@@rickycoverrubias6176 of course they need resupply because they don't have proper arms industry. They need support from freedom-loving nations. But it would be no time they will develop credible defense against Putin.
@@battlebornsupermoto954 you people live in a bubble. You can literally watch all the ammo storage sites and airbases Russia has recently destroyed. Ukraine is retreating and sometimes getting surrounded all along the front
It is easier for them to fantasize about a new tech solving everything. These liberal western states have gotten so soft, and spent so many decades teaching their own young people to be ashamed of their countries, be ashamed of their heritage; to treat patriotism as a sin....a cool new gadget, they understand; they wish they can solve all their problems so simply. But something like the psychology; the cultural preparedness or nationalism required to endure and win a long, serious war (as well as the sacrifice of comforts and conveniences)....this, they cannot dare imagine.
None of this western analysts are talking about how thoroughly and efficiently the Russians are pacifying the regions that they are conquering from Ukraine, there is no rear-guard resistance.And any analyst worth their salt will tell you that in a war of territorial conquest, the real work begins trying to pacify the territory---some occupations have been trying it unsuccessfully pacify their occupied territories for nearly 76yrs....
Remember when the f-117 was shot down by the old soviet S-125 in serbia in 1999. Now Russia has many more modern air defence systems than that, and again, f-16 worth millions of dollars will be able to do nothing much - surely not a game changer.
1.5 years ago, could the HIMARS win the war? 1 year ago, could the Leopard 2 tank win the war? Now, can the F16 win the war? ---------------------------------------------------------- Isnt it boring and lazy to use different subjects but apply with the same topic? People should ask, what weapons in DW experts' view can win the war? Or can DW predict what Zelensky will urgently ask in a year?
The reality of war changes every few weeks. What is needed right now probably would be useless later. Ukraine is always receiving what it needs with at least 1 year lag for LOLz.
Every little straw added to the camel's back will break russia! Russia knows it cant win without helping trump get elected. And I dont think even the pro Russian American politicians think trump will be elected now! MTG will be just a moment to laugh at in the history books.
@@Mst-bh9ti yes non of Russia has got state of the are defences! The west is drip feeding old weapons that russia cant beat and also use up the Russian resources and make them weak. Russia is trying with all its might to get a ceasefire because russia will implode if the dont have full support of china. And china isnt going to get into any wars anytime soon.
@@PeterLawton I think he meant peace negotiations will not happen this year, for political reasons - but the longer the West refuses, the more Russia is going to take and solidify their control of eastern and (perhaps soon) central Ukraine. Already in late 2022, EU diplomat sources who had been to Ukraine identified a Russian takeover of Slovjansk and Kramatorsk as the tipping point that would bring about a serious redrawing of Europe's Ukraine strategy, a recognition that it was no longer realistic to give Kiev in blanco support for ever and expect a coming reversal. Those two key cities, along with Pokrovsk, are now only about 20-25 km away from the front and they will most likely fall in the next few months. Behind them, there is little in the way of possible fortifications and defence lines so once Russia has taken over those three, the advance towards the Dniepr river would likely speed up.
why would ukraine tell anybody where they are basing their most important tool? and why would you even ask them continuously? Let ukraine have its secrecy like russia has. Russia is a mystery to the west..we know very little of anything going on behind those lines.
@@cyberfunk3793 Same year when this Dutch F16 illegali attact SR Yugoslavia cos Monika Levinski polished Williliam De-Bill Clington No1 in world in Shuntavilo , familly balls . . Look to me like you were there with Monika
Satellite footage shows all russian military vehicles in good condition or needed light maintenance is now on the front lines. Most military bases are nearly empty or have vehicles in need of serious repairs before becoming operational. russia had to beg Iran and North Korea for weapons. While Ukraine has gotten some good gear, each item is often is not in a quantity large enough to be considered “a game changer”, yet everything in total was in comparison to having nothing but old Soviet stocks.
You just don't like what he's saying because he's telling the truth, the F16, whether driven by Nato pilots or Ukrainian pilots, they will man no much difference.
2022: "Send horwitzers, that will be a game changer", 2023 :"Send MBTs, that will be a gane changer", 2024: "Send F-16, that will be a game changer"....
It was a game changer. Who knows how far russian troops would have gotten without all that gear. In case you didn’t notice, the gains have been negligible since the early 2023
It was a game changer. Who knows how far russian troops would have gotten without all that gear. In case you didn’t notice, the gains have been negligible since the early 2023
50 operational tanks are not a Game changer. The front is too big. You can calculate how many tanks per square kilometers this is. Stop believing in wunderwaffels. Enemies of Russia always underestimate them, believe in aryan super race with wunderwaffels, and then loose.
Fighter aircraft have lost their signicance in war as drones and long range artillery are more affective and more economic to use .Even Russia use its aircraft sparingly and mainly just as platforms to launch missiles from and their guided bombs
You need to train the pilots to a new system, in a language that they don't speak, and relearn new tactics and strategies, moreover you must train engineers and maintenance personnel. They are not buying a plane, they are acquiring a whole system. And you also need protection system (Patriots) to be already deployed to protect these assets. The fact that they were able to do that in a year is remarkable, actually.
Yes... but later on.... the axial jet engine was lateral adopter by both Soviet and US.... The F16 was the first fully computerized Flight Control Sistem... later adopter by all others.... But will offcoarse not change the war from one Day to another...very logical.
One thing is for certain: If everyone is speculating that they will be parked in Starokonstaniev (or whatever it is called) then they will NOT be stationed there. Maskirovka, baby!! .
@@Detvanliga doesn't matter wherever they're parked. The instant they show themselves above ground Russian satellites will be directing Iskanders on those toys.
Zelensky. F-16 will break Russian dominance in Ukraine airspace. So.. where's the ghost of kiev bro. I though you said he kill 15 russian aircrafts every month. Where's the Ukrainian tom cruise? 😂
@@lloydgarth1 You know less to nothing about them except what your government has told you about them and we know how bad your government has always been.
@@lloydgarth1 ...after the French and US war against (North) Korea. Not to forget, Afghanistan, Libyen, Syrien, Irak, Vietnam, Cambodia, Somalia and many other attacked countries, like Republic of Congo, Chile, Nicaragua, Panama, Egypt a.s.o..
