The Most Pointless Stadium In Scotland

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  • Опубликовано: 16 ноя 2024

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  • @starshot131
    @starshot131 Месяц назад +30

    A few notes from a qp fan... The sfa supposedly only paid about £3m of the Hampden deal, with the rest coming from haughey to develop lesser. The plans for a South stand were not put into place which means the capacity is only ~950, not the 1400 you mentioned. This also means there's even more capacity for expansion. If you ask any qp fan they'd tell you they'd rather be playing at a fit for purpose lesser, but any complaints we have fall on deaf ears (see the Gary templeman interview on footy adventures, good video). Also worth noting that lesser was in fact finished by the end of the first championship season and we played our first league home game against Arbroath there last season, before moving to big Hampden. Most fans assumed this would be so we could "finish" lesser, but no work happened. Farsical from the committee

    • @CallumBlyth
      @CallumBlyth  Месяц назад +2

      Yeah I got so used to looking at the planning documents I forgot that they hadn’t built the south stand

    • @fattomandeibu
      @fattomandeibu Месяц назад +2

      Been to Hampden as an away fan with Berwick back in the day, and yeah, it's an abysmal experience in a near empty stadium where any banter is near impossible, and if I was a QP man I'd defo be wanting to have matches at a more suitable venue.

    • @lewissmith350
      @lewissmith350 Месяц назад

      ​@@fattomandeibuWas it like the jasper carrott joke, where he turns to the man next to him at Birmingham and shouts, hey,

    • @fattomandeibu
      @fattomandeibu Месяц назад +1

      @@lewissmith350 Yeah, kinda. You also have stewards that repeatedly shout at you to sit down all match long despite the fact that there's no one behind you for at least 5 rows. It's really weird.

  • @RandomDudeOYT
    @RandomDudeOYT Месяц назад +20

    Learning Switzerland doesn’t have an official Capital was the second most interesting part of the video.

    • @paulberry2884
      @paulberry2884 Месяц назад +2

      That's an interesting discussion. I lived in Zurich and Bern is considered the capital. Whether its de facto or de jure is irrelevant, it's the administrative capital with the government and foreign embassies. The national team plays in the Wankdorf district of Bern. Nauru is officially the only country without an administrative capital.

    • @scottytremaineplays9461
      @scottytremaineplays9461 Месяц назад +2

      It’s Bern. And they play at the home of Young Boys 😢 (Thun fan here)

  • @les_chegwin
    @les_chegwin Месяц назад +17

    It's almost like they had two different factions in club management with conflicting goals. One faction in charge of building the team which had an aim to go professional and end up in the Championship. The other being in charge of building the stadium with the assumption that they'd pingpong between L1/L2, and neither faction ever spoke to each other.

    • @CallumBlyth
      @CallumBlyth  Месяц назад +6

      It’s such an obvious case of mismanagement or lack of forward planning. Even if you only want to have the 2 proper stands at least have some terracing as a temporary solution just in case

    • @les_chegwin
      @les_chegwin Месяц назад +2

      @@CallumBlyth Right! Or even just deal with the fact that every game is a sellout for a while, and in the meantime moving on with plans to add temporary seating, or a more permanent one. It's maddening

    • @CallumBlyth
      @CallumBlyth  Месяц назад +2

      Couldn’t believe it when I’d seen the planned capacity was 1450 for the 2 stands

  • @jamesgolder373
    @jamesgolder373 Месяц назад +3

    Other than it's history of matches back when tvs hadn't been invented Hampden park has been an absolute embarrassment for a long time when we were growing up we lived in the high flats in mount Florida which was literally across the road from the stadium and we'd go down there and play football on the reserve pitch which was just before the actual stadium this was back in the 80s and even then Hampden was a dump they need to build a new national stadium or play Scotland's international games at either ibrox or parkhead if they want to keep it in a football venue because murrayfield is trash aswell

  • @toph8298
    @toph8298 Месяц назад +4

    I love QP but the club probably progressed too quickly. We were promoted to the Championship almost by accident and in retrospect it was a relief we never went up to the top flight in 2023.

