Why Katana Bowing is Necessary for Budo (But Why We DON'T Do it)
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- Опубликовано: 16 июл 2024
- It is actually inaccurate to call Budo a “martial art” because Budo is originally meant to carry on the traditional fighting skills and show appreciation to the gods and respect toward each other through the process. This is why there is a saying that goes, 武道は礼に始まり礼に終わる, which means “Budo starts and ends with bowing.”
So today, Seki sensei, the 22nd headmaster of Kobudo Asayama Ichiden Ryu with 400 years of history, will introduce how we bow to the gods and our katana. It is very different from the ways it is generally done in many modern Iai Ryuha styles, so please watch till the end to find out about the details.
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I find the logic applied to the bowing very reasonable and respectful. As all considerations are taken into account. Please thank Seki Sensei for sharing this with us. On a separate note, allow this humble old man to wish you all a Happy Father's day. With much love and respect.
These subtle details are so beneficial especially in a world where attention is very superficial and focus lacking. These old traditions reel in patience to practice such things
How I was taught to bow in Aiki Ken and Aiki Jo by my teacher, Morihiro Saito, was using the Yu bow. His explanation was in weapon practice, your bow was to be shallow, so to keep eyes on your training partner. He said it did not matter the difference in rank or if your partner was your teacher. Since Aiki Ken and Aiki Jo came from Koryu like Kashima Shintō Ryu some of the old traditions carried over.
I just want to take a moment and say how much I really enjoy this series that you have created on Asayama Ichiden. I do not train actively now, but when I was younger, this was a great interest of mine, the katana. I did train and was a part of an organization from Japan. You and your Sensei touch on the nuances of the school much more than I can remember… it is good to have this.
I am deeply humbled by this thank you very much for sharing Seki-sensei and Shogo-sama!
I’m training in the style of Musō Jikiden Eishin-ryū. We have a lot of chiburi and rei.
I love the fact that Asamaya Ichiden Ryu is always ready for combat and Sensei Seki being the most humble and skillful masters of our century.
One day I dream of being sensei’s student.
Love from Myanmar!
We will be waiting for you too! www.patreon.com/lets_ask_sekisensei
This is enlightening! Thank you. We do some of these things in my Iaido school, and I've wondered why. I didn't realize there was so much mysticism involved!
We really love our Ryuha it's so brilliant 👍 Always ready for combat 🙏 We believe everything has energy or spirit and we thank everything from the car to the microwave 😮 And although we are not Japanese we have a special reverence for the Katana 🙏 We believe the Katana is one of the most spiritual symbols we have come across it just has a special energy about it 🙏 Thank you for this we love the history and trying to understand the meaning for all the acts we perform. This is so helpful 🙏 Thank you Shogo San and Master Seki for bringing this knowledge to us🙏 And not forgetting Tsukada Sensei and Kurosawa Sensei (camera guy Sensei) for all they do to share this wonderful Ryuha with us 👍🙏 Take care. Stay safe 🙏
What koryu do you practice
Well said. I am beyond grateful to be part of this community. See you Saturday!
@@outboundflight4455 Asayama Ichiden Ryuha! As in our! Take care. Stay safe 🙏
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I love this channel and all the content!
I would love to see more on two katana style from Niten Ichi Ryu :) as that is what I’m mainly training.
Thank you for all the knowledge and wisdom! :)
I trained under the Komei Juku and our bow in was similar yet different. All done with the same detail in respectful representation of the Iaijutsu training. Muso Jikiden Eishin Ryu Iaijutsu Yamauichi Ha. Watching the demonstration brought back very strong feelings and I could feel the pull of those memories. Thank you for sharing your art and in keeping alive this spirit.
I've learned so much from this channel. The moves I have learned I have applied to practicing with my Han Dynasty straight sword, albeit slight modifications of course. It is all a combination of spiritual and of exercise for me every day. Thank you so much for changing my life for the better mentally and physically.
These knowledge given in these videos is a pleasure and a privilege.
While I don't personally train in martial arts It's still fascinating to learn about them and the rituals associated with them. Thank you for sharing these videos with us
Ahhhh I'm glad we're learning about this topic, I often hesitated on asking! Didn't quite know how to phrase my questions :)
I am loving every moment of learning this system. Everything little movement has a purpose and is explained in detail.
Thank you for the video.