Agree, the only thing that reasonably would have had a chance of turning the war around would have been a massive intervention by NATO with their *own* armies, hundreds of their own fighter aircraft (plus most likely a second front in the southern Baltic Sea/Poland/Belarus region). That was never a realistic option seen from the West - NAT0 have no wish to risk a massive bleeding of their own forces and a possible expansion into WW3, and they haven't actually fought a ground war of this kind against a peer adversary for more than half a century - so the framework remains to keep on pumoing nutrition fluid, big money and armament to UKraine, and that in itself is not a winning concept against Russia. UA is a Lost Cause for OTAN but DC, Brussels and London refuse to admit that the game is up. They keep hurting themselves (especially mainland Europe)
@@pacivalmuller9333 Perspicaicity tactics. You may not realize it but Y.T is very adept at insta-mutng or blocking comments that get too blunt and straight for their liking.
@@pacivalmuller9333 Thanks. If this were a genuinely free and transparent platform where you didn't tisk getting gagged, suspended or run down by scores of ign0rant tr0lls, I would be putting some things in a completely different way. Unfortunately YT seems to disrespect the community and their rights to talk openly.
The best explanation I can give for why this is taking so long is a combination of Pro Putin politicians who have deliberately stalled all aid to Ukraine, not just these F-16s, in basically every country that has F-16s to give, not just the US along with aging politicians in those same countries who DO support Ukraine but are following a policy of escalation limitation and management I deeply disagree with. On top of that there's military training for not only the pilots but also the ground support crew like the maintainers and other technicians that needs to happen even if the personnel have experience with soviet equivalent planes, and bureaucratic and logistical issues that need to be planned for and solved so that the Ukrainian F-16s don't run out of spare parts on the first day. The reason DW is reporting on this is because the entire process is a public issue, there might be elements of the process that will not be disclosed but the fact that Ukraine asked for fighter jets and several countries responded that they'd like to donate them is not a secret at all.
@chefchaudard3580 can you give me a source where Putin or Army general it was supposed to be a three day operation? In the end friend Russia will have the four regions and you know it. You also know perfectly well this is a proxy war by NATO with the expense of Ukraininians under the leadership of the comedian in cargo pants. I encourage you to see a speech from Putin in 2007, Munichs security conference. You will be amazed how all became true.
Everyone expected the game to be over in days. Something keeps changing it, how else is Ukraine still in existence vs what was supposed to be the 2nd best military in the world?
@@peter65zzfdfh Not because of tiny quantities of wonder weapons that often don't work as well as promised. That was the German strategy in late 1944-45. Not exactly effective. Some of them perform well (Javelins, Bradleys), some are a huge disappointment, inferior to the Soviet stuff they were supposed to replace (like Challenger tanks which kept getting stuck in mud and had to be withdrawn from the fight, or bayraktar drones which are basically not used anymore because they are so easy to jam with electronic warfare countermeasures). The willpower and tactics as well as just having enough of everything is more important than any particular "game changer," especially as most of the real fighting is still done with T-series tanks, Kalashnikov rifles, RPGs etc. That, and the fact that Russia has not had very brilliant tactics, thank goodness.
This will be the first time in history for F-16s to encounter the Mordan Air Defense System. Ukraine is already confident in labelling them as a game changer. They previously lauded NATO artillery shells as a game changer but saw their accuracy drop from 90% to 5%, rendering them ineffective.
Fortunately for the Ukrainians the only modern air defense system in the area is the one protecting them. The F16’s are well equipped to take out modern anti air systems.
@peter65zzfdfh Those few Patriot missiles are modern air defense? Besides them tending to miss Russian rockets and instead hit some civilian housing they are already been hunted down. Meanwhile, as the main comment said, Russian air defense and electronic warfare is impressive. From 90% to 5%. That makes the weapon OBSOLETE.
Every new weapon is a "game changer"... but no, that never happens. What Ukraine needs more than anything is more troops, and I don't see how that can happen.
What they need more is to surrender before they lose their whole country they will never defeat Russia lol it’s like saying Mexico can defeat US lol the worlds gone insane
@@Watashinoakuma8312 There are 3 type of peace available. One without bloodshed (2014). One based on reality (2022 spring). And one based on surrender (when Ukraine is defated).
@@johnsmith-ee6tr they probably don't want the world to see them destroyed by the Russians, after the M1 Abrams it would be a new humiliation for the US🤣🤣🤣🤣
Lol... lets list the 'game changer'' weapons shall we: HIMARS PATRIOT aa system Abrams tank Leopard tanks Storm Shadow missiles F-16's... The game doesnt seem to have changed much...
Everything he received its a game changer but when he loses them from Russian bombing he crys for different weapons, next he'll be asking for submarines and b52 bombers.
People have to stop focusing on one thing as a "game changer". The only thing that will really change the game is a continuous flow of aid. One delivery of a few jets changes little. It has to keep coming.
The answer is no. They are only getting a few of these planes so they can’t risk one getting shot down. They won’t be able to use the F-16 as it is intended to be used.
There’s more being supplied than they have lost aircraft total. No doubt they will not be used extremely aggressively but numbers aren’t really the problem. The problem is having enough clear runways to move them around as they’re most at risk on the ground. The F16 needs a much better runway than just about any other jet.
@@eddastrohmayer251 : During the early part of the Korean War, North Korean MiG-15 fighters operated from air bases in China. This was before China actually entered the war.
Why does the west fool the Ukranians. Such a small amount they are sending is enough to turn the tide? We hear other stories in my country,they are sending a few of the best tanks there are.......LEOPARD 2.......wasn't that the tank that like the Abrams failed on the battlefield more than a year ago?
If these so called western allies actually cared about their Ukraine, they would have sent F-22, F-35 and eurofighters in large numbers. Ukrainians are just cannon fodder for them.😢
The US needs Ukraine without Ukrainian army. With elongation of the war it happens and also Europe loses its weapons and competitiveness. The remnant part of Ukraine will be owned by BlackRock, serving US interests and Europe will buy US weaponry with giving up its own military industry.
