "Windows" network share for me has been the one on my Raspberry Pi running Ubuntu. The reverse-engineered open source "Samba" software is just so much simpler to configure. The only issue is that PCs on the network don't automatically see the share in the network view. But that is also easily fixed by downloading some code from GitHub and running an install script. It sounds complicated, but it's just copy/pasting a few commands. Takes maybe 5 minutes in total.
It's a shame Windows couldn't be that easy. And meanwhile Apple has airdrop. Completely different of course, but also really handy to quickly copy a file...
And I think it got worse with the Microsoft Account integration. For the average user is more secure and convenient, but trying to privately share a folder now is way more of a hassle than before. Because of this integration, the Windows see accounts as your email address instead of the name and it can get confusing, for example, if I need to share a folder just with my sister, I cant create a user with the same name on my machine and expect her to access with a password I created, I have to remember her email address for her to have access to my folder.
My issue with homegroup is that it never worked well if there were machines using different versions of Windows on the same network, but I liked the idea of just locking folders and access behind a pin code instead of creating usernames or worse, remembering email addresses to share on the local network
This video is helpful for most people but it would be good if you could do a video which deep dives into the actual difference.
Does this stop services, do pings still work, what is the actual process Windows goes through etc etc?
wish I've seen it an hour ago, while I was facing some sharing issues in the office earlier today
@@Chris-rg6nm 😁😜😈
And yet you never know how the RUclips algorithm knew that you needed to see this video.
It might not have worked either way. Some companies disable the feature and if the computers are on different subnets, it won't work.
Never figured out what that popup meant all these years. This is so useful.
Thnx!
We really need a episode where Linus show us what's inside that MEMES folder.
Thanks for filling me in on this. Wonderful video keep on kicking
I always new what this did, but I could never find the setting to turn it back on if you accidentally clicked no. Thanks Linus!
You can just click on Properties under the name of your connected network to access the right setting page though I don't know since when this is the case (it seems nonsensical that this wouldn't be there but this is Windows so...).
One thing too thats hella useful. If you make an account on the host computer that has the same login username and pass as a person you want to share it tos windows login. Then set the permissions for the folder to only that person. They wont have to enter the username and pass to connect to the folder. I set my home file server up like this with a private folder for each family member that only they can access then mapped it as network drives in Computer on their PCs so its easy for them without needing any passwords or other crap for them to do.
Petition to make video title to: how to share files on a private network"
Speaking of printers, has LMG *ever* done a review roundup of printers? With so many people working from home, I'm sure a lot of people would appreciate it.
Also I was a printer technician in college and I just want someone else to hate on the HP LaserJet P4015s and express their undying love for the P600 n602s.
0:30 two mouse clicks < So diffficult
Difficult as in difficult to locate, not difficult to access. If you don't know where to look it can take a long time to find it.
this explaination deserves my 9/10 rating.
windows 10 home users only have limited access to this
Earliest I’ve ever been for a LMG video, no I don’t need a medal thank you. Still appreciating this constant flow of content, thanks Linus and team!!
OMG thank you so much.... my whole life I thought it was "metal" , "medal" as in medallion is..... 🤯 I wish I was joking.
joel henderson hey we all learn something new everyday
Those clicks in the demonstration are perfectly timed 👌
"MEMES and blackmail"
-linus 2020
@The Wise Wan :3 just report
I want to see a video on why Windows consistently asks me what app I want to use to open certain files. So I tell it what app I want to use and everything is fine, then a couple of weeks later, it's back, asking me again what I want to use, so freaking annoying!
Because every update Microsoft resets your defaults to try to fool you into using their inferior, built in browser or programs instead of the things you downloaded. Annoying to be sure.
@@compmanio36 Edge isn't bad
@@KofolaDealer Newer version is better because it's essentially Chrome. Old version was a joke. New version spies on you the same as Chrome does, just sends all that telemetry to Microsoft instead of Google. Firefox is the only choice for people who care even a little about not having everybody sold your browsing data.
@@compmanio36 use Waterfox instead now firefox sends data such as your default browser, what apps you use, etc to Mozilla
It's called update rape. And no matter how many times you shower you still feel dirty. You can Thank Gill Bates.
I've been using this for such a long time.. it's extremely handy to have at home if you have multiple devices or if you want family to be able to access certain folders/files... i.e. movies.
1:15
You really know you were nailing it on the first date if she let's you into her private....
...wifi at home! 😏
very funny bro
Specifically it sets the network location to public or private, which affects firewall rules.
For example if you have a local server running which only has a incoming exception in the firewall for the private profile, it won't be available if you select "no" in that dialog as it sets the network location to public.
Note that many installers which modify the Windows firewall just blindly add exceptions for both profiles.