A martial artist in my country had self learned japanese kenjutsu. He was sharing his thought that when you have your sword, even image training with a wooden sword, suddenly all kind of bloodlust energy spike up. Put it to action and there will be bloodshed. That’s why the essence of etiquette in sword training is extremely important, it cools the hot and insane heads. The full perspective of any fight (let alone the deadly sword fight) is not only to combat but also to avoid the combat, to control the up and down scale of hostility, to make truce and dialogue instead of open fight... So people who is serious about learning sword should make a habit of respect and etiquette their reflective muscle memory. For their own safety in practical sense.
Your videos made want to take proper care of a katana I own since a long while ago, even if it is a cheap one for cosplay. Thank you for all the effort both of you are putting in these videos! 本当にありがとうございます！心から感謝します。
this is very interesting. There are aspects ,they let me view the Katana in an other way. It is always a pleasure listen to Seki Senseis Lectures. Hope I could meet him in future. Greetings from Germany
As a Christian, there are parts of this ritual that my religion prohibits me from doing, but it IS very beautiful and clearly deeply meaningful to everyone in your ryuha. Well done!
I have learned much from watch this. Thank you for sharing 🙏🙇♂ OSU!!
interesting to learn, thanks
Thanks Shogo for explaining this
At first glance it seems like alot, if one is not from these disciplines.
But, you know, it's really nice to see at the same time, the practice of routinely respecting a weapon, what it's capable of, and what it represents... handling it with such care and structure.
It's far harder to watch some practitioners of other sword disciplines, even if very skilled, still handle their weapons so complacently and sometimes completely carelessly outside of direct use.
Great video! Looking forward to more.
I don't formally train with the katana, but I quickly find myself enjoying the specific style taught by Seki Sensei. The general concept behind his style's bowing is similar to my own martial arts school's reasoning. Very much in tune with my own personal thoughts too.
いつもありがとうございます
Thanks so much
Please please please do more tanto moves I absolutely love that sword and I’m eager to see more. I was thinking of getting one myself sometime
Thank you!
I'd be interested in seeing Saki-Sensei do some of the Kyoto tourist activities.
His insight and knowledge would be immensely interesting.
I'd really like to see a Fist martial arts master or practitioner (Karate, Judo etc.)
Spar with Seki-Sensei or his student's.
Completely blind with little preparation beforehand.
Just to see the transferable skills between types of Martial Arts.
Also how fighting with a double-edged western style sword can change the Kata or techniques of Japanese Kenjutsu styles.
Like a cutlass, long-sword and so forth.
The presence of a handguard obviously changes how you can approach and pressure your opponent.
Whom doesn't have one.
My sensei taught me the Iaido federation style of bowing 🙇 but I love the difference!
"Everything begins and ends with respect." -Mas Oyama
I used to do weekly Karate.
So we'd all have to bow at the beginning and end of the lesson to the Sensei.
This is very interesting because other Koryu use different koryus customs within their syatem as well. This is mostly with the reiho and such. Really fascinating stuff. This pretty much confirms that not all koryu is pure. And even yet after so many generations amd soke the koryu we have today no matter how "pure" they say they are might do things differently than centuries ago by such a small detail with the nihonto or even body movement.
Young elder Master teach good lessons 🙏 💯 11:41
Hello! I train Hokushin Itto-ryu, in this ryuha we hold our Katana in our right hand normally, and when we bow you turn the kantana into right about 90 degree.
You mention that as you're bowing to the kamidana the tsuka should be on the left to show respect. What is the implication/meaning of placing the katana with the tsuka to the right then? Or rather, when would that be considered appropriate, given its ease-of-draw appearance? I note that Shogo-san was doing so in one shot here, but the context/surrounding was not clear. It is not something I have come across before, so I am curious. Thank you for your excellent videos!
Greetings!
Japan makes some gorgeous blades such as Yamanbagiti Kunihiro,Heshikiri Hasebe & Onikirimaru
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I’d love for Seki Sensei to do an in depth look at honor and Bushido, in a more historically accurate sense.
He covers all that frequently in these videos and in class. He’s strongly recommended the online courses if you’re able.
Excellent explanations here thank you!
When laying down katana, tsuka to left side, is the Ha facing in toward you?
Yes, the sharp side toward yourself!
Mr Shogo. Could you please ask Sensei if he has any films of him competing when he was younger and if so, would he mind sharing them on his RUclips channel ? 🙏 . Thank you.