@@occamraiser Troll, Ask General Gerasimov. He is in charge. But just offhand, I would say that lacking nuclear weapons, destroying the entire UAF was not a priority. The Russians have been busy destroying weapons depots, air defenses and electric infrastructure. The Russian AF has been intercepting UAF and hitting them on the ground. The UAF had to get MIG-29s from other countries to replace their losses. The MIG-29 can operate from grass fields because their intakes are protected from foreign object damage and they can be hidden from the Russians. But it is only a matter of time before the UAF is completely destroyed.
Most people aren’t expecting any major changes this year, and perhaps the same next year, so it could be a battle of attrition with the Ukrainians still refusing to concede land.
@@chadclay1643 🤣🤣🤣 I think US F16 also gets the LGBTQ upgrade, too. That is a must in 2024. 🤓 The F16 will identify itself as a F 35. I clearly could see how it debates with the Russian radars and missiles...🤣
In the modern battlefield, only Gen 5 fighters will have a chance. You see how many Russian and Ukrainian Gen 4 fighters have been shot down? The F16s will have to evade modern Russian missiles which will not be easy.
No the balance won't tip in Ukraine's favor. F16's are nice but they are not a gamechanger. Ukraine will have to use them the same as the older russian fighter jets they use now, or they get shot down too.
Nah. They would help. But I think the West is just waiting for Russia to prep for them. That's why they always say "what will come" with at least 1 year before it comes, so Russia could prepare.
@@xantiom Ukros will never annex Crimea, they tried it in 2023 where they were better prepared, and failed misserably. They will never archive the combat strenght of 2023, meanwhile Russia is now much stronger then 2023.
@@uralprospector I've watched some Russian TV of how children who lost their dads get bicycles as compensation, complete with a thumbs up and smile for the camera with a 74-year-old Russian local politician. Trade your dad for a bicycle. Soon all Russian orphans will be mobilized on bicycles.
My friend think we know who's going be in some these jets my friend . Ukrainian pilots are flying the mig29s over in ukraine but f16 will be flown mostly by western pilots with zero admission from western goverments
Game changer? In what way? You don't you think Russia see them coming from a long way off? Non- stealth 40 years old aircrafts don't stand a chance. Russia's pilots training hard too for this. West is pathetic.
Yep, also there will be only a rather limited number of them coming in over the next 2-3 months(shortage of properly trained Ukrainian pilots being just one of the reasons) and there are no useful and safe airfield to launch them from in central or southern Ukraine, so most likely they will have to be based in Romania. This is very far from a game-changer, but Kiev and their PR campaign will style each new supplied western weapon in turn as a Wunderwaffe.
@@sturmx96 it's all over in plain site. I'm not pro one or the other. Both are bad and evil. But Russia's superiority is very obvious. They are pioneering modern warfare, they're making progress every weeks, Ukraine has been unable to take back a single territory.
0:08 Kiev says 'game changer'. They also called Javelin, Bayraktar, HIMARS, NLAW, Switchblade, ATACMS and Patriot for game changers, but the game has not changed. They need many, many of F-16s, pilots to fly them, crews for maintenance, good armament - which they do not have/get.
The game changed many times, each one halted a Russian advance or made them withdraw supplies further back into Russia. If the game hadn’t changed there would be no more Ukraine. Just still existing against what was supposed to be the 2nd best military in the world is proof.
@@peter65zzfdfh It was not because of these weapons per se; it was the result of overall strategy, Russian miscalculations, etc. Almost all of these systems (with the possible exception of the Javelin, which really seems to have done a great job) have substitutes, or the Russians have an equivalent, often a better equivalent. Having many different types of "Game changer " weapons in small numbers are not what wins large-scale modern wars; if they were, Germany would have won ww2 easily.
"Game changer" is just a buzz word. Reality is all these western weapons collectively matter hugely and are responsible along with amazing Ukrainian determination.
A 50year old plane up against Russia and it's brand new jets, it's formidable air defence, seriously stop this foolish war today save thousands of lives tomorrow
« Brand new jets »😂😂😂 All date back to the Soviet times. The Su-27 which gave birth to the planes Russia use today first flew in 1977! The Tu-22 in the 60s!
Yes....people often overlook that the F16 was introduced in the 1970s and even then, it wasn't the top line fighter (that was the twin-engine F15); the F16 was the cheaper, more mass-production-oriented fighter. And, of course, much has changed in the decades since then. Russia does not have a lot of its new generation fighters as a percentage of its air force, but they vastly outnumber the amount of (old, worn-out) F16s promised to Ukraine.
@@Hyper584k Stop selecting your preferential enemy and deal with the one right infront of you---if you can't handle the kremlin in Europe how can you survive an expeditionary engagement against China...???
@@ricardosmythe2548 “F-16 fighter jets arrive in Ukraine but may not tip advantage against Russia” - Washington Post already making articles about it. The only game changer in this conflict so far was the FPV drone
@@WorldlyBudget everything gifted to Ukraine along with training and assistance building military structure since 2014 has been game changing. The west has transformed Ukraine from a state that could put up no resistance what so ever when Crimea was taken in 2014 to one that has forced what was thought of as the 2nd most capable armed forces on earth to crawl forward making small gains while taking huge losses. Regardless of how this conflict pans out Russia has lost.
@@WorldlyBudgetI agree, it will not tip. At least not from Day one. But there is a shitload of poor and wrong information on RUclips. And a lot of commenters, who are commenting obviously without knowing facts. And Even Washington Post hasnt a clue on the actual number of jets nor the training standard of the pilots and technicians.
Sick of constant excuses ! Soldiers barely holding the line, people are not endless Surely its artificial delays. I wonder who pulling the strings and playing dodgy game here
Not really an excuse, it takes decades to build an airforce, it takes years of training to train pilots, mechanics and maintenance crews, the most advance equipment will not be effective under untrained soldiers.
@@Meeko2689 the thing is .. Ukraine sent best pilots who are already was capable to fly. Two years later they are already trained to new gear and softwear . Ready for mission
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They have nothing to worry about, Russia doesn`t target military facilities.
Then why kiev always complaining about supplies??
@@rickycoverrubias6176 cause they used them all.
@@rickycoverrubias6176 of course they need resupply because they don't have proper arms industry. They need support from freedom-loving nations. But it would be no time they will develop credible defense against Putin.
