John, you can use the conduit clamps, but you can also use spade thumb bolts and wingnuts and lock washers and washers. You don't have to drill holes if you use 4 feet which is a little more stable. I use the holes in the bottom and the appropriate size bolt setup. The beauty is that you can rotate the feet and put them under the container for storage in a sack. I like the Walmart ditty bags that are (3) for $5 to put my stove in. And you can use the different size bags for different size stoves. With that setup of thumb bolts, wingnuts, and lock washers you can tighten the legs in or out. Another neat idea is to cut a couple of holes in the bottom across from each other so you can put long pieces of wood in stove. See Survival Lilly's video. Lastly, you can use a 5" stainless Oatey shower drain from Lowes. It has 4 little tabs on the bottom. Bend them vertical and it fits on top PERFECTLY. You can also use the stakes found at Walmart. A pair (or 3) of the cheapest metal stakes in the camping area can be inserted at various heights and you can then support different fuel options such as an alcohol stove or maybe those fuel tablets. Another neat way to make a pot stand on the top, and one I like better is to get a chicken grill beer can stand for a grill also sold at Lowes and bend the side down on each side of the stove so that the ring sits on top and then get a stake and pend it to hold the two sides that have been bent down and flattened and bent in such a way that the top is held on. If you look up the Fancy Feast Cat alcohol stove and make it the right height you can transport that with you to make a highly versatile and inexpensive stove. The Oatey shower drain is about $5 3-5 metal stakes are about .50 each. The thick round stakes that are about a dollar each will also work in the stove. Depending on your design. The stuff sacks at Walmart are $5 for (3) so you can use for a couple of stoves and/or have leftover sacks The beer can chicken grill stand can be had for about $5 Tape a piece of paracord to the bottom of your BIC lighter to secure to the bag drawstrings with it handing on the top. And, the feet cost abput $7 for (4) 3/4? conduit clamps, (4) 1/4? lock washers, (4) wing nuts and up to (16) flat washers depending on how you want to do it. And, I made the small stove and was able to fit a small round tin combustion kit in the stuff sack with the stove. I love this little versatile stove because it is easy, there is no setup, and because something like a Stanley set will nest right in side of it. I like to take this out when hiking for the day. I also like to keep one filled up with dried wood, some cotton ball and/or dryer lint and some processed and full size fat wood and put in a stuff sack with a lighter in my truck so I always have one of these stove.
They sell the taller can at Walmart for under $4.00 .. "unmodified of course." - In case anyone doesn't have an IKEA in their city like I don't. My only quip about it is that they aren't really made for backpacking or bushcrafting. Great for camping or home use though.
I have the one Walmart sells and it is close enough to the IKEA version to work with. I also agree with you about the backing stove. One of my first videos shows my kit that I made. I'll find the link and post it to you so you can tell me what you think
@@deletefundz thank you, I started this channel way back when to share ideas in the same way that I learn from other people's vids. I like it that you literally carried on the tradition with those folks today. Thanks for watching. I have some other how to vids with other stove and bushcrafting ideas on here that you are welcome to check out if you're interested
Back in Boy Scouts, we made our own cookers similar to this from coffee cans. Great to see you using the flint and steel to light it! I was one of the few in our troop that was proficient with that. Wow, that's a trip back 40 years! Thanks for the video! Great idea for survival times or "off-gridding".
Funny that you bring that up. Several years ago I did an Appalachian trail trip with my nephew's troop. They don't let them build them anymore so I was the only one that had a coffee can hobo stove. There was a burn ban unless it was contained so I was the only one that could have any kind of "camp fire" . He and I were the only ones that camped in hammocks also. The scouts have changed a lot
@@survivorjohnny44 I miss the old times. Boy Scouts were only for boys growing into manhood not girls wanting to be boys. I learned so much then, I'll never forget the skills I learned and taught others. Let's try to teach our skills to others today!
I taught a few Survival and Preparedness classes at a place called True Prep and a few paid classes. Then me and some friends did a few Survival meet-ups and it was as fun for me as it was for them (except for the friction fires I never really liked doing that, lol)
@@survivorjohnny44 friction fires? Is that like the old rubbing sticks together? I was never good at that. Give me the flint and steel and I was making fire! Been a long time, but I think I could still do it. With all this covid-19 stuff going on, I just want to get out of here! Throw me in the woods with my basics and I'd be happy. I've got 30 acres in rural northern Minnesota I could go to and play old man boy scout on. Now that the weather is starting to mellow out, I just may do that!
@@mikemcgown6362 that sounds like a great time. I would have a heck of a hard time doing it in the winter so I can relate to letting the weather settle down some first
Thanks for posting the IKEA links. I've tried numerous times searching their site for Hobo or stove with no luck. Didn't realize it was a modification of another product!
John that's brilliant - I'd never heard about 3-legged stool vs. 4-legged stool, but it makes perfect sense. I really like the way the conduit-clamp feet are wider than the stove for stability. Can they be loosened and re-tightened so you can twist them inward for transport and then twist them back out again when you're ready to use the stove? Also, thanks a bunch for demonstrating the burn. It's one of my pet peeves, too, when these vids show the making of a stove but not the actual use of one.
Lol, I HAVE to see the burn test. Ok, first-yes- if you use a couple of washers on both sides of the clamps they can be turned for storage but you may need to use your multi tool to tighten them occasionally. Second, thank you for the very kind words. I really appriciate them
If you added small grooves in the top and laid a piece if coat hanger across the top you could put a smaller cup/container on the stove. If your cup is smaller than the top of the stove it would fall into the fire. This is just a "just in case" you don't have your normal cup with you. I want to make one myself. Yours works great. Thanks so much for showing it.
4 tent pegs (or DIY equivalents) make adjustable supports for both alcohol stoves and pots such as the Stanley. By using 4 it is easy to maintain the best spacing between the burner and pot, regardless of the size of either one. 4 tent pegs, along with an appropriately sized tin can lid makes a good pot support and platform for solid fuel tabs, with the same height adjustment ability. Same principle applies to use with Sterno or chafing fuel cans. Turns this wood burner into a multi-fuel stove. Keep a large can lid with the stove to use under it as a fire protection mat when using stove on a picnic table, tailgate, or other surface to be protected from hot coals.
I love my Ikea stove. These stoves are awesome and require minimal "setup" to get going. I found a tin that fits inside and I can nest the Stanley Adventure Cup with a bandana in it. I like your older stove. I painted those conduit clamps with some grill spray paint and it looks nicer than the "patina' top and then the shiney feet.. I used spade screws, lock washers, and wing nuts to make the feet easily rotatable and then tightenable. I used (4) feet to make it a little more stable. And, I made the feed hole a litlte smaller but made one on the other side to stick long sticks through. Additionally, I have a few "grills" for it, but prefer the light computer fan cover.
Your comment is so full of "WIN!!" I have to thank you for posting it. Of course you already know that love these things too. I also enjoy messing around with hobo stoves so I have several videos on those too
I like the way you did this and the feet will fold out of the way also plus you can make the cross peices very easy to make a complete cook kit when done right and it will all fit together nicely. Keep up the good work.
Excellent demonstration. Could use stainless steel skewers crossing through the holes if the cup or pot you had to use was narrower in diameter and set it just inside the first row of holes, I suppose.
You do have the right solution. If you use a Stanley pot or similar size you would need to do that. Thanks for the "value added" comment and thanks for watching
i thought I had replied to your comment already but I'm not seeing it so I must have forgotten to tap the post button. a pot stand also allows for different sized pots so they never hurt to use
Great little demo, I'll have to think about those legs/feet as I can definitely see the advantage of having the unit off the ground but could be a problem when backpacking, something to ponder on!! Thanks for the vid!!
Thanks for the kind words. The little extra width makes them a lot more stable on uneven ground. I bet you could come up with a way to twist the feet under the stove for storage
Yeah, just don't tighten up the screws too much on the legs then turn them inwards when you're done, you'd have to readjust the screws occasionally but that's no big deal!!
Hi, I’d just like to throw another idea at you. Use a stainless cat or dog dish from a thrift shop,drill a hole in bottom and clamp it on bottom upside down with one nut and bolt. It works I’ve done it and it’s more stable.
