I dont know what bothers me the most. touchscreen laptops that dont open 360 degrees to draw on, or 99% of tech reviewers that dont even bother to test the stylus input, one of the main selling points of this laptop.
That's a bit much lmao, i don't need a acreen that folds all the way over because i have a drawing tablet for that. And while a touch screen isn't critical, it does come in really handy at times, like when showing someone 3d models on my laptop its just so much more intuitive to pan around the object, and they also dont have to learn the controls to do it themselves @ankur-dhama
@antonhowell4195 that is not what this PC is for tho. If the touch screen is just an addon then your point is valid. But if it's marketed as a professional artist device, then it needs to have the features and form factor that makes it practical and usable. Drawing on a traditional laptop in a traditional form factor is terrible and uncomfortable as hell. Might as well use a drawing slate and stylus. Which defeates the whole point of a touch screen. Edited for spelling and grammer (damn autocorrect)
Yup this inability to put the screen at 180 degrees for stylus input is a regression from the previous Raptor Lake version. Another regression is not having 4080 and 4090 versions.
@@antonhowell4195 yeah but then why bother marketing it with a stylus in the first place you have to draw with one hand holding the screen which is stupid
@@husnulanwari it's not a budget laptop, and it's not pretending to be one. It's a professional grade laptop. That's doesn't mean it's a bad deal though. It's actually a pretty good price for the caliber of machine that it is.
I bought this laptop for engineering and i love it, some people might have a problem with 60hz and sure its a bit annoying but the display is stunning and tbh i forget that its only 60hz
There are many people on the comments who don't seem to understand this is a professional laptop, not a gaming laptop. I ordered one of these a bit ago because I'm starting my degree in IT. it had the specs I needed at a decent price, gets solid enough battery life, and looks sleek and professional. It also allows me to do some light gaming on the side. If I was going for a gaming laptop I wouldnt buy this, but for a student/professional who needs performance, it's perfect.
@jponz85 but it isn't? You know it's okay for a product to not be for you, right? That doesn't make it a bad deal. Many laptops with these specs are more expensive and don't even come with an oled screen at all. With their target audience in mind, Asus knew that creators would literally never use 120hz, most video is 24hz - 60 max, so why include it and drive up the price more? If you want high refresh rate, then get a G16. A G16 with identical specs costs the same price, you gain 240hz, but lose 4k, the touch screen, the proart chassis, and the ryzen processor. To me, I'd rather have the ryzen processor than 120hz. It's a laptop that I'm not using for gaming really at all, so I don't need it.
@@janvavrik6793 but are any of those laptops 4k oled? They aren't. You know how much a 4k oled costs? They are not cheap. can you find me a single example of a 4k 120hz laptop? Cause I can't. Sadly the display link for a laptop to push 40gbps (the needed speed for 4k 120) just doesn't exist yet,either that or its so new that it didn't exist when this product was in development. Asus made a judgement call - qhd and high refresh rate, or 4k@60hz. They felt 4k would be more beneficial to creators and professionals. Whether you agree with that or not, it's clear 4k was important to Asus for this laptop. They probably would have done 120 if they could,but they couldnt, so they didn't.
@@kadenbirch Buy a MacBook then, there’s literally no reason to buy any other laptop if you don’t do gaming and you want a professional device. Better screen, refresh rate, battery, speakers, performance per watt. Your digging yourself a hole.
I bought the base “canada config” here in the US at Best Buy last month for around $1700 on sale (retail price is $1900), so contrary to what Alex said, it actually CAN be had here. It’s a great PC
Also, worth noting that this is definitely NOT a gaming laptop. When you take that into consideration, the specs make a lot more sense. It’s for the creative crowd - think Lightroom, Photoshop, Premiere Pro, etc.. Color accuracy is the primary concern. Gaming is an afterthought.
@@pangtundure Yes, it does have one USB 4.0 Gen 3 port for 40Gbps data transfers. From what I understand, that port also offers full compatibility with Thunderbolt 3. The other ports are USB 3.2 Gen 2.
Got a Zephyrus M16 for work and gaming, extremely happy with it except thermals and noise (most likely due to intel chip, seeing 90 degrees is pretty normal). I am a full fletched ASUS fan now, their designs and "power" is so good. I feel like this laptop line up is calling for me in the future.
Just under clock it, it won’t void your warranty and you’ll get way better temps. Did it on my asus rog g17 not gaming below 50c on cpu and gaming 70c on cpu. Just check with asus if unclocking is not going to void anything it absolutely shouldn’t I’ve done research and talked hp support but asus might be different. My cpu is the ryzen 9 7854hx so it’s not intel but underclocking is still great for intel and amd laptops.
Don’t, with proper game support and optimization, the macbooks are the best gaming laptops, cause their batteries last forever, and they have the exact same performance plugged in or on battery, no windows laptop has that.
I've got the previous generation version, and man that dial is REALLY useful if you're doing any type of drawing/modeling/animation, etc. In fact its just useful in general!
I got this laptop for work and I can easily say it beats out every Dell, Lenovo & Macbook I've ever used for work. As a software engineer, that 64GB of RAM is just perfect.
Their ProArt line is their Prosumer line and geared towards Artists so it having a full size SD card instead of the micro makes complete sense here. Also for those complaining about the 60hz screen Point me in the direction of a laptop with a 4k 16:10 oled based high refreshrate touchscreen with great color accruacy
I bought one of these Brandnew from the asus Webshop a week ago- since then it has randomly crashed 3 times for no apparent reasons and didn’t turn on for several hours, had a ton of issues with my headphones when I’m not using an external audio interface (weird crackling, having to switch to laptops speakers and back to headphones when audio would randomly cut off , stuff like that) . Just a lovely laptop.
My heart says Asus is the company to buy my motherboard from. My head says I should wait a few years to see if Asus has stopped actively trying to sr_w over its customer base.
If they manage to make this laptop a bit thicker but include 360 hinges, a high refresh rate screen, a vapour chamber, this will truly be the perfect laptop for all users. There would be 0 need to buy any other laptop.
