She's my main, got her first to lvl 60 before i started watching any guides on yt, quite squshy but still ok, now teamed with a lvl 60 Sinesha they are cleaning campaign on brutal for 3 stars. Need a ton of money to change her equipment which i don't have atm, i'm a f2p account after all.
i have her for a more than a month(droped for me from sahrds).. i like her mechanics and how she looks, i use her as campagin farmer.. tested her in CB(t6) .. she's okihs but if i compare her with my elhain i`l say overall maybe she`s like 10% better or even less.. high end players that do 20 lvl stuff wil have no use for her.. I think she was designed for f2p players to get an decent epic with 2 aoes , but she requires to many skill books for this case.. Most ppl wil gladly take her and use for faction wars. So plarium should either make her require less books or buff her
Picked up Psylar, Royal Gaurd, and Lightsworn over the weekend! I have Big Un and Ignatius and Im still stuck on spider 16 or 17, which ever is magic. Coming up with the leg books is a MAJOR PROBLEM! Even with Legendary champions some aren't as good as epics because you cant skill the Legs up like you can other tiered champions unless you wanna spend 99bucks a day for 7 stupid books, when it takes no less then 12 to fully max a Legendary...
I agree I'm lvl 60 9 legends I spend about $200 every 2 weeks. I have first 5 fully mastered and can run anyone. I'm at Dragon and ice 18 fk 17 but can't even get past spider 13. I did just get bad el and my 2nd coldheart and I fused rhazin and I have 2 bellowers. They need gear and master but My point is at my level with the champs I do have I should at least be able to get to 15 or 16 with no masterys. I think once you get to 15 plus then champs with masteries should be able to take u to 20 If I was free 2 play or only spending $50 a month or less It would take 6 to 8 months to at least be able to get to 13. On top of that the amount of silver needed to gear and upgrade and swap gear and then to try to get skill books for everyone its impossible even for some lvl 60 players. It definitely needs returned maybe allow heal reduction or reduce the amount of spiderlings that spawn. Maybe just spawn 8 spiders per rd like with fire knight as you go up the shield increases by 5 for spider maybe just do the same with spiderlings start with 4 or 6 then increase by 2 every 5 rounds. Give people a chance
Consider her for Spider 10-ish... that could make sense for new players. But since she's the 90 day reward it makes no sense... you get her too late for where she can work lvl wise.
Literally. I started the game at the perfect time right before they upgraded to the 90-day event, and I'm at lvl 55 on my main. I'm still struggling with Stage 10 on Spiders, but I haven't been too good with balancing out all my champions to the best of my ability. I was really hoping she could help me get through spiders so I could at least get better accessories, but I guess that's out the window now, even though I got 2 extra ones of her from the Ancient shard event last week, so maybe that could be something? At least I can now do Minotaur Stage 14 on auto, so I can't complain too much, lol. Just feels like I'm blowing a lot of time (and money) into not getting very far with the game. Hopefully dumping my sacred/void shards into this shard opening event tomorrow will help some.
I'm stuck on spider 11 force. All the good champions I've got are magic and the spider lays them out. No to mention the spider heals from spiders my team never even got a turn to attack. You are right, it is depressing. I'm stuck right now across all dungeons, terrible shard pulls and constant 4-5 star gear on 4-6 drop dungeons. When I do get a 6 star it's a garbage set that no one uses.
I've been free to play for 6+ months now, I can't auto spider 14, I just simply didn't get the heroes dropping for spider dungeon as a F2P player. To go one step further, I also don't have rhazin, by checking my index i noticed that even if i held every hero i've unpacked i still would not have been able to fuse rhazin as F2P, currently struggling to beat spider 14 for the past 2+ months. Honestly it needs a heavy retune.
To add to this, I can do Golems 18, dragon 18,FK 15,All affinity keeps 15 no problem, but I can't beat spider 14 on auto or manual, it's just not possible.