John Tewelow hi you just mark inside the IKEA stove onto the cat dish then take it apart and drill holes in cat dish. Then side wall of cat dish drill 4 equally spaced out small holes then Use a step drill to make them bigger
Very good video. I saw another youtuber make a 3 part video that totaled over an hour to do what you did in 5 minutes. And he didn't even show it burn.
This comment actually made me laugh a little so I want to thank you for the smile. I have been caught up in some how-to videos that never seemed to end too. Thanks for the encouraging words
Cut four slots on the top edge take two pieces of metal cut a halfway slot on each in the middle then set them together to make a cross and put it into the four slots on the edge of the stove as an extra pot support for slightly bigger pots or a frying pan.
Ha! That's pretty funny. I wish I could take credit for the idea but I just made up some improvements to make it more stable. Thanks for watching and a chuckle
Nice demo Johnny. You can get a similar, unit at China Mart (4 5/8" o.d by 7 1/4 "tall and 6.2 oz) for about $4.00. Found the IKEA's on Amazon also. I like the conduit clamp legs. I also found that they are really great for drying silverware
+John “survivor johnny” Tewelow Yes, it is. How many "MADE IN AMERICA" items do you really see in Walley World. They have several large ships that run from China to the US bringing foreign made goods and go back with empty containers. I'm trying to much more aware of where the items I buy are made.
+Chain saw cabinet Shop going back with empty containers is the part that bothers me. In my opinion we should use whatever import laws the country we are buying from uses. I.e. You don't import? Neither do we. You charge high import taxes, so do we and so on. ,
+John “survivor johnny” Tewelow We could have a very long discussion about keeping jobs at home. But that is another day. I just posted very crude videos, one on the assembly and one on the burn test of the version that I made. I just went to the deep freeze in the old chuck wagon and took a nice ground steak patty out to thaw. May set up the camera and redo the burn test from the start and actually cook something useful. All of this "prepper stuff" was just the way of life when I grew up. We didn't have the option of burning wood or adjusting the thermostat. I was chop for freeze.
have you tried pushig a few tent pegs across the bottom about 1.5 inches up,the loose,burnt ash can drop into that space like any log fire,and letting it breathe/burn a little better-just a thought, as i,ve just started work on one of these-niice vid
The tent pegs are a very valid and functional idea. I like to make hobo stoves out of stainless steel canisters too. On them I like to use something called hardware cloth for an elevated floor. I love comments like your's that show genuine thought and helpful ideas/suggestions
always keepin track,and trying different basic low tek tackle-plus i love messin with fires and of course being british and over 45 had to light fires EVERY morning for heating
Re: I like to make hobo stoves out of stainless steel canisters too. Q: John, Where is a good source + who has best price for SS Canisters?.. What is the UPC, proper name it's called?
John awesome builds well thought-out question where can I get them monster Ferro rods. any idea and do you sell these kits already made hobo kits. if you do very interested . thank you God bless
www.ebay.com/itm/144216559503 I'm sorry it took so long to reply. I'm also sorry that I don't have any stove kits to sell but if I make any to sell I will let you know by posting another reply for you here. I was however able to get a link for the exact phariseeum rod in the video. mine is years old now if you look at the date I posted the video. it is still going strong with plenty of life in it and I cannot give a stronger recommendation for a product that I have used.
I am new to this idea. I've seen a few videos and I appreciate your explanation that you used a dremel tool. I was wondering how people made the cuts. I thought maybe using a grinder tool. Great idea. I like how you did the stand off on the bottom.
Ha! That's funny cuz I did something like that too. It took me a while to figure out that IKEA was a store and not a name brand that I could buy somewhere else
Hi John. I have watched all your stove builds. I like them all, I have a tip to mention. I have built one of your hobo stoves, I used a electric element off a wrecked stove as a pot holder. I like your wire pot holders, do you have a video on how to make them? Regards George Jeckells
first I'd like to thank you for the good tip and the compliment. I have done videos on 2 channels so I'll take a bit and check them both to see if I can find a link to post for you back here. I can tell you that now I mostly just drill a hole on 4 sides (opposing each other) and slide 2 pieces of a stiff wire (like a thick coat hanger) thru so they cross in the middle like an X
also if the pot you use is wider then the top of the stove you could put the same conduit clamps I use for feet on the top to hold the pot off and let the smoke and heat vent out the top under the pot
@@survivorjohnny44 Thanks for the tip about the conduit legs and wire. I like the idea of using hand sanitizer to start your stove. Regards George Jeckells
I have both the IKEA and the WM. Side by side they are a little different and the WM is a little thinner but you could use it for the same effect. Thanks for the compliment about the feet
Love the conduit clamps for feet, brilliant. I would have made the feed door a bit higher, what do you think? But I'm definitely going to try this. Much better than a coffee can. Thanks!
stockholm17 thank you for the kind words. yes, a higher geed door would help contain the hot holes and allow for top feeding so its a good idea. it is not shown in this video but I also like an elongated triangle door with the wider part at the top
Very nice. The inverted triangle you are now using, how large a triangle did you use? I really like the three legged conduit clamps. Just wondering about using wing nuts for traveling. My thoughts are to put the bolts in the holes, tighten the bolts to the stove base with a locks and nuts. The clamps could the be placed over the bolts and wing nuts hand tighten to hold to stove base. When the stove has cooled undo the wing nuts ... What do you think?
Ken wing nuts are a great upgrade so you can rotate the feet more easily. for the triangle you can use the existing holes for a guide. I don't have it in front on me right now for a proper hole count but go about 2/3 of the height and 1 full hole section for width at the top of the triangle. I haven't been able to get around having semi circle hole edges that can snag fabric when its stowed tho. Maybe you can figure out something. I made a great stove out of a stainless steel kitchen canister that I really like. its one of my newer videos. It was for a youtube friend named Nathan4071 and he shows it in use. my video is just the build
Ken to add to idea of wing nuts, they also sell thumb turn bolts that have a sort of paddle shaped head so you wouldn't need any tools to set it up and take it down
Has anyone considered or made one of these upside down so that the bottom becomes a grate? I like the idea of using the large one of these and being able to use a variety of pot sizes. Think I may be getting a few to tinker with Friday when I goto Ikea.
Chris Rasmussen I didnt show it this video but I often make a grill top that you can see in some of my other stove videos. these wood stoves sure are fun to use and make
Thanks and you are correct about this being a good match for an alcohol stove. You just need some metal cross bars (coat hanger will work) to lift the stove so that you have just more than an inch or 3cm from the top of the stove to the bottom of the pot on top of the IKEA. I recommend at least 2 crossbars and experiment with the height and stability before you add the alcohol to the stove I should also say that depending on what type of stove you use that 1 inch or 3cm gap will very. If you roll towards the bottom of my videos I show some how to vids for several types of stoves
MetaView7 thanks for watching and commenting. I am using an inverted triangle now so the bottom of the hole is more narrow than the top. easy feeding and still easy to light from the bottom. it also helps keep the coals from falling out
+Howard azmat the beautiful thing about a DIY stove is that you employ your ideas and see the results. I would say if you want to do it, give it a try. If you find it doesn't do what you expected you can simply remove them. The feet I put on these allows the air to flow up they the bottom but if you did cross bolts it may aid the airflow. I would say give it a try and if you do a video please post a link here so we can see it. Thanks for watching and you have anymore questions feel free to ask
With this version it is better to top feed by lifting your pot and just lighting the fire from the side hole towards the bottom. You can change the hole's size and shape to more of a triangle wider at the top (for feeding fuel) and narrow at the bottom (to hold in the hot coals) to add fuel from the side without lifting your pan
very nice .i bought one of those utensil holders at the dollarama a few days ago. it was a shorter one and i got it to use as a windscreen for an alcohol stove . looks like i gotta buy some more. and dremel cut off disks too i suppose
+Len Burton thanks for watching Len. If I have to choose between a dremel or an angle grinder with a cut of wheel I'm going with the angle grinder from now on. It's way faster and the disk doesn't need to be replaced 5 or 6 times. I recently made another one of these and that angle grinder with a cut off wheel sure made it quicker
I'm using 1/2" in this video but 3/4 or 1 " would be good if you use a wing nut so you can rotate them under the stove for transport. The wing nuts should let you loosen and tighten much more easily. The bigger the conduit clamps the wider the stance so the higher the stability
Several dremel discs were harmed in the making of this hobo stove- when one single cutting disc on an angle grinder would have sufficed….and then some..😉👍🏻
It's true, you are correct. It's harder to get into the corner cuts on a coffee can hobo stove but there was no real need to use a Dremel for this project
I'm very glad to hear that you will be building yours and we have shared some build ideas. If you do the feet to elevate the floor it will let air flow up thru the bottom and get a more complete burn. Thanks for watching brother
I saw that and bought a couple since they are really cheap. there are no seams in the one from IKEA and the one from Wal-Mart is bigger (thats a good thing) but its not as strong (but strong enough). the Wal-Mart one should work fine. if you look thru the comments for this video, a channel called Chainsaw Cabnet Shop made a couple of vids using the one from Wal-Mart and it's just fine. thanks for watching brother and for the tip for those that haven't seen em
I think the shorter one would work better if you wanted to use an alcohol stove. Their would be less chance for the heat from the smaller alcohol fire to dissipate. I checked the links you provided and the price differential is less than 50 cents. So the bigger one would be a better choice if you want to burn wood and the like. Do you have a trangia stoves to test it?