If you are one of those people that struggle to focus, this is not a good purchase at all. I've learned to make sure that my work laptop has no ability to do anything other than what I need it for.
As someone who has had hands on with this laptop, it reminds me of a less expensive/lesser quality ThinkPad P1 G6. The keyboard is good but not as tactile as the Thinkpad - the keys are completely flat without a concave design like the thinkpad. You can easily flex and warp the base of the ProArt whereas the ThinkPad's base is solid. The overall look, fit, feel, and dimensions are on par with the Thinkpad. They have similar design asethetics and port availability. I think it's a great computer and would definitely get one if I didn't own the Thinkpad already.
I work on the P1 a lot. Where in the world do you get a G6 without flex in the bottom panel? The P1 G6 and G7 are 2 of Lenovo's best built computers mechanically speaking and also seem to be very reliable so far, but they aren't exactly a high bar for structural rigidity. They are very good for what they are intended to be. though. The P16 has a thinner bottom panel, for weight savings, with decent flex, that's for sure, but it's overall external build, fit and finish, and rigidity is closer to a modern macbook but with a significantly better designed and manufactured motherboard. The Surface laptop 7 is still the current absolute peak of external build quality, fit and finish, and rigidity. In terms of durability, carbon fiber chassis handle drops way better than all metal designs so things like the older XPS, Precisions, and many Thinkpads are still the best choices for most businesses with their careless employees.
@@TheJjjoj I replaced their shitty captive screws with aftermarket screws and it's rock solid - barely a flex in the chassis. You should try it and I don't mean that to be snarky. It makes a world of difference. I ordered mine off Amazon ---> Kadrick 660 Pcs M2 Screw Assortment kit. Costs ~$8 USD and now it has me thinking if I ever order another ThinkPad again to just go ahead and replace the chassis screws by default to increase base rigidity . But getting back to your comment, the flex on the ProArt is very noticeable. Like I think I could warp it with just my hands to the point it would break. I don't know if I could say that about the P1 series, definitely not with the Surface Laptop 7. The ProArt base seems that malleable which to mean felt lesser quality than the laptops I typically use. Still a good laptop, just wanted to note what stood out to me when I got a chance to use the ProArt. Everything else you said is on point. No disagreement here.
@@meal_team_six Funnily enough, I just worked on another P1 G6 2 hours ago. Yeah, the P1 G6 needs at least 3 more of the captive screws for structural rigidity. By replacing them, you are actually applying slightly more pressure on the bottom chassis which presses it just a bit closer to the components leading to a more solid feel. It's definitely a good move if you own a thinkpad laptop. I just work on them. The bottom flex is certainly worse than I'd like on the proart because the panel is a mostly flat design. I also wish they chose a slightly different bottom panel design at the cost of a bit extra weight, but I also understand the decision to keep it at 4.08lbs for marketing. The keyboard deck and display assembly flex is extremely minimal. These two are way more important to get right. The top two chassis in deck flex currently from all product lines released in 2024 are the XPS 14 and 16, and the Surface laptop 7 13.8 and 15. I completely understand where you are coming from now with the P1 since that is your comparison point. I just found it odd at first to use it as such since thinkpad bottom panels are far from rigid, mostly by design as increased pliability tends to improve durability to an extent.
I'm impressed. Aside from the refresh rate, this thing is - like - zero-compromises. ASUS stuff tends to top-grade in general; so it's a shame their best tech is often branded under that insufferable REPUBLIC OF GAMERS marque that I wouldn't be caught dead using (I'd even rep TUF without complaint), and it's likewise a shame that any high-refresh/VRR options here are probably locked to the G16 badge, because I absolutely _would_ consider the P16 if I were shopping for a laptop; seems like awesome specs and build quality for very reasonable prices (the webcam mic in particular really caught my attention for how good it sounded). For crying out loud, ASUS, just release more non-ROG variants for those of us who _aren't_ manchildren!
It was probably in the sponsorship contract they signed with ASUS that they needed to show some AI stuff. Also in context I think he meant its efficient while doing AI stuff. Machines without NPUs can do AI stuff as well, but they SUCK at power consumption when they are.
was super keen up until they casually mention co-pilot. meaning it will also have recall in the future. instant out, no one wants to be monitored like that.
I had this laptop for about a week before i returned it and got a g16 instead. The dial is so unintuitive that it felt kind of pointless, so i opted for the higher refresh rate of the g16.
I have the skookum model and it is great so far. I have a newer MacBook Pro and it's 120 hz screen isn't that much smoother than the OLED on this one, it still had a great response rate, which matters more. I can see much more of a difference between the iPad Pro and iPad Air, the stutter is way more noticeable. It's not for gaming, it's for creative work so it's a Patone calibrated OLED screen so it doesn't need to get mega bright. I was a bit disappointed when I bought it, but it's not a big deal every day, and if you care just get the G16.
@@_shreyash_anand Me too - in fact that is why I haven't upgraded my M1 MacBook, it does everything well and the I don't really need the speed increase of the new ones. I'm going to wait until the next one to see if they put the tandem OLED in them, then I'll upgrade.
Why oh why is it always ASUS that makes the yummiest AMD laptops? That display is simply fantastic, looks absolutely gorgeous. It's so good it makes even 60Hz bearable. If that machine had Lenovo or honestly anything other than ASUS written on it, I'd instantly tell them to shut up and take my money. But ASUS?
Asus is weirdly enough one of the more innovative laptop manufacturer rn. They are also the first to go all in on AMD Ryzen CPU on laptops, so I'd say they earned their position
@@gafarhere My guess becuase of both their Motherboard problems and their Ally issues recently. Also their abysmal customer service as well would be another knock agaisn't ASUS that people would complain about
I still can't understand why nobody does decent budget laptops anymore. Yes, I realize this is not meant to be budget, but it drives me crazy that we can't get the same quality of machine with a ZEN APU or something like a Steam Deck in a laptop body and not have to pay like $1k for it. This just represents another laptop in a long line of new, high-tier machines that totally miss the mark on what people really want.
