What a man Imhotep was! He deserves at least a dozen posthumous Nobel Prizes, surely? What is perhaps less well known is that he also scored the winning goal for the Thebes Tigers against the Cairo Cheetahs in the 2827BC All-Egypt Cup Final and he had just had one leg amputated only a week before. He truly deserves wider recognition.
@@aafgahfah He was actually using his other leg to pedal as hard as he could on an energy bicycle he had invented in order to generate the power for the sophisticated surgical devices (also of his own invention, of course) being used for the simultaneous amputation of his duff leg. That also explains the strength he still had only a week later to hop unileggedly down the pitch as the crowd of fellahin roared and perform his amazing unilegged bicycle kick from thirty yards out and thus to snatch the 2827BC All-Egypt Cup in the dying seconds for his ever grateful Thebes Tigers. There is a rumour that he was a source of inspiration for Mo Salah. Many more of Imhotep's other amazing feats remain to be discovered as libraries of learning are gradually unearthed from beneath the sands of the Sinai Desert.
Probably the same knobs that think Cleopatra was sub-Sahara African. If it wasn't for Göbekli Tepe, Çatalhöyük, Jericho, well you get the point, then maybe they'd have a point. Right? What I'm shocked at is that this platform is not only suggesting your brilliant videos (that's how I discovered them) but they are monitized since there's at least one advert on each one. I'm sure most of the people posting positive comments understand why I'm surprised. You know, you're content makes sense - so verboten. Keep up the amazing work. New fan here
@@mikegordon4903 maybe you're being a bit ironic but unfortunately this man do this clearly not for the money so therfore there's no nooney involved as same claim you don't need to be a genius to know that, Internet is the major source of misinformation today and the quickness of it is astonishingly fast so it spreads very fast not like in the old days that you need to make your own recherche read some books or be in the spot for the study, today due to political issues and social benefits there's many claims made about the past wen reality we as a species know to less on what we claim we do, the fact is that Egypt history humans know a bit more so make claims like this or for example Cleópatra or nefertiti is pure idiotic
Another truth filled informative video. It's wonderful to have an island of reasoned, educated historical view. The death of western culture is not far off but these videos remind me of the need for the rear view mirror in historical analysis. Whatever happened to empirical research, I don't think that's taught anymore. Anyway thanks!!!
Elizabeth D. Which history are you speaking off? Is it that most of his disclaims are of Africa, and ask yourself why is that. In fact who is he? Is he just someone that’s reflecting your views . And your not really exploring other ideas possibly have some truth to them.
Mosi Jahi I only referred to a specific hotep, Egyptian worshipping group that I met. They had no convincing, objective defense of their assertions because they could not stare references, dates, knowledge of anthropology, genetics, or books written by men or women that have thoroughly sought truth about the claims of Black Egyptians. Most spoke as if they were illiterate and demonstrated difficulty with presenting coherent, logical ideas. You’d think that as much as they worshipped their clsim that at least one of them would have visited Egypt or have been in close contact with Egyptians.
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I have lived and studied in Egypt for a number of years. Spent many days at the Egyptian Museum. Read over most all the tomes available on these subjects. Produced a number of papers on the architectural development of the pyramids whilst in country. I'm completely and totally ignorant of any DNA proof or historical data affirming that the Ancient Nile Civilizations of any of the Egyptian Pharaonic Kingdoms were based on, formed by, or consisting of Black Africans. Sorry, revisionists.
@Pete Burns Thank you Pete. Once at about age 22 at the behest of my young wife, I went to see a wise seer for a past lives reading. After a bit of mumbo-jumbo and attempted hypnosis, I was informed (for only 35USD per 1/2HR) that in a previous life I had been the Son of a Pharaoh, you know, an Egyptian Prince of the Nile. The Seer neglected to tell me about the eighteen other lives where I lived with chronic diseases, bad teeth and had to live in a mid-evil stable as a pig/hog slopper. Sometimes we all want to be the king.
@Pete Burns You better tell National Geographic that it "did NOT exist" cause they have a whole encyclopedia entry on it. 😅. Also, what about the other nations I mentioned?
@Pete Burns "In 1352-53, Ibn Battuta embarked on a pilgrimage from Morocco to the Mali empire. Throughout his travels, he described many aspects of the Trans-Saharan trade routes that he encountered on his journey to Mali." "During his travels, Battuta chronicled everything he saw." "The town of Takeda in the Niger Bend was a centre for copper mining and trade in Egyptian goods, like cloth. The routes from Morocco to Egypt were large distribution centres for gold." THATS WAS IN THE 1300'S, 200 YEARS BEFORE EUROPEAN COLONISTS
That is precisely what I meant to convey. 'Master of sculptors and masons' could very well be the ancient equivalent of Clerk of Works. We often see the names of such people on Victorian buildings in Britain.
@@HistoryDebunkedsimonwebb People say the same thing about the Great Pyramid of Khufu. The only reason people think he built it was because a lil bit of graffiti. It's crazy what gets attributed to whom.
@@YouAintGotNoTegridyBoi Not knowing a word doesn't make someone stupid. There are thousands of English words I don't know and I assume this is true of you as well, unless you have an unprecedented vocabulary.
@@peterwalton4165 I accept that no one is able to know the entire vocabulary of any language let alone English, but making up a word in an attempt to appear smart is a sign of stupidity.
There's a very simple explanation: the concept of the Polymath has never existed in the African brain, let alone the multiple expertise that warrant the title.
This crackpot afro-centric rewriting of history reminds me of that TV comedy series years ago 'Goodness Gracious Me' which featured an Indian family living in Britain. The son, born and raised in the UK, was always quarreling with his father who had an obsessive indo-centric view of the world and was convinced that all the great artists, composers and scientists were Indian. Of course the programme was making gentle fun of Indians in general who in the main probably don't actually hold such beliefs but at least have a cultural history lasting thousands of years behind them which would justify such a notion that the world's scientific and artistic achievements originated in the sub-continent.
Much like China people project achievements of Nations and Individuals on themselves.Even though they killed off their whole middle and upper class educated during the cultural revolution. I could say as a Brit I am of Isambard Kingdom Brunel's line. The truth is that my great grandfather a contemporary was a cigar roller. Still we could say he rolled his cigars lol.
Well, if he went to Oxford, and taught A level History,. He must have also performed "Dr Jones" and "I'm a Barbie Girl" with Lene Nystrom in Aqua as well. My goodness, the things MTV has put in my head.
Thanks for this video. People in Britain today know too little of their own and Western history thanks to poor and politically correct teaching. They are unable to counter this nonsense that civilization began in Africa.
The history books across the world have always been clear that civilisation began in Egypt. The teaching in white schools kept the secret about Egypt being located in Africa. And how would they have reconciled the two concepts; the demonizing of Africans and it's civilisation. This is very simple to understand. I have met lots of people the UK regardless of colour saying the same thing. So, it's not the information that's new, the secret is coming out. And it's not the fault of the so called Afrocentrists (or whatever you want to call them) information is available everywhere for people that want to learn. And how about travel?
I have done some more research and civilization began in Mesopotamia which is now Iraq. Later came Egyptian civilization and they built the pyramids, a fantastic achievement. European civilization was glorious in its own right. I have always known that Egypt is in Africa and no-one has ever taught me otherwise.
It's too bad that no African writing systems were developed by Africans, because the amazing African statesmen, Emperors, Kings, martyrs, authors, artists, scientists, architects, physicians, philosophers, astronomers, mathematicians, botanists, explorers, seafarers, merchants, ambassadors, military strategists and heros and all of the other great Africans who had so much influence and importance in the development of mankind, because their own lives and achievements would have been fascinating and inspiring and motivating to read about and learn from.. The only thing I wonder about is that if Africans were the most advanced race on earth, they must have had amazing memories to record and retain all of the technical, diplomatic, artistic, scientific, etc knowledge and expertise that they achieved long before the rest of the world, because they didn't bother to document and record and share everything they knew, they didn't even bother to develop maps, charts, compasses, navigation technologies, advanced ship building and the other stuff that the rest of the world needed, they just got in their canoes and sailed the oceans, bringing African achievements and developments and civilisation to every group from the native Americans, the Iberians, the Melanesian Islands, the Inca, Aztec and Mayans, the Caribs and Arawaks, Greeks, Phoenicians, Romans, Persians, Arabs, Norsemen, Celts, Anglo Saxons, the list goes on and on.. I'm not going to be suprised to hear some Afrocentric intellectual and historian to claim that the Japanese samurai and the Mongol empire, the Mogul empire, the Terracotta Warriors and the Great Wall of China, as well as Buddha and the Hindu deities and everything else was discovered or invented or planned for by Africans, but the other question I have is that if Africans were responsible for successfully discovering and conquering and civilising the whole world, why didn't they do the same in their own continent?? I'm glad that I am not part of the racial group that is usually considered to be the least civilised, the poorest, the most undeveloped, the least successful in education and economics, sciences, technology, industrial development and financial importance etc, as well as being well known as being much more violent towards themselves and others in almost every place that has a black community, as well as being very bitter and envious of others achievements but unwilling to accept responsibility for their own position in regards to the rest of mankind, I can understand why they like to believe in fantasies and farfetched claims, because no one wants to be in the lowest level in so many things, but it's just how it is and it is pointless to make up a better and more important image and history. No doubt I'll be seen as a rabid racist but I think that most of what I say can be backed up by genuine evidence and proof.
