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Using the MSI MPG Z790 EDGE TI MAX WIFI, can you run a GPU at 16x and a M.2 gen. 5 NVMe? If so, what ports do you use? Thank you for the help...this could be a banger mobo if true!
Great video! I have an MSI MPG Edge WiFi DDR4 from last year running a 13700K. One of the interesting things that isn't mentioned here is the PCI-e slot wiring. The top end Ace Max has the two upper Gen 5.0 slots that are configured for bifurcation directly to the CPU. This is reinforced in the user manual, which has specific instructions for multi-GPU setups. So a second GPU will drop the top slot to 5.0x8. On the other hand (I haven't checked the Tomahawk in a while), the other two boards have x16 size slots, but the second x16 slot only supports x4 wiring (4.0x4), and that is via the chipset, and not the CPU. I only know this boring information, as I was wanted to have a second GPU on my current MPG Edge, on the lower x16 slot.
Glad you pointed out that these board manufacturers run the power levels at levels that are not 'sane'. Haven't seen any other RUclipsrs talk about this even when saying "the cpu runs hot, it might burn your house down", claiming it is Intel's ptoblems. lol.
It's the mark of a great video when the reaction is "More!" As with the AMD video, I would have liked to have seen you discuss and demonstrate the expandability of these boards by actually plugging in other cards (10 GbE and video capture being the obvious ones). With the Max board can you plug your GPU into the second X16 slot and plug - say - a 4x M.2 riser board into the slot closest to the CPU and have both fully work? But I appreciate you have only so much time. Keep up the good work.
Personally, i think that both AMD and Intel need to enforce base performance settings in the bios with their motherboard venders. Then on unlocked overclockable CPU's, establish exactly what voids CPU warranty and set fused options in the CPU's so that if overlocking is done, the fuses are cut which will simplify warranty claims. Overclocking is an "At-will" process and motherboard makers are essentially forcing it on everyone which in a roundabout way; they are voiding your warranty for you which happily AMD and intel and standing behind their CPU's. I'm totally for some level of user tuning and it should be allowed without voiding warranties. However, there's a point where it should and personally, modifying voltages such over-volt or under-volt should be two situations where warranties should be voided. Simply because both situations run the CPU out of electrical specification set by the manufacturer of said CPU. As an example, instances where under-volt is done to save power, perhaps buying a lower power CPU is a better option.
The incessant increase in wifi version numbers is getting annoying. Especially since no matter what version I have my kitchen still manages to kill my signal.
Hello there, i have the MAG B760 TOMAHWAK WIFI with an intel 13500. The mobo gives at the cpu 1.5 volts and 500 A by default and it s only allows me to lower the voltage by 0,050 volts in bios. Any ideas how i lower the voltage > ty
Let us know what you think in the comments about the motherboard - and please report any SPAM you see, its a continual issue right now, we remove it when we see it. thanks!
Using the MSI MPG Z790 EDGE TI MAX WIFI, can you run a GPU at 16x and a M.2 gen. 5 NVMe? If so, what ports do you use? Thank you for the help...this could be a banger mobo if true!
Love the way the reviewer empties the box of the base motherboard with total derision.
Great video! I have an MSI MPG Edge WiFi DDR4 from last year running a 13700K.
One of the interesting things that isn't mentioned here is the PCI-e slot wiring. The top end Ace Max has the two upper Gen 5.0 slots that are configured for bifurcation directly to the CPU. This is reinforced in the user manual, which has specific instructions for multi-GPU setups. So a second GPU will drop the top slot to 5.0x8.
On the other hand (I haven't checked the Tomahawk in a while), the other two boards have x16 size slots, but the second x16 slot only supports x4 wiring (4.0x4), and that is via the chipset, and not the CPU.
I only know this boring information, as I was wanted to have a second GPU on my current MPG Edge, on the lower x16 slot.
Not boring at all. I had no idea. Maybe Leo didn’t either !
I always enjoy your detailed breakdowns. thanks for the info. your one of the creators I look to when I make my buying choices
I appreciate that!
Love the looks of the ace again. Some money for it however. Way above my level for playing some games with a single ssd 😂
The ace literally screams "Gaming". Amazed hasn't got some RGB.
MSI are my favourite boards. Had them all. Would like to try a new Asrock next year when I upgrade.
Glad you pointed out that these board manufacturers run the power levels at levels that are not 'sane'. Haven't seen any other RUclipsrs talk about this even when saying "the cpu runs hot, it might burn your house down", claiming it is Intel's ptoblems. lol.
Thanks Leo, enjoyed these two videos this week
Glad you like them!
you are the best thanks. No crazy music and high knowledge and high skills
Good review 👍🏻
Glad you liked it
Thanks kg I like MSI boards. Just ordered the ace
Looks like the H770 chipset is interesting but shame its not available. That B760 really is for entry level gaming only.