    • @CallumBlyth
      @CallumBlyth  Месяц назад +1

      Yeah that promotion to the championship when looking at the league table was a miracle looking back

  • @alexbowman7582
    @alexbowman7582 Месяц назад +13

    Surely the misleadingly named Rugby Park should be retitled the Kiliseum.

    • @CallumBlyth
      @CallumBlyth  Месяц назад +3

      @@alexbowman7582 that’s an excellent name, Killie need to get that sorted asap

    • @alexbowman7582
      @alexbowman7582 Месяц назад +2

      @@CallumBlyththe kil part is thought to be circle same as col in coliseum, collar or collumn.

    • @grizzywald
      @grizzywald Месяц назад +3

      there's an historical aspect to that name which I'm glad is still maintained - at the time the Kilmarnock club was formed in 1869, there were no universally agreed rules of football and Kilmarnock chose many elements of rugby in their rules eg throwing the ball in perpendicularly at throw-ins, scoring by touching the ball down if it crossed the goalline (used to decide games if goals were level) - as opposed to Queens Park and the teams they inspired who adopted Football Association rules. Wasn't until the Scottish Football league was formed in 1873 that they dropped them. So the name wasn't misleading for 4 years

    • @alexbowman7582
      @alexbowman7582 Месяц назад

      @@grizzywald I’m not a homopbic but I rugby even the balls bent

    • @pauls3204
      @pauls3204 Месяц назад +1

      Hacker ville

  • @tonysutton6559
    @tonysutton6559 Месяц назад +5

    You could become the new Archibald Leitch with your sensible stadium plans.
    Make sure that you build a stand with multiple gabled roofs and a clock on the halfway line like the old one at Molineux which was made famous by Wolves floodlit games against the best teams in Europe inthe 1950s.

    • @CallumBlyth
      @CallumBlyth  Месяц назад +2

      @@tonysutton6559 I’m a fan of his work to be fair

  • @stumcg3255
    @stumcg3255 Месяц назад +2

    It’s a crap athletics stadium whether QP or Scotland play in it. When compared to the great stadiums it’s so far from them, it’s sad it’s our home stadium.

  • @InTheKM
    @InTheKM Месяц назад +4

    Loving the content mate. Just curious - which software do you use for editing? I currently use OBS Studio for screen capture and Da Vinci Resolve for editing. I want to incorporate more memes into my videos similar to you 👍

  • @loganclark1206
    @loganclark1206 Месяц назад +7

    5 million pounds for hampden is a bargain

    • @CallumBlyth
      @CallumBlyth  Месяц назад +2

      £96 a seat roughly, not a bad deal at all

    • @pato2200
      @pato2200 Месяц назад

      What was the cut for future revenue?

  • @truecrimescotsman
    @truecrimescotsman Месяц назад +2

    Build a proper football terrace in the north end, with cool crush barriers and stuff. A "kop end" could add perhaps 2500 to the capacity and would be fantastic.

    • @SVD978
      @SVD978 Месяц назад

      Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was under the impression that terracing wasn't allowed anymore

    • @truecrimescotsman
      @truecrimescotsman Месяц назад

      @@SVD978 Yes you are wrong, the Taylor report was never law in Scotland, standing was banned in the top flight in Scotland under the 10,000 all seated rule but those rules have been "relaxed" (abandoned because they were daft) and now standing is permitted at all football matches in Scotland.

  • @phlegmkessel4841
    @phlegmkessel4841 Месяц назад +1

    Note for the National Stadiums, Canada's is in Toronto and not in the capital of Ottawa.

    • @CallumBlyth
      @CallumBlyth  Месяц назад

      Canada play theirs around the country (or at least used to, the list I was using may not have updated it)

    • @phlegmkessel4841
      @phlegmkessel4841 Месяц назад +1

      @@CallumBlyth they used to until BMO Field was built in 2007. They still periodically play home games in other parts if the country, but the National Stadium is BMO Field in Toronto.