Thank you from the bottom of my heart for being so brave. Funny how people usually picture brave men as huge and powerful. God help us, we will win. The weak will not inherit the earth. The strong and forthright will. And thank you again for your bravery.
@@HistoryDebunkedsimonwebb its because he's thanking you on behalf of the white race i assume. As if by making this video you proved an African wasn't black but white.
@@HistoryDebunkedsimonwebb for the record he was subsaharan african...stop saying afrocentric when you are eurocentric...please its just not correct information.
There used to be a load of statues and plaques for Imhotep. Lots of cats named after him. Couldn't move around Egypt without seeing his name and likeness. Then it was found that he'd said the wrong thing about the wrong person back in his teens, and was cancelled by the population at large. Statues torn down, plaques and engravings defaced - within a couple of months he'd been almost erased from history, leaving only the fragmentary evidence of his existence we have now. Cats were OK though, they just got nicknames, but they didn't live the several thousand years to tell their truth.
Having visited Saqquara, It appeared to me, that the step pyramid was constructed using mud bricks, not small limestone blocks. The whole black Egyptian claim can be seen for what it is, by the simple expedient of viewing the artwork the Egyptians left of themselves. Did the ancient Egyptians look more or less similar to Nubians and Bantu peoples, or did they look nothing like them? I have to conclude, the ancient Egyptians took great pains to differentiate themselves from Nubians and Bantu people, both in skin tone and facial features.
@@BluntofHwicce The building blocks of saqquara must have been heavily degraded over time, as they appear to be made of mud, with a heavy layer of crumbled debris at the pyramid base. Much like the rose granite casing stones of the great pyramid, that you can see at the base of the pyramid at some locations, it must have looked spectacular with limestone/marble casing stones at the top of the the pyramid
Modern Egyptians I have met would certainly not accept to be referred to as "Black Africans", They see themselves as people of the Middle East, whatever their geographical location right on the far northern edge of a particular landmass may rather lazily suggest as bestowing some kind of cultural affinity with people from sub-Saharan Africa or really from anywhere in geographical Africa, except perhaps those North African countries bordering the Mediterranean. The touting of the achievements of the ancient Egyptian civilisation by people from most of the rest of geographical Africa as actually "proving" something culturally worthwhile in relation to themselves is complete and utter nonsense. Right from earliest recorded history, Egypt has looked east, not south. As Egypt does today.
@@guillaumerusengo9371 No, the Land of Punt was around present-day Somalia or Djibouti. The Egyptians traded with that area for gold, as they traded with many other places but they did not come from there. So! Wrong! Plz!
@@girlgirl4548 I did not said they did! But coming from the South, they were clear about that. The civilization grew from upper Egypt and then moved North, a swampy land, they clearly despised and wrote about!.
@@guillaumerusengo9371 Some Egyptians having come from the southern part of the same country is not at all what you were meaning or implying in your reference to "the South" and to "the land of Punt" - and you know it. Haha! Nice try but back to the books for you! Btw, the same site here has posted a video on "Black Egypt" which also demolishes any claim that "Black Egyptians" built the civilisation of Ancient Egypt, which is the point at issue here. ruclips.net/video/DRVX6tEyyGs/видео.html Good luck with your much needed further studies.
1:56 oh, Imhotep was grand vizier. Astonishing, seeing how that was an office held by those in the islamic world, and islam was made up centuries after Imhotep allegedly lived. Truly, a man that transcends time itself!
Another great video. Taita, the character from the River God series of books by Wilbur Smith alludes to the myth of Imhotep. I never realised how little evidence remains of Imhotep. Simon, what's your take on the Egyptian achievements? One thing that's always puzzled me is their advanced knowledge of masonry accrued in such a relatively short time. We are always told such feats aren't possible using today's technology. Could Egypt be older than mainstream archaeology makes out? What's your take on the archaic king lists which are dismissed by scholars?
The river god and all Wilbur Smith books were great books I learned to read better with them haven't met many people who have Read them Taita was my man ! Lol
They didn't have any system of writing until it was introduced through invasion by the Egyptians and Arabs. Things surely happened in Africa over the last twenty thousand years, but we mostly only have genetic evidence, and not writings as we do from Sumeria, Israel, and Egypt.
@@danbaumann8273 because your racist and you believe his idiotic views lol. There only his opinions and no facts no evidence to prove anything he says. Idk 🤷🏾♂️ when everything he’s said has been debunked. Ask a question I’ll point you to the source or link
There is literally stories about the man all around the world for 1000s of years after his death. The man literally changed the world, helped and taught so many people that he lives on as a god. Yes he was black but the point should be that this man was the 1st man in history to be written about/documented for being a master of multiple disciplines. His genius was used to help people and that changed the world. It's sad that focus is strongly on proving him to be anything other than a black african and also proving that he couldn't have been a genius. Why all the hate! World history is long and full of great accomplishments.
@Brass Balls I don't care about colour, however If you want to believe he's Caucasian that's your business. All cultures have an interesting history with accomplishments. Open your eyes and stop focusing on outdated stupid views that have been disproven.
Irrespective of all the other nonsense, what did Imhotep have to do with "Africans" (if by that word is meant sub-Saharan Africans)? As a brief glance at a map of North Africa will show, Egypt lies at the very northern edge of the Sahara. In fact, it is a good deal closer to the heart of Europe than to sub-Saharan Africa. Egyptians do not and did not look the slightest bit like Black Africans, and their language was of the same Semitic family as the Arabic that replaced it. This supposedly pro-Black "Woke" nonsense is doing a great disservice to the reputation of Black people, many of whom are not taken in by it.
I agree with most of what you say, but just a minor correction, Egyptian was/is not a Semitic language, it was/is an Afro-Asiatic language. The Egyptian and Semitic languages are both Afro-Asiatic languages, as are the Berber, Chadic, Omotic and Cushitic languages. Though it's important to state that the Ancient Egyptians originated in the Levant Neolithic (genetically very closely related to later Levantines such as the Canaanites) and migrated south into the Nile Delta and beyond; not, as blacks would wish for us to believe, originating south of the Sahara and them being black. Modern Egyptians have minor Sub-Saharan ancestry (due to Islamic slave trade) that is non-existent in their ancient ancestors, as per aDNA. Egypt has always been intimately connected, not to south of the Sahara, but to the Middle East.
It seems clear from the deification that Imhotep made an impression on posterity. So he was probably an important personage. What I do not understand is what is this guy singled out as a *black* genius. It is likely Imhotep was an administrator involved in construction of the pyramid of Zoser, and probably employed architects and engineers to assist with its construction, I see no reason what they would not all be the same color as Imhotep. As an aside, I find it hard to believe that civilization spread from Sumer to Eqypt, as you imply, as opposed to the two developing in parallel. Most of the dating I have seen for Menes/Narmer implies a date of about 3000 BC, which is very early and before the establishment of large-scale states in Mesopotamia (e.g. Sargon's empire, or the hegemonic efforts of Lugalzagesi and other strongmen before him).
I didn't mean to imply that civilisation spread from Sumer to Egypt. They were both developing at the same time and it was often hard to say what started when and where. Sorry, I didn't make myself clear.
There is no philosophy before the Greek. For various reasons. Also 'eastern philosophy', isnt philosophy. Egyptians were never black Africans. They still arent. There are some blacks in the south mostly; Nubians. You see plenty of em round Aswan. Doesnt look like they mingled a lot over those 3000+ years, bc then you would see more in the north aswell, mixed race, etc. Instead you see well defined lines where each lives. Still today.