Can't really go wrong with any of these really and as Leon pointed out a lot really depends on what CPU you are going to stick in there.
I like MSI boards. Had a terrible time with an ASUS tuf and moved to them. Bioses are great on MSI
same here i used gigabyte for years and switch to MSI MPG Z690 FORCE WIFI and i score 37086 points on Cinebench r23 with my i7 14700k
Cracking stuff Leo
This man is a Tech Sensei.. huge respect Sir
Thanks jack 👍🏻
It's the mark of a great video when the reaction is "More!" As with the AMD video, I would have liked to have seen you discuss and demonstrate the expandability of these boards by actually plugging in other cards (10 GbE and video capture being the obvious ones). With the Max board can you plug your GPU into the second X16 slot and plug - say - a 4x M.2 riser board into the slot closest to the CPU and have both fully work? But I appreciate you have only so much time. Keep up the good work.
I miss Leo’s reviews of boards and lukes. They don’t do many in-depth mb reviews anymore. Likely take too long.
@@hotandcoldrunningwater-hj2mn Agreed.
Great article thanks kg
The mid range board in this one looks like the best value for money overall. Regarding hardware support and features etc.
It seems the mid range boards are the best for money. One step up and it's quick diminishing returns.
Yeah the mid range one has a lot of the good features . That high end board is excessive for most people.
MSI rocks !! I switched from Asus a few years ago and haven't looked back. 😎
Looking at the multiple slots on the high end board. Is multi-gpu going to make a comeback on the desktop?
I’m curious to see the new AMD boards coming
We are too
good one Leo!
Thanks!
Personally, i think that both AMD and Intel need to enforce base performance settings in the bios with their motherboard venders. Then on unlocked overclockable CPU's, establish exactly what voids CPU warranty and set fused options in the CPU's so that if overlocking is done, the fuses are cut which will simplify warranty claims. Overclocking is an "At-will" process and motherboard makers are essentially forcing it on everyone which in a roundabout way; they are voiding your warranty for you which happily AMD and intel and standing behind their CPU's. I'm totally for some level of user tuning and it should be allowed without voiding warranties. However, there's a point where it should and personally, modifying voltages such over-volt or under-volt should be two situations where warranties should be voided. Simply because both situations run the CPU out of electrical specification set by the manufacturer of said CPU. As an example, instances where under-volt is done to save power, perhaps buying a lower power CPU is a better option.
Thanks!
Welcome!
What motherboard you recommend for i9 14900k pls ?
Am I seening those specs right? 25 USB ports on the z790 series chipset? What on earth are people plugging in to their computers?
Wish you guys tested Asrock mobos for intel, been having no luck with MSI over the years..
Hopefully sometime soon. Who knows !
Why is the H770 totally unavailable?
I dont get the price differentiation on these boards either.
The incessant increase in wifi version numbers is getting annoying. Especially since no matter what version I have my kitchen still manages to kill my signal.
Massive price discrepancy between retail and what you can actually pick them up for. Bit unnecessary having such large headline prices.
Hi Leo thanks for article. I don’t like the tomahawk it’s not great or stable. I’d aim higher.
Why are we still talking about LGA1700 motherboards? Is LGA1700 a dead platform?
Cause you can still buy them and people do.
Hello there, i have the MAG B760 TOMAHWAK WIFI with an intel 13500. The mobo gives at the cpu 1.5 volts and 500 A by default and it s only allows me to lower the voltage by 0,050 volts in bios. Any ideas how i lower the voltage > ty
I don’t know that bios specifically but you have undervolting options for the cpu in the bios
You just need to lower your voltage for the cpu in the bios. Go into advanced and the off the auto stuff
Do not get the b760 unless you need a hotplate. Runs my 14700kf at 100c
Nice you put up the Amd one first for a change 👍🏻
You are quite the Amd fan. 👍🏻
I guess the channel has to pay its bills but this is a bit weak. These mobos are not new, nor are the AM5 ones he did the other day.
Leo would you spend the money on the ACE ?
Cant believe these higher end gaming motherboards are going for that much money. Seems like a bit of a yellow coloured liquid removal to me.
I don’t see why anyone would need to spend over 600 ponies on a motherboard.
Thats better prefer their Intel boards to AMD. Always have, always will.
Have you had bad experiences with MSI AMD boards ?
I like MSI bios layouts. I moved to Asus this year and regret it now. Their bioses used to be brilliant. Very poor layout
Their high end boards always look incredible, but so so expensive.
MSI are good but I prefer gigabyte. Better build quality
The question is not: Which one is better.
The question is: Why buy any of these.
MSI fans who want a new motherboard for a specific platform. Just a guess.
Don’t buy any of them get the godlike motherboard problem solved