If you guys are gonna show gaming performance, you need to also say the setting and resolution for it to mean anything. 12o fps doesnt mean much if we dont know what the settings are.
So... I am seeing this video on my homescreen for a day and don't want to click it. I just click the video to see why is it has few views and not even 1k comments.
No Ethernet? As an IT worker, I wouldn't buy anything without an Ethernet port. I don't want to carry dongles, and I'm not doing video meetings over Wi-Fi.
This thing cost the same as 15/16inch Macbook Pro but has a 60Hz screen. The keyboard is also kinda bad because it lacks of dedicated Page Up/Down, Home, End keys + the useless copilot key replacing the right control key. (This is a professional notebook) People who loved it probably just use an external keyboard on their own desk and never actually take it outside.
I need a laptop for work. It must be dockable friendly with two 4K displays. What should I be looking. Also the current gen xps has a terrible feeling keyboard
FYI: my brother had two of the 13 in versions of this laptop that had constant crashing issues. May have been user error but multiple units makes me skeptical. Sad because it was beautiful hardware
whats the point of the touch screen when the screen doesn't fold all the way, or isn't detachable? I mean I sure love fingerprints on my laptops screen.
love to see amd laptops, but really hoping they go back to support ram upgrades with their next HX chipdls next year. It's the whole reason why I got an 7845HX instead of the newer releases.
I think it's not upgradable, but there's a version with 64GB. That and the display are basically the only differences with G16. G16 caps at 32 GB and ironically (from my POV) has better display, because for me 4K is stupid below like 32", I rather have higher refresh rate at laptop size.
also even professional laptops are getting 120hz display so atleast 90hz would have been better but 60hz display in end of 2024 on a laptop that's priced over macbook air nah bruh
@@itsmilan4069 it's priced higher than a Macbook air because it's aimed at content creators and maybe some light gaming. It's not a thin and light. This is meant for professionals.
@@kadenbirch even compared to a MacBook Pro which is on par for the target audience, MacBook beats the breaks off this laptop with no issues. Better in virtually every category except no touch screen.
@vigour6786 not really, no. the Macbook has mini LED, which isn't as good as OLED, it's not 4k, it's more like 3-3.5k though the Macbook does have 120hz, but it can't really play games. The 16 inch Macbook pro at the same price has a 1tb ssd, but CANNOT be upgraded and you can't add a second ssd, has less ram at 24gb, Has a 14 core CPU and a 20 core gpu, which a RTX4060 would destroy, and as for the CPU: the m4 pro has much better single core performance, but much worse multicore performance. So no. It isn't better. It's just different. And that's totally ignoring the fact that a lot of professionals (myself included) literally CANNOT do their jobs on MAC OS, Windows is required. That's not true for many, and many creators love Mac OS. But often the decision of which kind of laptop to get falls on the operating system. If you need a Macbook, get a Macbook, but for people who cannot use macOS for their jobs/school program, it's just not an option.
There is no mention of PWM flickering, which is sad. As someone who bought and returned it, if you are sensitive to PWM flickering, DON'T buy it if you don't want an eye sore and headache.
Maybe I am paranoid but that vid sounded awfully much like an ad. If you have 2000$ to spend you kinda can expect 100 FPS in Rocket League, an OLED display and 6-8h battery life.
I genuinely don't understand how 60hz is acceptable in 2024. I can game at 60 just fine, but desktop/non-gaming does not feel good to me anymore at less than 120.
Last I checked, there are no 4K 120hz OLED displays available on the market and the only 4K 90hz are exclusive to Dell (I believe they currently have an exclusive deal for them). So, would you rather have a 1440p 120hz display or 4K 60hz? If it is designed for graphic design and video editing, then the refresh rate is less important than the resolution. They made the right choice for people looking for a OLED panel, but I honestly would rather see a 4K 120hz LCD SHARP Igzo panel like Dell used on the previous generation XPS devices (I previously had an XPS 17 9700). It was a brighter display. LCD uses less battery and doesn't have burn-in issues (which I have already experienced on this Asus ProArt P16). I also found the XPS colors to look slightly better. The Asus ProArt P16 has a slightly green tint and worse off-axis viewing than the XPS with the LCD display.
Last I checked, there are no 4K 120hz OLED displays available on the market and the only 4K 90hz are exclusive to Dell (I believe they currently have an exclusive deal for them). So, would you rather have a 1440p 120hz display or 4K 60hz? If it is designed for graphic design and video editing, then the refresh rate is less important than the resolution. They made the right choice for people looking for a OLED panel, but I honestly would rather see a 4K 120hz LCD SHARP Igzo panel like Dell used on the previous generation XPS devices (I previously had an XPS 17 9700). It was a brighter display. LCD uses less battery and doesn't have burn-in issues (which I have already experienced on this Asus ProArt P16). I also found the XPS colors to look slightly better. The Asus ProArt P16 has a slightly green tint and worse off-axis viewing than the XPS with the LCD display.
@@tylers6637 Or just get a MacBook. Mini LED with promotion up to 120hz. Better battery life, higher brightness, better speakers, better performance per watt etc etc. Better in virtually every metric it’s no surprise it’s the go to laptop for nearly all professionals
Does it make a difference for fan sound and speakers if the laptop is on a mouse pad i never have my laptop on a mouse pad but its always on a hard surface
@@CODEDSTUDIO The current M4 MacBook Pro 16s will smoke these in every metric, especially battery life. But if you don’t want (or can’t afford) to shell out $2500 US for the base config 16” Pro, and if you can live with Windows, you’re better off going with the base config P16.
I would get another ASUS but the one I’m using for architecture programs at school crapped out on me just outside of my warenty and sometimes the screen doesn’t turn on unless I restart it several times, the keyboard will sometimes also get stuck in keys and it has clicked on stuff in its own before. This experience made me not want to buy one from ASUS ever again. But maybe I should give them another chance?
Is there a downside to photographers using a microsd card with the sd card adapter? Most microsd cards I see come with the adapter included. If there is no downside then the entire micro vs full sd card thing would not matter.