@ptah-rek fear-none I graduated university in the 80ies kid; philosophy. Instead of asking why there is no philosophy prior to the Greek, you just babble nonsense. No Socrates didnt drink hemlock (its not even hemlock btw) for some vague reason you describe here. He was condemned (by the people he knew well) for 'being a bad influence on the youth'. All he had to do was apologize, but he choose truth and death. There are a couple of distinct reasons why philosophy starts at the Greek and no where else. For one, there is no structure of reasoning which was mandatory from Greek philosophy onward. And that defines philosophy. There is no other philosophy. Which doesnt imply there was no knowledge. It merely means the methods to get to such knowledge are different. For instance that are many wise expressions in eastern mysticism, but there is no proces of reason leading to that knowledge. There is no method of proof. Which is precisely what aristotle is mainly known for. However it is true that their knowledge was partly based on Egypt and before them, mesopotamia. Partly, bc the initial presumed low development of Europeans has largely been refuted last few decades. The Gaul, Germanic/Kelts were actually pretty developed. Romans destroyed most of that legacy by building their constructs on top of what used to be others'. Romans were of the same peoples btw.
StofStuiver so you believe this bullsh!t is King Tut? hiddenincatours.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Tut-Face.jpg How the Egyptians depicted Tut & his wife- thumbs-prod.si-cdn.com/gw86CryHtTj3gB4a72QanCMLZ8A=/800x600/filters:no_upscale()/public-media.si-cdn.com/filer/6b/6f/6b6f5916-33f8-4355-ac91-36948f37d565/cb002330.jpg Amenhotep, Tut’s grandfather- qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-81084293e396eb674ce21bbf81c01c58 Sennefer, mayor of Thebes - www.flickr.com/photos/prof_richard/4158108920/ Irrefutable evidence that the ancient Egyptians were dark skinned Africans! Only a pathetic, ignorant imbecile could look at these images and still believe that the ancient Egyptians were not “black” Africans!
Ancient Egyptians were not genetically black Africans but the Kerma Kingdom, the Kush kingdom, the Axum Kingdom were founded by black Africans. Their achievements were remarkable.Even in architecture.
@antonio torcoli I think it does make more sense to promote a positive mythic ideal and factual history in all peoples and direct that toward a socio-political agenda that creates strong ethnic/racial identities and homogeneous nations. A positive ideal that was both universalist & collectivist could elevate each individual and shut out the parasitism of the global elite. I personally know that I'm not a multi-genius pyramid builder and healer; it's the international aliens that take great joy in smashing groups together or disintegrating them from within.
HOKUM excellent answer bro, history and culture should unite, not divide mankind. Schools and Universities should teach history whitout nationalistic,racist and religious biases.
Ryan Pennington .There are plenty of recent genetic studies that clarify the genetic background of the Ancient Egyptians. The most complete and compelling is the following: Schuenemann V.J. et al. Nature Commun. 8 , 15694 (2017).
The Andites along the Nile From the times of the terminal Andite migrations, culture declined in the Euphrates valley, and the immediate center of civilization shifted to the valley of the Nile. Egypt became the successor of Mesopotamia as the headquarters of the most advanced group on earth. The Nile valley began to suffer from floods shortly before the Mesopotamian valleys but fared much better. This early setback was more than compensated by the continuing stream of Andite immigrants, so that the culture of Egypt, though really derived from the Euphrates region, seemed to forge ahead. But in 5000 B.C., during the flood period in Mesopotamia, there were seven distinct groups of human beings in Egypt; all of them, save one, came from Mesopotamia. When the last exodus from the Euphrates valley occurred, Egypt was fortunate in gaining so many of the most skillful artists and artisans. These Andite artisans found themselves quite at home in that they were thoroughly familiar with river life, its floods, irrigations, and dry seasons. They enjoyed the sheltered position of the Nile valley; they were there much less subject to hostile raids and attacks than along the Euphrates. And they added greatly to the metalworking skill of the Egyptians. Here they worked iron ores coming from Mount Sinai instead of from the Black Sea regions. The Egyptians very early assembled their municipal deities into an elaborate national system of gods. They developed an extensive theology and had an equally extensive but burdensome priesthood. Several different leaders sought to revive the remnants of the early religious teachings of the Sethites, but these endeavors were short-lived. The Andites built the first stone structures in Egypt. The first and most exquisite of the stone pyramids was erected by Imhotep, an Andite architectural genius, while serving as prime minister. Previous buildings had been constructed of brick, and while many stone structures had been erected in different parts of the world, this was the first in Egypt. But the art of building steadily declined from the days of this great architect. This brilliant epoch of culture was cut short by internal warfare along the Nile, and the country was soon overrun, as Mesopotamia had been, by the inferior tribes from inhospitable Arabia and by the blacks from the south. As a result, social progress steadily declined for more than five hundred years. Ref. The Urantia Book
It seems like the encyclopedia Britannica is a little more certain about Imhotep, although they list no references except the inscription to which you refer. Here is the first description: It's interesting that carefully arranged words can give more or less credence to certain ideas. Imhotep, Greek Imouthes, (born 27th century BCE, Memphis, Egypt), vizier, sage, architect, astrologer, and chief minister to Djoser (reigned 2630-2611 BCE), the second king of Egypt’s third dynasty, who was later worshipped as the god of medicine in Egypt and in Greece, where he was identified with the Greek god of medicine, Asclepius. He is considered to have been the architect of the step pyramid built at the necropolis of Ṣaqqārah in the city of Memphis. The oldest extant monument of hewn stone known to the world, the pyramid consists of six steps and attains a height of 200 feet (61 metres).
Have you ever looked into the idea to resets? I have heard a few people postulate about various ancient civilisations that have been buried etc. Some of the arguments seem legit others seem a bit of a stretch. Is there anything in it?
Interesting, please look up Robin Walker (if you’re not aware of him). There are a number of people who seem unjustifiably offended when ever black history is brought up. A fairly recent example Cheddar man, I’m sure “Afrocentrism” wasn’t behind that. It supports the theory of Mitochondrial Eve, modern day science also backs up the idea. I’ve subscribed because you have content that is looking at things from a different angle, I hope you’re open minded enough to take in new information without feeling the need to “debunk” because it makes you feel uncomfortable. Cognitive dissonance is happening on both sides.
R u kidding? The ancient alien crowd, ie. Robert Bauvaul, pushes the Afrocentric claims. Besides, who built the African Stonehenge, Nabta Playa, Africans, no?
@@ArmchairPhilosopher360 Oh well, a lot of these crackpots must like to bind their flakey pseudosciences together, which is rather sad and pathetic. I'd never really heard of Nabta Playa, so I just looked it up. It's a Neolithic ring of stones about 4 metres across in Africa. Why did you mention it?
@@ArmchairPhilosopher360 Well I wouldn't have a clue who built it, so you'll have to ask the archaeologists about that one. But what has Nabta Playa got to do with either this video or my first comment?
Wanting something to be true, doesn't make it true... By the way, Simon, perhaps you'd care to investigate black Beethoven which seems to be gaining some traction with these loonies?
@@HistoryDebunkedsimonwebb Strange, isn't it, how they always ascribe blackness to intelligent and/or saintly figures, never their opposites. One never sees, say, Vlad the Impaler being championed by the Afrocentrics.
@@wirlinmerlin9400 And, of course, the person has to have died before photography was invented. So, Beethoven can be touted as being black (despite numerous paintings and even his death mask) but Brahms is a non-starter.
Ah, yes... it’s rearing it’s ugly head again (and I don’t mean Beethoven ha ha). Just because the sketch artist used a 4 bloody B pencil for heaven’s sake! What about the painted mug shots of him as a rosy cheeked fella? But, no - we can throw out all that because of one underexposed looking portrait. These folks are ill 😷. Great topic for ridicule though 👍
You seem a retard yourself. Who was involved in the co- establishment of the internet systems - a Nigerian, space mathematics to land on the moon was literally done by three african black women. Inventions come from all races. What have you invented yourself? The top mathematics students in Britain are largely Nigerian and Indian
I think he was the main villain in The Mummy. He got buried alive with scarab beatles and then came back to life. However, Imhotep turned out not to be a genius at all, for he was easily outwitted by the main character and hero of the movie, a European archaeologist and adventurer 😄😄
Given that the sole evidence for Egyptian Mathematics is the Rhind Papyrus and for earlier African Mathematics is the Ishangi Bone. Most of these claims may be dismissed for lack of evidence. The concept that one man was solely responsible for all these alleged developments simply beggars belief.
