Did Nintendo Ruin The Wii Port Of Pikmin?
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- Опубликовано: 24 ноя 2023
- The Wii version of Pikmin is quite flawed when compared to the other two versions of the game. Watch this video to find out why. Does anyone even read these? I hope not, I suck at writing descriptions.
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There is a reason for the NA release of the Pikmin 2 port being delayed: they had to the get the licenses for the real life products in the game, It's also probably why they just straight up removed them in the Switch version, to not have to go through that much trouble.
You forgot a few improvements:
The Wii version introduced time travelling which was carried over to the Switch port
Carrying numbers were changed to be more like Pikmin 2, allowing you to see which onion a enemy/pellet is heading towards
Similarly Pikmin ghosts were changed from all being blue to matching their living form's color like in Pikmin 2
All of them are in switch port, so Wii version is stiłl the worst
@@volvoman5262 Yeah I'm not saying Wii is better I'm saying Wii isn't bad
@@volvoman5262 what about compared to the gamecube version?
@@nicnac1929 gamecube dosn't have day select and zero invisibbility frames ( making puffmin and fire super dengerous ) but there are less bugs in gamecube version ( not as much as switch one ) and "debatebly" better bomb-rock fisics
But switch is still superior because of the game being in 1080p hd, dynamic camera, no crushing, less wonky physics, multiple save slots on multiple profiles and only costing $70 bundled with pikmin 2 compard to the 100s it's probably worth today
About throwing Pikmin, you only need to wag the Nunchuk stick and keep Olimar in front of the Pikmin squad if you want to do rapid-throwing. Much more comfortable, practical, and you keep your aiming steady.
Another fun Pikmin Wii glitch is the bulborb by the shock absorber doesn't take damage when you first wake it up if you swarm it.
I think it might be because the bulborb is sleeping on a not so super flat area? I’m pretty sure this issue is present with some other enemies due to not super flat terrain
Woah. I've been a hardcore Pikmin fan since I was about 12 and I never knew that those high pitched sounds that the sleeping bulborbs made were supposed to be snores. Mind blowing actually. I just thought that they added the snore sound effect in Pikmin 2.
Also, the crushing glitch is absolute trash and I hate it. It made getting my 9 day run extremely difficult, though I have accomplished it twice on the wii. I have definitely encountered all of these glitches during my play time numerous times, with the exception of never seeing the Libra glitch.
Don't do a deathless run on the wii version, worst mistake of my life
It's funny how this glitch made puffstoll really dengerous for wrong reasons, but the crushing glitch is ( almost ) non-existing in the switch port
I am still nostalgic about the terrible sound effects due to Chuggaconroy's Let's Play.
I grew up with the GameCube version, but I always saw those differences as "easter eggs" or intentional changes due to their low profile because of the let's play commentary. They sounded like squeaky toys!
It's still a shame that a buggier game became even buggier, but at least things like sequence breaks seen to remain in tact, unlike Metroid Prime's immediate Space Jump boots trick being removed, for example.
I think it's worth bringing up that a lot of people prefer the Wii versions solely because of the new pointer controls, the main appeal of the Wii releases. Many people including myself like having the ability to move the captain and cursor separately and it alone makes the Wii versions of 1 and 2 the best versions for me easily. Too bad the Switch versions use 4's awful motion/stick hybrid controls
New to the pikmin community. And honestly i can't say how many times i've rewatched your other videos already. Super excited to see the future videos
Ive only played through pikmin 1 once and it was the wii version so i always thought the game was just like that. Probably gonna replay the gme when i get the switch version and I’ll finally be able to hear the bulborb snoring sound as miyamoto intended
3:20 it was fixed in the Korean release as well, though that version might not be as well documented on the Wiki.
Honestly I’m just too used to the Wii version lol. Mainly just like the widescreen, controls don’t matter that much but i definitely prefer them. Though admittedly I did run into a loooot of Pikmin dying for no reason. (Also I think the audio glitch happens due to the game incorrectly pitching up the sound way more than it’s supposed to? Not 100% sure on that though)
you mentioned the counter glitch and crushing glitch but it's kinda debatable whether it's actually worse on wii (i'm currently doing testing)
you mentioned swarm trick but you neglected to mention Wii has another, better trick where you rest your cursor on the place you throw at and move olimar throughout your squad for instant throwing
you also say that 2 had modern throwing but this is false, throwing is the same as pikmin 1, but pikmin move to your hand faster
and for the bomb rock ppint you didnt mention that bombs can be faster on wii since you have much better aiming
and you say seitch carries over improvements but it utterly butcheres the main reason why wii is the best, the motion controls
on switch the gyro is slower, more limited in range, and only wirks when throeing or whistling, which is completely inferior to the full decoupled aiming of wii
I don't think I've ever heard that Bulborb snoring glitch, and most of the time I've played Pikmin 1 on the wii. Or many of these glitches, really.