I'm stuck on Spider 14 and I can auto 20 on everything else. I've been playing 4 months. I'm level 60 and I'm not F2P. My suggestion is to make the boss spawn 10 spiderlings on its odd numbered turns. You then have until its next turn to kill them. If all spiders are dead the boss throws out an AOE poison. If any spiderlings are alive the boss heals and buffs accordingly. We also REALLY need daily login rewards past the 90 days. Comparable to the final month of the 90 scheme would be acceptable with either a big pile of gems or a sacred shard on the final day.
She's fast as hell on campaign! she's a monster there! I run her with Inithwe Bloodtwin, Warmaiden and Shamrock as campaign farmers. They CRUSH spiders as well. You don't seem to like her much, I love her more than fat kids love cake! I don't even have her booked up yet!
I stopped playing since 3 weeks now and my account is really good with 12 legendary, the reason why I stopped because the game is not worth the time you put in , it’s crazy time you need to be able to compete or even have good teams or do high dungeons
I had really hard on spider 17lvl mission! Today i finally did it, i use coldheart, bellower, psylar, apoth and skullcrown. Only who isnt max skills is psylar. I really wait in terror when i have to do spider 20lvl. So close to get Arbiter that i can allmost smell her... Can u give me tips for spider and golem 20lvl?
Can't help but feel they missed the mark here, 2 aoes, def down, speed down, affinity advantage against spiders 20 everything about this said made for spiders den and now i see she may not perform much better than the standard athel because she cannot do the damage required to trigger her big move. So clearly seems like she needs an offensive boost
SO TRUE MATE! Spiders NEEDS A BALANCE! Spiders would be so fun if us(free to play) beginners would have VIABLE & Beneficial players to defeat. Cheers 🍻 Mate
Since the big meme attack is on her A3 she always uses that first which basically guarantees she isn't going to get any kills with it in these high stages. If it were on her A2, or if she just didn't use it first, she would have gotten some spiderling kills.
I pulled dark Athel day 40 in. I don't even use her, not good enough to halt my progression on other champions, and this is a problem from someone still in the early stages of the game. Can't imagine someone 90 days in, at the end game.
i was wondering why there is not much videos about dark athel. tihs video is 1 year old and explains what kind of sihtty hero it is. Well, she was a free hero after all.
I was hoping her kit was an indication of how faction wars might work, but that was clearly wrong. I really don't understand their thinking at all here. Making a champion specifically for one and only one dungeon seems like a waste of a champion.
To an extent I'm going to have to agree with you. For a 90 day log in, each of the champs given do not feel like strong epics at all. To me, this was Plarium's attempt at helping f2p players or people with little luck in summoning at early to mid stages of the game. For example, High Katun is essentially the free version of Apothecary. Yaga does similar damage to Kael on clan boss from what I've heard. Here is Dark Athel with a massive AoE targeted for taking on Spider, but what you have to realize is that Dark Athel wasn't built for Spider 20. Few champions are as it's an insanely hard boss. Dark Athel was designed to help newer players get through lower stages of Spider just like Yaga was designed to help players get started in Clan Boss. Do I agree that she is underpowered and underwhelming for a 3 month log in reward? Yes. Will Plarium buff her enough to take on Spider 20? Probably not because I really don't think that was their intention with her going into releasing her.
Yeah the main problem with that plan was placing her 90 days in. High Khatun might be useful 90 days in if you didn't already get apoth. Dark Athel... she's almost always going to be useless by the time you get her. She should be an earlier reward. I would have loved to have her during my first or even second month. Now she's just vault candy which makes me sad when i take a look.
only Pay to win players are able to play endgame :]] f2p players like me are playing average difficulty things and cant progress without crazy super duper luck which is rare ...
What happens if I completed the original 30 day login where you get a sacred shard? Does it reset and give me the 90 day login stuff or does nothing happen?