Yea microSD’s tend to heat up a lot quicker, since the nand packages are closer together. This reduces their lifespan/increases the chance instability or data loss. I’ve seen someone try shoot raw video to a microSD in an adapter and literally melt a hole in the adapter
Photogaphers use standard SD Cards NOT micro SD cards in their cameras becuase yeah can't really get the same readwrites out out a smaller msd as you can a standard sd card without adding extra heat and thus causing phsyical damage to the cards. Camera's don't write like a normal device particulary if its video aka its all at once instead of in sputs to let a sd card cool off between writes
probably wont happen until ARM gets proper support from everyone. Passively cooled x86 laptops for now just isnt going to be worth risking the various models of x86 CPUs with different power curves throttling and having a proper well tuned fan curve is way more important, and ARM laptops is still sorting out performance and compatibility issues. Maybe the next generation of the PX13 and the PZ13 or even some Surface products could be for you.
@@wenimechoinasama2 Most creative software is available on the Mac and tends to run better there too. Apart from Adobe, that just sucks regardless of platform.
Is he normally this animated? First part of the video, it was like he was on amphetamines. Amazing what happens when Linus starts letting go of a few people.
I think this laptop is way too pricey, especially when you can get 4080 models for about $1,600. I'm all about performance, not those flashy features that don’t actually speed things up.
I dont know what bothers me the most. touchscreen laptops that dont open 360 degrees to draw on, or 99% of tech reviewers that dont even bother to test the stylus input, one of the main selling points of this laptop.
Exactly, a touchscreen laptop without 2-in-1 form factor is utterly stupid.
That's a bit much lmao, i don't need a acreen that folds all the way over because i have a drawing tablet for that. And while a touch screen isn't critical, it does come in really handy at times, like when showing someone 3d models on my laptop its just so much more intuitive to pan around the object, and they also dont have to learn the controls to do it themselves @ankur-dhama
@antonhowell4195 that is not what this PC is for tho. If the touch screen is just an addon then your point is valid. But if it's marketed as a professional artist device, then it needs to have the features and form factor that makes it practical and usable. Drawing on a traditional laptop in a traditional form factor is terrible and uncomfortable as hell. Might as well use a drawing slate and stylus. Which defeates the whole point of a touch screen.
Edited for spelling and grammer (damn autocorrect)
Yup this inability to put the screen at 180 degrees for stylus input is a regression from the previous Raptor Lake version. Another regression is not having 4080 and 4090 versions.
@@antonhowell4195 yeah but then why bother marketing it with a stylus in the first place
you have to draw with one hand holding the screen which is stupid
Hes slowly adopting linus's package handling techniques.
It's because they both watch AVE
lets hope he does not adopt his Hiatus techniques
Could be worse, could be Casey Neistat handling
I am very irritated by that. It’s a new peace of tech that took a lot of human effort to make it at least treat it with a bit of respect
"package handling" hehehe
i'll comeback to this video 10 years later when i consider this laptop a good budget laptop.
but outdated
@stefo5744 depends on what you want to use it for lol. Keyword is budget laptop lol.
Sahi bola bhai
@@husnulanwari it's not a budget laptop, and it's not pretending to be one. It's a professional grade laptop. That's doesn't mean it's a bad deal though. It's actually a pretty good price for the caliber of machine that it is.
@@kadenbirchhe means it will be low budget friendly after 10 years
Gaming laptop for professionals but 60hz display. What a let down.
Not really
Too bad, thank you for saving me the time
Yeah, I don't understand why Asus's own Zephyrus G16 screen wasn't used here.
Can't make the gaming version undesirable now, can we?
Anything under 120 is literally unusable.
I bought this laptop for engineering and i love it, some people might have a problem with 60hz and sure its a bit annoying but the display is stunning and tbh i forget that its only 60hz
I just watch Alex's videos to be told to have "a great old day". Thanks Alex, I will!
There are many people on the comments who don't seem to understand this is a professional laptop, not a gaming laptop. I ordered one of these a bit ago because I'm starting my degree in IT. it had the specs I needed at a decent price, gets solid enough battery life, and looks sleek and professional. It also allows me to do some light gaming on the side. If I was going for a gaming laptop I wouldnt buy this, but for a student/professional who needs performance, it's perfect.
A $2,000 laptop with 60hz, idc if it's for professionals or gamers, that's a terrible deal.
@jponz85 but it isn't? You know it's okay for a product to not be for you, right? That doesn't make it a bad deal. Many laptops with these specs are more expensive and don't even come with an oled screen at all. With their target audience in mind, Asus knew that creators would literally never use 120hz, most video is 24hz - 60 max, so why include it and drive up the price more? If you want high refresh rate, then get a G16. A G16 with identical specs costs the same price, you gain 240hz, but lose 4k, the touch screen, the proart chassis, and the ryzen processor. To me, I'd rather have the ryzen processor than 120hz. It's a laptop that I'm not using for gaming really at all, so I don't need it.
@@kadenbirch 1000$ ultrabooks have 90hz displays, stop the cap.
@@janvavrik6793 but are any of those laptops 4k oled? They aren't. You know how much a 4k oled costs? They are not cheap. can you find me a single example of a 4k 120hz laptop? Cause I can't. Sadly the display link for a laptop to push 40gbps (the needed speed for 4k 120) just doesn't exist yet,either that or its so new that it didn't exist when this product was in development. Asus made a judgement call - qhd and high refresh rate, or 4k@60hz. They felt 4k would be more beneficial to creators and professionals. Whether you agree with that or not, it's clear 4k was important to Asus for this laptop. They probably would have done 120 if they could,but they couldnt, so they didn't.
@@kadenbirch Buy a MacBook then, there’s literally no reason to buy any other laptop if you don’t do gaming and you want a professional device. Better screen, refresh rate, battery, speakers, performance per watt. Your digging yourself a hole.