I believe there is very little evidence for the existence of this Imhotep. He is supposed to have designed the Step Pyramid of the Pharoah Djoser. He later became elevated to the status of a god, especially of medicine. The Greeks worshipped him as Imouthes.
Ancient Egypt did have a black monarchy during the Cushite Kingdom around 700BC. That was 2000 years after Imhotep. It only lasted about 65 years. The Cushite Kingdom was subjugated by Amenhotep III in 2500 BC. It is inreresting to note that in tne Book of Numbers Chapter 12:1 Moses is criticized by his brother Aaron and sister Miriam for marrying a Cushite woman. No mention of his first wife Zipporah the daughter of Jethro.
Last time i checked axum was a semitic civilization which was a continuation of another semitic civilization called d'mt which was under the control of saba which is an even older semitic civilization that existed in yemen and northeastern ethiopia/eritrea
Must admit the first video I saw felt a bit anti-African as there seem to be a bit smirking and derogatory tone and therefore was therefore was suspicious of motivation. Having viewed several more I have been convinced you seem to be more than fair and facts do seem to check out so hence I have subscribed.
I am unable to see any visuals for this post. It is audio only. I have been to Saqqara, & associate Imhotep with its construction, nothing more, nothing less. It is essentially a stacking of mastabas of decreasing size. And, as you say, Imhotep’s deification is nothing unusual in the ancient world.🤷♀️
What evidence is there that Imhotep was African? Slightly off topic but since mathematics was at issue, I once saw/read some research that showed the numbering system we call "Arabic numerals" actually originated in India.
I have deliberately avoided going into Imhotep's ethnicity, because I talked a few days ago about whether or not Egyptians at that time could properly be consider black Africans. This video focuses entirely upon his supposed achievements.
The best crank I've heard peddle this yarn is a (white) Belgian named Robert Bauval in his book, Imhotep the African. You can find his presentations on RUclips, too.
I didn't know that Imhotep was Black. He brings to mind the stereotype of most other high level advisers to kings, pharaohs, and politicians. A shrewd cunning self serving politician in his own right.
He was African, wasn't he? You see, there is a dotted line that runs along the Suez Canal. On one side you are sub-Saharan African. On the other, you are a pink skinned Caucasian.
@@thecasualcitizen492 I think you missed the facetiousness in my remark. I mean, forget where the continent does or doesn't end. Sub-Saharan Africans claiming Egypt is like the Swedes claiming Rome and its accomplishments.
OK, so we might believe that Imhotep was a brilliant cosmic genius who outshone Einstein, Leonardo da Vinci, Dr. Albert Schweitzer, etc. etc., if we actually had any real evidence for any of that. The question surely must be that there surely must have been a few more 'Imhoteps' before, at the same time and later. just like Einstein, Leonardo, etc. etc. were by no means isolated examples of their times. So what went so disastrously wrong - assuming, of course that 'Imhotep' isn't just a bit of an exaggeration or fabrication to begin with?
They have tons of stuff about how the pyramids were built from tools used to plans dating back from the time they were built its alien freaks that try to muddy the waters
Leaving sub-Saharan Africa for North Africa and Egypt, around 5000 BC, afrocentrists took with them all the supports and symbols of sub-Saharan knowledge and put it into practice in Egypt; at the same time, they destroy any clue or trace of civilization and knowledge in black Africa, that is why this Africa has kept neither vestige nor memory of its ancient glory. The cultural, civilizational and scientific underdevelopment of sub-Saharan Africa is therefore the work of these Afro-centrists who deprived Africa of its knowledge for the benefit of Egypt.
It’s great that so many people like these videos, but how many of you will take up the fight and publicly challenge these inaccurate, Afrocentric ideas, talking to teachers, etc.
On the healing/doctor issue, possibly the saints analogy work well as the connection between being a patron saint and the actual actions of the person are vague. Did St Paul become patron saint of travelers because he carried a little boy over a river? So, no record of road construction, ensuring safety of the highway or new design of carts/boats etc?
What a man Imhotep was! He deserves at least a dozen posthumous Nobel Prizes, surely? What is perhaps less well known is that he also scored the winning goal for the Thebes Tigers against the Cairo Cheetahs in the 2827BC All-Egypt Cup Final and he had just had one leg amputated only a week before. He truly deserves wider recognition.
He even oversaw the amputation
@@aafgahfah He was actually using his other leg to pedal as hard as he could on an energy bicycle he had invented in order to generate the power for the sophisticated surgical devices (also of his own invention, of course) being used for the simultaneous amputation of his duff leg. That also explains the strength he still had only a week later to hop unileggedly down the pitch as the crowd of fellahin roared and perform his amazing unilegged bicycle kick from thirty yards out and thus to snatch the 2827BC All-Egypt Cup in the dying seconds for his ever grateful Thebes Tigers. There is a rumour that he was a source of inspiration for Mo Salah. Many more of Imhotep's other amazing feats remain to be discovered as libraries of learning are gradually unearthed from beneath the sands of the Sinai Desert.
Seems to have accomplished more than you. Were is the pyramid that you built. Put it on display for the next video would love to see it.
@@MrMegagoldenarms He really built pyramids? You are irredeemably brainwashed, besides having a humour deficit.
girl girl here’s what I know. As a black man, I come from excellence, greatness, and sophistication.
Probably the same knobs that think Cleopatra was sub-Sahara African. If it wasn't for Göbekli Tepe, Çatalhöyük, Jericho, well you get the point, then maybe they'd have a point. Right? What I'm shocked at is that this platform is not only suggesting your brilliant videos (that's how I discovered them) but they are monitized since there's at least one advert on each one. I'm sure most of the people posting positive comments understand why I'm surprised. You know, you're content makes sense - so verboten. Keep up the amazing work. New fan here
Brave New Channel yea I guess you tube wants us all to be informed people.
@@mikegordon4903 maybe you're being a bit ironic but unfortunately this man do this clearly not for the money so therfore there's no nooney involved as same claim you don't need to be a genius to know that, Internet is the major source of misinformation today and the quickness of it is astonishingly fast so it spreads very fast not like in the old days that you need to make your own recherche read some books or be in the spot for the study, today due to political issues and social benefits there's many claims made about the past wen reality we as a species know to less on what we claim we do, the fact is that Egypt history humans know a bit more so make claims like this or for example Cleópatra or nefertiti is pure idiotic
Cleaopatra and Ptolemy were Greeks. Thats easy. They invaded egypt
Cleopatras was useless Greek . Has nothing to do with the dynasty civilization. No one is claiming her.
@@AdonaiZedek and earlier pharoes were of Middle Eastern descent
Another truth filled informative video. It's wonderful to have an island of reasoned, educated historical view. The death of western culture is not far off but these videos remind me of the need for the rear view mirror in historical analysis. Whatever happened to empirical research, I don't think that's taught anymore. Anyway thanks!!!
This reminds me of the "ancient" religion of Wicca that was actually invented in the late 1940's by a fellow called Gerald Gardner.
Yes just another cult of uneducated fools. Met a group of them in St. Lucia and they couldn’t answer any historical questions.
Elizabeth D. Which history are you speaking off? Is it that most of his disclaims are of Africa, and ask yourself why is that. In fact who is he? Is he just someone that’s reflecting your views . And your not really exploring other ideas possibly have some truth to them.
Mosi Jahi I only referred to a specific hotep, Egyptian worshipping group that I met. They had no convincing, objective defense of their assertions because they could not stare references, dates, knowledge of anthropology, genetics, or books written by men or women that have thoroughly sought truth about the claims of Black Egyptians. Most spoke as if they were illiterate and demonstrated difficulty with presenting coherent, logical ideas. You’d think that as much as they worshipped their clsim that at least one of them would have visited Egypt or have been in close contact with Egyptians.
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I have lived and studied in Egypt for a number of years. Spent many days at the Egyptian Museum. Read over most all the tomes available on these subjects. Produced a number of papers on the architectural development of the pyramids whilst in country. I'm completely and totally ignorant of any DNA proof or historical data affirming that the Ancient Nile Civilizations of any of the Egyptian Pharaonic Kingdoms were based on, formed by, or consisting of Black Africans. Sorry, revisionists.
@Pete Burns Thank you Pete.