Heck, even RDP gets enabled for both profiles by default if you enable RDP to your workstation.
The public profile *may* also block incoming ICMPv4 pings also, I can't recall.
By default ICMP is blocked on public networks, yes. As it should be. Easy to ping flood your box if there's a malicious actor on the same network.
Last time I was this early linus syill had that lovely baby face
Was using computers for years and never understood knew these things. Thanks!!!!!
I have never used the features shown in this video EVER in my life
I had no idea this channel existed till now. I’m much more into these types of videos instead of, “WATCH AS WE BUILD BIG EXPENSIVE GAMING COMPUTER FOR THE 20000TH TIME!”
This has been a thing since windows 95. I've been using it since 1995. Why am I still watching this video? Oh well.
This video screams ' Content We Never Asked For But Always Needed'
Interesting. It took this vid for me to finally get used to the beard
I generally create a folder called "inbox" on computers, and share that with read-write permissions.
It's a lot simpler and safer to only have one folder exposed than sharing random folders.
yeah I want security issues to allow
you can just rename a file in recycle bin with WSL (Windows Subsystem for Linux) to see data that they're outside of recycle bin's memory location
2:30 be aware that this share feature has a bug, it makes the users folder shared too
Don't forget to check the folders you are sharing insine Network -> YourComputerName
Example: if you want to share a folder "memes" inside your desktop, after you are done, if you check the folders shared on your PC, you will see "memes" and the "users" folder, which is pretty dangerous
thats correct, but don't just the folder structures go there like the actual files are not there right? on my pc they are all empty. so maybe is a windows problem of having to share the entire path but it still don't share the other files just the folder structure?
im not sure if im getting what you said ig ot worried when i read but in my pc its all empty folders just the files i acctualy shared there.
@@gabrielandy9272 you can see in Network, where you see the devices in your local network, click on your PC and you will see what you are sharing. When I mentioned that bug I meant that if you make a folder that is inside your user folder (eg desktop folder) it will make the folder Users shared, everything inside will also be shared. You have to go to local disk and right click Users folder and unshare it
Me: I want these files to be available for everyone.
Windows: Nope. Only for specific people.
Me: OK. Any predefined groups of people?
Windows: Yeah, how about "Everyone" option?
By default, the token that is created for anonymous connections does not include the Everyone SID. Therefore, permissions that are assigned to the Everyone group do not apply to anonymous users.
“Everyone” means everyone who is authenticated not “anybody”.
Question that i ask myself but never bother to find out the answer. I love this kind of videos!
So Nobody is gonna talk about that "Connect automatically" which never connects automatically?
1:31 I like this one. But allow me to explain exactly why. The thing is that in order to share files via the Homegroup, both you and your partner (or the person you're sharing media with) *must* have the *exact same* version of windows for you to even be discovered, and worst of all, even if you were discovered, the transfers were ultimately slow and there was no limit to allowing your partner(s) into your public documents.
I changed this comment so that no one knows what the comments mean
Wise words
I will watch your career with great interest
@@panzerofthelake4460 lmao
Oh, take this vaccine and you'll have plenty of Internet.
Better why does SPECTRUM in S.E. Wisconsin charg $74.05/mo. Just for Internet no phone or cable.
@@HoundDogMech damn, really, it's that expensive?
Every new computer should have this video.
I have got one question, maybe someone can help. If I enable sharing for a folder, but haven´t added another user to my laptop, so I just have to log in to my account, when logging in form another device. When I try my laptop-profiles username (displayed when selected who to share with, or the one shown in the settings) it doesn´t work. Only when I use the username displayed under the "net user" command it works. How comes?
In addition to that the Password isn´t the laptop-profiles ones (because it is secured via fingerprint and a pin and even if I set a password it doesn´t work) and it isn´t the password of my microsoft account. Rather it is one that I had (as my password manager told me) previously either used as the password for a desktop pc, or an old microsoft account password.
Any ideas why, it´s pretty anoying, especially while trying to initially solve the problem. And now for remembering passwords.
I´ve got the same problem :(
It's because Microsoft sets up a local user on Windows 10 based around your Microsoft account info. It does a lot of work to hide that fact from you but that's exactly how logging in with a Microsoft account works. To get around this you have to create a local only Windows account.
Or just remember what your cryptic username is once you find it and use that from now on. Still not as easy as it was in Windows 7 to authenticate.
@@compmanio36 Thank you, now I understand the password-problem. Is there a way to fix it? And I figured the "net user" thing out in the meantime. Just to let everyone unaware know: If you don´t make a local account first, the "secret" username will be taken from the first five characters of your email adress.
Would it hurt anything if I just changed the password and username via the command prompt? Because i don´t want to shift my entire files over to a new local user.