I bought the base “canada config” here in the US at Best Buy last month for around $1700 on sale (retail price is $1900), so contrary to what Alex said, it actually CAN be had here. It’s a great PC
Also, worth noting that this is definitely NOT a gaming laptop. When you take that into consideration, the specs make a lot more sense. It’s for the creative crowd - think Lightroom, Photoshop, Premiere Pro, etc.. Color accuracy is the primary concern. Gaming is an afterthought.
Guessing the word “gaming” was used for clicks
Usb 4.0 Gen 3 !?
@@pangtundure Yes, it does have one USB 4.0 Gen 3 port for 40Gbps data transfers. From what I understand, that port also offers full compatibility with Thunderbolt 3. The other ports are USB 3.2 Gen 2.
@maladjustedmusician just looked at the form usb 4.0 gen 3x2 is shit naming what's the speed and power it do ?
Got a Zephyrus M16 for work and gaming, extremely happy with it except thermals and noise (most likely due to intel chip, seeing 90 degrees is pretty normal). I am a full fletched ASUS fan now, their designs and "power" is so good. I feel like this laptop line up is calling for me in the future.
Just under clock it, it won’t void your warranty and you’ll get way better temps. Did it on my asus rog g17 not gaming below 50c on cpu and gaming 70c on cpu. Just check with asus if unclocking is not going to void anything it absolutely shouldn’t I’ve done research and talked hp support but asus might be different. My cpu is the ryzen 9 7854hx so it’s not intel but underclocking is still great for intel and amd laptops.
I hope they will continue with the ProArt in the future. Not necessarily the laptop, but I love how the GPU, Motherboard and CPU cooler looks.
I was between this and the PX13, and bought that one just yesterday. It's been great so far.
PX13 is on my shopping list. Just waiting to get the 4060 version on sale.
The most surprising thing about this laptop was the microphone imo.
In a good or bad way?
It's shockingly good for an internal mic array.
That sounded ok, many laptop mikes and webcams are so bad even compared to a $200 budget android phone....
I've been eyeing this laptop for a while now
I've been eyeing this laptop for a while now even harder
Don’t, with proper game support and optimization, the macbooks are the best gaming laptops, cause their batteries last forever, and they have the exact same performance plugged in or on battery, no windows laptop has that.
@@ncard00 MacBooks literally don't run a whole lot of games because developers don't support the platform
I've got the previous generation version, and man that dial is REALLY useful if you're doing any type of drawing/modeling/animation, etc. In fact its just useful in general!
@@ncard00ahahah also you’re stuck on macOS.
Impressed by the microphone quality!
3:15 Oh no, the camera has a hot pixel!
whats that i went to the time stamp didnt see anything. was just curious never heard the phrase before
@@ihavefleas196 A "hot pixel" on a camera refers to a single pixel on the image sensor that appears significantly brighter than surrounding pixels
I got this laptop for work and I can easily say it beats out every Dell, Lenovo & Macbook I've ever used for work. As a software engineer, that 64GB of RAM is just perfect.
Grabbed one open box best buy and very pleased with my purchase and id recommend others who are on the edge to go for it, the 4k screen is crazy.
I've had this same laptop for 2 months now. Absolutely love it. Came from an XPS 17 9710.
Their ProArt line is their Prosumer line and geared towards Artists so it having a full size SD card instead of the micro makes complete sense here. Also for those complaining about the 60hz screen Point me in the direction of a laptop with a 4k 16:10 oled based high refreshrate touchscreen with great color accruacy
Touch screen on a laptop will never be a sell point for me. I hated three fingerprints on my iPad, why would I want them on my laptop
That's totally fair. You could always just not use the touch screen though, assuming the rest of the machine appeals to you.
I bought one of these Brandnew from the asus Webshop a week ago- since then it has randomly crashed 3 times for no apparent reasons and didn’t turn on for several hours, had a ton of issues with my headphones when I’m not using an external audio interface (weird crackling, having to switch to laptops speakers and back to headphones when audio would randomly cut off , stuff like that) . Just a lovely laptop.
My heart says Asus is the company to buy my motherboard from. My head says I should wait a few years to see if Asus has stopped actively trying to sr_w over its customer base.
Yeah I don't know about elsewhere in the world but where I live Asus support is abysmal
I personally don't buy ASUS motherboards. I recently broke that idea and bought one and it seems to be unstable. Rekt.
@@Jimster481 I've never had any issues with Asus motherboards, but it has been at least 10 years since my last build.
Sraw? Srow? Sriw? Sruw? Srew? Sryw?
@@thatgreenfur6584Screw. OP doesn't know how to censor correctly.
Fun fact: Not everyone buys a laptop to play games on it. Some of us use them to do work, meaning no gaming.
You're right. A real gamer would buy or build a desktop system. Gaming laptop is a contradiction.
If they manage to make this laptop a bit thicker but include 360 hinges, a high refresh rate screen, a vapour chamber, this will truly be the perfect laptop for all users. There would be 0 need to buy any other laptop.
If you are one of those people that struggle to focus, this is not a good purchase at all. I've learned to make sure that my work laptop has no ability to do anything other than what I need it for.
I got the model from the review from Best Buy. $1500 open box. It's a pretty sweet machine even with the 60hz screen.
@@dwalleck wait what!? $1500!?
its 60hz?????
@@NonsensicalSpudz yep. Not very great.
@@cameronbosch1213 Yeah, if you're willing to go open box. It's even cheaper now, $1315 for the 4060 model
As someone who has had hands on with this laptop, it reminds me of a less expensive/lesser quality ThinkPad P1 G6. The keyboard is good but not as tactile as the Thinkpad - the keys are completely flat without a concave design like the thinkpad. You can easily flex and warp the base of the ProArt whereas the ThinkPad's base is solid. The overall look, fit, feel, and dimensions are on par with the Thinkpad. They have similar design asethetics and port availability. I think it's a great computer and would definitely get one if I didn't own the Thinkpad already.