Once at about age 22 at the behest of my young wife, I went to see a wise seer for a past lives reading. After a bit of mumbo-jumbo and attempted hypnosis, I was informed (for only 35USD per 1/2HR) that in a previous life I had been the Son of a Pharaoh, you know, an Egyptian Prince of the Nile. The Seer neglected to tell me about the eighteen other lives where I lived with chronic diseases, bad teeth and had to live in a mid-evil stable as a pig/hog slopper. Sometimes we all want to be the king.
@Pete Burns Then explain the Mali Empire, Songhai Empire, Anziku kingdom. What you've said shows your complete ignorance on the topic.
@Pete Burns You better tell National Geographic that it "did NOT exist" cause they have a whole encyclopedia entry on it. 😅. Also, what about the other nations I mentioned?
@Pete Burns you're just racist 😅
@Pete Burns "In 1352-53, Ibn Battuta embarked on a pilgrimage from Morocco to the Mali empire. Throughout his travels, he described many aspects of the Trans-Saharan trade routes that he encountered on his journey to Mali." "During his travels, Battuta chronicled everything he saw." "The town of Takeda in the Niger Bend was a centre for copper mining and trade in Egyptian goods, like cloth. The routes from Morocco to Egypt were large distribution centres for gold." THATS WAS IN THE 1300'S, 200 YEARS BEFORE EUROPEAN COLONISTS
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Perhaps Imhotep was there for the ribbon cutting grand opening and got written up like mayors and councilmen now!
That is precisely what I meant to convey. 'Master of sculptors and masons' could very well be the ancient equivalent of Clerk of Works. We often see the names of such people on Victorian buildings in Britain.
@@HistoryDebunkedsimonwebb People say the same thing about the Great Pyramid of Khufu. The only reason people think he built it was because a lil bit of graffiti. It's crazy what gets attributed to whom.
History Debunked Haha! That really is funny, and these days we can all stand a bit more of that!
I read in the Guardian that Mr Lammy MP was his younger brother.
Sacrilege!!! Everyone knows full well Imhotep was a sub-Saharan African.
We all saw Arnold Vosloo in 'The Mummy'...
By that logic he was a 100% confirmed South African.
wow, i thought they had a lot of sources for their claims about Imhotep, thank you for the explanation.
Multi-genius? Perhaps they were trying to say polymath but didn't know the word.
They certainly meant that but also clearly too stupid to know that.
@@YouAintGotNoTegridyBoi Not knowing a word doesn't make someone stupid. There are thousands of English words I don't know and I assume this is true of you as well, unless you have an unprecedented vocabulary.
@@peterwalton4165 I accept that no one is able to know the entire vocabulary of any language let alone English, but making up a word in an attempt to appear smart is a sign of stupidity.
multi -genius? Perhaps legend in his own lunch time.
There's a very simple explanation: the concept of the Polymath has never existed in the African brain, let alone the multiple expertise that warrant the title.
This crackpot afro-centric rewriting of history reminds me of that TV comedy series years ago 'Goodness Gracious Me' which featured an Indian family living in Britain. The son, born and raised in the UK, was always quarreling with his father who had an obsessive indo-centric view of the world and was convinced that all the great artists, composers and scientists were Indian.
Of course the programme was making gentle fun of Indians in general who in the main probably don't actually hold such beliefs but at least have a cultural history lasting thousands of years behind them which would justify such a notion that the world's scientific and artistic achievements originated in the sub-continent.
Much like China people project achievements of Nations and Individuals on themselves.Even though they killed off their whole middle and upper class educated during the cultural revolution. I could say as a Brit I am of Isambard Kingdom Brunel's line. The truth is that my great grandfather a contemporary was a cigar roller. Still we could say he rolled his cigars lol.
That was exact what I thought. I liked it so much that I adapted it for my own nationality... I replaced Indian with X
Man....you guys are harsh. Take it easy.
Yall cracks are funny
Love your content!! You are dropping interesting facts and your delivery is great. No lame gimmicks or e-begging just right down to business.
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Thank you so much for your time and effort in sharing your knowledge & ideas.
It is a valuable contribution
You're very welcome.
On a lighter note, the guy playing Imhotep in ‘the mummy’ looks like my old A level History teacher.
munchkin42 you could be right. And he went to Oxford too, no doubt to keep an eye on the Bembridge scholars.
Well, if he went to Oxford, and taught A level History,. He must have also performed "Dr Jones" and "I'm a Barbie Girl" with Lene Nystrom in Aqua as well. My goodness, the things MTV has put in my head.
South African! Isn't he?
You said "Lighter note".. That's Racist
Thanks for this video. People in Britain today know too little of their own and Western history thanks to poor and politically correct teaching. They are unable to counter this nonsense that civilization began in Africa.
The history books across the world have always been clear that civilisation began in Egypt. The teaching in white schools kept the secret about Egypt being located in Africa. And how would they have reconciled the two concepts; the demonizing of Africans and it's civilisation. This is very simple to understand. I have met lots of people the UK regardless of colour saying the same thing. So, it's not the information that's new, the secret is coming out. And it's not the fault of the so called Afrocentrists (or whatever you want to call them) information is available everywhere for people that want to learn. And how about travel?
I have done some more research and civilization began in Mesopotamia which is now Iraq. Later came Egyptian civilization and they built the pyramids, a fantastic achievement. European civilization was glorious in its own right. I have always known that Egypt is in Africa and no-one has ever taught me otherwise.
@@gertrudekamyaothieno7934 Lol "white schools" never did such a thing. I'm sorry your hatred inhibits you from seeing past the end of your nose.
It's too bad that no African writing systems were developed by Africans, because the amazing African statesmen, Emperors, Kings, martyrs, authors, artists, scientists, architects, physicians, philosophers, astronomers, mathematicians, botanists, explorers, seafarers, merchants, ambassadors, military strategists and heros and all of the other great Africans who had so much influence and importance in the development of mankind, because their own lives and achievements would have been fascinating and inspiring and motivating to read about and learn from..
The only thing I wonder about is that if Africans were the most advanced race on earth, they must have had amazing memories to record and retain all of the technical, diplomatic, artistic, scientific, etc knowledge and expertise that they achieved long before the rest of the world, because they didn't bother to document and record and share everything they knew, they didn't even bother to develop maps, charts, compasses, navigation technologies, advanced ship building and the other stuff that the rest of the world needed, they just got in their canoes and sailed the oceans, bringing African achievements and developments and civilisation to every group from the native Americans, the Iberians, the Melanesian Islands, the Inca, Aztec and Mayans, the Caribs and Arawaks, Greeks, Phoenicians, Romans, Persians, Arabs, Norsemen, Celts, Anglo Saxons, the list goes on and on..
I'm not going to be suprised to hear some Afrocentric intellectual and historian to claim that the Japanese samurai and the Mongol empire, the Mogul empire, the Terracotta Warriors and the Great Wall of China, as well as Buddha and the Hindu deities and everything else was discovered or invented or planned for by Africans, but the other question I have is that if Africans were responsible for successfully discovering and conquering and civilising the whole world, why didn't they do the same in their own continent??
I'm glad that I am not part of the racial group that is usually considered to be the least civilised, the poorest, the most undeveloped, the least successful in education and economics, sciences, technology, industrial development and financial importance etc, as well as being well known as being much more violent towards themselves and others in almost every place that has a black community, as well as being very bitter and envious of others achievements but unwilling to accept responsibility for their own position in regards to the rest of mankind, I can understand why they like to believe in fantasies and farfetched claims, because no one wants to be in the lowest level in so many things, but it's just how it is and it is pointless to make up a better and more important image and history.
No doubt I'll be seen as a rabid racist but I think that most of what I say can be backed up by genuine evidence and proof.
Thank you from the bottom of my heart for being so brave. Funny how people usually picture brave men as huge and powerful. God help us, we will win. The weak will not inherit the earth. The strong and forthright will. And thank you again for your bravery.
I'm not sure how brave I am in making RUclips videos, but I'm glad that you like them!
@@HistoryDebunkedsimonwebb its because he's thanking you on behalf of the white race i assume. As if by making this video you proved an African wasn't black but white.
@@HistoryDebunkedsimonwebb for the record he was subsaharan african...stop saying afrocentric when you are eurocentric...please its just not correct information.
@@stillgotfaith Afrocentrism is the blackwashing of European history. Eurocentrism isn't possible in a European society.
@@stillgotfaith Was not sub Saharan and neither was any other Egyptian until the Nubian Pharaohs near the end.
