Up Yup it's my most recent build and a great deck I'm also trying to build a Hydra tribal deck but by far my most favorite tribal deck will always be the slivers Because of the ridiculous power that comes out of it And everybody hates going against them
@@jasonleonard8857 hey Jay. Ikoria has a really interesting and high potential Hydra commander(in my opinion) coming in one of the precons. I think you would like it. Zaxara....
Note that Patron of the Nezumi only triggers when permanents (i.e. objects on the battlefield, NOT "permanent cards") are put into a graveyard. Altar of Dementia will just mill your opponent, not trigger Patron. Alternatively, mill yourself to trigger Konrad, but Patron still does nothing there.
I was looking at cards like Crashing Drawbridge that you tap to give all your creatures haste, imagine putting down 15+ rats then tapping the draw bridge so they can immediately swing in
I had this deck and I can say that it is definetely fun.. and terrifying to your opponents. And due to that, I had to switch to Orzhov not only to recur/answer more, but also to praise the almighty God of the swarm: Ratheros, God of the Rats. The deck is based on AristoRATS shenanigans. So so much fun!
I've been playing Relentless Rats forever in EDH. When Rat Colony came out I was very excited. I've built them with Jarad, Karador, even R/B Grenzo. I love this tribe.
I'm right there with ya! They're my favorite tribe, and I too know that while I've swapped the commanders a ton (Grenzo, Lazav, Greven, now Sek'Kuar) I will always have a rat colony deck :)
I love my rat deck, I love it even more that I first made it years ago and bought some Cabal Coffers when they were cheap. Just having an expedition map to search for the cabal coffers or cabal stronghold to keep doubling Mana is great, especial when you can hit for 20+ with crypt rats
Been thinking about a Rat/ Goblin tribal deck with Krenko and Marrow Gnawer in the 99. Call it Raining Rats and Moggs. Trying to find an excuse to use a Dralnu's Crusade in Commander.
My Ayara Rat Colony deck has been one of my absolute favorite decks I’ve built. So thank you for showing the rats some love! I’d suggest a Tendrils of Agony in the deck. Thrumming Stone cards are cast so it’s a great way to rack up Storm for cheap once you go off.
That door of destinies is stupid broken when combined with the thumming stone And then you have all your rats out on the field each with power and toughness over 20
I personally prefer using Athreos as the commander. He makes your board a lot more resilient and white has great recursion for low cost creatures. Plus you have more tutors for your Skullclamp, which is probably one of the best cards in your deck.
Going for an Ayara rat tribal burn deck with these guys! Thruming Stone, Secret Salvage, Blood Artist, Ashnod's Altar, Swarmyard, Ratcatcher, and Plague of Vermin are amazing! Also Thornbite Staff is a nice infinite with Marrow Gnawer
One card that fill a similar role to Secret Salvage in this deck is Desperate Research. It will net you about 2 rats on average to your hand for 2 mana.
I don't think Altar of Dimentia and Patron of the Nezumi would synergize. Since a card is only a permanent once its on the battlefield. So, even if you milled a land, let's say, from the opponent's deck, Nezumi wouldn't trigger since its a land 'card' being milled and not a 'permanent' at that time. Pretty sure about this, anyway.
Balthor the defiled in the zone. Thruming stone or simiar big effect. Drop hella rats. Try to win. Your oppents wipe your board? Sacrifice and exile (to cmnd zone) Balthor and bring them all back! Also living death and Patriarch's Bidding.
I've seen a Shadowborne Apostle deck hit all of them at once with Thrumming Stone... We got lucky because the player was trapped out and couldn't activate to get the demons... and someone board wiped and I played a bojuka bog after to neuter the deck.
I actually run a deck with altar and konrad, and it claps cheeks most of the time. Filled the deck with small aggro creatures, value sac outlets, recursion, and spot removal.