I work on the P1 a lot. Where in the world do you get a G6 without flex in the bottom panel? The P1 G6 and G7 are 2 of Lenovo's best built computers mechanically speaking and also seem to be very reliable so far, but they aren't exactly a high bar for structural rigidity. They are very good for what they are intended to be. though. The P16 has a thinner bottom panel, for weight savings, with decent flex, that's for sure, but it's overall external build, fit and finish, and rigidity is closer to a modern macbook but with a significantly better designed and manufactured motherboard. The Surface laptop 7 is still the current absolute peak of external build quality, fit and finish, and rigidity. In terms of durability, carbon fiber chassis handle drops way better than all metal designs so things like the older XPS, Precisions, and many Thinkpads are still the best choices for most businesses with their careless employees.
@@TheJjjoj I replaced their shitty captive screws with aftermarket screws and it's rock solid - barely a flex in the chassis. You should try it and I don't mean that to be snarky. It makes a world of difference. I ordered mine off Amazon ---> Kadrick 660 Pcs M2 Screw Assortment kit. Costs ~$8 USD and now it has me thinking if I ever order another ThinkPad again to just go ahead and replace the chassis screws by default to increase base rigidity . But getting back to your comment, the flex on the ProArt is very noticeable. Like I think I could warp it with just my hands to the point it would break. I don't know if I could say that about the P1 series, definitely not with the Surface Laptop 7. The ProArt base seems that malleable which to mean felt lesser quality than the laptops I typically use. Still a good laptop, just wanted to note what stood out to me when I got a chance to use the ProArt. Everything else you said is on point. No disagreement here.
@@meal_team_six Funnily enough, I just worked on another P1 G6 2 hours ago. Yeah, the P1 G6 needs at least 3 more of the captive screws for structural rigidity. By replacing them, you are actually applying slightly more pressure on the bottom chassis which presses it just a bit closer to the components leading to a more solid feel. It's definitely a good move if you own a thinkpad laptop. I just work on them. The bottom flex is certainly worse than I'd like on the proart because the panel is a mostly flat design. I also wish they chose a slightly different bottom panel design at the cost of a bit extra weight, but I also understand the decision to keep it at 4.08lbs for marketing. The keyboard deck and display assembly flex is extremely minimal. These two are way more important to get right. The top two chassis in deck flex currently from all product lines released in 2024 are the XPS 14 and 16, and the Surface laptop 7 13.8 and 15. I completely understand where you are coming from now with the P1 since that is your comparison point. I just found it odd at first to use it as such since thinkpad bottom panels are far from rigid, mostly by design as increased pliability tends to improve durability to an extent.
"Sorry, this promotion is not available in your region"
I'm impressed. Aside from the refresh rate, this thing is - like - zero-compromises. ASUS stuff tends to top-grade in general; so it's a shame their best tech is often branded under that insufferable REPUBLIC OF GAMERS marque that I wouldn't be caught dead using (I'd even rep TUF without complaint), and it's likewise a shame that any high-refresh/VRR options here are probably locked to the G16 badge, because I absolutely _would_ consider the P16 if I were shopping for a laptop; seems like awesome specs and build quality for very reasonable prices (the webcam mic in particular really caught my attention for how good it sounded). For crying out loud, ASUS, just release more non-ROG variants for those of us who _aren't_ manchildren!
"Don't worry about the AI, efficiency is the important part"
5 seconds later
"Let's show it doing some AI!"
It was probably in the sponsorship contract they signed with ASUS that they needed to show some AI stuff. Also in context I think he meant its efficient while doing AI stuff. Machines without NPUs can do AI stuff as well, but they SUCK at power consumption when they are.
was super keen up until they casually mention co-pilot.
meaning it will also have recall in the future.
instant out, no one wants to be monitored like that.
@@Fahqth Try running Linux on it.
I could not resist Alex being that nice Canadian, so I liked and subscribed :)
I want a touch screen with pen support but those always come with bad performance so its good to see this
i hope next years version comes with a 5080 or 5090...the laptop itself and the proart design line i really like - just clean
I have the 13' RTX 4060 version of this, and it runs Star Wars Outlaws like a boss 🙂
First saw tumbnail of Alex smiling holding laptop, refreshed the page and tumbnail changed to Alex frauning, same poze lol
Even 90 hz would have been enough. I can't do 60hz anymore like it's 2019. I'm spoiled! The G16 is incredible, though, and runs linux perfectly
I would totally get a laptop if it had mechanical switches or hall effects
I had this laptop for about a week before i returned it and got a g16 instead. The dial is so unintuitive that it felt kind of pointless, so i opted for the higher refresh rate of the g16.
I have the skookum model and it is great so far. I have a newer MacBook Pro and it's 120 hz screen isn't that much smoother than the OLED on this one, it still had a great response rate, which matters more. I can see much more of a difference between the iPad Pro and iPad Air, the stutter is way more noticeable. It's not for gaming, it's for creative work so it's a Patone calibrated OLED screen so it doesn't need to get mega bright. I was a bit disappointed when I bought it, but it's not a big deal every day, and if you care just get the G16.
Yeah I guess pixel response times matter a lot. But man I wish everything had the iPad Pro's screen
@@_shreyash_anand Me too - in fact that is why I haven't upgraded my M1 MacBook, it does everything well and the I don't really need the speed increase of the new ones. I'm going to wait until the next one to see if they put the tandem OLED in them, then I'll upgrade.
@@matt_kellyThat will happen in 2026, looks like. Supply chain isn’t ready to scale up to MacBook Pro displays.
I literally just ordered one of these (With the 4060) from memory express!
Every laptop should have the numpad feature in the track pad.
Don't pay too much attention to what alex says about US configurations/pricing. Best Buy US has the same base model among others.
Why oh why is it always ASUS that makes the yummiest AMD laptops? That display is simply fantastic, looks absolutely gorgeous. It's so good it makes even 60Hz bearable. If that machine had Lenovo or honestly anything other than ASUS written on it, I'd instantly tell them to shut up and take my money. But ASUS?
Whats wrong with Asus? The main thing in your “if” is, your other companies don’t do what you want except Asus did😂
Framework makes AMD laptops and is weirdly the only one selling an all AMD option right now.
I noticed that too. Asus was the only one having a selection of HX CPUs as well.