Dan Morgan I like your thinking and you do have a very valid point. either a spacer block under the stove to raise it or crossbars thru the stove to lower the pot inside or a shorter stove are the choices
John Tewelow The penny stoves I've built need a solid surface to rest on like a jar lid. Pour the alcohol over the stove and ignite. With that in mind you could put your stove closer to the top by putting a couple metal tent stakes under the jar lid. I think it would be more stable if it was a triangular setup. The stove would be closer to the top since all the holes line up very well. Since the stoves are so light I don't think it would adversely effect the balance. Certainly, not as much as the cook pot resting on the top of the stove would. Bonus points if you use another set of metal tent stakes to allow the smaller diameter cook pot to rest inside the stove with the first pair used to raise the stove a bit.
Why, thank you very much. That is a very nice thing to say. It's not gear related but have you checked out Jos Townsend and Sons youtube channel? It's more for reenacting the colonial era but they are good videos with some period knowledge.
@@survivorjohnny44 The only recommendation to four legs over three is, the legs are closer together. On a three-legged stove, if you have a pot offset toward a gap between legs (or too much fuel in that area of the stove) it could become unstable easier, as a four-legged stove doesn't have such a large gap between legs. I think the innate stability of three legs is worth it.
I saw your comment on the coffee video but it doesn't show in the feed to reply. That flash light is 4 D cell LED so holding it in my mouth would be tricky. I feel like I owe you money for sticking with that video for that long, lol
+MrJoeyBoombotz that really developed from a "touch hole" where I light the stove from then widened out. Newer versions I have made have a kind of upside down triangle for lighting and feeding. Thanks for the view and comment. If you need me to elaborate let me know
Yes, it is similar and I have picked up a couple to mess around with but the Walmart version is not as well made with thinner metal. It does still work for making this style of stove and it's a great find. Thanks for mentioning it
Great video. I am going to build a IKEA stove to take hiking. Would you recommend the small or larger size? I was thinking the small size would have greater stability and easier to carry but the larger at have more uses. What do you think????
They are very similar size. The only difference is that large one is a little taller. Since it is taller it will hold more fuel and therefore be a little easier to maintain while in use. You will want a storage back of some sort because of the spot and Ash. I think whichever fits your hiking pack better should be major factor for deciding what size to make. If that isn't a big deal then go with the taller version since it's a little easier to maintain the fire
If you like to feed the stove from the top why don't you make the opening/door a little higher. That way you could drop the sticks in without removing the pot from the top. Just my 2 cents. Let me know if it works out for you. Take care!
You know, it just never occurred to me, lol. When I put the smaller hole toward the bottom its just to light the stove. I may incorporate your suggestion in my next stove. Thanks for the comment and idea
Actually I'm going to be making another one in the next couple of days and will implement the idea. To be honest, I thought of it by watching your video. I was going to make it the same way you did. I'll put up some pictures and maybe a video to share my experience. Keep the videos coming!
kamikazique what i'm thinking is a triangle hole thas wider at the top. We would still have the ability to light tje fire from the bottom (like i do now) and since the hole widens as it goes up we could feed from the the top of the fire (using your improvement) or maybe just 2 holes. A small hole for ignition at the bottom and the feed hole at the top. Just acouple of options. Im gonna sub your channel to follow your progress
I get the picture and it looks promising. As for my channel, I took all my videos down because I'm working on a new channel and I'm going to transfer my videos to that one. I'll make sure to let you know once I have it up and running. It's always good to talk to other like-minded people around here!
Stainless steel is no simple material to cut or drill, depending on thickness. Which dremmel bits or discs and how many did you use? I can’t imagine cutting an opening like that in stainless, it would take forever! Did you have to put oil on the drill bit for the clamp feet holes to keep it cool while drilling? Seems like most of these ikea stove vids overlook the part of the cutting and drilling; It’s a big deal even if you have the tools.
The steel is pretty thin so the drill bit went thru pretty quick so heat wasn't a problem. I used cutting disks for the Dremel but I would thin a good pair of tin snips would cut it too. I think a better design for the hole is an upside down triangle. That allows you to feed wood in but helps keep the hot coals from being able to come out if you stir the wood around. Thanks for watching and I hope my answers help. Feel free to ask more
Agreed. I like a "touch hole" at the bottom to light the fire and prefer to feed wood on top of the fire. The sollution I came up with to fill both needs (on a later model I made) is an inverted triangle side hole. I can light from the bottom and still feed from the top of the fire/coal bed. If I were to do a part 2 or improved version vid, it would be with that upgrade I like the way you think and thanks for watching
I made a kit for a friend of mine and if you watch you may note the smaller "touch hole" to light it at the bottom and the larger feed hole at the top. This was the kit that inspired the next step (being the inverted triangle hole) and it may give you some ideas to further upgrade the stove you make. The kit is made from a set of kitchen canisters but you may also notice the IKEA stove made in the video you commented on as a size compairison. Here is a link to that vid on my friend's channel ruclips.net/video/gIyi0NQ1pkc/видео.html
Christophe Outdoors I would love to see your ideas if you do a vid. Plz comment with a link here if you do. The best thing about our community here is that we can all learn from and teach each other and share our ideas.
Dave Fyffe I haven't torture tested it but I'm sure it would be ok with large pot of water. It would surprise me if it held less than 6 quarts. If you do it, would you mind posting back here? Thanks for watching and commenting
2 questions here... I used a rotary cutting tool for the feed port but after this video I improved the door design and I would recommend an inverted triangle for the door shape. Second, I did use gel hand sanitizer because everything was wet from the rain all that morning. I would prefer Maya Dust made from fatwood because it's a renewable resource when your in the woods. (I would think most people have some hand sanitizer in their first aid kit so pointing out it makes a great fire starter I also good)
+Jose Alexander Gonzalez Echeverria www.ebay.com/itm/Ferrocerium-rod-monster-ferro-rod-flint-rod-firesteel-flintsteel-1-2-diam-x-5-/131535519692?hash=item1ea020bfcc:g:-3AAAOxyNo9SteVt
Went to a swedish IKEA a few days ago, couldn't find the small one... Bought a tall one instead. Kind of weird how i couldn't find any, even asked a few employees.