    • @CallumBlyth
      @CallumBlyth  Месяц назад

      I see, thanks for clarifying

  • @herbertvonzinderneuf8547
    @herbertvonzinderneuf8547 Месяц назад

    I enjoyed all that. Much of it was new to me, but I rather doubt the SFA were ever seriously thinking about moving their HQ to Edinburgh. Just part of the ploy to get their hands on Hampden.

  • @mabozar15
    @mabozar15 Месяц назад +2

    They have built a stadium purposefully for where they will inevitably end up owing to their poor management. Third or Forth tier. They just don't want to use it right now, because the 2nd tier have too many fans for such a small ground and they want to bring the biggest crowds in as possible.

    • @mabozar15
      @mabozar15 Месяц назад

      Too busy installing heated padded seats than bringing fans to the club

    • @CallumBlyth
      @CallumBlyth  Месяц назад

      To be fair those director seats do look comfy

    • @mabozar15
      @mabozar15 Месяц назад

      @CallumBlyth doesn't increase the number of fans though. Money wasted. Not that I'm complaining. I just wish my club has £5M to spend. At least I know it would be invested well.

    • @mabozar15
      @mabozar15 Месяц назад

      @CallumBlyth stadium announcer can't even see the pitch. Has to rely on a 2-way radio. Nonsense

  • @ScottishHenry
    @ScottishHenry Месяц назад +2

    I mean i always hate watching football games at hampden unless scotland is playing there i didn't even watch a rangers game while we were at hampden it was always quiet

    • @CallumBlyth
      @CallumBlyth  Месяц назад +2

      I’ll be going to the Raith game against QP in November, going to be so strange when it’s basically empty.

  • @stuartibbertson2009
    @stuartibbertson2009 Месяц назад +2

    fantastic vidoe there ground looks more like a Training ground than a stadium

    • @CallumBlyth
      @CallumBlyth  Месяц назад +2

      It has become a glorified training ground at the moment. I’d imagine they’d rectify the capacity issue soon enough though.

    • @thesmithersy
      @thesmithersy Месяц назад

      @@CallumBlyth No wonder the SFA did it on the cheap. They just wanted a training ground for scotland and really didn't care that one of the oldest clubs in Scotland still had to play in the leagues and accommodate fans.

  • @RobertsonHH
    @RobertsonHH Месяц назад +1

    Lithuania also don't play in their capital (Vilnius) but rather in Kaunas. At least for the time being

    • @CallumBlyth
      @CallumBlyth  Месяц назад +1

      @@RobertsonHH I had it in the list originally but it’s a really weird situation with them. HITC Sevens did a really good video on it

  • @bobsteele9581
    @bobsteele9581 Месяц назад +1

    Good video Callum. I reckon hiring you wouldn't be the worst idea for them 😉

  • @callumatkins6891
    @callumatkins6891 Месяц назад

    Why didn’t they atleast build a standard terrace behind one goal and a temporary structure seared stand behind the other for away fans that can hold 1.5k atleast to suit big followings ? Can’t be that difficult

  • @davidhamil5912
    @davidhamil5912 Месяц назад

    Does anyone know if the club has the money left to put Callum's plans in motion if they wanted to? The video suggests they will have burned through that £5m already on the redevelopment so far plus player and staff costs. Also why did they knock the clubhouse thing down instead of keeping it as a bit of history and to give the place some character? Surely they could have built round it if need be.

    • @CallumBlyth
      @CallumBlyth  Месяц назад +1

      @davidhamil5912 I’ll get my trusted business associate Ketan Makwana to fund it

  • @pauls3204
    @pauls3204 Месяц назад +2

    QP could realistically get there average up to 5000 is in the premier or maybe even much more as Celtic rangers st mirren would all bring a hoard or travelling support as would Hibs Dons n Hearts and Killie .

    • @herbertvonzinderneuf8547
      @herbertvonzinderneuf8547 Месяц назад

      My local pub team could get their average up to 5000, if they were in the Premier.