It'll break all your Microsoft account integration, I'd assume. What I'd do is create a local account separately and use that for LAN authentication to all the shares you're trying to get into.
Just got the new Pulseway ad (the one where he addresses the viewer) and I just gotta say. Linus am I proud.
yea
You got me I was thinking about this irritating question today🎉🎉🎉
Wow, I wish I knew this when I was still using Windows10.... Other than lame security, it also has a shit UI/UX design.
Glad I'm on Manjaro with Plasma Desktop now.
My man!
Good choice!! Plasma is so slick!
I use Arch btw
Hows the frame rates in all the AAA games on that platform?
@@TJ.85 I don't game a lot on linux, but csgo, dota2, and doom works like a charm
Its funny that "Private" means "Open this computer to sharing"
and "Public" means "Lock Down everything, Refuse Outside Connection"
Because Public/Private refer to the network type, and not the computer's status on the network
edit: "and besides printer ink is expensive" that made me crack too :D
It’s asking if it’s a private or public network, it’s not making any inference to the PC itself.
Fact: no one cares if ur first
I hate those people.
Same and I always give them a dislike just not sure why it doesn't show dislikes from other people
You forgot to mention that the option you choose selects not only if the network is public or private, but firewall rules are applied to these selections as well (for example icmp, aka. echo pinging is enabled or not).
Thanks, you helped me figure out how to properly create a folder to share files across my local network to all of my devices.
....also, it changes the zone assigned to the Windows Firewall, which depending on the rules created for each zone, it will deny (...or allow) certain protocols and ports, like ICMP(ping). Good video Linus!
The level of intelligence to consider what information is being shared with us and how to make us engaged and interested is really impressive. We appreciate what you do Linus
I used to use Homegroup for my home desktop to talk to my work laptop. When they did away with it only one of the computers seemed to know it wasn't up and running. The mess of trying to set up the new network thing was such a headache with each computer expecting different stuff that I did all my transfers with a USB stick or Dropbox after that. I can't be bothered to try it all again.
The one thing this video didn't say is that windows has a "Nearby Share" feature that allows you to share files with nearby Windows machines, and it gets a considerable speed increase when you click "Yes" to that question, since it can run over WiFi instead of Bluetooth.
This leaves your network quite wide open. If you do this a flush or reset of the router perhaps would be great and a change of encryption key so that everyone previously connected will have to reauthenticate.
This seems sorta overboard but how many of your friends have used your wifi with their phones?
Because of this sharing change, any devices left attached or attach in the future can access your stuff even a guest at your place or a persistent hack. Less common but quite easy is a uPnP hack and the list goes on.
If you choose private it would be best in my opinion to activate the guest feature of your router ( most have this in some form ) and have your friends and neighbours use the guest login rather than the same one you are using.
This should more or less separate your private open network from the public whatever network. Pretty easy to do really for the few minutes it takes and for free!
i did this network sharing in my office and everybody thinks im an IT expert now. not knowingly our it guys actually disabled that to every offices because surprisingly we all share a single network.
Did Linus stutter at 1:30? Windows doesn’t make WHAT super obvious??
2:30 love the name of the folder
Make a video on how to set windows 10 mail up using SMTP server.
Today I learned that I can instant save a image directly from browser. Thanks Linus!
Does anyone know how to get the windows 10 taskbar to look like it does at 3:00?
In order how it to look like that, you have to unpin all programs from the taskbar. Then right click the taskbar and click "taskbar settings" scroll down a little bit and you should see "combine taskbar buttons" click the drop-down box and select "never". All your running programs will now have labels instead of the icons
We definitely DID use this! Granted it was the Windows 95/98 era. File sharing wasn't that easy back then xD
I needed this today and YO it's here. Great video
I was LITERALLY just looking for something like this to share files between my desktop and laptop more easily.
You explain to me why domain servers will default back to private or even public networks after a restart on occasion and I'll be impressed. This bug is the bane of my damned existence being a sysadmin. So many times I reboot after an update or something simple and users start screaming they can't access resources, just to find the damn NIC has been set as a public network out of the blue, despite still being joined to the domain.
More videos like this please I'm sure there's alot of things on windows that can be useful but don't have the time to discover on our own
I literally got my PC today and was wondering what it was and Linus uploads,great!
All good, but you miss a detail, this is not only for File Sharing and Printing. Either response the user selects Yes or Not. Is going to apply Public or Private profile to the Firewall. Each profile has different rules... Public being the most restrictive.
There's a service called Network Location Awareness which is in charge of determine if you are on domain network or not.
Discord
Finally I can get by that login credentials issue. Thanks
Love this format mixing a bit of tutorial with facts ....keep them coming
"Memes and Blackmail" Okay, that's pure gold.