I managed to start the game just before they upgraded to the 90-day event, and I'm at lvl 55 now. I still struggle with Spiders stage 10+, so I guess she can help me out, but I feel like blowing 3+ straight months into playing the game hasn't gotten me too much progress, especially if it's only worth this character? I've felt the same about the progress rewards as well: only 1 epic book for reaching lvl 55...? And only 1 sacred shard for lvl 60?? All that effort is only worth that much, even though you get a sacred shard each month (if you're actually capable enough of getting the daily shit done every single day before 8pm)?? *sigh* I can't even answer why the game still has my attention so much, lol.
I'm starting to think this lady has not gotten a fair shake from content creators. I've seen her do some serious damage as an AOE nuke. Especially in midgame.
Sad. So Sad. That's Bad. Spider 7+ You Need Really Good Team So Up. Unless You Have 3 Very Solid AOE Life Steal Gear Pumping Defense Toons With 2 Solid Supports With 70% G Roll Gear.
She's my main, got her first to lvl 60 before i started watching any guides on yt, quite squshy but still ok, now teamed with a lvl 60 Sinesha they are cleaning campaign on brutal for 3 stars. Need a ton of money to change her equipment which i don't have atm, i'm a f2p account after all.
I've been playing for like a year, spent about $15 total, have 2 legendaries, am on lvl 9 spiders
Something ain’t right there lol
You are not alone, 💀
Damn I'm glad I'm not the only one lmao 🤣🤣🤣🤣
It's much better now!
Then u suck
i have her for a more than a month(droped for me from sahrds).. i like her mechanics and how she looks, i use her as campagin farmer.. tested her in CB(t6) .. she's okihs but if i compare her with my elhain i`l say overall maybe she`s like 10% better or even less.. high end players that do 20 lvl stuff wil have no use for her..
I think she was designed for f2p players to get an decent epic with 2 aoes , but she requires to many skill books for this case.. Most ppl wil gladly take her and use for faction wars.
So plarium should either make her require less books or buff her
If it wasnt for faction wars she would been food
Picked up Psylar, Royal Gaurd, and Lightsworn over the weekend! I have Big Un and Ignatius and Im still stuck on spider 16 or 17, which ever is magic. Coming up with the leg books is a MAJOR PROBLEM! Even with Legendary champions some aren't as good as epics because you cant skill the Legs up like you can other tiered champions unless you wanna spend 99bucks a day for 7 stupid books, when it takes no less then 12 to fully max a Legendary...
I agree I'm lvl 60 9 legends I spend about $200 every 2 weeks. I have first 5 fully mastered and can run anyone. I'm at Dragon and ice 18 fk 17 but can't even get past spider 13. I did just get bad el and my 2nd coldheart and I fused rhazin and I have 2 bellowers. They need gear and master but My point is at my level with the champs I do have I should at least be able to get to 15 or 16 with no masterys. I think once you get to 15 plus then champs with masteries should be able to take u to 20 If I was free 2 play or only spending $50 a month or less It would take 6 to 8 months to at least be able to get to 13. On top of that the amount of silver needed to gear and upgrade and swap gear and then to try to get skill books for everyone its impossible even for some lvl 60 players. It definitely needs returned maybe allow heal reduction or reduce the amount of spiderlings that spawn. Maybe just spawn 8 spiders per rd like with fire knight as you go up the shield increases by 5 for spider maybe just do the same with spiderlings start with 4 or 6 then increase by 2 every 5 rounds. Give people a chance
raid SL is just doing business, they are not for the love of the game, it's all about you buying their potions and books lol
Consider her for Spider 10-ish... that could make sense for new players. But since she's the 90 day reward it makes no sense... you get her too late for where she can work lvl wise.
Literally. I started the game at the perfect time right before they upgraded to the 90-day event, and I'm at lvl 55 on my main. I'm still struggling with Stage 10 on Spiders, but I haven't been too good with balancing out all my champions to the best of my ability. I was really hoping she could help me get through spiders so I could at least get better accessories, but I guess that's out the window now, even though I got 2 extra ones of her from the Ancient shard event last week, so maybe that could be something? At least I can now do Minotaur Stage 14 on auto, so I can't complain too much, lol. Just feels like I'm blowing a lot of time (and money) into not getting very far with the game. Hopefully dumping my sacred/void shards into this shard opening event tomorrow will help some.