The one I'm really familiar with is the crushing glitch which is annoying, but it's still in the GameCube version anyway.
I personally love the Wii port simply because being able to so accurately throw pikmin where I want is just so nice.
6:53 It’ll become LOST MEDIA?
EEEEEEAUAAAAAAAAGH!!!!!
It is the fake game with fiddlebert
I loved it when I could tell when my Pikmin died due to bridge building. And oh my gosh, the bulborb snore wasn't supposed to sound like that? My entire life I thought it was just a weird decision Nintendo made.
and... now ill notice these changes next time i play on wii, thanks 😊
I've replayed the Wii version multiple times before the switch version came out. Idk how I've never noticed the broken snoring sound
4:25 I use a method where instead of replicating the Gamecube method, I simply just start spinning around as that leads to the Pikmin to group together and closer to Olimar, which allows for fast throwing speeds.
I had no clue the Pikmin 2 bulborb snoring sound was supposed to be there in the Pikmin 1 Wii port of the game. I’m so used to the sound and grew up playing that way, and to hear that is mind blowing. I’ve only played the Wii port of both 1 and 2 👁️👄👁️
The Wii ports of Pikmin 1 and 2 are my childhood! They will hold a special place in my heart no matter what
Another day, another [IMONLYHEREFORPIKMIN VIDEO].
you are the cybershell of pikmin
Considering my first exposure to Pikmin was the Wii ports, this would probably explain the mild disdain I've had for Pikmin 1 up until recently.
I'm stuck on NPC forever because going from freely pointing the cursor to contolling it with the same stick as movement feels so unbelievably afwul I just can't do it, yay :)
finally someone understands how much the wii port broke the final boss.
One other thing to add is the fact the wii is backwards compatible with gamecube games so you might as well just get an original copy (if you can get it for anything reasonable)
I never realized crushing was a glitch. I just thought it was a weird Pikmin 1 feature like tripping or death sprouts, like it'd make sense that a giant creature falling on your pikmin would crush it. Unfair but makes sense.
I can say that I thankfully never experienced the Libra glitch...
Or so I thought. I played Pikmin 1 about 2 weeks ago and had the Pikmin just yeet the Libra onto the bridge. I never had this happen to myself so it made for a really good laugh. I Play on the Eropean Wii port but might get the original GC versions back because that crushing glitch butchered my Pikmin. Never had issues with bridges before but guess what, last playthrough they got stuck and died.
You forgot to mention how the mamuta just straight up screams at you.
I literally have a clip somewhere where I swarm a spotty bulbear with 100 pikmin and I end up with probably 20 pikmin due to the stupid crush glitch (maybe 10-20 died from the bulbear eating them but the rest got crushed) Wii version ofc
I just beat the Wii version of Pikmin without any deaths. The answer: probably
0:56 America was salty.
I grew up with the Wii version of Pikmin. And there is a reason why it was the last game I did a no death run on. And it was on the Switch port too
I remember hearing that the EU version of pikmin 1 didn't have the high-pitched enemy sounds that the US version did, so I tried to diagnose it by extracting the game files and digging through, changing things around, and repackaging the ISO. Turns out, the enemy sounds are linked to the onion sounds. In the EU copy, the enemy sounds are normal speed, but the onion sounds are slower and lower-pitched. In the US, it's the complete reverse. Try producing pikmin seeds in both versions, and you'll see.
I've never had an issue with the sound effects in the wii version of Pikmin 1, but I have had issues with the wiimote speaker going crusty (only while playing this one particular game) and there is a bar of random colours on the bottom of the screen. I use the PAL version since that is what released here in the UK. Don't know if it's a problem with my copy or if these are version differences.
Ironically the switch port actually runs on the European wii releases of both games
I played Pikmin 1 for the first time on this port, I have a lot of miserable memories lol. Still, Pikmin is Pikmin, so I couldn't complain too much.
Never thought I'd be this early to a video
Also Wii Pikmin 1 was my introduction to the game, I love it
The Wii version introduced me to the franchise in 2011
This is how I got introduced to Pikmin. The controls are awesome
4:33 You can run back and forth through your squad though it is less effective than swarming
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Why do you consider The gameplay worse in The Wii port in my experience The pointer helps a Lot in The game
While I haven't played the switch version, I have played Wii and Gamecube versions.