+Xcango013 I like the tall one better. It has a bigger burn chamber anyway. I would say you could order it online but the shipping would probably be more than the cost of the item. If you do a video on it please post me a link here. I like to see what other people are doing with them. Thanks for the view and the comment
+Tony V I think it probably burned about 5 to 10 minutes. I havnt really done a timer on it like an alcohol stove since there is always more wood to add around here of needed.. Let me know if you want better numbers than that. Thanks for asking
Like having 3 feet instead of four would probably make the feed hole a little higher and not tighten the feet so tight that I couldn’t turn them in when I would transport the bag. I want to say something about the cost. I wouldn’t go to a ikea to get one of these because I find them at thrift stores and garage sales for like a buck. If I was going to spend five or more dollars on something like this I would have to be getting a lot more for my money. as the spring and summer. Approach I can go to garage sales all weekend and find stuff for less than five bucks to cook on for sure . so I guess my comment would be I prefer to put these together as absolutely as cheaply, I mean as less expensive as possible. Tin cans don’t offer the longevity that the Aquia silverware holders do. So I know kids are cheaper but we don’t eat much canned foods that would come from an appropriate sized can you could use from a stove.
Augustus McRae I have made gassifiers and done some How To videos for them on the Innovative solutions channel. im unimpressed. they are to heavy and need far more attention to operate properly. the burn chambers are too small as well. I would rather have a bigger burn chamber and maybe get a little light out of it too. my thinking has evolved from experience and a slightly larger hobo stove is my "go-to" now. thanks for watching brother and I like your comment too. it shows you are thinking of ways to improve it and I respect that
+MrSIXGUNZ how could I not give this comment a thumbs up? Thank you very much I appreciate the compliment. It's not my idea though I only elevated the floor with the feet. I do love small wood burning stoves as well
you made it clear and simple and that helps people that never have made anything or like my self become handy capped over the years. stuff like this can make people smile... making something cool and can be used at any time you want !! Blessings !!
Since these are popular I thought I would show an easy upgrade. I use a cook kit I show in a much older video. Maybe one of my first on this channel. I don't mind soot tho, it cleans off pretty easily with mud and a quick rinse. Thanks for watching
is that the part where I wanted to reassure everyone that there no discs harmed in the making of the video but had to admit that the stainless steel wrecked almost a whole package of them? I enjoyed that
@@survivorjohnny44 That is exactly the info I was looking for actually 😂 so now I know this is not a good idea and I have to look for another option. Thanks! 😁👍
You may be able too or you may be able to use tin snips also. If you have a Harbor Frieght near you they have a dremel nock off (no name brand) for around $10 and it comes with the cut off wheels
I shoot all of my videos on a phone or tablet and I can't hold it while I use power tool but this video shows a little more of the tool while I make another stove. You still won't see me cutting it tho ruclips.net/video/t9aYFuVTWWk/видео.html
If cutting a hole is a surprise to a visitor maybe they will need some more help surviving. Maybe. I suppose if there was no electricity some would have a real problem making this.
John, you can use the conduit clamps, but you can also use spade thumb bolts and wingnuts and lock washers and washers. You don't have to drill holes if you use 4 feet which is a little more stable. I use the holes in the bottom and the appropriate size bolt setup. The beauty is that you can rotate the feet and put them under the container for storage in a sack. I like the Walmart ditty bags that are (3) for $5 to put my stove in. And you can use the different size bags for different size stoves. With that setup of thumb bolts, wingnuts, and lock washers you can tighten the legs in or out. Another neat idea is to cut a couple of holes in the bottom across from each other so you can put long pieces of wood in stove. See Survival Lilly's video. Lastly, you can use a 5" stainless Oatey shower drain from Lowes. It has 4 little tabs on the bottom. Bend them vertical and it fits on top PERFECTLY. You can also use the stakes found at Walmart. A pair (or 3) of the cheapest metal stakes in the camping area can be inserted at various heights and you can then support different fuel options such as an alcohol stove or maybe those fuel tablets. Another neat way to make a pot stand on the top, and one I like better is to get a chicken grill beer can stand for a grill also sold at Lowes and bend the side down on each side of the stove so that the ring sits on top and then get a stake and pend it to hold the two sides that have been bent down and flattened and bent in such a way that the top is held on.
If you look up the Fancy Feast Cat alcohol stove and make it the right height you can transport that with you to make a highly versatile and inexpensive stove.
The Oatey shower drain is about $5
3-5 metal stakes are about .50 each. The thick round stakes that are about a dollar each will also work in the stove. Depending on your design.
The stuff sacks at Walmart are $5 for (3) so you can use for a couple of stoves and/or have leftover sacks
The beer can chicken grill stand can be had for about $5
Tape a piece of paracord to the bottom of your BIC lighter to secure to the bag drawstrings with it handing on the top.
And, the feet cost abput $7 for (4) 3/4? conduit clamps, (4) 1/4? lock washers, (4) wing nuts and up to (16) flat washers depending on how you want to do it.
And, I made the small stove and was able to fit a small round tin combustion kit in the stuff sack with the stove.
I love this little versatile stove because it is easy, there is no setup, and because something like a Stanley set will nest right in side of it. I like to take this out when hiking for the day. I also like to keep one filled up with dried wood, some cotton ball and/or dryer lint and some processed and full size fat wood and put in a stuff sack with a lighter in my truck so I always have one of these stove.
There is so much "value added" comment here! Thanks for posting
So happy to see a bunch of other people with this idea. Found one randomly at Goodwill and thought this would work well.
Ha! That is exactly what happened with me. Have you gotten into alcohol stoves yet? Looks like we have something in common
What do I have a feeling that you know what a D20 is and you have said "I got a critical hit" before
They sell the taller can at Walmart for under $4.00 .. "unmodified of course." - In case anyone doesn't have an IKEA in their city like I don't. My only quip about it is that they aren't really made for backpacking or bushcrafting. Great for camping or home use though.
I have the one Walmart sells and it is close enough to the IKEA version to work with. I also agree with you about the backing stove. One of my first videos shows my kit that I made. I'll find the link and post it to you so you can tell me what you think
Here it is, let me know what you think
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I would put it in you pack 1st,then a bag so you don't get soot everywhere, it is a nice setup though.
I love the conduit clamps . I showed a couple of homeless guys how to build a similar version today.
@@deletefundz thank you, I started this channel way back when to share ideas in the same way that I learn from other people's vids. I like it that you literally carried on the tradition with those folks today. Thanks for watching. I have some other how to vids with other stove and bushcrafting ideas on here that you are welcome to check out if you're interested
Back in Boy Scouts, we made our own cookers similar to this from coffee cans. Great to see you using the flint and steel to light it! I was one of the few in our troop that was proficient with that. Wow, that's a trip back 40 years! Thanks for the video! Great idea for survival times or "off-gridding".
Funny that you bring that up. Several years ago I did an Appalachian trail trip with my nephew's troop. They don't let them build them anymore so I was the only one that had a coffee can hobo stove. There was a burn ban unless it was contained so I was the only one that could have any kind of "camp fire" . He and I were the only ones that camped in hammocks also. The scouts have changed a lot
@@survivorjohnny44 I miss the old times. Boy Scouts were only for boys growing into manhood not girls wanting to be boys. I learned so much then, I'll never forget the skills I learned and taught others. Let's try to teach our skills to others today!
I taught a few Survival and Preparedness classes at a place called True Prep and a few paid classes. Then me and some friends did a few Survival meet-ups and it was as fun for me as it was for them (except for the friction fires I never really liked doing that, lol)
@@survivorjohnny44 friction fires? Is that like the old rubbing sticks together? I was never good at that. Give me the flint and steel and I was making fire! Been a long time, but I think I could still do it. With all this covid-19 stuff going on, I just want to get out of here! Throw me in the woods with my basics and I'd be happy. I've got 30 acres in rural northern Minnesota I could go to and play old man boy scout on. Now that the weather is starting to mellow out, I just may do that!
@@mikemcgown6362 that sounds like a great time. I would have a heck of a hard time doing it in the winter so I can relate to letting the weather settle down some first
Thanks for posting the IKEA links. I've tried numerous times searching their site for Hobo or stove with no luck. Didn't realize it was a modification of another product!
Glad I could help brother. Thanks for watching
When you make yours would you post a link here? I love seeing what everyone is doing and the styles that are being made
Love the conduit clamp idea. I was going to set mine on a small cooling rack but your idea is better. I’ll save the rack for the top.