Omg... you picked almost EVERY card, including altar of dementia, that I have in my mono black commander deck :D I HAVE this exact deck :p how funny is this :p
@@JumboCommander It is a good back up win condition! Just last friday I was playing against a friend and I attacked with everything I got. He managed to sneak in some creatures to block with so he survived and I knew if I did not do anything, he would be swinging at me with lethal force since I was tapped out. And suddenly I realise that after a glance at his library that he was already pretty milled out since he was playing with a blue/black draw, discard deck. So with the relative high power of my rats, I managed to mill his last 38 cards after my atack and still win the game.
This deck looks fun but once you build mono color tribal deck you’ve built them all. That may not be completely true but I’ve got a krenko deck and this seems super duper similar besides the multiple of a card shenanigans.
Anybody have thoughts on maybe taking out a single rat colony for a Mikaeus the Unhallowed, OR Obelisk of Urd? My thoughts behind Mikaeus; you’d be able to swing out with some giant rats; potentially kill opponents creatures, maybe get some tokens from ogre slumlord, anything that dies comes back bigger, and anything that survives helps to drain with throne of the god pharaoh. My thoughts behind Obelisk of Urd; gives the rats some added power and much needed toughness boost if you haven’t found the door yet, and if you have the throne of the god pharaoh out, you might as well tap 6 creatures if you can to drain your opponents 6 life each. Hell maybe more if you have extra rats that can swing and live. PLZ LEAVE THOUGHTS!
Was hoping this wouldn’t be another Rat Colony/Relentless Rats decktech, but glad that my favorite tribe is getting more spotlight nonetheless. What excites me about this tribe is the non-Rat cards. The Ogres and the Piper are super flavorful (still disappointed we didn’t get a third Ogre on our third trip to Ravnica!). I’m super glad you featured those. P.S. Plague of Vermin, while expensive, is super flavorful and ends games. Especially with Ayara on board.
so i have a question about this, why use Rat Colony instead of Relentless Rats? Relentless Rats costs 1 more however it is a 2/2 and gets +1/+1 for each other Relentless Rats in play you can also have as many of these in your deck as you want, as it has the same wording. Not trying to insult you or anything but I'm really curious on why you went with Rat Colony. I hope you see my message and respond :)
uff.. Jet medallion, 20 $? :O this deck needs "Akroma's Memorial". get all the keywords + the pro black is relevant, then only artifact creatures can block you.
I get you're promoting the Secret Lair, and it comes with Rat Colony, but wouldn't Relentless Rats be better? 1 more mana for 1 more toughness and gets +1/+1 for other copies of Relentless Rats as opposed to +1/+0 for other Rats.
Relentless Rats is good but Rat Colonly gets the buff off of the tokens you create from Marrow Gnawer and other sources and can have a much higher power much faster. The low toughness is a downside but you can usually go wide enough or generate enough evasion that it doesnt even matter.
@@Talesofnah nope u just attach it to ur commander and when u sac a creature it sees the death it triggers the untapping of the attached creature marrow allowing u to make infinite tokens
Thank the Gods that someone else loves Rat tribal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Up Yup it's my most recent build and a great deck I'm also trying to build a Hydra tribal deck but by far my most favorite tribal deck will always be the slivers Because of the ridiculous power that comes out of it And everybody hates going against them
@@jasonleonard8857 hey Jay. Ikoria has a really interesting and high potential Hydra commander(in my opinion) coming in one of the precons. I think you would like it. Zaxara....
Yeah they are like black goblins
DJ: Check out the secret lair
Me: Ok but I'm not going to buy anyt-
Oh no the art is cute
Altar of Dementia is a great call for a swarm of colonies at the end of a long grindy game. Especially against high defense players.
I have this deck! It's indeed really fun and I can't believe Marrow-Gnawer is finally getting a reprint.
C'mon Deej, no Eldrazi monument?
Evasion? Check.
Pumps? Check.
Protection against board wipes? Check.
Note that Patron of the Nezumi only triggers when permanents (i.e. objects on the battlefield, NOT "permanent cards") are put into a graveyard. Altar of Dementia will just mill your opponent, not trigger Patron. Alternatively, mill yourself to trigger Konrad, but Patron still does nothing there.