  • @albertmiller2electricbooga897
    @albertmiller2electricbooga897 Месяц назад +1

    After the Commonwealth Games (if they even happen) should Hampden just become rectangular? Keep a little bit of running track for the memories like Murrayfield

    • @CallumBlyth
      @CallumBlyth  Месяц назад

      They keep talking about redeveloping it so hopefully it does get a rebuild to be less shit

    • @RW-nr6bh
      @RW-nr6bh Месяц назад

      ​@@CallumBlyth Hampden needs the kind of redevelopment that Wembley, The Principality Stadium and Lansdowne Road all had, with the old stadium being wiped from existence completely and a totally new stadium on the site arising. The oval shape is no use for football and totally unnecessary; there is no speedway or greyhound racing there.
      I have been to Hampden to both visit the museum and subsequently to watch an Airdrie match. It's not terrible, it's better appointed than Old Trafford, but everyone knows that Old Trafford is a tired and spartan stadium, and it's now rather dated (although possibly less than Ibrox, but I've never been to Ibrox).

    • @CallumBlyth
      @CallumBlyth  Месяц назад

      @@RW-nr6bh aye that’s what I’m meaning, no excuse for the seats behind the goal to be so far away from the pitch

    • @thesmithersy
      @thesmithersy Месяц назад

      The problem is they messed up the redevelopment in 2000, they went for a capacity that was too low and to expand it to correct the mistake would cost even more money that the SFA clearly don't have.

    • @County22
      @County22 Месяц назад

      Don’t think there’s plans to use Hampden again for the Commonwealth Games - it’s going to be Scotsoun. Pretty sure the last time the ‘athletics build’ was a one off and would require exactly the same build again.

  • @rerooar
    @rerooar Месяц назад +1

    Surly Murryfield would be better for football because it doesn't have (a full) running track around it?

    • @CallumBlyth
      @CallumBlyth  Месяц назад +4

      Murryfield and Hampden have the same issue that sitting behind the goal is quite a distance from the pitch. Rugby pitch dimensions cause an issue with it.

    • @rerooar
      @rerooar Месяц назад

      @@CallumBlyth Yeah makes sense, I mean I've never been to Hampden so I have no idea but it looks really far away at the ends. Ultimately a purpose built facility will always be better, I just don't understand why stadiums are ruined with athletics tracks just for 1 event like a commonwealth games and then decades of a worse experience for the people actually using the stadium, crazy.

  • @classaction3965
    @classaction3965 Месяц назад

    You missed out that the SFA and the SRU are in talks again about sharing a stadium and that the new new new Hampden Park is falling down as is Murrayfield stadium!

    • @CallumBlyth
      @CallumBlyth  Месяц назад +1

      @@classaction3965 Might have come out after the video went up. I certainly didn’t hear about it whilst researching

    • @classaction3965
      @classaction3965 Месяц назад

      @@CallumBlyth It probably was after you made the video. Rumours are that they are in talks about moving to a new 80,000 stadium built around Edinburgh Park station and the Gyle shopping centre as all the office space is empty.

    • @CallumBlyth
      @CallumBlyth  Месяц назад

      @@classaction3965 interesting, wouldn’t be against it as it would have a lot better public transport connections

    • @classaction3965
      @classaction3965 Месяц назад

      @@CallumBlyth it would be ideal as there’s Edinburgh Park on the main Glasgow/Edinburgh line and the tram Edinburgh Gateway to connect with the east coast line.

  • @alanbaird82
    @alanbaird82 Месяц назад +1

    Berne is the Swiss capital.

  • @struanmellis9984
    @struanmellis9984 Месяц назад +1

    another callum blyth banger

    • @CallumBlyth
      @CallumBlyth  Месяц назад

      You know who else makes bangers, Glowwworms (not sponsored although I am open to them)

  • @thesmithersy
    @thesmithersy Месяц назад +1

    The problem is that Queen's Park got blackmailed by the SFA to sell Hampden to them on the cheap, otherwise they'd have moved all the Scotland games to Murrayfield and left a giant maintenance bill on a 52k capacity stadium for the then-amateur club to pick up. That would have ruined them. Lesser Hampden is a complete missed opportunity, especially when the SFA did it up on the cheap. £3m for a stadium is ridiculous, for context my local community rugby club has been offered a new 7m capacity ground and clubhouse by developers.