There used to be a load of statues and plaques for Imhotep. Lots of cats named after him. Couldn't move around Egypt without seeing his name and likeness. Then it was found that he'd said the wrong thing about the wrong person back in his teens, and was cancelled by the population at large. Statues torn down, plaques and engravings defaced - within a couple of months he'd been almost erased from history, leaving only the fragmentary evidence of his existence we have now. Cats were OK though, they just got nicknames, but they didn't live the several thousand years to tell their truth.
really enjoying these, thanks.
You're very welcome!
He tries to turn black history white.
Don’t learn from this guy. Clearly is jealous of black ppl.
@@BlackSuan_513 Which black history is he trying to turn white? I have never heard him saying that subsaharan africans were white . NEVER.
@@st3019 he Delusional
Imhotep - the original Mary Sue!
Having visited Saqquara, It appeared to me, that the step pyramid was constructed using mud bricks, not small limestone blocks.
The whole black Egyptian claim can be seen for what it is, by the simple expedient of viewing the artwork the Egyptians left of themselves.
Did the ancient Egyptians look more or less similar to Nubians and Bantu peoples, or did they look nothing like them?
I have to conclude, the ancient Egyptians took great pains to differentiate themselves from Nubians and Bantu people, both in skin tone and facial features.
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The building blocks of saqquara must have been heavily degraded over time, as they appear to be made of mud, with a heavy layer of crumbled debris at the pyramid base.
Much like the rose granite casing stones of the great pyramid, that you can see at the base of the pyramid at some locations, it must have looked spectacular with limestone/marble casing stones at the top of the the pyramid
Did they look more Ethiopian Somalian or pale Arab?
Imhotep wuz 'ere.....
Khufu said the same thing...
Unrelated. Asha Logos. Our subverted history. Great channel as is yours.
Love Asha Logos, God bless him and his work.
@@shaiaheyes2c41 me to I wish he would continue his work on our subverted history. Is the phoenix project up?
@@OldTerrible I think so, but haven't checked for a while. He was suppose to release a new video one of these days.
"History is a pack of lies agreed upon." -Napoleon Bonaparte
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Thank you!
I'm learning a lot of archæological methodology and historical methodology from you. Well done!
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Modern Egyptians I have met would certainly not accept to be referred to as "Black Africans", They see themselves as people of the Middle East, whatever their geographical location right on the far northern edge of a particular landmass may rather lazily suggest as bestowing some kind of cultural affinity with people from sub-Saharan Africa or really from anywhere in geographical Africa, except perhaps those North African countries bordering the Mediterranean. The touting of the achievements of the ancient Egyptian civilisation by people from most of the rest of geographical Africa as actually "proving" something culturally worthwhile in relation to themselves is complete and utter nonsense. Right from earliest recorded history, Egypt has looked east, not south. As Egypt does today.
They clearly said themselves that they come from the South! Called the land of Punt, the land of the gods! So! Plz!😏
@@guillaumerusengo9371 No, the Land of Punt was around present-day Somalia or Djibouti. The Egyptians traded with that area for gold, as they traded with many other places but they did not come from there. So! Wrong! Plz!
@@girlgirl4548 I did not said they did! But coming from the South, they were clear about that. The civilization grew from upper Egypt and then moved North, a swampy land, they clearly despised and wrote about!.
@@guillaumerusengo9371 Some Egyptians having come from the southern part of the same country is not at all what you were meaning or implying in your reference to "the South" and to "the land of Punt" - and you know it. Haha! Nice try but back to the books for you!
Btw, the same site here has posted a video on "Black Egypt" which also demolishes any claim that "Black Egyptians" built the civilisation of Ancient Egypt, which is the point at issue here.
ruclips.net/video/DRVX6tEyyGs/видео.html
Good luck with your much needed further studies.
@@girlgirl4548 Wonder how you know what I really mean? Tripping! And Whatever made you think that this channel is all knowledge got you. I don't!
the last time i was this early, Imhotep hadn't created the foundations of the modern western world.
@Ario as Pierre Trudeau once said... "never explain, never apologise"
naughteedesign he did before Europeans did. I call that a foundation
Ca yes they swam across fool, swimming is racist too ya know
1:56 oh, Imhotep was grand vizier. Astonishing, seeing how that was an office held by those in the islamic world, and islam was made up centuries after Imhotep allegedly lived. Truly, a man that transcends time itself!
Another great video. Taita, the character from the River God series of books by Wilbur Smith alludes to the myth of Imhotep. I never realised how little evidence remains of Imhotep. Simon, what's your take on the Egyptian achievements? One thing that's always puzzled me is their advanced knowledge of masonry accrued in such a relatively short time. We are always told such feats aren't possible using today's technology. Could Egypt be older than mainstream archaeology makes out? What's your take on the archaic king lists which are dismissed by scholars?
The river god and all Wilbur Smith books were great books I learned to read better with them haven't met many people who have Read them Taita was my man ! Lol
I would love to see you do some real history on black cultures.
Tbh, he’s the only guy I’d trust.
They didn't have any system of writing until it was introduced through invasion by the Egyptians and Arabs. Things surely happened in Africa over the last twenty thousand years, but we mostly only have genetic evidence, and not writings as we do from Sumeria, Israel, and Egypt.
@@danbaumann8273 because your racist and you believe his idiotic views lol. There only his opinions and no facts no evidence to prove anything he says. Idk 🤷🏾♂️ when everything he’s said has been debunked. Ask a question I’ll point you to the source or link
There is literally stories about the man all around the world for 1000s of years after his death. The man literally changed the world, helped and taught so many people that he lives on as a god. Yes he was black but the point should be that this man was the 1st man in history to be written about/documented for being a master of multiple disciplines. His genius was used to help people and that changed the world. It's sad that focus is strongly on proving him to be anything other than a black african and also proving that he couldn't have been a genius. Why all the hate! World history is long and full of great accomplishments.
@Brass Balls I don't care about colour, however If you want to believe he's Caucasian that's your business. All cultures have an interesting history with accomplishments. Open your eyes and stop focusing on outdated stupid views that have been disproven.
There are only two references about him
@@Blobby192 There's no way you looked. Half of the Greek scholars alone mention him.
@@curtsoulonline like the content creator said there is virtually nothing about him from the time he was around,you have to start there
And he was from Wakanda
Irrespective of all the other nonsense, what did Imhotep have to do with "Africans" (if by that word is meant sub-Saharan Africans)? As a brief glance at a map of North Africa will show, Egypt lies at the very northern edge of the Sahara. In fact, it is a good deal closer to the heart of Europe than to sub-Saharan Africa. Egyptians do not and did not look the slightest bit like Black Africans, and their language was of the same Semitic family as the Arabic that replaced it. This supposedly pro-Black "Woke" nonsense is doing a great disservice to the reputation of Black people, many of whom are not taken in by it.
I agree with most of what you say, but just a minor correction, Egyptian was/is not a Semitic language, it was/is an Afro-Asiatic language. The Egyptian and Semitic languages are both Afro-Asiatic languages, as are the Berber, Chadic, Omotic and Cushitic languages.
Though it's important to state that the Ancient Egyptians originated in the Levant Neolithic (genetically very closely related to later Levantines such as the Canaanites) and migrated south into the Nile Delta and beyond; not, as blacks would wish for us to believe, originating south of the Sahara and them being black. Modern Egyptians have minor Sub-Saharan ancestry (due to Islamic slave trade) that is non-existent in their ancient ancestors, as per aDNA.
Egypt has always been intimately connected, not to south of the Sahara, but to the Middle East.
I thought everyone knew that nothing happened until the British taught Africa, Asia and Americas how to do it.
It seems clear from the deification that Imhotep made an impression on posterity. So he was probably an important personage. What I do not understand is what is this guy singled out as a *black* genius. It is likely Imhotep was an administrator involved in construction of the pyramid of Zoser, and probably employed architects and engineers to assist with its construction, I see no reason what they would not all be the same color as Imhotep.
As an aside, I find it hard to believe that civilization spread from Sumer to Eqypt, as you imply, as opposed to the two developing in parallel. Most of the dating I have seen for Menes/Narmer implies a date of about 3000 BC, which is very early and before the establishment of large-scale states in Mesopotamia (e.g. Sargon's empire, or the hegemonic efforts of Lugalzagesi and other strongmen before him).
I didn't mean to imply that civilisation spread from Sumer to Egypt. They were both developing at the same time and it was often hard to say what started when and where. Sorry, I didn't make myself clear.