I'm stuck on spider 11 force. All the good champions I've got are magic and the spider lays them out. No to mention the spider heals from spiders my team never even got a turn to attack. You are right, it is depressing. I'm stuck right now across all dungeons, terrible shard pulls and constant 4-5 star gear on 4-6 drop dungeons. When I do get a 6 star it's a garbage set that no one uses.
I've been free to play for 6+ months now, I can't auto spider 14, I just simply didn't get the heroes dropping for spider dungeon as a F2P player.
To go one step further, I also don't have rhazin, by checking my index i noticed that even if i held every hero i've unpacked i still would not have been able to fuse rhazin as F2P, currently struggling to beat spider 14 for the past 2+ months. Honestly it needs a heavy retune.
To add to this, I can do Golems 18, dragon 18,FK 15,All affinity keeps 15 no problem, but I can't beat spider 14 on auto or manual, it's just not possible.
I'm stuck on Spider 14 and I can auto 20 on everything else. I've been playing 4 months. I'm level 60 and I'm not F2P. My suggestion is to make the boss spawn 10 spiderlings on its odd numbered turns. You then have until its next turn to kill them. If all spiders are dead the boss throws out an AOE poison. If any spiderlings are alive the boss heals and buffs accordingly. We also REALLY need daily login rewards past the 90 days. Comparable to the final month of the 90 scheme would be acceptable with either a big pile of gems or a sacred shard on the final day.
She's fast as hell on campaign! she's a monster there! I run her with Inithwe Bloodtwin, Warmaiden and Shamrock as campaign farmers. They CRUSH spiders as well. You don't seem to like her much, I love her more than fat kids love cake! I don't even have her booked up yet!
I stopped playing since 3 weeks now and my account is really good with 12 legendary, the reason why I stopped because the game is not worth the time you put in , it’s crazy time you need to be able to compete or even have good teams or do high dungeons
Which legendaries? Do you sell your account? If so, how much would you want for it?
P2W
I can’t even get past spiders 7... I haven’t been playin THAT long but damn is that dungeon difficult.
I had really hard on spider 17lvl mission! Today i finally did it, i use coldheart, bellower, psylar, apoth and skullcrown. Only who isnt max skills is psylar. I really wait in terror when i have to do spider 20lvl.
So close to get Arbiter that i can allmost smell her...
Can u give me tips for spider and golem 20lvl?
Wouldn`t you want Dark Athel strike last to get the most out of her A3 for spiders at least.
Can't help but feel they missed the mark here, 2 aoes, def down, speed down, affinity advantage against spiders 20 everything about this said made for spiders den and now i see she may not perform much better than the standard athel because she cannot do the damage required to trigger her big move.
So clearly seems like she needs an offensive boost
SO TRUE MATE! Spiders NEEDS A BALANCE! Spiders would be so fun if us(free to play) beginners would have VIABLE & Beneficial players to defeat.
Cheers 🍻 Mate
Since the big meme attack is on her A3 she always uses that first which basically guarantees she isn't going to get any kills with it in these high stages. If it were on her A2, or if she just didn't use it first, she would have gotten some spiderling kills.
At 3:08 he shows all the stats for those early viewers thinking he is blocking the screen.
3.08 you see all her stats. Big as day. Total stat screen
Can you make a guide for zeloath and skartosis
You know where you place yourself on the screen can I suggest you put yourself on the left as we can't see the stats on the right ..... Thanks
I pulled dark Athel day 40 in. I don't even use her, not good enough to halt my progression on other champions, and this is a problem from someone still in the early stages of the game. Can't imagine someone 90 days in, at the end game.
i actually puled her as my first epic so it was nobrainer for me to use her :)
Very effin useful! Thanks man.
I just got dark athel on my 3rd day of new acc, is she worth using still?
i was wondering why there is not much videos about dark athel. tihs video is 1 year old and explains what kind of sihtty hero it is. Well, she was a free hero after all.