The rack should make a great topper. Good plan and thanks for complimenting the feet
John that's brilliant - I'd never heard about 3-legged stool vs. 4-legged stool, but it makes perfect sense. I really like the way the conduit-clamp feet are wider than the stove for stability. Can they be loosened and re-tightened so you can twist them inward for transport and then twist them back out again when you're ready to use the stove? Also, thanks a bunch for demonstrating the burn. It's one of my pet peeves, too, when these vids show the making of a stove but not the actual use of one.
Lol, I HAVE to see the burn test. Ok, first-yes- if you use a couple of washers on both sides of the clamps they can be turned for storage but you may need to use your multi tool to tighten them occasionally. Second, thank you for the very kind words. I really appriciate them
If you added small grooves in the top and laid a piece if coat hanger across the top you could put a smaller cup/container on the stove. If your cup is smaller than the top of the stove it would fall into the fire. This is just a "just in case" you don't have your normal cup with you. I want to make one myself. Yours works great. Thanks so much for showing it.
csh 62 thank you and thanks for watching. Some people put tent pegs thru the uppermost holes to make a shelf for the Stanley cook set also
4 tent pegs (or DIY equivalents) make adjustable supports for both alcohol stoves and pots such as the Stanley. By using 4 it is easy to maintain the best spacing between the burner and pot, regardless of the size of either one. 4 tent pegs, along with an appropriately sized tin can lid makes a good pot support and platform for solid fuel tabs, with the same height adjustment ability. Same principle applies to use with Sterno or chafing fuel cans. Turns this wood burner into a multi-fuel stove.
Keep a large can lid with the stove to use under it as a fire protection mat when using stove on a picnic table, tailgate, or other surface to be protected from hot coals.
Oldtimer Lee well thought out my friend. One my first videos on this channel has a stove from a been can with some of those adjustments
I love my Ikea stove. These stoves are awesome and require minimal "setup" to get going. I found a tin that fits inside and I can nest the Stanley Adventure Cup with a bandana in it. I like your older stove. I painted those conduit clamps with some grill spray paint and it looks nicer than the "patina' top and then the shiney feet.. I used spade screws, lock washers, and wing nuts to make the feet easily rotatable and then tightenable. I used (4) feet to make it a little more stable. And, I made the feed hole a litlte smaller but made one on the other side to stick long sticks through. Additionally, I have a few "grills" for it, but prefer the light computer fan cover.
Your comment is so full of "WIN!!" I have to thank you for posting it. Of course you already know that love these things too. I also enjoy messing around with hobo stoves so I have several videos on those too
I like the way you did this and the feet will fold out of the way also plus you can make the cross peices very easy to make a complete cook kit when done right and it will all fit together nicely. Keep up the good work.
That's kind of you to say, thank you. Stoves are fun to make and tweak
Gosh, I have just thrown away one of those from the kitchen. Now it would have come in handy. Nice watching👍
The funny thing is that there are people that would have paid you for it or felt like they got a "big score" finding it at a yard sale
Excellent demonstration. Could use stainless steel skewers crossing through the holes if the cup or pot you had to use was narrower in diameter and set it just inside the first row of holes, I suppose.
You do have the right solution. If you use a Stanley pot or similar size you would need to do that. Thanks for the "value added" comment and thanks for watching
Nice demonstration.
Looks like a very nice little stove and all the better with your modifications.
Thanks for sharing them.
+Edogawa1117 thank you
You do want pot stands. You want the ventilation to come out the top. Your video shows the fire smothering when you put the pot on top
i thought I had replied to your comment already but I'm not seeing it so I must have forgotten to tap the post button. a pot stand also allows for different sized pots so they never hurt to use
Good simple build. I will have to make one or two. Both sizes. Thanks
thanks and have fun. I never really grew up I just changed how I play 😁
Great little demo, I'll have to think about those legs/feet as I can definitely see the advantage of having the unit off the ground but could be a problem when backpacking, something to ponder on!! Thanks for the vid!!
Thanks for the kind words. The little extra width makes them a lot more stable on uneven ground. I bet you could come up with a way to twist the feet under the stove for storage
Yeah, just don't tighten up the screws too much on the legs then turn them inwards when you're done, you'd have to readjust the screws occasionally but that's no big deal!!
Hi, I’d just like to throw another idea at you. Use a stainless cat or dog dish from a thrift shop,drill a hole in bottom and clamp it on bottom upside down with one nut and bolt. It works I’ve done it and it’s more stable.
I like the way you're thinking. Will that still allow the airflow up thru the bottom? It sounds like something fun to experiment with
John Tewelow hi you just mark inside the IKEA stove onto the cat dish then take it apart and drill holes in cat dish. Then side wall of cat dish drill 4 equally spaced out small holes then Use a step drill to make them bigger
@@deepcarlion that would work and it's so simple
I like the conduit clamp idea for the feet....if you used wingnuts, you could easily turn them in when not in use
That is a great idea
The feet are a brilliant idea - thanks for sharing!
+Mike Pook that's very kind and thank you for watching
Nice! Cheap and simple and that´s a good thing!
thats my favorite kind, lol. thanks for watching
Very good video. I saw another youtuber make a 3 part video that totaled over an hour to do what you did in 5 minutes. And he didn't even show it burn.
This comment actually made me laugh a little so I want to thank you for the smile. I have been caught up in some how-to videos that never seemed to end too. Thanks for the encouraging words
Cut four slots on the top edge take two pieces of metal cut a halfway slot on each in the middle then set them together to make a cross and put it into the four slots on the edge of the stove as an extra pot support for slightly bigger pots or a frying pan.
sounds good
Soooo neat, i thought about using our stirring utensil holder for exactly what you did,,,,,,,, but my wife would kill me😝
Ha! That's pretty funny. I wish I could take credit for the idea but I just made up some improvements to make it more stable. Thanks for watching and a chuckle
Nice demo Johnny. You can get a similar, unit at China Mart (4 5/8" o.d by 7 1/4 "tall and 6.2 oz) for about $4.00. Found the IKEA's on Amazon also. I like the conduit clamp legs.
I also found that they are really great for drying silverware
+Chain saw cabinet Shop awesome comment. I laughed when I read the "drying silverware" thanks for the chuckle brother 😀
+Chain saw cabinet Shop is China Mart another name for Walmart? Not being a smart allic but of its not I've never heard of it
+John “survivor johnny” Tewelow Yes, it is. How many "MADE IN AMERICA" items do you really see in Walley World. They have several large ships that run from China to the US bringing foreign made goods and go back with empty containers. I'm trying to much more aware of where the items I buy are made.
+Chain saw cabinet Shop going back with empty containers is the part that bothers me. In my opinion we should use whatever import laws the country we are buying from uses. I.e. You don't import? Neither do we. You charge high import taxes, so do we and so on. ,
+John “survivor johnny” Tewelow We could have a very long discussion about keeping jobs at home. But that is another day.
I just posted very crude videos, one on the assembly and one on the burn test of the version that I made. I just went to the deep freeze in the old chuck wagon and took a nice ground steak patty out to thaw. May set up the camera and redo the burn test from the start and actually cook something useful.
All of this "prepper stuff" was just the way of life when I grew up. We didn't have the option of burning wood or adjusting the thermostat. I was chop for freeze.
have you tried pushig a few tent pegs across the bottom about 1.5 inches up,the loose,burnt ash can drop into that space like any log fire,and letting it breathe/burn a little better-just a thought, as i,ve just started work on one of these-niice vid
The tent pegs are a very valid and functional idea. I like to make hobo stoves out of stainless steel canisters too. On them I like to use something called hardware cloth for an elevated floor. I love comments like your's that show genuine thought and helpful ideas/suggestions
always keepin track,and trying different basic low tek tackle-plus i love messin with fires and of course being british and over 45 had to light fires EVERY morning for heating
Re: I like to make hobo stoves out of stainless steel canisters too.
Q: John, Where is a good source + who has best price for SS Canisters?.. What is the UPC, proper name it's called?
great idea with the conduit clamps. added some to my hobo stove. Thanks
Jeff M thanks brother, we all learn ideas from each other here. I thank you for the compliment
Brilliant work, John! Thanks for sharing this. I'm hooked!!
