If there was ever a man who tried to cram as much jargon into every sentenced uttered.. it's this dude. He has a crossfit pain in the ass rating of 90.
For those of you whining about subscription charges. Crossfit is a free resource for the first year in which you can download as much as you want, including this video.
I actually like this guy, and I don't necessarily disagree with going into the hip hinge already braced, but how about don't deadlift heavy when you're out of breath. This is my problem with crossfit.
I've coached people deadlifting upwards of 80% of their max while out of breath for years. Not a single injury. The process of getting into a good position and creating intra-abdominal pressure before you lift isn't that difficult to teach. In the rare situation where a person simply can't get it, they don't get to lift very heavy at all. Most people can always get tight enough to get a few reps in at a time. It is true that some people lack the coaching skills to teach this to their clients, but that shouldn't mean we eliminate such a potent fitness tool.
John Macioce My deadlift 1RM is 465lbs, which is decent considering I never specialized in powerlifting, nor paid special attention to the deadlift relative to any other lift. This means that I should be able to brace myself and get some reps of about 370lbs after transitioning from some other movement, and indeed I can do that. I'm willing to accept your insult that my deadlift isn't respectable. That's cool. There are guys out there lifting way, way more.
getting "some reps of about 370lbs" is a lot different than approaching the bar to execute such a physiologically demanding movement already in a state of fatigue. to be clear, i am not saying that deadlifts cannot be performed for higher reps, which will induce a state of fatigue toward the end of the set. they definitely can, though i would still argue it's not ideal. however, performing a set of deadlifts into fatigue is a lot different than putting it into a circuit or barbell complex with an intensity anywhere near 80%. why would one wish to perform any highly demanding and / or technical lift at a metabolic disadvantage out of the gate? i just don't understand the payoff. there are so many safer approaches to programming that yield better results. why make it difficult for the sake of making it difficult?
GunnedDownAtrocity I was saying that after I'm breathing pretty hard, I can get braced and start getting in some reps at 80% of my max, and maintain a neutral spine. Not only can I do it, but hundreds of other people do it, too. Granted, I can't get as many reps in at a go as I can with, say, 50% of my max, but that's to be expected. You must understand, though, people aren't doing this when seriously fatigued. The idea in a conditioning workout is to monitor yourself and keep a tough pace without getting to the point where you fall out from fatigue and mechanics go to shit. A lot of this depends on what you mean by "fatigued". I'm going to take it as pretty tired and heart-rate high, but not to the point where mechanics are sacrificed. As for your question about doing a deadlift when fatigued, the reason a person would do it is for the sake of fitness. In CrossFit, fitness is defines as increased work capacity across broad time and modal domains. So the idea is to condition yourself in as many areas as possible. If you can't lift 80% of your max (in any lift, and maintain good mechanics) while your heart-rate is up there, then you're not as fit as people who can. You have a hole in your fitness.
There are litrerally hundreds of deallift set up videos out there, so no, you don't have to pay for the subscription. His point was set up prior to loading and developing correct neural pathways. Check: Clint Darden Donnie Thompson Josh Bryant Mark Rippetoe Derek Poundstone Jim Wendler Elliot Hulse... Hell even the creepy founder of crossfit has a dead lift set up video
guys, don't listen to this con artist... if you do enough research, you'll find that Crossfit is not the way to reach your goals, UNLESS you want to take twice as long reaching them. To put the reason in a nutshell, you cannot use powerlifting to gain muscle while doing these other exercises, they work against each other... I've also had the trainer for the GA Bulldogs tell me this. DON"T WASTE YOUR TIME!
If there was ever a man who tried to cram as much jargon into every sentenced uttered.. it's this dude. He has a crossfit pain in the ass rating of 90.
Will ferrel trains crossfit?
For those of you whining about subscription charges. Crossfit is a free resource for the first year in which you can download as much as you want, including this video.
Can someone tell what the watch on his arm is?
I actually like this guy, and I don't necessarily disagree with going into the hip hinge already braced, but how about don't deadlift heavy when you're out of breath. This is my problem with crossfit.