  • @robtyman4281
    @robtyman4281 Месяц назад +2

    Switzerland have a capital city - it's Berne.
    And no need to apologise re Taiwan/Chinese Taipei. Everyone knows that the island is called 'Taiwan'; it's only China who refer to it as 'Chinese Taipei' - no one else does.

    • @TonySpike
      @TonySpike 24 дня назад

      No, ....no it dosnt, Bern is only the administrative center of switzerland not its official capital

    • @robtyman4281
      @robtyman4281 24 дня назад

      @@TonySpike ...this is what a 'capital city' is! - it's overall adminstration central eg. Washington DC, London, Paris, Rome, The Hague etc.
      Zurich may be its financial capital, but when you say the phrase 'capital city', most people think you mean the 'administrative' capital city (where a country's government is based)......even if this city is not a country's financial capital. So in that respect, yes - Berne is Switzerland's overall capital city.

  • @Andrew-rd4ig
    @Andrew-rd4ig Месяц назад

    Queens Park Stadium, one of the worst grounds you could ever step foot on👟💩

  • @stevemalta1
    @stevemalta1 Месяц назад

    Malta doesn’t play in their capital Valletta

    • @CallumBlyth
      @CallumBlyth  Месяц назад +1

      Can’t believe I didn’t mention them, I was there not too long ago

  • @Anonymoususer_8823
    @Anonymoususer_8823 Месяц назад

    Can’t be as bad than going to Stadium MK where MK Dons are and they are known for being the worst team in England.

    • @CallumBlyth
      @CallumBlyth  Месяц назад

      I mean at least they use that stadium

  • @albatech79
    @albatech79 Месяц назад

    Haughey has ridden them dry!

  • @donaldgrieve5953
    @donaldgrieve5953 Месяц назад

    right next door to the worst stadium in scotland

  • @aroemaliuged4776
    @aroemaliuged4776 Месяц назад

    Too many old committee men

  • @nicolamarchbank1846
    @nicolamarchbank1846 Месяц назад

    The problem I think is that there are actually two national stadiums and relying for cost stability on the long-term growth of a non-Premier League team as the principal tenant who hold the tenancy for mostly historic reasons and don't appear to have a plausible strategy to both get into the PL and stay there, thus necessitating a larger ground, is unwise.
    QPR seem to be in the position that Queen of the South (who have ZERO chance of replacing their clapped out, crumbling grounds) were in about 2014/15 promotion to the Premier League was plausible but the club was in that close but no cigar zone and lacked any sort of vision for what to do if they actually made it and worse, survived there. I don't think anyone took the idea of QPR in the Championships seriously at the time, which is a serious lack of foresight to me. Using the National Stadium as a club ground does undermine the notion that it is a National Stadium and provides a counter-narrative that its really just QPR Park and the SFU are allowed to use it when their tenant's don't need it. From a branding and financial point of view, the deal no matter how it is looked at, is messy, not really satisfactory for either party and forced by the need to try to do two things at once but neither particularly successfully or sustainably.
    Ultimately, irrespective of what the future of QPR actually is, we don't actually need both Hampden and Murrayfield, that makes the financial situation of both unnecessarily complex given how how easily adaptable a football ground is to convert to hosting rugby or American and Canadian rules football (see the use of football venues for NFL games in London) and vice versa. The English with their much bigger population and tax-base can afford to run Twickenham and Wembley as separate entities and rent themselves out as an when they are required without having to worry about these very issues. This suggests a lack of actual fore-thought on the part of funding agencies, including the Millennium Commission who funded this most recent version of Hampden and that we are a bit of an outlier compared to most other places who have some sort of gridiron based game alongside soccer.
    Politically yes, trying to get the SFA and SRU to agree to share a ground would be sensitive and the cultures that underpin both games are different, but it would largely address a lot of the financial issues for both organisations and necessitate QPR's use of the much more suitable Lesser Hampden full-time whilst freeing up Murrayfield for refurbishment and redevelopment to account for flexible seating capacity needs (let's say 30,000 as standard allowing for more attendence at matches, with extra levels opening out for special events) as an answer for the Edinburgh team's longer term issues with their grounds, whilst still providing a viable source of income as a concert and events venue.