Patrick Buckley thank you brother, they are addictive. lol
John awesome builds well thought-out question where can I get them monster Ferro rods. any idea and do you sell these kits already made hobo kits. if you do very interested . thank you God bless
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I'm sorry it took so long to reply. I'm also sorry that I don't have any stove kits to sell but if I make any to sell I will let you know by posting another reply for you here. I was however able to get a link for the exact phariseeum rod in the video. mine is years old now if you look at the date I posted the video. it is still going strong with plenty of life in it and I cannot give a stronger recommendation for a product that I have used.
I am new to this idea. I've seen a few videos and I appreciate your explanation that you used a dremel tool. I was wondering how people made the cuts. I thought maybe using a grinder tool. Great idea. I like how you did the stand off on the bottom.
+Wandering Wade thank you for the kind words and I have made one with an angle grinder with a cut off wheel
Thanks my friend for sharing your fine video. I just made two of them. Be safe out there. 🤗
Thank you. I consider this a compliment. Thank you very much
Cool stove brother! I looked for one of those at my local Wallyworld the other day to mess around with but they didn't have any.
They come from a store called "IKEA". If there isn't one in your area they have an online store. I'll BRB and post a link in the description
John Tewelow Thanks John! I had the IKEA name brand mixed up with an IMUSA pot I had got at walmart... embarrassed :)
Ha! That's funny cuz I did something like that too. It took me a while to figure out that IKEA was a store and not a name brand that I could buy somewhere else
+Tim Pollock Walmart now sells a similar but larger version. It's not as sturdy tho
Yeah I noticed that a few days ago. Thought about getting one but I want something that will fold down flat.
Hi John.
I have watched all your stove builds. I like them all, I have a tip to mention. I have built one of your hobo stoves, I used a electric element off a wrecked stove as a pot holder. I like your wire pot holders, do you have a video on how to make them?
Regards
George Jeckells
first I'd like to thank you for the good tip and the compliment. I have done videos on 2 channels so I'll take a bit and check them both to see if I can find a link to post for you back here. I can tell you that now I mostly just drill a hole on 4 sides (opposing each other) and slide 2 pieces of a stiff wire (like a thick coat hanger) thru so they cross in the middle like an X
also if the pot you use is wider then the top of the stove you could put the same conduit clamps I use for feet on the top to hold the pot off and let the smoke and heat vent out the top under the pot
@@survivorjohnny44 Thanks for the tip about the conduit legs and wire. I like the idea of using hand sanitizer to start your stove.
Regards
George Jeckells
Saw them at w.m. almost bought one.i like the conduit idea 4 sure.
3$ sumn.
I have both the IKEA and the WM. Side by side they are a little different and the WM is a little thinner but you could use it for the same effect. Thanks for the compliment about the feet
If u add elevated cross bars on top of stove the fire will hit your pot instead of going out the holes on the side. I learned the hard way.
Jeff Tucker that is a great point and I'm glad you pointed it out. Thanks brother
Great point, thanks for pointing that out
Love the conduit clamps for feet, brilliant. I would have made the feed door a bit higher, what do you think? But I'm definitely going to try this. Much better than a coffee can. Thanks!
stockholm17 thank you for the kind words. yes, a higher geed door would help contain the hot holes and allow for top feeding so its a good idea. it is not shown in this video but I also like an elongated triangle door with the wider part at the top
John Tewelow -- l like the triangle idea as well. Haven't seen that.
stockholm17 thank you. it allows proper feeding while holding the the coal bed more securely
Very nice. The inverted triangle you are now using, how large a triangle did you use? I really like the three legged conduit clamps. Just wondering about using wing nuts for traveling. My thoughts are to put the bolts in the holes, tighten the bolts to the stove base with a locks and nuts. The clamps could the be placed over the bolts and wing nuts hand tighten to hold to stove base. When the stove has cooled undo the wing nuts ... What do you think?
Ken wing nuts are a great upgrade so you can rotate the feet more easily. for the triangle you can use the existing holes for a guide. I don't have it in front on me right now for a proper hole count but go about 2/3 of the height and 1 full hole section for width at the top of the triangle. I haven't been able to get around having semi circle hole edges that can snag fabric when its stowed tho. Maybe you can figure out something. I made a great stove out of a stainless steel kitchen canister that I really like. its one of my newer videos. It was for a youtube friend named Nathan4071 and he shows it in use. my video is just the build
Ken
Ken to add to idea of wing nuts, they also sell thumb turn bolts that have a sort of paddle shaped head so you wouldn't need any tools to set it up and take it down
Has anyone considered or made one of these upside down so that the bottom becomes a grate? I like the idea of using the large one of these and being able to use a variety of pot sizes. Think I may be getting a few to tinker with Friday when I goto Ikea.
Chris Rasmussen I didnt show it this video but I often make a grill top that you can see in some of my other stove videos.
these wood stoves sure are fun to use and make
Good design. Thanks. I guess a little alcohol stove would work with this also. Has anyone tried that?
Thanks and you are correct about this being a good match for an alcohol stove. You just need some metal cross bars (coat hanger will work) to lift the stove so that you have just more than an inch or 3cm from the top of the stove to the bottom of the pot on top of the IKEA. I recommend at least 2 crossbars and experiment with the height and stability before you add the alcohol to the stove
I should also say that depending on what type of stove you use that 1 inch or 3cm gap will very. If you roll towards the bottom of my videos I show some how to vids for several types of stoves
Feed door should be higher. Turn feet in for packing.
good suggestions
Great idea on the conduit clamp mod
Urbanredneck thank you very much
Love the conduit clamp feet idea!
Thank you, I now add them even to bean can stoves just for the stability
3 legged is smart. Love this idea.
Thank you
Hi John, one of your mates sent me across to watch your video, as he said you like making hobo stoves as well, I liked the video
ATB Ray
+CharlieTango 1 thank you Ray. I am kind of a stove addict, lol. Thanks for watching and the kind words
Fantastiskt❤❤❤
Thank you
I did the same by putting conduit clamps on the bottom to
I like the stability they add. did we both come up with the idea separately or did you get the idea from this video? I'm just curious
No i came up witht the idea myself
I love my Ikea HoBo stove...it's better than a tin can...because it is Stainless Steel.
Yup, should last a lot longer and not rust out
Very cool DIY stove thanks for sharing
Thank you brother. I like doing DIYs an watching em so we can teach and learn from each other
Links posted
A hobo stove made from a bean can does need a pot stand but I've never snuffed an IKEA unintentionally. Thank for watching
Nice work. Maybe the feed window is a bit too big?
MetaView7 thanks for watching and commenting. I am using an inverted triangle now so the bottom of the hole is more narrow than the top. easy feeding and still easy to light from the bottom. it also helps keep the coals from falling out
I'm making one, I was wondering if I should put 2 bolts through the bottom of the stove across the diameter, to make a base for the fire???????
+Howard azmat the beautiful thing about a DIY stove is that you employ your ideas and see the results. I would say if you want to do it, give it a try. If you find it doesn't do what you expected you can simply remove them. The feet I put on these allows the air to flow up they the bottom but if you did cross bolts it may aid the airflow. I would say give it a try and if you do a video please post a link here so we can see it. Thanks for watching and you have anymore questions feel free to ask
Thanks for the great idea, and a greater video...
+Howard azmat thank you
@@survivorjohnny44 +
Fantastic job however I would have liked to see you feeding the stove from the bottom as it burned.
With this version it is better to top feed by lifting your pot and just lighting the fire from the side hole towards the bottom. You can change the hole's size and shape to more of a triangle wider at the top (for feeding fuel) and narrow at the bottom (to hold in the hot coals) to add fuel from the side without lifting your pan
very nice
.i bought one of those utensil holders at the dollarama a few days ago.
it was a shorter one and i got it to use as a windscreen for an alcohol stove .
looks like i gotta buy some more.
and dremel cut off disks too i suppose
+Len Burton thanks for watching Len. If I have to choose between a dremel or an angle grinder with a cut of wheel I'm going with the angle grinder from now on. It's way faster and the disk doesn't need to be replaced 5 or 6 times. I recently made another one of these and that angle grinder with a cut off wheel sure made it quicker
Thank you for showing the burning part......
