The Regal Tale of the Princess Royals
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- Опубликовано: 21 апр 2023
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Often forgotten in the annuls of British steam locomotive history, much can truly be owed to the mighty Princess Royal Class of the London, Midland and Scottish Railway, as despite their purposeful looks, these machines helped to break a long-flawed locomotive policy by delivering the necessary power and endurance to travel one of the toughest routes on the UK network, powering the famous Royal Scot expresses, and in their preservation years even coming to represent Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II, for which one of these engines was appointed her namesake
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Although I'm a GWR fan through and through, I do reserve a special fondness of Princess Elizabeth. As an avid trainspotter and videographer in my 20's Princess Elizabeth was among my favourites. The sheer magesty of this beast is hard to ignore. Its absolutely massive and even when its stood still at the station, you can get a sense of the raw power that its able to unleash.
Also, my GF at the time was called Elizabeth, and this was the only locomotive that she would accompany me with on my trainspotting excursions. 🤣
The Lizzy is a masterpiece. We are very lucky to have 2 survivors, when they were scrapped many potential buyers were put off by the extreme length (wifey said “you’re not keeping that in the garden”).
Princess Royals 46210 and 46212 were stored unserviceable early in 1961, at Carnforth, I think. They were condemned in the autumn of that year, and had probably not worked for months. 46204 and 46211 were condemned at the same time. Apparently, they could not be readily used for freight because their wheelbase was too long for most depots, marshalling yards, etc., unlike their LNER counterparts. The former LNER Pacifics were regularly used on freight trains.
Funny thing about the Princess Royal class, as they were not quite right when they were first built, and, despite Stanier's mania for standardisation, NO ONE ENGINE WAS COMPLETELY SIMILAR TO ANY OTHER! But, yes, a great class, often pulling such expresses as the "Midday-Scot", "Birmingham Scot" and "Liverpool Express".
All the Princess Royals were allocated to Edge Hill at some time. The Turbomotive was always shedded at Camden; after rebuilding, it was a cross between a Princess Royal and a Coronation.
The pioneer loco 46200 finished up at a Scottish scrapyard in 1963, despite efforts at rescue.
1964
Criminal
Connells of Calder, a smaller firm compared to giants such as Henderson of Airdrie and Arnott Young at Troon.
46200 was still at 12B Carlisle (Upperby) in the scrap line in August 1964, I was there to see it, my first Stanier Princess, what a cop.,It should have been rescued.
I love Railways in general. And one thing has remained through and through, is my love of these locomotives. Tale of two companies on a Race to the North, bringing some of the greatest engine designs the world has ever seen. It’s a shame that most were lost. But it makes the ones that were saved all the better.
Saw several of these through Wigan North Western, Leyland and Preston towards the end of their working lives - beautiful machines, clean lines and a certain elegance on the track.
By comparison, the Coronation class - we called them semis - were bruisers, moving like a ruby prop forward, with a deeper beat.
The first train set I had in the 1960s was a Triang Princess Elizabeth. I’ve loved the engine ever since.
Despite being an LNER fan. I do love, and admire LMS locomotives. The Princess Royals & Coronations especially.
Great video as always Ruairidh 👍
Same here. I'll always be a Great Western bloke, but, I can still appreciate the mighty Midland designs.
So very nice. A class that should never be overlooked.
Hard to imagine one engine was in not 1, but 2 accidents, and then after the second one, a year later, one of their sisters was damaged and scrapped following the second worst British rail accident.
After rebuilding, 46202 differed somewhat from the rest of the class, and has been described as a cross between a Princess Royal and a Coronation. To be precise, it had the same size cylinders as the Coronations, hence it had a higher tractive effort. The frames were also different from all the other LMS Pacifics.
It's amazing that there were so many changes made in a single class over the span of a few years. The Pennsylvania Railroad would test a few designs, and then build 400+ copies. The class E-6S was one of the smallest classes with only 83 examples being built.
9:17 Great Scotland Yard. It's British Railways Standard Class 8 Pacific Steam Locomotive No. 71000 Duke Of Gloucester. Thanks Mate. X
Thank you Ruairidh for another interesting video, much appreciated.
Ah the Princess Royals.. the A4’s beauty pageant rival!
A wonderful fact-filled documentary with the usual excellent editing and narration!
Excellent video, you learn something new every day as they say. 500 ton and over 100 mph it's mad when you think about it.
The first shot must have been in the early to mid 2000s with that Virgin Crosscountry Voyager.
Lovely!
I love hearing about good workhorses.
And how interesting, that Turbomotive. I'll have to do some more reading on that.
Lovely to see your own work included in the video.