@@battlebornsupermoto954 you people live in a bubble. You can literally watch all the ammo storage sites and airbases Russia has recently destroyed. Ukraine is retreating and sometimes getting surrounded all along the front
@@battlebornsupermoto954 On russian live manpower💀
They will help but nothing is a silver bullet. I wish they would stop making these dumb reports
It is easier for them to fantasize about a new tech solving everything. These liberal western states have gotten so soft, and spent so many decades teaching their own young people to be ashamed of their countries, be ashamed of their heritage; to treat patriotism as a sin....a cool new gadget, they understand; they wish they can solve all their problems so simply. But something like the psychology; the cultural preparedness or nationalism required to endure and win a long, serious war (as well as the sacrifice of comforts and conveniences)....this, they cannot dare imagine.
Anxiety issues in a comfy chair.
Ukraine and the mainstream media needs these dom report. It helps them to gain views and attention
@@WangMingGe Unlike the fantasies that china feeds its people?
@@hypnophonz They really ARE only about as good as russian 4th Gen aircraft. We aren't talking about the arrival of f35s!
Seriously??? Why are they forgetting that they are in war, not in a movie theater
wdym , its a hollywood movie remember the ukrainian counter offensive trailer 🤫 ukraine is always winning on hollywood 😂
😂😂😂
None of this western analysts are talking about how thoroughly and efficiently the Russians are pacifying the regions that they are conquering from Ukraine, there is no rear-guard resistance.And any analyst worth their salt will tell you that in a war of territorial conquest, the real work begins trying to pacify the territory---some occupations have been trying it unsuccessfully pacify their occupied territories for nearly 76yrs....
Ghost of Kyiv 😅
@@avex3903 And the Russian trailer ,, WE WON in 11 days !!!!!!
Disliked due to overuse of the term "Game Changer".
Remember when the f-117 was shot down by the old soviet S-125 in serbia in 1999. Now Russia has many more modern air defence systems than that, and again, f-16 worth millions of dollars will be able to do nothing much - surely not a game changer.
1.5 years ago, could the HIMARS win the war?
1 year ago, could the Leopard 2 tank win the war?
Now, can the F16 win the war?
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Isnt it boring and lazy to use different subjects but apply with the same topic?
People should ask, what weapons in DW experts' view can win the war? Or can DW predict what Zelensky will urgently ask in a year?
He will be asking for putin’s surrender!
The reality of war changes every few weeks. What is needed right now probably would be useless later. Ukraine is always receiving what it needs with at least 1 year lag for LOLz.
Every little straw added to the camel's back will break russia! Russia knows it cant win without helping trump get elected. And I dont think even the pro Russian American politicians think trump will be elected now! MTG will be just a moment to laugh at in the history books.
Yes, besides the fact that the F-16:is no longer anything like state of the art.
@@Mst-bh9ti yes non of Russia has got state of the are defences! The west is drip feeding old weapons that russia cant beat and also use up the Russian resources and make them weak. Russia is trying with all its might to get a ceasefire because russia will implode if the dont have full support of china. And china isnt going to get into any wars anytime soon.
The real game changer would be something called peace and cooperation
With the Russians ???
@@tilapiadave3234 yes with everybody including Russia, but don't worry is not going to happen
@@sal-z3q Why is peace with Russia not going to happen?
@@PeterLawton I think he meant peace negotiations will not happen this year, for political reasons - but the longer the West refuses, the more Russia is going to take and solidify their control of eastern and (perhaps soon) central Ukraine. Already in late 2022, EU diplomat sources who had been to Ukraine identified a Russian takeover of Slovjansk and Kramatorsk as the tipping point that would bring about a serious redrawing of Europe's Ukraine strategy, a recognition that it was no longer realistic to give Kiev in blanco support for ever and expect a coming reversal.
Those two key cities, along with Pokrovsk, are now only about 20-25 km away from the front and they will most likely fall in the next few months. Behind them, there is little in the way of possible fortifications and defence lines so once Russia has taken over those three, the advance towards the Dniepr river would likely speed up.
No money in peace
why would ukraine tell anybody where they are basing their most important tool? and why would you even ask them continuously? Let ukraine have its secrecy like russia has. Russia is a mystery to the west..we know very little of anything going on behind those lines.
They told everyone when and where the summer expensive was going to be in 2023… remember.. the commercial.. SHHHHHHHH
You can't hide things the size of a fighter jet against satellites. Russia will know where they are in less than a day.
Media care about making money bye revealing public private details to get veiws
Its what happens two commedians
Become friends Biden Zelensky 😂
The entire battlespace has become remarkably transparent. Russias secrets seem to be how much they are lying about capabilities.
don't worry Maverick personally fine tuned the F-16 and trained the pilots - eat your pop corns and watch the movie😂😂😂😂
in 1999, an F-16CG was shot down over Serbia. It was downed by an S-125 which is a soviet anti air missile designed in the 50s and introduced in 1961
@@Commissar_4735 You mean the same year when the Dutch F-16 shot down a Serbian Mig-29?
Yeah, these F-16's changing anything over there will be just as much fantasy as one of Tom Cruise's Top Gun movies.
@@cyberfunk3793 Same year when this Dutch F16 illegali attact SR Yugoslavia cos Monika Levinski polished
Williliam De-Bill Clington No1 in world in Shuntavilo , familly balls . . Look to me like you were there with Monika
Doubtful. Mav is a Naval Aviator...
The answer is - Nope.
But the F-16 hype buys Zelinsky some time and that's all he's looking for now. Keep the war going so he doesn't lose power.
The answer is - you don't know.
Just because you wanted it no, it doesn’t mean no😂
Short answer: no
Long answer: nooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Lmfao you made my day
Does the so-called f-16 worth millions of dollars want to try against various types of Russian air defence systems?
According to the Washington Post - there will be 20 planes and just 6 trained pilots !!! Change the war? rofl.
Yes ... the aircraft will need maintenance. So can't fly all 20 at once anyways or you'd be left with 0 working jets at times.
You not experienced war otherwise you would6 aircraft defeat the whole Argentina airforce
Boston Globe says 11.
@@saintac31northernsoulaaah, they are fighting Argentina's airforce now eh? Very English(British) of Ukraine
And how many missiles? 2? 200? 2000?
Another game changer.
So funny! Same story as the Leopards are coming, Russia is running out of missiles, the Abrams are coming, the Ghost of Kiev, etc....