  • @Batmandarkknight.
    @Batmandarkknight. Месяц назад

    Writing of tax

  • @gordonmurray2631
    @gordonmurray2631 Месяц назад

    Hampden is both a dump & an embarrassment, end of!

  • @manaburden2909
    @manaburden2909 Месяц назад

    Fir - Hull pal😉

  • @sovietonion72
    @sovietonion72 Месяц назад

    Switzerland does have a capitol city Bern.

  • @RossParker1877
    @RossParker1877 Месяц назад +3

    Ludere causa Ludendi alive and well with that mob

    • @CallumBlyth
      @CallumBlyth  Месяц назад +3

      For the sake of playing about with stadiums

  • @ThirdLanark-f5y
    @ThirdLanark-f5y Месяц назад

    A new ground in Glasgow for Clyde FC?

    • @CallumBlyth
      @CallumBlyth  Месяц назад

      @@ThirdLanark-f5y they were looking at their own in crowpoint near parkhead, something I’m looking to get round to is the situation with Clyde

    • @ThirdLanark-f5y
      @ThirdLanark-f5y Месяц назад

      @CallumBlyth that deal fell through. They were looking at the hockey stadium across from Glasgow Green too....Crownpoint went to the locals

  • @jamesrowe3606
    @jamesrowe3606 Месяц назад

    As Fergus McCann once said, having a national football stadium in Scotland is as pointless as having a national supermarket. It's a white elephant.

  • @mervynhardy6161
    @mervynhardy6161 Месяц назад

    What on earth is the trash in aid of at the start.

  • @TheVanpablo79
    @TheVanpablo79 Месяц назад +2

    Glasgow is the true capital. Edinburgh is the seat of English power in Scotland.

    • @CallumBlyth
      @CallumBlyth  Месяц назад +3

      We all know the true capital is Perth

    • @LB1973
      @LB1973 Месяц назад

      Edinburgh was capital from way before the union

    • @McGrory69
      @McGrory69 Месяц назад +1

      @@LB1973 Like most places outside the old industrial heartlands Edinburgh is full of English and may as well be down there.

    • @RW-nr6bh
      @RW-nr6bh Месяц назад

      ​@@McGrory69 Perhaps Edinburgh and the border country could split and join England and the rest of Scotland could become independent. After all we've had a century of uninterrupted peace and harmony since we did similar to Ireland. 😂

    • @Scott-bh2qb
      @Scott-bh2qb Месяц назад +1

      Glasgow was the muscle of the British empire all of Glasgow’s buildings have been built on the backs of British slave trade. Edinburgh has the Old town built before British rule, Glasgow is the only fully British city in Scotland, hence no old town.

  • @gb194
    @gb194 Месяц назад

    QP anti football fan, tried to lock Dundee fans out of championship decider.
    Never forgiven.

    • @CallumBlyth
      @CallumBlyth  Месяц назад

      God I remember that. Maybe that what the plan was all along

    • @starshot131
      @starshot131 Месяц назад +2

      We sold out our home allocation and attempted to use a section of the standing allocation for home fans, which the sfa blocked. Don't talk shite

    • @gb194
      @gb194 Месяц назад

      @@starshot131 lol, you reduced capacity of away end, denied fans the chance to see title decider......you had aboot 56 fans .....so don't talk shite

    • @starshot131
      @starshot131 Месяц назад

      @@gb194 I was at the game. Dundee had the exact same away allocation everyone else did, and we did indeed sell out the main stand. In fact, the game was televised, so you can check that for yourself if you don't believe me :)

    • @gb194
      @gb194 Месяц назад

      @@starshot131 no they didnt they limited the capacity.......so beat it

  • @celtictothecore1888
    @celtictothecore1888 Месяц назад

    Naw broadwood is