In my martial art (well I on't practice it anymore) at the beginning and at the end we stand on seiza and say : Shikin Haramitsu Daikomyo, then we clap twice ,do a zarei and clap another time. Then do another zarei to the sensei ,(sensei ni rei), who is also doing it, saying at the same time onegaishimasu (if its on the beginning) or domo arigato gozaimashita (at the end).
I just have a bit of wood paper and steel in my hand. I got strings, call them things TzitTzits or Tehilit. I bow to The Most High YaH. And I can make steel move right. People try to teach and I appreciate that. Shalom.
I bow to the sword with it raised the once in obi, before performing kata, I do a slight bow with one foot forward. Otherwise I do it Katori Shinto Ryu way.
Hello Shogo, do you know when the tradition of bowing to combatants and to the sword originated?
I knew I spotted some Yagyu influence !!
The man was such an artist that you can trace his mindset through the techniques.
Clan Yagyu, training 007 agents since the 17th century😂
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Hey Shogo/Seki Sensei, something I've wondered about when looking at katana designs and Iaido practices is, are there weaknesses to having sukashi too open or wide? Are there iai/kenjutsu that take advantage of a more open sukashi in the tsuba?
Thank you for leaving a comment!
Seki sensei explained in a previous video that having a large Sukashi will be a disadvantage, because there is a risk of getting your fingers/hands attacked! So strictly speaking, the katana he is using is not so good… But it’s a gift from his sensei, so that’s why he still uses it!
@@letsasksekisensei which video was that? I'd love to give it a watch
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Dear Shogo, how does bowing work for those taking online lessons?
I'm curious on Seki Sensei's opinion of Ninjutsu or Nenpo and whether or not it's still practiced as a martial art or if it hasn't dissolved and been absorbed into other various schools of martial arts.
Ninpo/ninjutsu originated from Koryu... At least the unarmed combat. “Ninjutsu” is not fighting... It's non combat related skills.
@@theguyinthechair225 Ah yeah. Perhaps you're right. I did a little reading before asking the question. From what I could tell, Ninjutsu was more survival techniques for shinobi than a proper martial art. According to Google at least.
@@swindle9695 It's been a debate for quite a number of decades.
I train in Muso Shinden Ryu and Bugei Kokoro Ryu, I Can say that the katana bowing in my dojo is less complexe than Asayama Ishiden Ryu
What we're the rules about carrying two swords and why do you carry only one during the practice?
It seems the bowing ritual here is a balance between the religious/spiritual aspect and the practical need to be ready to fight at any time.
Why Katana Bowing is Necessary for Budo (But Why We DON'T Do it)
where can i see this? didnt find it while watching
I no longer do any bowing as I do not participate in budo that require it, but at one time I studied budo that bowed from seiza to a kamidana after doing kuji kiri and repeating "shinken harimitsu daikomyo" then bowing to the teacher. Hopefully I spelled that correctly. Unfortunately I think this video just confirms that I'll never participate in traditional Japanese budo again, but I still find it interesting to watch the training.
... Is it because you 'bow to no-one'-?
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Ichi yu
do you buy to the area and katana because of shinto? cause to many other cultures it would make no sense to show respect to inanimate objects
The diversity of bowing ettiquite in Japan has parralels with Java. Although we usually didn't ever bow (except to dieties) instead clasping our palms together ('sĕmbah') where we rest the clasped hands on our body already communicates the level of respect/hierarchy.
Sembah ḍaḍa: hands at chest (ḍaḍa) and facing the front, indicates mutual respect (much like yū)
Sembah grana: hands about same level as nose (grana): respect to someone elderly, or an ancient heirloom/weapon, much like the Rei
So far, both sembahs are usually done sitting cross-legged, although sembah ḍaḍa can be done standing.
Sembah karna: palms not clasped, but thumbs touching respective ears (karna), done while standing up. Done by a senior showing respect to a younger person, or as a sign of accepting a sembah from another person. Rarely known these days.
I'll be honest one thing I've kind of always been uncomfortable with when training japanese swordsmanship has been bowing to the sword, due to religious beliefs I really don't like doing it all that much I'm fine with bowing to others since it's more about respect but given the meaning of bowing to the sword it's always made me feel a little uncomfortable. But that's beside the point I really liked the video it's really interesting because I'd only ever seen swordsmanship in japanese culture as bowing to the sword as part of the process.
Your "bowing" is more like swedish bowing
I do the bowing at every dojo even if they dont want it !