3 days... 🤣
@@rampageExtremeGamer By General Milley.
how is that 3day special military operation going, ivan?
@@alfredneuman6911 Ask General Milley, it was his prediction...
Satellite footage shows all russian military vehicles in good condition or needed light maintenance is now on the front lines. Most military bases are nearly empty or have vehicles in need of serious repairs before becoming operational. russia had to beg Iran and North Korea for weapons. While Ukraine has gotten some good gear, each item is often is not in a quantity large enough to be considered “a game changer”, yet everything in total was in comparison to having nothing but old Soviet stocks.
DW is not biased...😂😂😂😂😂😂
40 year old aircraft against modern weapons systems, sure, game changer.
40???? You mean 50. Look up when the F16 was introduced. Of course, if anything, that reinforces your assessment.
50.
What modern weapons systems? These aren't the 40 year old models either. Those were parked a long time ago.
Game Over, the NATO just sending Ukraine soldiers to die in this war
The F16 in its updated form with the latest radars and missles is far more capable than anything Russia has.
another game-changer
Listen to the interview
Jesus… to listen to that military analyst is utterly depressing
There's power In the name of Jesus
@@VDJ4500 . Why because you hate Russia 🇷🇺 and it doesn't fit your narrative 🇷🇺
there's power in the banana stand
@@andyv6299 Problems solved.
You just don't like what he's saying because he's telling the truth, the F16, whether driven by Nato pilots or Ukrainian pilots, they will man no much difference.
2022: "Send horwitzers, that will be a game changer", 2023 :"Send MBTs, that will be a gane changer", 2024: "Send F-16, that will be a game changer"....
the press is concerned with "Gamechangers", it ignores military reality that each capability enhances the effects of the others.
It was a game changer. Who knows how far russian troops would have gotten without all that gear. In case you didn’t notice, the gains have been negligible since the early 2023
It was a game changer. Who knows how far russian troops would have gotten without all that gear. In case you didn’t notice, the gains have been negligible since the early 2023
50 operational tanks are not a Game changer. The front is too big. You can calculate how many tanks per square kilometers this is. Stop believing in wunderwaffels. Enemies of Russia always underestimate them, believe in aryan super race with wunderwaffels, and then loose.
@@squiresonyeah. No system is a game changer. There is no game changer in war unless the game was rigged from the start.
why not have retired pilots fly them as mercs?
Just a reminder: USA lost over 2500 fixed-wing aircraft in Vietnam war. Here we expect how many aircraft?
Aircraft is the plural of aircraft. No s.
What does Vietnam war have to do with this war? And by your reasoning, Ukraine should not use military aircraft at all, for fear of losing them?
Fighter aircraft have lost their signicance in war as drones and long range artillery are more affective and more economic to use .Even Russia use its aircraft sparingly and mainly just as platforms to launch missiles from and their guided bombs
Never enough from game changers.
Pouring more oil on the fire.
The fact that it has taken this long to get the f-16s is a huge joke come on
You need to train the pilots to a new system, in a language that they don't speak, and relearn new tactics and strategies, moreover you must train engineers and maintenance personnel.
They are not buying a plane, they are acquiring a whole system. And you also need protection system (Patriots) to be already deployed to protect these assets.
The fact that they were able to do that in a year is remarkable, actually.
Usually the process takes nearly 4 years.
Or you just bring ‘volunteers’ from nato countries that know how to use the systems
Balls to the wall
Me-262 was a "game changer" too?
Yes... but later on.... the axial jet engine was lateral adopter by both Soviet and US....
The F16 was the first fully computerized Flight Control Sistem... later adopter by all others....
But will offcoarse not change the war from one Day to another...very logical.
Answer- No
They will help the same way Abrahams did???😂
One thing is for certain: If everyone is speculating that they will be parked in Starokonstaniev (or whatever it is called) then they will NOT be stationed there. Maskirovka, baby!!
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Why do they need parking? They need to be working, not parking. If they need repairs then go to Poland or outside Ukraine
@@Detvanliga doesn't matter wherever they're parked. The instant they show themselves above ground Russian satellites will be directing Iskanders on those toys.
@@wolfswinkel8906 Russian military satellite coverage is junk.
Quite literally space junk.
@@wolfswinkel8906 We're counting on it.
It's called bait.
@@wamingo last time it happened with the MiG 29s those explosions didn't seem like bait.
Zelensky. F-16 will break Russian dominance in Ukraine airspace.
So.. where's the ghost of kiev bro. I though you said he kill 15 russian aircrafts every month. Where's the Ukrainian tom cruise? 😂
I'm sick of the "American Dream". It's time to live in reality...
Yes! Lets all live like North Koreans!
@@lloydgarth1 You know less to nothing about them except what your government has told you about them and we know how bad your government has always been.
@@lloydgarth1 ...after the French and US war against (North) Korea. Not to forget, Afghanistan, Libyen, Syrien, Irak, Vietnam, Cambodia, Somalia and many other attacked countries, like Republic of Congo, Chile, Nicaragua, Panama, Egypt a.s.o..
Another game Changer 😂
At this point nothing can tip the balance in Ukraines favor.
Agree, the only thing that reasonably would have had a chance of turning the war around would have been a massive intervention by NATO with their *own* armies, hundreds of their own fighter aircraft (plus most likely a second front in the southern Baltic Sea/Poland/Belarus region). That was never a realistic option seen from the West - NAT0 have no wish to risk a massive bleeding of their own forces and a possible expansion into WW3, and they haven't actually fought a ground war of this kind against a peer adversary for more than half a century - so the framework remains to keep on pumoing nutrition fluid, big money and armament to UKraine, and that in itself is not a winning concept against Russia. UA is a Lost Cause for OTAN but DC, Brussels and London refuse to admit that the game is up. They keep hurting themselves (especially mainland Europe)
@@Fleur-fg4nr "and possible expansion of WW3" buddy, NATO would START WW3 by doing what you said.
@@pacivalmuller9333 Perspicaicity tactics. You may not realize it but Y.T is very adept at insta-mutng or blocking comments that get too blunt and straight for their liking.
@@Fleur-fg4nr Agreed.
