I would like to see say 6 different face reconstruction specialists given the same skull to do their work then show us the six finished products just to see how different or the same they look
They should x-ray a living person, 3d print the skull and then set them to task. They could then compare to a real living person not just an old photo.
They've done it on skulls of people and matched them up with real pictures of the person before they were deceased, thousands of times. That's how they figured out the process
I guess, but why not do it with the skull of a currently living person? I'd totally volunteer. I'd love to see how accurate someone can get to my face.
I agree with you 100% And I don’t mean to be one of those people to nit-pick at everything But I just wanted to, politely, let you know that the sculptor is a woman.
@@Jsin876 The commenter wasn't talking about the artist, they were referring to the man who was explaining the signs of facial trauma to the skull. He calls her a patient quite a bit.
Interesting comment, Natasha. I am a British physician - "Patients" are deemed to be those still amongst the living in the UK (& immediately after death). Those that have an historical narrative are indicated by their deceased status - so it is perhaps a (cultural) misnomer in identifying (& qualifying) the Craniofacial Surgical Reconstructionist as a, "real doc..." per se.... :)
I did this in my anatomy labs all the time. Linking bone structures with your own body is a great way to help with memorization and also understanding of how the body is put together.
Has there ever been a challenge for these face reconstruction specialists to flesh out a skull that has been reconstructed from a scan of a living person, so that the reconstruction could be seen side by side with the actual person? If not, I do think it is a fair challenge, and one I would like to see.
Don't they use this to identify murder victims? And I know that when a face transplant happens the person will still look a lot more like themselves than their donors, so the skull is really important for the face.
That would be EXTREMELY cool and fascinating. They could do their thing up on stage, then their model walks out.....it would be perfect for a Discovery Channel special
rosenvitae So but first it would involve taking their skull, which is really hard to do Or you're saying to compare the model to the actual person (dead)
Have you ever considered an apprenticeship program? I would LOVE to do this for a living. I have a natural artistic talent and would find this work incredibly satisfying.
What unfortunate health these people endured. And recently in a relative sense; some of their lives almost overlapped with those of my own parents. Makes me feel mighty lucky to have been born when I was. I'll bet they weren't inclined to whinge and complain any more than people are today. The day to day violence and poverty of life in late 19th century NYC must've been horrible.
@@tylersanders6703 If you look at people in medieval Europe living in monasteries and nunneries (ie people who were well cared for in old age, were unlikely to die in childbirth/war, and had all necessities provided for them throughout life) they regularly lived to their 80s or even 90s. "Average" life expectancy is also skewed by the amount of people who died in childhood. It's just unfortunate for our ancestors that they lived in a time where death via trauma and now-treatable illness was a heck of a lot more common, and social care was less likely. But it's not like a 40 year old in the 1500s would be considered as old as an 80 year old now.
I am very interested in this field. Thank you for this fascinating video. I want to become a 3d modeler hoping to find a background in forensic anthropology and medical illustration.
what is with this guy saying AH after each sentance? Its annoying If they are going to explain details on the skull why not find someone with a better command of the english language!
boy have they come a long way with facial reconstruction since the filming of this clip. I watched a class reconstruct faces with clay, and their's looked more like actual faces rather than a skull dressed in a clay coat.
I'd like to see someone do a facial reconstruction, and then have an actual picture displayed of the person to see how accurate it is. It seems there would be a lot of guess work around the lips and eyes.
What I want to see is a reconstruction that can be compared to a photograph of the person in question. The sculptor, of course, must not be allowed to see this. There are so many possible variations in the soft tissues that the skull is no guide at all.