Thank you for watching. To me the burn is maybe the best part
Hi what suze coduit ckamp dud you use
I'm using 1/2" in this video but 3/4 or 1 " would be good if you use a wing nut so you can rotate them under the stove for transport. The wing nuts should let you loosen and tighten much more easily. The bigger the conduit clamps the wider the stance so the higher the stability
Nice work, well done.
kelvin williamson thanks brother and thanks for watching
Several dremel discs were harmed in the making of this hobo stove- when one single cutting disc on an angle grinder would have sufficed….and then some..😉👍🏻
It's true, you are correct. It's harder to get into the corner cuts on a coffee can hobo stove but there was no real need to use a Dremel for this project
Thanks for sharing this in detail Sir. Thank you 👍
Thank you for watching
nice looking stove john
Thank you brother. They do look better than a tin can for sure
Good idea . Thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching and the compliment
awesome i have the big one and i have been procrastinating.Now i will get off my ass due to this simple build ps gunna put a tin can floor in mine.
I'm very glad to hear that you will be building yours and we have shared some build ideas. If you do the feet to elevate the floor it will let air flow up thru the bottom and get a more complete burn. Thanks for watching brother
You can get the exact same identical can at Walmart, they call it a utensil holder.
I saw that and bought a couple since they are really cheap. there are no seams in the one from IKEA and the one from Wal-Mart is bigger (thats a good thing) but its not as strong (but strong enough). the Wal-Mart one should work fine. if you look thru the comments for this video, a channel called Chainsaw Cabnet Shop made a couple of vids using the one from Wal-Mart and it's just fine. thanks for watching brother and for the tip for those that haven't seen em
I think the shorter one would work better if you wanted to use an alcohol stove. Their would be less chance for the heat from the smaller alcohol fire to dissipate. I checked the links you provided and the price differential is less than 50 cents. So the bigger one would be a better choice if you want to burn wood and the like.
Do you have a trangia stoves to test it?
Dan Morgan I like your thinking and you do have a very valid point. either a spacer block under the stove to raise it or crossbars thru the stove to lower the pot inside or a shorter stove are the choices
John Tewelow The penny stoves I've built need a solid surface to rest on like a jar lid. Pour the alcohol over the stove and ignite. With that in mind you could put your stove closer to the top by putting a couple metal tent stakes under the jar lid. I think it would be more stable if it was a triangular setup. The stove would be closer to the top since all the holes line up very well. Since the stoves are so light I don't think it would adversely effect the balance. Certainly, not as much as the cook pot resting on the top of the stove would.
Bonus points if you use another set of metal tent stakes to allow the smaller diameter cook pot to rest inside the stove with the first pair used to raise the stove a bit.
Dan Morgan I really enjoy commenters like you that have an attitude of improving gear.
Why, thank you very much. That is a very nice thing to say.
It's not gear related but have you checked out Jos Townsend and Sons youtube channel? It's more for reenacting the colonial era but they are good videos with some period knowledge.
Dan Morgan lol, it took me a minute to figure out that its Jas instead of Jos (typo I guess) bit i found the channel and sub'd. thanks for the tip
„I like to see it burn“ exactly...... me 2...... seeing how it looks like is nice, but having it run, is even better
Right? It's like going to a game or a movie and leaving half way into it. Thanks for watching
Nice stove build john !
Thanks brother, you know how addictive these things are to build and fun to burn too. Thanks for watching
I used your idea about 3 leged theory 😁thanks
great, glad I could help and thanks for letting me know
@@survivorjohnny44 sure m8👍👍😁
I especially love your "three-legged stool theory." I've made the same comment in many four-legged stove videos.
I especially love your encouraging comment, lol. Logical is just logical I'm not sure why it's harder for some people to get it. Thanks for watching
@@survivorjohnny44
The only recommendation to four legs over three is, the legs are closer together. On a three-legged stove, if you have a pot offset toward a gap between legs (or too much fuel in that area of the stove) it could become unstable easier, as a four-legged stove doesn't have such a large gap between legs. I think the innate stability of three legs is worth it.
@@xenaguy01 now you have gone and done it, lol. I'll come up with feet to add back the loss from the leg spread. You do make a good point
@@survivorjohnny44
But confusing. Four legs, or three? Three, or four? Ahhhh!
I saw your comment on the coffee video but it doesn't show in the feed to reply. That flash light is 4 D cell LED so holding it in my mouth would be tricky. I feel like I owe you money for sticking with that video for that long, lol
i need to open up those bottom holes. the wood isnt burning perfectly!!! they must be bigger
Grabiato Nehrimzer do you have legs to lift it off the ground for air flow at the bottom?
I'm curious. Why did you put the the feed hole for fuel on the bottom?
+MrJoeyBoombotz that really developed from a "touch hole" where I light the stove from then widened out. Newer versions I have made have a kind of upside down triangle for lighting and feeding. Thanks for the view and comment. If you need me to elaborate let me know
Excellent job 👍🏻
All English Knives thank you, that's very kind
Thank you, they are as fun to make as they are to use
Wal-Mart sells these utensil holders for $3.88 each.
Yes, it is similar and I have picked up a couple to mess around with but the Walmart version is not as well made with thinner metal. It does still work for making this style of stove and it's a great find. Thanks for mentioning it
Great video. I am going to build a IKEA stove to take hiking. Would you recommend the small or larger size? I was thinking the small size would have greater stability and easier to carry
but the larger at have more uses. What do you think????
They are very similar size. The only difference is that large one is a little taller. Since it is taller it will hold more fuel and therefore be a little easier to maintain while in use. You will want a storage back of some sort because of the spot and Ash. I think whichever fits your hiking pack better should be major factor for deciding what size to make. If that isn't a big deal then go with the taller version since it's a little easier to maintain the fire
@@survivorjohnny44 great thanks
Do you really need to cut a hole to create a feed port???
Robert Eads nope, you sure don't. You could just as easily lift your cooking pot and drop your fuel in from the top. Thanks for watching
If you like to feed the stove from the top why don't you make the opening/door a little higher. That way you could drop the sticks in without removing the pot from the top. Just my 2 cents. Let me know if it works out for you. Take care!
You know, it just never occurred to me, lol. When I put the smaller hole toward the bottom its just to light the stove. I may incorporate your suggestion in my next stove. Thanks for the comment and idea
Actually I'm going to be making another one in the next couple of days and will implement the idea. To be honest, I thought of it by watching your video. I was going to make it the same way you did. I'll put up some pictures and maybe a video to share my experience. Keep the videos coming!
kamikazique what i'm thinking is a triangle hole thas wider at the top. We would still have the ability to light tje fire from the bottom (like i do now) and since the hole widens as it goes up we could feed from the the top of the fire (using your improvement) or maybe just 2 holes. A small hole for ignition at the bottom and the feed hole at the top. Just acouple of options. Im gonna sub your channel to follow your progress
I get the picture and it looks promising. As for my channel, I took all my videos down because I'm working on a new channel and I'm going to transfer my videos to that one. I'll make sure to let you know once I have it up and running. It's always good to talk to other like-minded people around here!
Stainless steel is no simple material to cut or drill, depending on thickness. Which dremmel bits or discs and how many did you use? I can’t imagine cutting an opening like that in stainless, it would take forever! Did you have to put oil on the drill bit for the clamp feet holes to keep it cool while drilling? Seems like most of these ikea stove vids overlook the part of the cutting and drilling; It’s a big deal even if you have the tools.