@@pacivalmuller9333 Thanks. If this were a genuinely free and transparent platform where you didn't tisk getting gagged, suspended or run down by scores of ign0rant tr0lls, I would be putting some things in a completely different way. Unfortunately YT seems to disrespect the community and their rights to talk openly.
Yes, they keep saying there coming for months. Not sue what is taking so long. Why tell the enemy when they are due?
The best explanation I can give for why this is taking so long is a combination of Pro Putin politicians who have deliberately stalled all aid to Ukraine, not just these F-16s, in basically every country that has F-16s to give, not just the US along with aging politicians in those same countries who DO support Ukraine but are following a policy of escalation limitation and management I deeply disagree with. On top of that there's military training for not only the pilots but also the ground support crew like the maintainers and other technicians that needs to happen even if the personnel have experience with soviet equivalent planes, and bureaucratic and logistical issues that need to be planned for and solved so that the Ukrainian F-16s don't run out of spare parts on the first day. The reason DW is reporting on this is because the entire process is a public issue, there might be elements of the process that will not be disclosed but the fact that Ukraine asked for fighter jets and several countries responded that they'd like to donate them is not a secret at all.
Yeah, Yeah. Himars, Leopards, Bradleys , etc. We're all game changers. 😂
Abrahms too
@@Herodotus__ …and here we are, two years and a half after the start of the « 3 days special operation » 😉
@chefchaudard3580 can you give me a source where Putin or Army general it was supposed to be a three day operation? In the end friend Russia will have the four regions and you know it. You also know perfectly well this is a proxy war by NATO with the expense of Ukraininians under the leadership of the comedian in cargo pants. I encourage you to see a speech from Putin in 2007, Munichs security conference. You will be amazed how all became true.
Everyone expected the game to be over in days. Something keeps changing it, how else is Ukraine still in existence vs what was supposed to be the 2nd best military in the world?
@@peter65zzfdfh Not because of tiny quantities of wonder weapons that often don't work as well as promised. That was the German strategy in late 1944-45. Not exactly effective. Some of them perform well (Javelins, Bradleys), some are a huge disappointment, inferior to the Soviet stuff they were supposed to replace (like Challenger tanks which kept getting stuck in mud and had to be withdrawn from the fight, or bayraktar drones which are basically not used anymore because they are so easy to jam with electronic warfare countermeasures). The willpower and tactics as well as just having enough of everything is more important than any particular "game changer," especially as most of the real fighting is still done with T-series tanks, Kalashnikov rifles, RPGs etc. That, and the fact that Russia has not had very brilliant tactics, thank goodness.
What happened to the previous game changers 🤔 Begensky is a great entertainer 😂😂😂
This will be the first time in history for F-16s to encounter the Mordan Air Defense System. Ukraine is already confident in labelling them as a game changer. They previously lauded NATO artillery shells as a game changer but saw their accuracy drop from 90% to 5%, rendering them ineffective.
Fortunately for the Ukrainians the only modern air defense system in the area is the one protecting them. The F16’s are well equipped to take out modern anti air systems.
@peter65zzfdfh
Those few Patriot missiles are modern air defense? Besides them tending to miss Russian rockets and instead hit some civilian housing they are already been hunted down. Meanwhile, as the main comment said, Russian air defense and electronic warfare is impressive. From 90% to 5%. That makes the weapon OBSOLETE.
The Rusbots are ON FIRE!!! Bahahaha!
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@@FredoTheMan1 hes right tho. Why do you think you never hear about the switchblades, the small diameter bombs and even himars that much anymore.
Really game changed ?.Earlier,Leopard,Abrahams,etc were game changers.
Another overhyped "game changer".
Every new weapon is a "game changer"... but no, that never happens. What Ukraine needs more than anything is more troops, and I don't see how that can happen.
Ukraine needs peace not troops
What they need more is to surrender before they lose their whole country they will never defeat Russia lol it’s like saying Mexico can defeat US lol the worlds gone insane
@igorfilipovic6531 In order to again peace you have to fight a war
Germany media can't not to drull when heard "wunderwaffe". Old habit never die 😆
@@Watashinoakuma8312 There are 3 type of peace available. One without bloodshed (2014). One based on reality (2022 spring). And one based on surrender (when Ukraine is defated).
gamechanger what game is been played
Putins game ,, a STUPIOD game that is costing a lot of lives on both sides
European media is hiding its head under the sand and shouts Ukraine is winning😂
Javelin "Game changer"🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣, M1 Abrams "Game changer"🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣, F16 another "Game changer"🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Really !!! Come on, grow up🤣🤣🤣
Javelin helped a lot at the beginning of the war
Whorthogs killer game changer but will never get, look them up
Sure they are. From Kiev in 3 days it went to Kiev in 300 years.
All of those WERE game changers. You just don't understand the game. You're good at emojis though.
@@johnsmith-ee6tr they probably don't want the world to see them destroyed by the Russians, after the M1 Abrams it would be a new humiliation for the US🤣🤣🤣🤣
Lol... lets list the 'game changer'' weapons shall we:
HIMARS
PATRIOT aa system
Abrams tank
Leopard tanks
Storm Shadow missiles
F-16's...
The game doesnt seem to have changed much...
Everything he received its a game changer but when he loses them from Russian bombing he crys for different weapons, next he'll be asking for submarines and b52 bombers.
Relax Ivan
@@mortyabcrelax Ukraine bot
Death Star next
People have to stop focusing on one thing as a "game changer". The only thing that will really change the game is a continuous flow of aid. One delivery of a few jets changes little. It has to keep coming.
The answer is no. They are only getting a few of these planes so they can’t risk one getting shot down. They won’t be able to use the F-16 as it is intended to be used.
i think those F-16 will be like the Abrams tank... a "fine looking blonde" that everybody wants to "tap" to get a bonus..
There’s more being supplied than they have lost aircraft total. No doubt they will not be used extremely aggressively but numbers aren’t really the problem.
The problem is having enough clear runways to move them around as they’re most at risk on the ground. The F16 needs a much better runway than just about any other jet.
@@peter65zzfdfh I have heard from military experts on YT that they will be stationed in Romania.
@@eddastrohmayer251 Probably a wise move.
@@eddastrohmayer251 : During the early part of the Korean War, North Korean MiG-15 fighters operated from air bases in China. This was before China actually entered the war.