I've coached people deadlifting upwards of 80% of their max while out of breath for years. Not a single injury. The process of getting into a good position and creating intra-abdominal pressure before you lift isn't that difficult to teach. In the rare situation where a person simply can't get it, they don't get to lift very heavy at all. Most people can always get tight enough to get a few reps in at a time. It is true that some people lack the coaching skills to teach this to their clients, but that shouldn't mean we eliminate such a potent fitness tool.
Mike Libbie if you're able to deadlift 80% of your max while out of breath then your max is no where near respectable.
John Macioce My deadlift 1RM is 465lbs, which is decent considering I never specialized in powerlifting, nor paid special attention to the deadlift relative to any other lift. This means that I should be able to brace myself and get some reps of about 370lbs after transitioning from some other movement, and indeed I can do that. I'm willing to accept your insult that my deadlift isn't respectable. That's cool. There are guys out there lifting way, way more.
getting "some reps of about 370lbs" is a lot different than approaching the bar to execute such a physiologically demanding movement already in a state of fatigue. to be clear, i am not saying that deadlifts cannot be performed for higher reps, which will induce a state of fatigue toward the end of the set. they definitely can, though i would still argue it's not ideal. however, performing a set of deadlifts into fatigue is a lot different than putting it into a circuit or barbell complex with an intensity anywhere near 80%.
why would one wish to perform any highly demanding and / or technical lift at a metabolic disadvantage out of the gate? i just don't understand the payoff. there are so many safer approaches to programming that yield better results. why make it difficult for the sake of making it difficult?
GunnedDownAtrocity I was saying that after I'm breathing pretty hard, I can get braced and start getting in some reps at 80% of my max, and maintain a neutral spine. Not only can I do it, but hundreds of other people do it, too. Granted, I can't get as many reps in at a go as I can with, say, 50% of my max, but that's to be expected. You must understand, though, people aren't doing this when seriously fatigued. The idea in a conditioning workout is to monitor yourself and keep a tough pace without getting to the point where you fall out from fatigue and mechanics go to shit. A lot of this depends on what you mean by "fatigued". I'm going to take it as pretty tired and heart-rate high, but not to the point where mechanics are sacrificed.
As for your question about doing a deadlift when fatigued, the reason a person would do it is for the sake of fitness. In CrossFit, fitness is defines as increased work capacity across broad time and modal domains. So the idea is to condition yourself in as many areas as possible. If you can't lift 80% of your max (in any lift, and maintain good mechanics) while your heart-rate is up there, then you're not as fit as people who can. You have a hole in your fitness.
Dig this stuff!
There are litrerally hundreds of deallift set up videos out there, so no, you don't have to pay for the subscription. His point was set up prior to loading and developing correct neural pathways.
Check:
Clint Darden
Donnie Thompson
Josh Bryant
Mark Rippetoe
Derek Poundstone
Jim Wendler
Elliot Hulse...
Hell even the creepy founder of crossfit has a dead lift set up video
"Pain Cave" LOL
whats the songs name?
That's why it says "preview", smart guy.
oh here we go
always feels hard for me from the floor..never feels easy or natural..suckssss
Great so he's told has what "NOT" to do. .... But of course, we have to pay foe the journal subscription to find out what proper technique is.
Chris?
this man is god.
Dude why would you, CF Journal is free for a year.
WORD ITS IN THE SETUP.
punk rock star swag kelly starett
Someone commented about doing a "valsalva" when setting up, LOL...uhhhh....yeah, if you want to poop when you deadlift.
no
Greg Glassman, couldn't cone up with his name.
that's too bad
guys, don't listen to this con artist... if you do enough research, you'll find that Crossfit is not the way to reach your goals, UNLESS you want to take twice as long reaching them. To put the reason in a nutshell, you cannot use powerlifting to gain muscle while doing these other exercises, they work against each other... I've also had the trainer for the GA Bulldogs tell me this. DON"T WASTE YOUR TIME!