Honestly, I don't agree with a lot of things in the video.
First off, maybe I'm just lucky, but I've never had the Libra Glitch, only had the crushing glitch once, and the snores while weird and had the counter glitch a few times, aren't anything significant enough to write about nor annoying or harmful enough to be a problem. Otherwise the game runs perfectly fine with fairly few glitches here and there.
Secondly about bombs, while having bomb-rocks that manually be thrown before going off is slower, it's overall much safer and makes them more organized rather then being a bomb that could go off if they happened to be separated. Plus the fact other Pikmin will run away from a bomb about to go off is super helpful too.
Also about the controls overall, I will say, that using a wii remote and nunchuck feels a lot more comfortable and responsive then a Gamecube controller or joy-cons. Doesn't feel as limiting in throwing, slower sure but feels a lot better. Not to mention, the ability to swap Pikmin in your hand like they do in 2 onwards rather then disband or shuffle around to grab the one you want is a VERY welcome change compared to the Gamecube.
As for the Bulbax fight, while I will say the Bulblax fight is overall better on Gamecube with the ability to drop bombs more easily, but like you said about bombs on Gamecube, you can get used to it. Especially if you used Bomb Rocks to take out enemies before hand and watch the boss's predictable patterns. Wouldn't say it's 'ruined' by any stretch.
Any QOL mods/hacks for the Wii version?
2:59 no bcs why did they do him like that ☠️☠️
my question is why did the wii have so many errors? ;-;
The libra will waypoint reset the next day so it isn't that much of a set back
Well when I played my Pikmin 1 Wii copy (it’s American) I didn’t have any of these issues, wonder if my copy is late revision of some kind.
It doesn't have the messed up audio?
@@Supersayainpikmin yeah I didn’t, as far as I remember when playing it.
@@reverseshin Would you consider making a dump of the disc if you still have it? My guess is that its a later reprint that has a couple (or all) of the fixes from the Euro version, but in case its not I think its important to document it (the redump set currently just has the one version).
@@Supersayainpikmin I don’t have equipment to dump disc, plus even if I did, I don’t want Nintendo ninjas going after me. But my copy does have a copyright of 2014 on the back.
@@reverseshin You really just need a Wii to dump a disc, but yeah that second point is pretty valid. I will keep a lookout for any copies of the game that say 2014 on the back though, thank you!
2:26 i saw this glitch happen when i was playing the game
"Gamecube vertion"
pikmin 1 wii version deathless run when?
Can you make a video on how they ruined the music on the Switch version, it sounds jarringly off pitch and I see no one talking about it
Which music? Music on my switch sounds fine on pikmin 1 unless your talking aboud caves, since i have music off 75% of the time
@@volvoman5262 All of the music in Pikmin 1, it might not be obvious to you until you compare it
@@MusicJunkie37 i rather that then making crushing glitch more than regular event
@@volvoman5262 fair enough, but it still bothers me and am curious why it happened
i really like playing the wii version on dolphin emulaotr with keyboard and mouse
AntDude will not be happy about this one
Yes
Glad to see I’m not the only one who finds the wii version to be the worst version of Pikmin 1
I hate when they die of literally nothing
And yes I did them deathless, 10 times in fact
IOHFP, as much as i respect you, saying the wii has worse controls is truly foolish. You dont even bring up olimar and where pikmin are thrown are controlled seperately, which is a really good change
I didn't have any problems with the Wii version 🤷
Why'd you remove the gun?
Video was underperforming in terms of impressions so I was curious if it was because of the gun in the thumbnail because of RUclips's weird guidelines and stuff. Impressions went higher when I changed the gun so I might have been correct.
I see.
I seriously think there is not a single good pikmin port
So, Pikmin 1 and 2 had 2 REMAKES because the Wii messed up everything. It's weird how the game wasn't well tested and so many glitches slipped though...
I personally prefer the wii version.
Id still take the Wii version over the GameCube version since I really like having the pointer controls and not being able to manually choose what pikmin type you throw is super annoying
Still think the switch version over the other two any day though
It's not a big deal choosing which one to throw, either dismiss them or find the one you want and hold A and they'll lineup
I know a lot of people loved the pointer controls in Wii, but I prefer the static GameCube controls. They’ve always felt better.
BuT yOo CaN aIm WiTh Da WiI wEmOtE!!!1! (Idk man i played the switch version and I just got gud at the cursor controls there)