Where they can fight, deeper or useless?🤷♂️
Yes, that's right tell the whole world where the jets will be located, I am sure the Russians won't hit them there...
17 arrived at Lubvusha airbase last week.
Why does the west fool the Ukranians. Such a small amount they are sending is enough to turn the tide? We hear other stories in my country,they are sending a few of the best tanks there are.......LEOPARD 2.......wasn't that the tank that like the Abrams failed on the battlefield more than a year ago?
Challenger 2, also.
If these so called western allies actually cared about their Ukraine, they would have sent F-22, F-35 and eurofighters in large numbers. Ukrainians are just cannon fodder for them.😢
The US needs Ukraine without Ukrainian army. With elongation of the war it happens and also Europe loses its weapons and competitiveness. The remnant part of Ukraine will be owned by BlackRock, serving US interests and Europe will buy US weaponry with giving up its own military industry.
Game is changed so many times until now,i just wonder what is next one?
where are the ME-262's?
They might come never. So its hard to say if they will affect anything.
Frank learned not to say a game changer after his previous predictions abut western Tanks😆
😂😂😂Russians will know exactly where the supplied f16 patking😂😂😂😂
Stop giving money to Ukraine
There is no place in Ukraine that Russia cannot hit. Even if the F-16s are deep underground, Russia can destroy the runways and other infrastructure.
so why didn't they destroy Ukraine's existing airforce during the past 2 years? Troll.
@@occamraiser Troll, Ask General Gerasimov. He is in charge. But just offhand, I would say that lacking nuclear weapons, destroying the entire UAF was not a priority. The Russians have been busy destroying weapons depots, air defenses and electric infrastructure. The Russian AF has been intercepting UAF and hitting them on the ground. The UAF had to get MIG-29s from other countries to replace their losses. The MIG-29 can operate from grass fields because their intakes are protected from foreign object damage and they can be hidden from the Russians. But it is only a matter of time before the UAF is completely destroyed.
@@occamraiser they have destroyed most of it.
A few f-16s will not change the game. That is just a old outdated plane.
Thanks Einstein.
Not as bad as the Russian ones though.
@@evaluateanalysis7974 Much worse in fact
Shows how useless Russia really is ,, only need to send 50 year old F16's to compete
@tilapiadave3234
No, it shows that the US can only send and maintain old outdated planes.
Those f-16s are a game changer indeed, it will change the game from bad to worse for Ukraine
Yeah because having new better weapons is bad in war. Really makes things worse.
Nyet Rusbot!
@@FredoTheMan1 Do American bots get paid more? Tell me please, you clearly are in the business.
Supporting Ukraine’s success is Europe’s best security
How?
The long wait is almost over April 2024 The long wait is almost over May 2024 The long wait is almost over June 2024, July, August, etc.etc
Are you sure it's 2024? lol
Most people aren’t expecting any major changes this year, and perhaps the same next year, so it could be a battle of attrition with the Ukrainians still refusing to concede land.
It would be no business to the press when and where these are stationed. I also agree these will help but not a " Game Changer"
These F16 were built by Fokker, in the Netherlands, not in the US.
So these ones are xtra LGBTQIA, interesting
@@chadclay1643 🤣🤣🤣 I think US F16 also gets the LGBTQ upgrade, too. That is a must in 2024. 🤓 The F16 will identify itself as a F 35. I clearly could see how it debates with the Russian radars and missiles...🤣
No. They’ll help Lindsay Grahms General Dynamics stock value, though.
In the modern battlefield, only Gen 5 fighters will have a chance. You see how many Russian and Ukrainian Gen 4 fighters have been shot down? The F16s will have to evade modern Russian missiles which will not be easy.
F-16 is like going with an iphone in a poor neighbourhood, lol it will be taken very fast
No the balance won't tip in Ukraine's favor. F16's are nice but they are not a gamechanger. Ukraine will have to use them the same as the older russian fighter jets they use now, or they get shot down too.
Nah. They would help. But I think the West is just waiting for Russia to prep for them. That's why they always say "what will come" with at least 1 year before it comes, so Russia could prepare.
The F16s will be key for retaking Crimea back.
@@xantiom Ukros will never annex Crimea, they tried it in 2023 where they were better prepared, and failed misserably. They will never archive the combat strenght of 2023, meanwhile Russia is now much stronger then 2023.
Don't underestimate the Ukrainian soldier.
For over 2 years, they've adapted, analyzed, evolved. Expect the same for their pilots.
@uralprospector he's talking about ukrainians not russians
@@jacksomething1131Ukrainians are immortal
Yeah 600,000 are meeting Bandera.
@@uralprospector I've watched some Russian TV of how children who lost their dads get bicycles as compensation, complete with a thumbs up and smile for the camera with a 74-year-old Russian local politician. Trade your dad for a bicycle.
Soon all Russian orphans will be mobilized on bicycles.
My friend think we know who's going be in some these jets my friend . Ukrainian pilots are flying the mig29s over in ukraine but f16 will be flown mostly by western pilots with zero admission from western goverments
Game changer? In what way? You don't you think Russia see them coming from a long way off? Non- stealth 40 years old aircrafts don't stand a chance. Russia's pilots training hard too for this. West is pathetic.
Yep, also there will be only a rather limited number of them coming in over the next 2-3 months(shortage of properly trained Ukrainian pilots being just one of the reasons) and there are no useful and safe airfield to launch them from in central or southern Ukraine, so most likely they will have to be based in Romania. This is very far from a game-changer, but Kiev and their PR campaign will style each new supplied western weapon in turn as a Wunderwaffe.
Cope more putinbot
@@sturmx96 it's all over in plain site. I'm not pro one or the other. Both are bad and evil. But Russia's superiority is very obvious. They are pioneering modern warfare, they're making progress every weeks, Ukraine has been unable to take back a single territory.
Imagine the pressure to a Ukrainian Pilot 🇺🇦 They trained, they have the funding, they have the F16. Thay can't screw this up
The world is watching
0:08 Kiev says 'game changer'. They also called Javelin, Bayraktar, HIMARS, NLAW, Switchblade, ATACMS and Patriot for game changers, but the game has not changed. They need many, many of F-16s, pilots to fly them, crews for maintenance, good armament - which they do not have/get.