The steel is pretty thin so the drill bit went thru pretty quick so heat wasn't a problem. I used cutting disks for the Dremel but I would thin a good pair of tin snips would cut it too. I think a better design for the hole is an upside down triangle. That allows you to feed wood in but helps keep the hot coals from being able to come out if you stir the wood around. Thanks for watching and I hope my answers help. Feel free to ask more
For obvious reasons the feed hole should be at the top...otherwise a great piece of kit and will soon be in my collection 👍
Agreed. I like a "touch hole" at the bottom to light the fire and prefer to feed wood on top of the fire. The sollution I came up with to fill both needs (on a later model I made) is an inverted triangle side hole. I can light from the bottom and still feed from the top of the fire/coal bed. If I were to do a part 2 or improved version vid, it would be with that upgrade I like the way you think and thanks for watching
I made a kit for a friend of mine and if you watch you may note the smaller "touch hole" to light it at the bottom and the larger feed hole at the top. This was the kit that inspired the next step (being the inverted triangle hole) and it may give you some ideas to further upgrade the stove you make. The kit is made from a set of kitchen canisters but you may also notice the IKEA stove made in the video you commented on as a size compairison. Here is a link to that vid on my friend's channel
ruclips.net/video/gIyi0NQ1pkc/видео.html
Cheers John I will take a look. I have a modification idea of my own and may well upload a video when I learn how to 😁. All the best.
Christophe Outdoors I would love to see your ideas if you do a vid. Plz comment with a link here if you do. The best thing about our community here is that we can all learn from and teach each other and share our ideas.
how much weight can you put on those stove feet..... i want to put a dutch oven on it with water to bathe with,, yu think it would hold it? thanks
Dave Fyffe I haven't torture tested it but I'm sure it would be ok with large pot of water. It would surprise me if it held less than 6 quarts. If you do it, would you mind posting back here? Thanks for watching and commenting
I wanted to see how you cut the load hole and also what the blue stuff is you sprayed on the wood? hand sanitizer...wtf??
2 questions here... I used a rotary cutting tool for the feed port but after this video I improved the door design and I would recommend an inverted triangle for the door shape. Second, I did use gel hand sanitizer because everything was wet from the rain all that morning. I would prefer Maya Dust made from fatwood because it's a renewable resource when your in the woods. (I would think most people have some hand sanitizer in their first aid kit so pointing out it makes a great fire starter I also good)
@Phil Martin thanks for the back up 😀
@Mr. Mark - Because most hand sanitizers have alcohol in them. : )
oye esta interesante la barra con la que encendio la chispa como se llama eso?
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Went to a swedish IKEA a few days ago, couldn't find the small one... Bought a tall one instead. Kind of weird how i couldn't find any, even asked a few employees.
+Xcango013 I like the tall one better. It has a bigger burn chamber anyway. I would say you could order it online but the shipping would probably be more than the cost of the item. If you do a video on it please post me a link here. I like to see what other people are doing with them. Thanks for the view and the comment
Great video!
Thank you so much
ORDNING Utensil holder, stainless steel 7 1/8 "
is that the ikea name? I don't think I knew that
@@survivorjohnny44 Yes
They are hard enough to snuff when you're trying to do it
Hey John how long did it burn with that little bit of twigs? Thanks for sharing by the way
+Tony V I think it probably burned about 5 to 10 minutes. I havnt really done a timer on it like an alcohol stove since there is always more wood to add around here of needed.. Let me know if you want better numbers than that. Thanks for asking
not bad for a miniature stove thanks for replying great video thanks for sharing
Ottima modifica.
Thanks for watching
Excellent. Thanks!
My pleasure and thank you for watching
Brilliant
Thank you very much
Like having 3 feet instead of four would probably make the feed hole a little higher and not tighten the feet so tight that I couldn’t turn them in when I would transport the bag. I want to say something about the cost. I wouldn’t go to a ikea to get one of these because I find them at thrift stores and garage sales for like a buck. If I was going to spend five or more dollars on something like this I would have to be getting a lot more for my money. as the spring and summer. Approach I can go to garage sales all weekend and find stuff for less than five bucks to cook on for sure
. so I guess my comment would be I prefer to put these together as absolutely as cheaply, I mean as less expensive as possible. Tin cans don’t offer the longevity that the Aquia silverware holders do. So I know kids are cheaper but we don’t eat much canned foods that would come from an appropriate sized can you could use from a stove.
good ideas here
too bad it don't do the gasification thing. also you need to cut notches in the top and give the flame somewhere to go.
Augustus McRae I have made gassifiers and done some How To videos for them on the Innovative solutions channel. im unimpressed. they are to heavy and need far more attention to operate properly. the burn chambers are too small as well. I would rather have a bigger burn chamber and maybe get a little light out of it too. my thinking has evolved from experience and a slightly larger hobo stove is my "go-to" now. thanks for watching brother and I like your comment too. it shows you are thinking of ways to improve it and I respect that
1:09 BRUTAL !
Lol, I wasn't kidding. I went through a bunch of discs on that thing stainless steel
what a freaking at idea !! wow thank for sharing h us all !! Blessings sir :-)
+MrSIXGUNZ how could I not give this comment a thumbs up? Thank you very much I appreciate the compliment. It's not my idea though I only elevated the floor with the feet. I do love small wood burning stoves as well
you made it clear and simple and that helps people that never have made anything or like my self become handy capped over the years. stuff like this can make people smile... making something cool and can be used at any time you want !! Blessings !!
+MrSIXGUNZ you have such a great attitude. It just makes me happy to read your comments. I'm going to subscribe to your channel. Thanks again
thanks to you !!!
What is the height of that stove
7 1/8" for the tall and 5 3/8" for the short one. Add about 3/4 for the feet I used. Thanks for watching
John Tewelow Your welcome and thank you for providing such great idea to me .👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@@kiranhembya966 you can find a link in this video description to IKEA website to buy them. I am unaffiliated but people asked where to get them
John Tewelow from which country you are
@@kiranhembya966 USA, where are you from?
Do you like to have a dirty soot kettle? This is a fire with a stand! Standard bonfire.
Since these are popular I thought I would show an easy upgrade. I use a cook kit I show in a much older video. Maybe one of my first on this channel. I don't mind soot tho, it cleans off pretty easily with mud and a quick rinse. Thanks for watching
Look at this: ruclips.net/video/yV0J2bhNcRs/видео.html weight 1.24 kg.
It is popular in Ukraine. We have a war here.
Bruh..came here for the part to see with what you cut the hole in it 😂
is that the part where I wanted to reassure everyone that there no discs harmed in the making of the video but had to admit that the stainless steel wrecked almost a whole package of them? I enjoyed that
@@survivorjohnny44 That is exactly the info I was looking for actually 😂 so now I know this is not a good idea and I have to look for another option. Thanks! 😁👍
I used a Dremel tool with cutting disks. I'll find a Walmart or Amazon/ebay link for you to see one
www.walmart.com/ip/Dremel-100-N-6-120-Volt-Single-Speed-Rotary-Tool-Kit-with-6-Accessories/15173789?athbdg=L1600
Here is a guy using a Dremel to do it. It's not too bad and goes pretty quickly
ruclips.net/video/L7y7EHRYNJs/видео.html
June 9th, 2016 .... big one is now $2.99, BUT! They want $10.00 to ship it.... Total $12.99
My buddy went there last week end while in Atlanta for the Blade show. He picked me up 2 @ $2.99. SCORE!!!
i don't have (and can't afford!) a dremel, but was wondering, could you use a drill with a steel bit to cut out the hole at the side?
You may be able too or you may be able to use tin snips also. If you have a Harbor Frieght near you they have a dremel nock off (no name brand) for around $10 and it comes with the cut off wheels
Good reply. I like "value added" comments. Thanks for posting
misternylon
You did not show how you made a big rectangular hole on this one. That's a critical info you missed in this video.
I'm very sorry, I used a dremel tool with cutting disks and followed the lines I drew with a Sharpy marker. Thank you for watching
I shoot all of my videos on a phone or tablet and I can't hold it while I use power tool but this video shows a little more of the tool while I make another stove. You still won't see me cutting it tho
ruclips.net/video/t9aYFuVTWWk/видео.html
He did say that he used a dremel
If cutting a hole is a surprise to a visitor maybe they will need some more help surviving. Maybe. I suppose if there was no electricity some would have a real problem making this.
B Am di
very nice stove....
thank you and thanks for watching
Klasse Idee !
Thanks, they are fun to build and use too
I liked your video👍💪 laik
Thank you 🥇
Why even cut a hole in it? There's holes all over the thing.
It just makes it easier to fiddle with
Thanks for watching