Asus is weirdly enough one of the more innovative laptop manufacturer rn. They are also the first to go all in on AMD Ryzen CPU on laptops, so I'd say they earned their position
@@gafarhere My guess becuase of both their Motherboard problems and their Ally issues recently. Also their abysmal customer service as well would be another knock agaisn't ASUS that people would complain about
More like how your mortgage/settlements begin 😂
Next level Price tag always
For this class of machine its actually a really good price, like it or not.
@kadenbirch pay 2500+ for a 4060 laptop apparently a "really good price"
Sorry I can't like it mate
@@frankwong9486 $2500 cad, which is like $1770 USD - try and find a laptop with equivalent specs for significantly cheaper, I'll wait.
I still can't understand why nobody does decent budget laptops anymore. Yes, I realize this is not meant to be budget, but it drives me crazy that we can't get the same quality of machine with a ZEN APU or something like a Steam Deck in a laptop body and not have to pay like $1k for it. This just represents another laptop in a long line of new, high-tier machines that totally miss the mark on what people really want.
If you guys are gonna show gaming performance, you need to also say the setting and resolution for it to mean anything. 12o fps doesnt mean much if we dont know what the settings are.
So... I am seeing this video on my homescreen for a day and don't want to click it.
I just click the video to see why is it has few views and not even 1k comments.
No Ethernet? As an IT worker, I wouldn't buy anything without an Ethernet port. I don't want to carry dongles, and I'm not doing video meetings over Wi-Fi.
This thing cost the same as 15/16inch Macbook Pro but has a 60Hz screen.
The keyboard is also kinda bad because it lacks of dedicated Page Up/Down, Home, End keys + the useless copilot key replacing the right control key. (This is a professional notebook)
People who loved it probably just use an external keyboard on their own desk and never actually take it outside.
my god, you guys have an amd laptop vid! finally!
If this is any clue, all I need is some boxes to put stuff in
Everything is super easy to clear out
I need a laptop for work. It must be dockable friendly with two 4K displays. What should I be looking. Also the current gen xps has a terrible feeling keyboard
That microphone is really good?? Also I don't care at all about touchscreens. May as well go back to Windows 8.
FYI: my brother had two of the 13 in versions of this laptop that had constant crashing issues. May have been user error but multiple units makes me skeptical. Sad because it was beautiful hardware
Is this good for a mechanical engineering undergraduate degree?
I've got this beautiful clear perfect colour perfect blacks display. Now let me smudge it up with fingers prints.
Can't wait for a refresh of the flow x16
whats the point of the touch screen when the screen doesn't fold all the way, or isn't detachable? I mean I sure love fingerprints on my laptops screen.
I’m not a writer. Maybe the difference, but I still have no use for the touchscreen on my laptop. Never compelled to use it
love to see amd laptops, but really hoping they go back to support ram upgrades with their next HX chipdls next year. It's the whole reason why I got an 7845HX instead of the newer releases.
if you set it so your pointer has trails you dont have to worry about it showing pointer trails!!
just realized i no longer have that option applied after changing to a holiday theme..... my refresh rate is just bad...
@@ihavefleas196 RIP
Giant cat knocking over building -- sorry, the Goodies did that in Kitten Kong
maybe a hot take over here: u csnt call it "Pro", if it dosnt have a numpad
How is it a work or professional laptop with no number pad?? 🤔
Is RAM upgradeable? Looks a lot like XPS but with Ryzen which is something I wanted for a very long time.
I think it's not upgradable, but there's a version with 64GB. That and the display are basically the only differences with G16. G16 caps at 32 GB and ironically (from my POV) has better display, because for me 4K is stupid below like 32", I rather have higher refresh rate at laptop size.
getting a touchscreen while getting rid of high refresh rate ain't what gamers want
also even professional laptops are getting 120hz display so atleast 90hz would have been better but 60hz display in end of 2024 on a laptop that's priced over macbook air
nah bruh
@@itsmilan4069 it's priced higher than a Macbook air because it's aimed at content creators and maybe some light gaming. It's not a thin and light. This is meant for professionals.
@@kadenbirch even compared to a MacBook Pro which is on par for the target audience, MacBook beats the breaks off this laptop with no issues. Better in virtually every category except no touch screen.
@vigour6786 not really, no. the Macbook has mini LED, which isn't as good as OLED, it's not 4k, it's more like 3-3.5k though the Macbook does have 120hz, but it can't really play games. The 16 inch Macbook pro at the same price has a 1tb ssd, but CANNOT be upgraded and you can't add a second ssd, has less ram at 24gb, Has a 14 core CPU and a 20 core gpu, which a RTX4060 would destroy, and as for the CPU: the m4 pro has much better single core performance, but much worse multicore performance. So no. It isn't better. It's just different. And that's totally ignoring the fact that a lot of professionals (myself included) literally CANNOT do their jobs on MAC OS, Windows is required. That's not true for many, and many creators love Mac OS. But often the decision of which kind of laptop to get falls on the operating system. If you need a Macbook, get a Macbook, but for people who cannot use macOS for their jobs/school program, it's just not an option.
There is no mention of PWM flickering, which is sad. As someone who bought and returned it, if you are sensitive to PWM flickering, DON'T buy it if you don't want an eye sore and headache.
tbh this whole video feels more like an ad
@zchrode Not considering PWM and too little USB-C ports, this laptop is quite good, maybe the best one for content creation in this generation.
One feature that you really want - customer support? Software that doesn't suck?
I'm just here to see Alex press on that keyboard. I wish I was that keyboard.
"pros" dont care about touch screens, it's all about pen input
honestly, the screws being different lengths are a bit of a deal breaker for me.
Maybe I am paranoid but that vid sounded awfully much like an ad. If you have 2000$ to spend you kinda can expect 100 FPS in Rocket League, an OLED display and 6-8h battery life.
-5 on the keyboard for no numeric pad. That's a purchase killer for me.
Alex, did you kill the LG Gram laptops? They went strangely quiet this year. At least in Europe.
Wheres the macbooks reviews? i really want to see those from you guys...