I was looking at cards like Crashing Drawbridge that you tap to give all your creatures haste, imagine putting down 15+ rats then tapping the draw bridge so they can immediately swing in
I had this deck and I can say that it is definetely fun.. and terrifying to your opponents. And due to that, I had to switch to Orzhov not only to recur/answer more, but also to praise the almighty God of the swarm: Ratheros, God of the Rats. The deck is based on AristoRATS shenanigans. So so much fun!
I really like the new way you're doing these deck techs
I've been playing Relentless Rats forever in EDH. When Rat Colony came out I was very excited. I've built them with Jarad, Karador, even R/B Grenzo. I love this tribe.
I'm right there with ya! They're my favorite tribe, and I too know that while I've swapped the commanders a ton (Grenzo, Lazav, Greven, now Sek'Kuar) I will always have a rat colony deck :)
@@trenttrombley9414OMG I never considered Sek'Kuar!! Excuse me while I go pull cards.
I love my rat deck, I love it even more that I first made it years ago and bought some Cabal Coffers when they were cheap. Just having an expedition map to search for the cabal coffers or cabal stronghold to keep doubling Mana is great, especial when you can hit for 20+ with crypt rats
If you run K'rrik and have Bontu's Monument out, Rat Colony is essentially free. So that's a neat little setup to consider as well. Great deck tech!
The piper is using the rats to subdue enemies so the piper's tune can control them is how I reasoned it. Good deck tech, this looks fun
I can buy that. I too would be subdued and distracted if someone chucked three rats at me.
@@JumboCommander Lol agreed. One can think they're tough until they have three rabid rats vigorously trying to climb and bite them
I was thinking about building this deck so many times!!
Thank you :D
yes, exactly this!
Been thinking about a Rat/ Goblin tribal deck with Krenko and Marrow Gnawer in the 99. Call it Raining Rats and Moggs. Trying to find an excuse to use a Dralnu's Crusade in Commander.
I would love some elephant tokens with the jumbo commander art on them
A Generous Gift indeed
My Ayara Rat Colony deck has been one of my absolute favorite decks I’ve built. So thank you for showing the rats some love! I’d suggest a Tendrils of Agony in the deck. Thrumming Stone cards are cast so it’s a great way to rack up Storm for cheap once you go off.
Tendrils is spicy!
I was literally just building a rat tribal deck! This is awesome!!!
That door of destinies is stupid broken when combined with the thumming stone And then you have all your rats out on the field each with power and toughness over 20
Coat of Arms is an exceptional card that wasn't mentioned. Thanks for the video.
Rat colony is an absolute menace with coat of arms out 😱
Living death, Patriarch's Bidding and Thornbite Staff are good additions as well!
I was watching this and like what about thornbite
I LOVE this. There’s nothing more gratifying than sending hundreds of rats at your opponents.
Love the enthusiasm.
Can't believe you didn't mention Swarmyard!
Rat lives matter
I would add a haunting voyage to this as then all rats that die can be instantly brought back all to the battlefield.
I personally prefer using Athreos as the commander. He makes your board a lot more resilient and white has great recursion for low cost creatures. Plus you have more tutors for your Skullclamp, which is probably one of the best cards in your deck.
Going for an Ayara rat tribal burn deck with these guys! Thruming Stone, Secret Salvage, Blood Artist, Ashnod's Altar, Swarmyard, Ratcatcher, and Plague of Vermin are amazing! Also Thornbite Staff is a nice infinite with Marrow Gnawer
No Coat of Arms? That would be my first pick for tribal decks with lots of creatures.
easy
One card that fill a similar role to Secret Salvage in this deck is Desperate Research. It will net you about 2 rats on average to your hand for 2 mana.
I’m torn between rat tribal, gruul, and saproling tokens being my favorite decks, ogre slumlord is one of my all time favorite cards
I saw the arena advert for it super early in the morning and just
Had to buy it
I definitely used Sir Konrad and Altar of Dementia to win 2 days ago
I don't think Altar of Dimentia and Patron of the Nezumi would synergize. Since a card is only a permanent once its on the battlefield. So, even if you milled a land, let's say, from the opponent's deck, Nezumi wouldn't trigger since its a land 'card' being milled and not a 'permanent' at that time. Pretty sure about this, anyway.