Thank you so very much for this excellent insight into this truly great locomotive
That one with the brown and black livery at 0:48 looks very smart.
Brilliant, just brilliant! You certainly pay attention to your surroundings Sir. 🇬🇧
Well this has just made me sad about her Maj :(
Excellent, cracking video!
Early '50's trip from Lime Street to Euston on the Merseyside Express. The front carriages were off the end of the platform, and the train was 18 carriages long. My mum took me to the restaurant car for lunch and they had to serve the soup in two passes as there was enough rock and roll to empty a fulls soup bowl. Out of Limes St at 10:10 am , into Euston at 1:45pm, if I recall correctly.
Behing Princess Margaret Rose. A truly huge locomotive to a 9 year old.
Stanier’s super King/castle. Lots of Swindon practice but not slavish copying. No welsh coal in LMS so huge wide firebox for example.
Nice work mate!!
Good old Armathwaite station
12:43 look at that both preserved princesses passing each other
Well done! Great story.
Stanier, having come from Swindon onto the LMS incorporating the lessons of the Kings into his new Pacifics, was astounded at the (how shall I put it?) less-than-perfect workmanship of the Princess Royals.
Hmmm... I'mma hazard a guess that this is the 90 tons of thunder that the band Saxon sang so passionately about in the song "Princess Of The Night"
Indeed it is.
Wow awesome video i was wondering if you will do a video on the Princess Royals? Can i ask will you be doing video on the Coronation Class?
Im personally a gwr fan tho i live in heavy lms territory but i still love the lms classss like the coronanations and 8fs etc
Jeeeeej a new video! 🎉❤
You know what’s interesting? The boiler barrel has the same minimum and maximum diameters as the Kings, but the barrel is four feet longer on the Lizzies.
Finally the Princess Royal class, after the king class from GWR, I wonder when would be the southern railway turn.
Wonderful.
0:48 Interesting previously unknown LMS "experimental orange" livery! lol :)
My favourite class of loco
Are you gonna try doing a video on the LMS Stanier Class 8F
Great 👍
Great video! By the way, your microphone quality has decreased significantly in recent videos. You might want to get that fixed!
Hi bud, I just wanted to say but there is a person under the channel name "Steamboy's Adventures" reuploading your videos claiming them as their own and saying the narrator is 'an A.I. voice'.
Very early for one of you're videos
IMMENSE BULK!
Fresh Rudy! Yessssss
Nice
I wanna see a video on the black 5s next
Might have been the successor to "The Great Bear" had the GWR chosen Stanier instead of Collett.
When’s the A1/A3 coming out?
Excellent! Any chance of an in-depth on "Turbomotive" 6202?
I thought Turbomotive was a splendid experiment. It looked so cool with only one coupling rod. All the big Stanier pacifics were imposing and very powerful. Great video.
Will that steam locomotive be used for the Coronation on the 6th May. Such a iconic British built steam locomotive.
not currently in traffic
I'm sorry did he say that someone bought one of these locos for 60k in 85?
Ffs
Not all the railways were put into the big 4 eith the grouping of 1923.
10 minutes ago? Excellent quality from you as always though
Aunt Barbara adores you!
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Princess Elizabeth, the namesake of 6201, became the queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland not just 'Great Britain'.
The LMS was not bankrupt in 1948
What about the history of the class 319s
Who manufactured the steam turbine?
I'm al lner and Lms fan
Can you make videos about all the BR type 1, 2, 4, & 5 as well as every single Pacific Edward Thompson for the London and North Rastern of Railway please. Please respond when you get this please.
Demanding much?! 🤣
Happy Saturday ya'll, thank you Rory.
Aunt Barbara adores you!
Were Mallets ever considered in Britain?
The 'compound' aspect was done, but never a success.
i have princess louise in Trainz
I'm sure I'll be shot down in flames for this, but I find many of Stanier's large engines rather 'stodgy'. Superb engineering and magnificent performers of course - but I don't think they look particularly attractive.
Prince Albert was Queen Elizabeth's grandfather not Her father. Shame on You !:-)
It's not a mistake. King George VI's actual name was Albert, or 'Bertie' to his family. He adopted the name 'George' when he became king.
err no Albert, Duke of York(later George VI after the abdication of his brother Edward VIII(real name David)) was very definitely Princess Elizabeth (later Queen Elizabeth 2nd's) father. Her grandfather was George V whose real first name was George.
the thing about calling people out and calling 'shame' is that it helps to actually be correct yourself when doing so...
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Sorry if this shows my ignorance, but how do you pronounce your Christian name ?
(This is the only thing that 'bugs' me about your videos !)
It's pronounced "Rory".