I genuinely don't understand how 60hz is acceptable in 2024. I can game at 60 just fine, but desktop/non-gaming does not feel good to me anymore at less than 120.
Last I checked, there are no 4K 120hz OLED displays available on the market and the only 4K 90hz are exclusive to Dell (I believe they currently have an exclusive deal for them). So, would you rather have a 1440p 120hz display or 4K 60hz? If it is designed for graphic design and video editing, then the refresh rate is less important than the resolution. They made the right choice for people looking for a OLED panel, but I honestly would rather see a 4K 120hz LCD SHARP Igzo panel like Dell used on the previous generation XPS devices (I previously had an XPS 17 9700). It was a brighter display. LCD uses less battery and doesn't have burn-in issues (which I have already experienced on this Asus ProArt P16). I also found the XPS colors to look slightly better. The Asus ProArt P16 has a slightly green tint and worse off-axis viewing than the XPS with the LCD display.
Are they gonna make a 17" version?
The 64GB / RTX 4070 / 2TB SSD Model is 4200 USD in Germany. Phew.
If this had a high refresh rate screen it'd be the perfect laptop.
try the flow x13
@@p0lqroid I've been happy with my 2023 G16. The X13 is way too small.
Last I checked, there are no 4K 120hz OLED displays available on the market and the only 4K 90hz are exclusive to Dell (I believe they currently have an exclusive deal for them). So, would you rather have a 1440p 120hz display or 4K 60hz? If it is designed for graphic design and video editing, then the refresh rate is less important than the resolution. They made the right choice for people looking for a OLED panel, but I honestly would rather see a 4K 120hz LCD SHARP Igzo panel like Dell used on the previous generation XPS devices (I previously had an XPS 17 9700). It was a brighter display. LCD uses less battery and doesn't have burn-in issues (which I have already experienced on this Asus ProArt P16). I also found the XPS colors to look slightly better. The Asus ProArt P16 has a slightly green tint and worse off-axis viewing than the XPS with the LCD display.
@@tylers6637 Or just get a MacBook. Mini LED with promotion up to 120hz. Better battery life, higher brightness, better speakers, better performance per watt etc etc. Better in virtually every metric it’s no surprise it’s the go to laptop for nearly all professionals
@@tylers6637 cloest to 4k@120 OLED is the 3200x2000 OLED found in ASUS's very own Zenbook Pro 16 Model UX7602
Does it make a difference for fan sound and speakers if the laptop is on a mouse pad i never have my laptop on a mouse pad but its always on a hard surface
How those this compare to the Macbook pro 16inch
@@CODEDSTUDIO The current M4 MacBook Pro 16s will smoke these in every metric, especially battery life. But if you don’t want (or can’t afford) to shell out $2500 US for the base config 16” Pro, and if you can live with Windows, you’re better off going with the base config P16.
I would get another ASUS but the one I’m using for architecture programs at school crapped out on me just outside of my warenty and sometimes the screen doesn’t turn on unless I restart it several times, the keyboard will sometimes also get stuck in keys and it has clicked on stuff in its own before.
This experience made me not want to buy one from ASUS ever again. But maybe I should give them another chance?
It’s good for professionals but as gaming laptop it’s a shame
And then there was a Hot Wheel car at the back...
Is there a downside to photographers using a microsd card with the sd card adapter? Most microsd cards I see come with the adapter included. If there is no downside then the entire micro vs full sd card thing would not matter.
Do you mean a full size to microSD adapter? In that case you might as well carry a USB SD card reader.
Yea microSD’s tend to heat up a lot quicker, since the nand packages are closer together. This reduces their lifespan/increases the chance instability or data loss.
I’ve seen someone try shoot raw video to a microSD in an adapter and literally melt a hole in the adapter
@ ok this makes sense.
Photogaphers use standard SD Cards NOT micro SD cards in their cameras becuase yeah can't really get the same readwrites out out a smaller msd as you can a standard sd card without adding extra heat and thus causing phsyical damage to the cards. Camera's don't write like a normal device particulary if its video aka its all at once instead of in sputs to let a sd card cool off between writes
You can really tell that this is paid video (AD) by the fact that camera is described as 'pretty darn good'.
Considering it isn’t built for gaming, 60hz isn’t too bad
As an artist what I would really want is a Windows Air M1(passively cooled I mean and with enormous battery life) with a stylus support =)
ARM Windows computers will become more popular in the coming years
honestly i would just get a macbook i wouldn't even want to deal with the bs thats called windows 11
probably wont happen until ARM gets proper support from everyone. Passively cooled x86 laptops for now just isnt going to be worth risking the various models of x86 CPUs with different power curves throttling and having a proper well tuned fan curve is way more important, and ARM laptops is still sorting out performance and compatibility issues. Maybe the next generation of the PX13 and the PZ13 or even some Surface products could be for you.
@@johnsalamii The main issue with macOS for a lot of people is compatibility unfortunately.
@@wenimechoinasama2 Most creative software is available on the Mac and tends to run better there too. Apart from Adobe, that just sucks regardless of platform.
Don't they usually check for flex in the keyboard area as well? He did it on the least flexible part of the laptop
Asus is like cmon guys if we put 60hz what will we do next year
Yo! You're gonna use the trackpad in Blender? Sweet!
Does the g16 have a calibrated display?
Is he normally this animated? First part of the video, it was like he was on amphetamines. Amazing what happens when Linus starts letting go of a few people.
Sick. Now put an RTX A series card in it or drop the "pro" misnomer.
Why can't we get a Nebular display? HDR is better than true blacks for most situations.
No reason not to buy a G16 instead, it often goes on sale for way less too
"MediaTek Wi-Fi"... I'm truly sorry to hear.
Blame AMD as that is what they are focing OEMS to use with their laptop CPUS
I really wish you guys covered if the touchpad uses a button or a haptic actuator like m$ surface and apple.
This one is mechanical
I think this laptop is way too pricey, especially when you can get 4080 models for about $1,600. I'm all about performance, not those flashy features that don’t actually speed things up.