There is no philosophy before the Greek. For various reasons. Also 'eastern philosophy', isnt philosophy.
Egyptians were never black Africans. They still arent. There are some blacks in the south mostly; Nubians. You see plenty of em round Aswan. Doesnt look like they mingled a lot over those 3000+ years, bc then you would see more in the north aswell, mixed race, etc. Instead you see well defined lines where each lives. Still today.
@ptah-rek fear-none
I graduated university in the 80ies kid; philosophy.
Instead of asking why there is no philosophy prior to the Greek, you just babble nonsense.
No Socrates didnt drink hemlock (its not even hemlock btw) for some vague reason you describe here.
He was condemned (by the people he knew well) for 'being a bad influence on the youth'. All he had to do was apologize, but he choose truth and death.
There are a couple of distinct reasons why philosophy starts at the Greek and no where else. For one, there is no structure of reasoning which was mandatory from Greek philosophy onward. And that defines philosophy. There is no other philosophy. Which doesnt imply there was no knowledge. It merely means the methods to get to such knowledge are different. For instance that are many wise expressions in eastern mysticism, but there is no proces of reason leading to that knowledge. There is no method of proof.
Which is precisely what aristotle is mainly known for.
However it is true that their knowledge was partly based on Egypt and before them, mesopotamia. Partly, bc the initial presumed low development of Europeans has largely been refuted last few decades.
The Gaul, Germanic/Kelts were actually pretty developed. Romans destroyed most of that legacy by building their constructs on top of what used to be others'.
Romans were of the same peoples btw.
@ptah-rek fear-none Prove it, idiot.
StofStuiver so you believe this bullsh!t is King Tut? hiddenincatours.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Tut-Face.jpg
How the Egyptians depicted Tut & his wife- thumbs-prod.si-cdn.com/gw86CryHtTj3gB4a72QanCMLZ8A=/800x600/filters:no_upscale()/public-media.si-cdn.com/filer/6b/6f/6b6f5916-33f8-4355-ac91-36948f37d565/cb002330.jpg
Amenhotep, Tut’s grandfather- qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-81084293e396eb674ce21bbf81c01c58
Sennefer, mayor of Thebes - www.flickr.com/photos/prof_richard/4158108920/
Irrefutable evidence that the ancient Egyptians were dark skinned Africans! Only a pathetic, ignorant imbecile could look at these images and still believe that the ancient Egyptians were not “black” Africans!
Egyptian mummies have skull morphologies of middle eastern features
Correct
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Ancient Egyptians were not genetically black Africans but the Kerma Kingdom, the Kush kingdom, the Axum Kingdom were founded by black Africans. Their achievements were remarkable.Even in architecture.
@antonio torcoli I think it does make more sense to promote a positive mythic ideal and factual history in all peoples and direct that toward a socio-political agenda that creates strong ethnic/racial identities and homogeneous nations. A positive ideal that was both universalist & collectivist could elevate each individual and shut out the parasitism of the global elite.
I personally know that I'm not a multi-genius pyramid builder and healer; it's the international aliens that take great joy in smashing groups together or disintegrating them from within.
HOKUM excellent answer bro, history and culture should unite, not divide mankind. Schools and Universities should teach history whitout nationalistic,racist and religious biases.
They were black pls don't use that bs study as reference
Ryan Pennington .There are plenty of recent genetic studies that clarify the genetic background of the Ancient Egyptians. The most complete and compelling is the following: Schuenemann V.J. et al. Nature Commun. 8 , 15694 (2017).
@@hokum4438 Thank you for that insight.
The Andites along the Nile
From the times of the terminal Andite migrations, culture declined in the Euphrates valley, and the immediate center of civilization shifted to the valley of the Nile. Egypt became the successor of Mesopotamia as the headquarters of the most advanced group on earth.
The Nile valley began to suffer from floods shortly before the Mesopotamian valleys but fared much better. This early setback was more than compensated by the continuing stream of Andite immigrants, so that the culture of Egypt, though really derived from the Euphrates region, seemed to forge ahead. But in 5000 B.C., during the flood period in Mesopotamia, there were seven distinct groups of human beings in Egypt; all of them, save one, came from Mesopotamia.
When the last exodus from the Euphrates valley occurred, Egypt was fortunate in gaining so many of the most skillful artists and artisans. These Andite artisans found themselves quite at home in that they were thoroughly familiar with river life, its floods, irrigations, and dry seasons. They enjoyed the sheltered position of the Nile valley; they were there much less subject to hostile raids and attacks than along the Euphrates. And they added greatly to the metalworking skill of the Egyptians. Here they worked iron ores coming from Mount Sinai instead of from the Black Sea regions.
The Egyptians very early assembled their municipal deities into an elaborate national system of gods. They developed an extensive theology and had an equally extensive but burdensome priesthood. Several different leaders sought to revive the remnants of the early religious teachings of the Sethites, but these endeavors were short-lived. The Andites built the first stone structures in Egypt. The first and most exquisite of the stone pyramids was erected by Imhotep, an Andite architectural genius, while serving as prime minister. Previous buildings had been constructed of brick, and while many stone structures had been erected in different parts of the world, this was the first in Egypt. But the art of building steadily declined from the days of this great architect.
This brilliant epoch of culture was cut short by internal warfare along the Nile, and the country was soon overrun, as Mesopotamia had been, by the inferior tribes from inhospitable Arabia and by the blacks from the south. As a result, social progress steadily declined for more than five hundred years. Ref. The Urantia Book
They named a shampoo after him
Until Mr. Webb is freed from content prison, I’ll watch the old videos.
Somewhat easier to be an expert in a subject in an era when you could learn all that was then known about it in a long weekend.
Best thing he did? Yes the Austin Mini.
It seems like the encyclopedia Britannica is a little more certain about Imhotep, although they list no references except the inscription to which you refer. Here is the first description: It's interesting that carefully arranged words can give more or less credence to certain ideas.
Imhotep, Greek Imouthes, (born 27th century BCE, Memphis, Egypt), vizier, sage, architect, astrologer, and chief minister to Djoser (reigned 2630-2611 BCE), the second king of Egypt’s third dynasty, who was later worshipped as the god of medicine in Egypt and in Greece, where he was identified with the Greek god of medicine, Asclepius. He is considered to have been the architect of the step pyramid built at the necropolis of Ṣaqqārah in the city of Memphis. The oldest extant monument of hewn stone known to the world, the pyramid consists of six steps and attains a height of 200 feet (61 metres).
Have you ever looked into the idea to resets? I have heard a few people postulate about various ancient civilisations that have been buried etc. Some of the arguments seem legit others seem a bit of a stretch. Is there anything in it?
Lmao
Please sir, can you provide a presentation about Christopher Columbus?
Medieval and Belle Epoque architecture show, even Europeans need economic liberty in order to create a beautiful world.
Well how about this...Imhotep DEFINITELY WASN'T WHITE!
Interesting, please look up Robin Walker (if you’re not aware of him). There are a number of people who seem unjustifiably offended when ever black history is brought up. A fairly recent example Cheddar man, I’m sure “Afrocentrism” wasn’t behind that. It supports the theory of Mitochondrial Eve, modern day science also backs up the idea. I’ve subscribed because you have content that is looking at things from a different angle, I hope you’re open minded enough to take in new information without feeling the need to “debunk” because it makes you feel uncomfortable. Cognitive dissonance is happening on both sides.
Him not-so hotep, but did he walk sideways?
He, he, he! 😃
Excellent points.
Maybe he was a gentleman, a scholar and an acrobat.
A veritable Black Panther, if you will.
@@rbrowne2998 or a pirate of the high seas
Da truf be rawciss! We wuz kangs
By "multigenius" do they mean "polymath"?
Interesting to see what type of ppl get drawn into the comment section.
Gee, all the 'ancient alien' crowd will be upset by these Afrocentric claims.
R u kidding? The ancient alien crowd, ie. Robert Bauvaul, pushes the Afrocentric claims. Besides, who built the African Stonehenge, Nabta Playa, Africans, no?
@@ArmchairPhilosopher360 Oh well, a lot of these crackpots must like to bind their flakey pseudosciences together, which is rather sad and pathetic.
I'd never really heard of Nabta Playa, so I just looked it up.
It's a Neolithic ring of stones about 4 metres across in Africa.
Why did you mention it?
