his ws punish is now actually good. no longer forced lnh makes him 10 times better. and i think he will get a new max dmg combo his overall combo potential got buffed crazy. if you end combo with 3 12 you no longer are forced with the stupid lnh2 as ender. so if opponent hits wall after 3 12 you can actually do a full wall combo now and this is huge.
You could've always done duck 1+2 if you hit the wall after 3 12. And if you were close to the wall but not quite there you could do duck 1 to reach the wall instead of a lionheart follow
Hi man, just started checking your stuff out. There's limited content out side of GOF vods on Steve compared to almost all characters so I appreciate anything I can find :) My opinion on this differs a bit from what you just said but ends up where you ended up, It's quite tricky to know how a extensive patch like this is gonna turn out before you actually got it , so we will have to wait and see how this week plays out. I do agree that these buffs are big for Steve, but i dont think this is gonna push him past a-tier. I can't really see it happening. Taking into account that we do have quite some s-tiers and borderline s+ along with the current state where the most characters is sitting in the a-tier bracket (while Steve has been sitting just above the bottom 4-5 characters in win rates across all ranks), i would be very surprised if this manages to swing him past a-tier. Nevertheless, It feels pretty effing fantastic to be a Steve player right now. It will be interesting to see how this patch changes things.
@@ranges787 That's somewhat true. Yes the skill required for Steve does affect his wr way more than almost the entirety of the roster, but it's immensely more apparent the lower ranks than the opposite. It still stands that Steve got almost the same wr in purple- and blue+, which indicates that his wr isn't as misleading as you suggest. I watch content from some really good Steve players, Shinblade's stream for example. I respect their opinions quite a lot, they got a lot of years under their belts as true Steve experts. It will be really fun to see what players like them make out of the patch and how it differs from my initial thoughts regarding Steve this patch.
tracking can easy be a high because like only 1% of playerbase can consistently perform a side step duck in the first place and you need specific character knowledge that a character only has a good tracking high in the first place. ub2 is f17 +3 on block with crazy +14 on hit now if +f stay the same with the lnh cancel steve now has prob the best tracking high in the game this gives guaranteed sonic fang followup into heat btw IF frames remain the same but i doubt this stays like it is because steve would be super broken.
if the + frames on hit remain for the lnh entry moves f22 is a whooping +11 on hit so if you get the hit with it you get a guaranteed jab string followup if you do the stance cancel this is 53 dmg from a mid that’s only -4 on block … same goes with ub2 with crazy +14 this is a guaranteed sonic fang into heat… if the frames stay the same steve is now broken. ok is saw he is +4 after lnh cancel so no giga bs op character
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his ws punish is now actually good. no longer forced lnh makes him 10 times better. and i think he will get a new max dmg combo
his overall combo potential got buffed crazy.
if you end combo with 3 12 you no longer are forced with the stupid lnh2 as ender. so if opponent hits wall after 3 12 you can actually do a full wall combo now and this is huge.
You could've always done duck 1+2 if you hit the wall after 3 12. And if you were close to the wall but not quite there you could do duck 1 to reach the wall instead of a lionheart follow
Hi man, just started checking your stuff out. There's limited content out side of GOF vods on Steve compared to almost all characters so I appreciate anything I can find :)
My opinion on this differs a bit from what you just said but ends up where you ended up, It's quite tricky to know how a extensive patch like this is gonna turn out before you actually got it , so we will have to wait and see how this week plays out.
I do agree that these buffs are big for Steve, but i dont think this is gonna push him past a-tier. I can't really see it happening.
Taking into account that we do have quite some s-tiers and borderline s+ along with the current state where the most characters is sitting in the a-tier bracket (while Steve has been sitting just above the bottom 4-5 characters in win rates across all ranks), i would be very surprised if this manages to swing him past a-tier.
Nevertheless, It feels pretty effing fantastic to be a Steve player right now. It will be interesting to see how this patch changes things.
winrate does not reflect how good a character is. steve is the hardest character to play that alone drops his winrate a lot.
@@ranges787 That's somewhat true. Yes the skill required for Steve does affect his wr way more than almost the entirety of the roster, but it's immensely more apparent the lower ranks than the opposite. It still stands that Steve got almost the same wr in purple- and blue+, which indicates that his wr isn't as misleading as you suggest.
I watch content from some really good Steve players, Shinblade's stream for example. I respect their opinions quite a lot, they got a lot of years under their belts as true Steve experts. It will be really fun to see what players like them make out of the patch and how it differs from my initial thoughts regarding Steve this patch.
We just need a mid tracking move and and we good
Ikr they need to give us back T7 S1 df2 😂
tracking can easy be a high because like only 1% of playerbase can consistently perform a side step duck in the first place and you need specific character knowledge that a character only has a good tracking high in the first place.
ub2 is f17 +3 on block with crazy +14 on hit now if +f stay the same with the lnh cancel steve now has prob the best tracking high in the game this gives guaranteed sonic fang followup into heat btw IF frames remain the same but i doubt this stays like it is because steve would be super broken.
Acrually i was practing last update before it went live around 12pm
The Guv is back we need a damage buff to machine gun punch tho
if the + frames on hit remain for the lnh entry moves
f22 is a whooping +11 on hit
so if you get the hit with it you get a guaranteed jab string followup if you do the stance cancel
this is 53 dmg from a mid that’s only -4 on block …
same goes with ub2 with crazy +14 this is a guaranteed sonic fang into heat… if the frames stay the same steve is now broken.
ok is saw he is +4 after lnh cancel so no giga bs op character
Still no shiro