It’s about to get a whole lot better with Eldraine
Also , the land called swarmyard - regenerate rats
Eldrazi monument?
I am loving this deck. I own most of these too.
No Thornbite Staff?
Mate that's the infinite Rat combo.
Balthor the defiled in the zone. Thruming stone or simiar big effect. Drop hella rats. Try to win. Your oppents wipe your board? Sacrifice and exile (to cmnd zone) Balthor and bring them all back!
Also living death and Patriarch's Bidding.
Rat colonies are big off of each other RAT marrow gnawer makes RATS
Their power can get absolutely huge
I've seen a Shadowborne Apostle deck hit all of them at once with Thrumming Stone... We got lucky because the player was trapped out and couldn't activate to get the demons... and someone board wiped and I played a bojuka bog after to neuter the deck.
Just marrow-gnawer, 79 rat colonies, and 30 swamps.
Athreos Rats is OP as hell. It also gives you access to some White Protection stuff.
Thornbite staff is a must add
totally freakin sweet dude
I use jarad, Lich lord for my rat commander.
Do play Rat Colonies and Nantuko Shrine in your deck?
Hey Dj, I have a Nice rat commander deck. Relentless rats with Grenzo, dungeon warden as a commander. It's really fun to ju pay 2 mana för every rat!
The rats turn into the creature, possess the creature, or infest the creature and control it like that cute Disney Pixar movie Ratatouille.
altar of dimentia + syr conrad is super good in sidisi: brood tyrant if you mill yourself
I actually run a deck with altar and konrad, and it claps cheeks most of the time. Filled the deck with small aggro creatures, value sac outlets, recursion, and spot removal.
Marrow gnawer reminds me of krenko mob boss but with rats instead of goblins
And without many Haste pieces.
Thornbite is op broken combo sauce. Infinite rats.
OVER 300 BUCKS...dam it I love rats
i love and want all the rats, tho they dont fit in my EDH rat tribal funnily enough, that the best one (pack rats lantern) is like 18 bucks now XD
Really cool win con with Secret Salvage and Mortal Combat. Also go infinite with Marrow Gnawer, Thornbite Staff, Ashnod’s Altar and two rats.
You dont even need the altar. As long as you have Marrow, the Staff, and at least two rats, infinite rats.
contamination + infinite rats = locking everyone without black out of the game worth the tech
With green, you can play bloodbomd march.
Omg... you picked almost EVERY card, including altar of dementia, that I have in my mono black commander deck :D I HAVE this exact deck :p how funny is this :p
Is altar good? I think it's a fun angle.
@@JumboCommander It is a good back up win condition!
Just last friday I was playing against a friend and I attacked with everything I got. He managed to sneak in some creatures to block with so he survived and I knew if I did not do anything, he would be swinging at me with lethal force since I was tapped out.
And suddenly I realise that after a glance at his library that he was already pretty milled out since he was playing with a blue/black draw, discard deck. So with the relative high power of my rats, I managed to mill his last 38 cards after my atack and still win the game.
Mikaeus is the boi in rat decks
Made my rat deck... gave it a sickness sub theme .... 2020 plague deck complete
This deck looks fun but once you build mono color tribal deck you’ve built them all. That may not be completely true but I’ve got a krenko deck and this seems super duper similar besides the multiple of a card shenanigans.
Could you please make a klothys deck tech👍
DJ, why no Syr Konrad? those rats will die anyway right?
The Rat Pack deck
Anybody have thoughts on maybe taking out a single rat colony for a Mikaeus the Unhallowed, OR Obelisk of Urd? My thoughts behind Mikaeus; you’d be able to swing out with some giant rats; potentially kill opponents creatures, maybe get some tokens from ogre slumlord, anything that dies comes back bigger, and anything that survives helps to drain with throne of the god pharaoh. My thoughts behind Obelisk of Urd; gives the rats some added power and much needed toughness boost if you haven’t found the door yet, and if you have the throne of the god pharaoh out, you might as well tap 6 creatures if you can to drain your opponents 6 life each. Hell maybe more if you have extra rats that can swing and live. PLZ LEAVE THOUGHTS!
piper took the rats from them town killing them. then he came back and took the children. pay the piper
Wait how does Patron of Nezumi work with milling? Aren't cards only permanents when they're on the Battlefield?