@@tsopmocful1958 Respectfully, who built it? is it really that clear black Africans didn't? It's NOT clear Egyptians did. God bless you.
@@ArmchairPhilosopher360 Well I wouldn't have a clue who built it, so you'll have to ask the archaeologists about that one.
But what has Nabta Playa got to do with either this video or my first comment?
Not at all this is actually a good video. Shows ancient Africans came from greatnesses and excellence
Wanting something to be true, doesn't make it true...
By the way, Simon, perhaps you'd care to investigate black Beethoven which seems to be gaining some traction with these loonies?
Yes, the black Beethoven things has been around for decades and lately become very popular.
@@HistoryDebunkedsimonwebb Strange, isn't it, how they always ascribe blackness to intelligent and/or saintly figures, never their opposites. One never sees, say, Vlad the Impaler being championed by the Afrocentrics.
@@christophernewman5027 Good point.
@@wirlinmerlin9400 And, of course, the person has to have died before photography was invented. So, Beethoven can be touted as being black (despite numerous paintings and even his death mask) but Brahms is a non-starter.
Ah, yes... it’s rearing it’s ugly head again (and I don’t mean Beethoven ha ha). Just because the sketch artist used a 4 bloody B pencil for heaven’s sake! What about the painted mug shots of him as a rosy cheeked fella? But, no - we can throw out all that because of one underexposed looking portrait. These folks are ill 😷. Great topic for ridicule though 👍
African and genius are 2 words that will never go together.
You seem a retard yourself. Who was involved in the co- establishment of the internet systems - a Nigerian, space mathematics to land on the moon was literally done by three african black women. Inventions come from all races. What have you invented yourself?
The top mathematics students in Britain are largely Nigerian and Indian
I think he was the main villain in The Mummy. He got buried alive with scarab beatles and then came back to life. However, Imhotep turned out not to be a genius at all, for he was easily outwitted by the main character and hero of the movie, a European archaeologist and adventurer 😄😄
Given that the sole evidence for Egyptian Mathematics is the Rhind Papyrus and for earlier African Mathematics is the Ishangi Bone. Most of these claims may be dismissed for lack of evidence. The concept that one man was solely responsible for all these alleged developments simply beggars belief.
If not Imhotep then the great Hottentot was the genius. In either case, it was hot.
Polymath I Believe the word is
I believe there is very little evidence for the existence of this Imhotep. He is supposed to have designed the Step Pyramid of the Pharoah Djoser. He later became elevated to the status of a god, especially of medicine. The Greeks worshipped him as Imouthes.
I would say "Invented"...."contribute" is the word I'd use👌🏾
Don't let any of this distract you from the fact that Bubba-hotep is a Bruce Campbell movie.
Actually he was from Brooklyn.
Memphis
I asked, no preyed to saint for euro lotto win and you know what? Lost another £2.50
Information gleaned from the vast libraries of Wakanda?
Ancient Egypt did have a black monarchy during the Cushite Kingdom around 700BC. That was 2000 years after Imhotep. It only lasted about 65 years. The Cushite Kingdom was subjugated by Amenhotep III in 2500 BC. It is inreresting to note that in tne Book of Numbers Chapter 12:1 Moses is criticized by his brother Aaron and sister Miriam for marrying a Cushite woman. No mention of his first wife Zipporah the daughter of Jethro.
Last time i checked axum was a semitic civilization which was a continuation of another semitic civilization called d'mt which was under the control of saba which is an even older semitic civilization that existed in yemen and northeastern ethiopia/eritrea
Any right minded Person should despise those who lie for political reasons
I take it the claim that modern doctors study Imhotep's work is more flannel.
Must admit the first video I saw felt a bit anti-African as there seem to be a bit smirking and derogatory tone and therefore was therefore was suspicious of motivation. Having viewed several more I have been convinced you seem to be more than fair and facts do seem to check out so hence I have subscribed.
"Anti-African" = realistic.
Imhotep had trouble with his 'fallen arches' and TwoTonCarmen let her cat poop in his pyramid.
Verified by an Abbott and Costello movie. That just about sums up Black History Month.
I am unable to see any visuals for this post. It is audio only.
I have been to Saqqara, & associate Imhotep with its construction, nothing more, nothing less. It is essentially a stacking of mastabas of decreasing size. And, as you say, Imhotep’s deification is nothing unusual in the ancient world.🤷♀️
I'd highly doubt medical students study Imhotep.
Lol, its like saint nicholas. Just because he is the patron saint of prostitutes. Doesn't mean he is one.
What evidence is there that Imhotep was African?
Slightly off topic but since mathematics was at issue, I once saw/read some research that showed the numbering system we call "Arabic numerals" actually originated in India.
I have deliberately avoided going into Imhotep's ethnicity, because I talked a few days ago about whether or not Egyptians at that time could properly be consider black Africans. This video focuses entirely upon his supposed achievements.
The best crank I've heard peddle this yarn is a (white) Belgian named Robert Bauval in his book, Imhotep the African. You can find his presentations on RUclips, too.
@@HistoryDebunkedsimonwebb I understand.
@@ArmchairPhilosopher360 Robert Bauval is hugely popular with black history buffs, for his book Black Genesis.
@@HistoryDebunkedsimonwebb Yes. Absolutely. But, who built Nabta Playa, the African Stonehenge? It mighta been black people, no?
I fucking love this channel. This man has amazing racist takes on africans
I've enjoyed Breasted. Thanks again.
As a Scientologist, I have the answers. ( Only kidding)
Help Please?
" There's a green eyed ,yellow ? God,
To the north of Katmandu."
Anyone know thePoet ,poem???
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looks like they have been reading Wilbur Smith
I didn't know that Imhotep was Black. He brings to mind the stereotype of most other high level advisers to kings, pharaohs, and politicians. A shrewd cunning self serving politician in his own right.
He was African, wasn't he? You see, there is a dotted line that runs along the Suez Canal. On one side you are sub-Saharan African. On the other, you are a pink skinned Caucasian.
@@erynlasgalen1949 I think Suez is in North Africa. Sub-Saharan Africa starts below and does not include Egypt.
@@thecasualcitizen492 I think you missed the facetiousness in my remark. I mean, forget where the continent does or doesn't end. Sub-Saharan Africans claiming Egypt is like the Swedes claiming Rome and its accomplishments.
The devil came to lie, steal, kill and destroy. Remind anybody of anyone.
perhaps they could do a film on his achievements but they have stopped making carry on films
What books have you written on this? Coz lets be honest a whole enclave of historians cant be wrong
OK, so we might believe that Imhotep was a brilliant cosmic genius who outshone Einstein, Leonardo da Vinci, Dr. Albert Schweitzer, etc. etc., if we actually had any real evidence for any of that. The question surely must be that there surely must have been a few more 'Imhoteps' before, at the same time and later. just like Einstein, Leonardo, etc. etc. were by no means isolated examples of their times. So what went so disastrously wrong - assuming, of course that 'Imhotep' isn't just a bit of an exaggeration or fabrication to begin with?
Some of the history needs to be revised because some historians today say they can't say how the pyramids were build. The works of Graham Hancock
They have tons of stuff about how the pyramids were built from tools used to plans dating back from the time they were built its alien freaks that try to muddy the waters
They can't stand the original man.
He was European. Blonde hair blue eyed mummies. Look it up.
.wonder who from west mud huts to pyramids 🤗
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Leaving sub-Saharan Africa for North Africa and Egypt, around 5000 BC, afrocentrists took with them all the supports and symbols of sub-Saharan knowledge and put it into practice in Egypt; at the same time, they destroy any clue or trace of civilization and knowledge in black Africa, that is why this Africa has kept neither vestige nor memory of its ancient glory. The cultural, civilizational and scientific underdevelopment of sub-Saharan Africa is therefore the work of these Afro-centrists who deprived Africa of its knowledge for the benefit of Egypt.
The first-time sub Saharan Africa was used in modern texts was in the early 80s. You can't find the term even in old newspapers. FACT
African? Yes. Black? No.
It’s great that so many people like these videos, but how many of you will take up the fight and publicly challenge these inaccurate, Afrocentric ideas, talking to teachers, etc.
On the healing/doctor issue, possibly the saints analogy work well as the connection between being a patron saint and the actual actions of the person are vague. Did St Paul become patron saint of travelers because he carried a little boy over a river?
So, no record of road construction, ensuring safety of the highway or new design of carts/boats etc?
Close but no chocolate biscuit , it was St. Christopher, he carried the little boy Jesus across a river