I'm doing spider 5 with sister militant and lifesteal on everyone. Bellower helps a lot in there
I was hoping her kit was an indication of how faction wars might work, but that was clearly wrong.
I really don't understand their thinking at all here. Making a champion specifically for one and only one dungeon seems like a waste of a champion.
Especially if they aren't even able to cheese said dungeon? Literally what's the point???
I think they tuned her to play in Doom Tower. Hopefully her position will be beneficial there. Fingers Crossed 🤞🏼
Did you use a character that does 50% heal reduction with aoe, and 2 coldhearts on that team when you did spiders?
To an extent I'm going to have to agree with you. For a 90 day log in, each of the champs given do not feel like strong epics at all. To me, this was Plarium's attempt at helping f2p players or people with little luck in summoning at early to mid stages of the game. For example, High Katun is essentially the free version of Apothecary. Yaga does similar damage to Kael on clan boss from what I've heard. Here is Dark Athel with a massive AoE targeted for taking on Spider, but what you have to realize is that Dark Athel wasn't built for Spider 20. Few champions are as it's an insanely hard boss. Dark Athel was designed to help newer players get through lower stages of Spider just like Yaga was designed to help players get started in Clan Boss. Do I agree that she is underpowered and underwhelming for a 3 month log in reward? Yes. Will Plarium buff her enough to take on Spider 20? Probably not because I really don't think that was their intention with her going into releasing her.
I have high khatun and used her as food coz i don't have the books to skill her up haha apoth is all skilled up, she's gone for me lol
Yeah the main problem with that plan was placing her 90 days in. High Khatun might be useful 90 days in if you didn't already get apoth. Dark Athel... she's almost always going to be useless by the time you get her. She should be an earlier reward. I would have loved to have her during my first or even second month. Now she's just vault candy which makes me sad when i take a look.
I used her to rank up ma Aothar i had her long time ago 5 star ...
I need two more days to get her. can't wait...
me too im getting all her potions eady.
only Pay to win players are able to play endgame :]] f2p players like me are playing average difficulty things and cant progress without crazy super duper luck which is rare ...
can you do a champion guide for Drexthar Bloodtwin ?
Build Valerie, is she worth 6*? f2p players need this imho
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Yea man! F that spider 20... lol!! Plarium you better nerf that bug
no one is going to talk about his coldheart doing 600k damage?
I see somone cold heart doing 2millions damage in spider 20
Yep..dragon super tanky..600k in dragon is very high
What happens if I completed the original 30 day login where you get a sacred shard? Does it reset and give me the 90 day login stuff or does nothing happen?
NuclearBAM yes, and you get high khatun next day
I managed to start the game just before they upgraded to the 90-day event, and I'm at lvl 55 now. I still struggle with Spiders stage 10+, so I guess she can help me out, but I feel like blowing 3+ straight months into playing the game hasn't gotten me too much progress, especially if it's only worth this character?
I've felt the same about the progress rewards as well: only 1 epic book for reaching lvl 55...? And only 1 sacred shard for lvl 60?? All that effort is only worth that much, even though you get a sacred shard each month (if you're actually capable enough of getting the daily shit done every single day before 8pm)?? *sigh* I can't even answer why the game still has my attention so much, lol.
I'm starting to think this lady has not gotten a fair shake from content creators. I've seen her do some serious damage as an AOE nuke. Especially in midgame.
what about the aoe base on the amount of enemy and max hp
I seriously doubt her A1 hits as hard as turvold A1 LUL
It is awkward how bad she is compared to real athel
Sad. So Sad. That's Bad. Spider 7+ You Need Really Good Team So Up. Unless You Have 3 Very Solid AOE Life Steal Gear Pumping Defense Toons With 2 Solid Supports With 70% G Roll Gear.
Food.
November 2021 Still Trash
so i was happy.. than i am not now.. another useless drop by :/
Pay to win...
Spider 20 is supposef to be hard