Was hoping this wouldn’t be another Rat Colony/Relentless Rats decktech, but glad that my favorite tribe is getting more spotlight nonetheless.
What excites me about this tribe is the non-Rat cards. The Ogres and the Piper are super flavorful (still disappointed we didn’t get a third Ogre on our third trip to Ravnica!). I’m super glad you featured those.
P.S. Plague of Vermin, while expensive, is super flavorful and ends games. Especially with Ayara on board.
Dolmens gate!!
so i have a question about this, why use Rat Colony instead of Relentless Rats? Relentless Rats costs 1 more however it is a 2/2 and gets +1/+1 for each other Relentless Rats in play you can also have as many of these in your deck as you want, as it has the same wording. Not trying to insult you or anything but I'm really curious on why you went with Rat Colony. I hope you see my message and respond :)
Because rat colony counts the tokens made by Marrow ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Wheres your infect in your deck?
Theres a lot of it in mine 😜
Lemme borrow one of those eternal masters packs
Love this deck
I counted DJ saying rat and rats 70+ times by the 10 min mark before I lost count. Lol rats!
Sign in Blood, am I a joke to you?
Could you please review cool stuff incs new player commander decks
So disappointed I missed out on this Secret Lair!!! :'( what's the likelihood of purchasing these custom art cards aftermarket??
high, most of the previous secret lair shit you can get right now on tcg
Question: If I put a Filth in my rat deck, would that basically cover me against anything except artifact creatures?
uff.. Jet medallion, 20 $? :O
this deck needs "Akroma's Memorial". get all the keywords + the pro black is relevant, then only artifact creatures can block you.
Would Blood Artists type cards be good here?
Marrow-gnawer + thornbite staff
infinite rats
rats 🐁
YES YES YES YES
First: Rats by Ghost has to be playing while running this deck!
Second: or B? Meh. Add corrosive mentor and give all your rats wither.
I would add black market
I get you're promoting the Secret Lair, and it comes with Rat Colony, but wouldn't Relentless Rats be better? 1 more mana for 1 more toughness and gets +1/+1 for other copies of Relentless Rats as opposed to +1/+0 for other Rats.
Relentless Rats is good but Rat Colonly gets the buff off of the tokens you create from Marrow Gnawer and other sources and can have a much higher power much faster. The low toughness is a downside but you can usually go wide enough or generate enough evasion that it doesnt even matter.
@@damonyaste6922 Fair point. Different strokes for different folks, I guess.
Bontu’s Bonument
Surprised you didn't include thorn bite staff in the deck. Goes infinite with the commander. I myself run it in my deck.
wouldn't you also need infinite mana as well to got infinite with thorn bite staff?
@@Talesofnah nope u just attach it to ur commander and when u sac a creature it sees the death it triggers the untapping of the attached creature marrow allowing u to make infinite tokens
@@1989cardinalsfan but doesn't it require 2 colorless to tap?
@@1989cardinalsfan nm I see the combo lol I was looking at the activated ability on the staff and ignored marrow gnawer
In for 50 Rat colonies
This decks theme song: ruclips.net/video/C_ijc7A5oAc/видео.html
Ok but what about obelisk of urd?
Thornbite staff on marrow knawer and you have infinite rats
What about thornbite staff
I thought that in commander you could only have one copy of any card
Shame Year of the Rat is $70 in the UK, bit expensive.
Deck is 700$ on TCGP.
8O
*spits out beverage*
Going to need some changes in here....
Where's your thornbite staff
forgot thorn bite staff
Are rats fun in commander? I thought about it but I figured it would be boring to just play rats every turn...
Surprised... no Gary or Konrad