The game changed many times, each one halted a Russian advance or made them withdraw supplies further back into Russia. If the game hadn’t changed there would be no more Ukraine. Just still existing against what was supposed to be the 2nd best military in the world is proof.
@@peter65zzfdfh The game changes when the Ukrainians can throw out the Russians, not when the Ukrainians are retreating.
You forgot Leopard, Abrams, and Challenger 2s.
@@peter65zzfdfh It was not because of these weapons per se; it was the result of overall strategy, Russian miscalculations, etc. Almost all of these systems (with the possible exception of the Javelin, which really seems to have done a great job) have substitutes, or the Russians have an equivalent, often a better equivalent. Having many different types of "Game changer " weapons in small numbers are not what wins large-scale modern wars; if they were, Germany would have won ww2 easily.
"Game changer" is just a buzz word. Reality is all these western weapons collectively matter hugely and are responsible along with amazing Ukrainian determination.
Even the counteroffensive was a game changer 😂😂😂
Problem with Ukraine and it's supporters is that they are very mouthful and no secrets
This news full of lies reality is bitter
More scrap metal
A game changer again? I thought the Leopards 2 were the game changer. 😅
So the F-16 think the S-500 and S-400 SAMs are all dead??
@lingth S-400? The system that was destroyed by 20+ years old rockets?
@@Lovi89ah geez! The shovels are obsolete!
@@Lovi89no anti air system has 100% success rate
even patriot battery only intercepted 1 scud during the 1991 gulf war
s400 being used az ground artillery
Ukraine defeated definately.Beacuse it is wrong aide.
A 50year old plane up against Russia and it's brand new jets, it's formidable air defence, seriously stop this foolish war today save thousands of lives tomorrow
I agree with your firststatement but AIR Defense? It's almost useless.
😂. Formidable. What???? Russia can't even defeat a country of farmers with many billions of oil revenue and a placid population. 😂.
50 years old plane with latest long range weaponary.
Brand new jets? Yes please stop this foolish war. Write to your country's Russian ambassador and demand he get his Government to withdraw immediately.
« Brand new jets »😂😂😂
All date back to the Soviet times. The Su-27 which gave birth to the planes Russia use today first flew in 1977!
The Tu-22 in the 60s!
One simple question, if F16 can beat Russian, why do we need F22 and F35?
Yes....people often overlook that the F16 was introduced in the 1970s and even then, it wasn't the top line fighter (that was the twin-engine F15); the F16 was the cheaper, more mass-production-oriented fighter. And, of course, much has changed in the decades since then. Russia does not have a lot of its new generation fighters as a percentage of its air force, but they vastly outnumber the amount of (old, worn-out) F16s promised to Ukraine.
to beat China.China is the biggest challenge to USA, not Russia.
Exactly Ukraine should buy F35 if they want to gain territory.
in 1999, an F-16CG was shot down over Serbia. It was downed by an S-125 which is a soviet anti air missile designed in the 50s and introduced in 1961
@@Hyper584k Stop selecting your preferential enemy and deal with the one right infront of you---if you can't handle the kremlin in Europe how can you survive an expeditionary engagement against China...???
I like the key word game changer
Underline it ❤😂
cliche
Unless that lady forgot, her whole country is at war! Wtf
If you can't see "a major break through" Frank that makes it a certainty as your almost always wrong.
Letting Russia know exactly when and what supplies are being given to Ukraine seems like a bad idea.
If F16 puts pressure on russian supply lines similar to what HIMARS did, then they will be a net positive for Ukraine.
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HIMARS haven’t been doing much TBH
Our previous Wunderwaffe!
Lol. Just lol.
Shouldn't you be baking cookies or something? Or watching reruns of the Paris Olympics opening ceremony while tossing your salad?
Another game changer? 😂😂
I support Ukraine, but I don't think the F16 jets (on their own) will make much difference.
6 F-16s can you say game changer!
10 and that's just the first batch
@@ricardosmythe2548 “F-16 fighter jets arrive in Ukraine but may not tip advantage against Russia”
- Washington Post already making articles about it.
The only game changer in this conflict so far was the FPV drone
@@WorldlyBudget everything gifted to Ukraine along with training and assistance building military structure since 2014 has been game changing. The west has transformed Ukraine from a state that could put up no resistance what so ever when Crimea was taken in 2014 to one that has forced what was thought of as the 2nd most capable armed forces on earth to crawl forward making small gains while taking huge losses. Regardless of how this conflict pans out Russia has lost.
@ricardosmythe2548 My bad 10 F-16s a game changer just like the M-1 tanks.
@@WorldlyBudgetI agree, it will not tip. At least not from Day one.
But there is a shitload of poor and wrong information on RUclips. And a lot of commenters, who are commenting obviously without knowing facts.
And Even Washington Post hasnt a clue on the actual number of jets nor the training standard of the pilots and technicians.
As an Ukraine supporter I don’t want to know where the F-16 will be based! And so don’t you!
Sick of constant excuses ! Soldiers barely holding the line, people are not endless
Surely its artificial delays. I wonder who pulling the strings and playing dodgy game here
Not really an excuse, it takes decades to build an airforce, it takes years of training to train pilots, mechanics and maintenance crews, the most advance equipment will not be effective under untrained soldiers.
@@Meeko2689 the thing is .. Ukraine sent best pilots who are already was capable to fly. Two years later they are already trained to new gear and softwear . Ready for mission
Military Industrial Complex
The MIC wallet 😂😀😅
Half of Ukraine's army defected to Hungary.
As of 6:01 those are good points that most people including myself may not have thought of. But then it seems like there's no point to the F16s
When 6 pilots are currently ready to fly F16's the answer is no
11.
I've been hearing about the "imminent" arrival of F-16s for nearly 6 months.
Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. How long have we been hearing something similar.
It is a war that never ends... until one side run out of men.
"Game changer"
"Synergies"
Please stop with the abuse of those words
Cope more putinbot
F-16s are very old tech. They’re solid performers, but they can’t defeat Russias air defense.
Yeah sure, air defenses like the S-400 that keeps destroying itself 🤣🤣🤣
Good to see the Dutch stepping up !
Goin green and taxing the cow farts. Well China will be interested in green energy, EVs 🤣
No. The answer is no. Seriously this is war and not video game.