There were no photographs of this person. This is the whole point of Forensic Sculpture. Even in our modern times, if a skull is found, it falls to the Forensic Sculptor to bring the features of the dead to life. The skull IS, in fact, the only guide to facial reconstruction. It is the same in Taxidermy. There are given and known points on the skull, where muscles attach; where glands are contained. There are known depths for the muscle tissue, fascia, and skin. All this is gleaned form the skull, and from the research one puts into the learning and mastering of this field of sculpture. Anatomical knowledge is key to success. And please believe me when I tell you, it is SO MUCH easier to sculpt when you are not trying to explain what it is you are doing! ;)
John Bellucci I hate to be rude but you're just stating the obvious. What I would like to see is a facial reconstruction from a skull where the identity of the person is known and where photographs do exist. But of course this information must not be known to the person making the reconstruction. In other words a "bllind" experiment. But one that can actually be checked. Reconstructing historical figures is simple. Either no one really knows what they actually looked like (so the reconstructor can pretty much come up with anything) or we know pretty accurately what they looked like e.g. Henry VIII (so the reconstructor can just make sure the sculpture matches). I'm well aware of the theory but so far I've seen nothing that can really be verified. I'm suspicious of the fact that all of these reconstructions seem to bear a strange resemblance to each other.
mikelheron20 I've noticed it twice so far two different reconstructions pieces How much that the the Head looks like the sculpture Also where the remains were found and the time period in which these ppl lived and died It is denial to say they were laborers and maids Rather than which more likely slaves and prostitutes
Brilliant video indeed, thank you. I'm and old timer now and I think I may have missed my vocation in life. I''m a sculptor and have been sculpting the human form, and things equestrian, since I was four. Human anatomy has interested me since an early age, (I have 8 anatomy books, 2 medical, 1 for my profession and the rest art) but due to circumstances of life, which John Lennon referred to in a song written for his son Sean, "Life occurs between the plans you make," it was not to be. I learned anatomy when training to be an orthotic/prosthetic technician and have used it to improve my works, in terms of sculpting and drawing. Love to do a course on this if I could get a sponsor.
Thank you so much for this video! I’m going to be attending Edinboro University in the fall of 2020 with a major in Forensic Anthropology and a dual minor in Forensic Archaeology and Bio Forensics and this video makes me even more excited than I already am! I cannot wait to do this and so much more!
Wow your majors seem to be very interesting, I would love to study the same! Unfortunately in Spain we don't have that, but I'm a biology major and I choose to do my final thesis about this subject 🥰 I hope you are doing well and enjoying your studies so much!
Seeing this now makes me want to ask, how did it go? Considering well, what happened globally in 2020. I also began my studies in 2020 with Anthropology and Psychology and COVID ate up like 1&a half year. Had 0 practical work for that duration
how do they test the accuracy of this process? it'll be more credible to me if for example, the artist is given a skull of someone and in the end they will show what the person actually looks like and compare it to the reconstruction... of course the artist must have no idea what that person looks like...
let me answer: there is no accuracy in this technique. besides in this case, this maam has no habilty at all. the result does not look like a credible realistic person or creature(at least). looks like a doll, an ugly doll
I think people who are sculptors would be more successful if they work in this field the face would be more realistic take Madam Tusaude's work she studied anatomy and made many realistic faces but she did see them first. But an artist would need more information.
Oscar Martinez check out the project at the new york academy of art and then answer again. your comment is disrespectful and ignorant, to say the very least
Very informative and interesting. One suggestion: try not to smooth the faces that much and try adding wrinkles and skin texture (in relation to skin directionality, distribution of facial fat in woman and man face in relation to the age etc) otherwise the face looks artificial. Usually your sculpts look better before the final stage (only the old black male is an exception).
wow, this is 6 years old, but I admire some rando in the comments trying to lecture a professional on how to do her job. Also, I'm in my 50s, and I don't have any visible wrinkles when my face is at rest - for forensic purposes, I'd argue it's better to be conservative with texturing/wrinkles, because it could distort someone's appearance more than their perhaps appearing a little bit younger. Personally, I thought they did a good job of the ageing, although I agree the final texture is a little plasticky - by now, finishing techniques might be a little more refined.
Ten reconstruction specialist should be given 10 similar copied skulls with jaw bone so we can see if what they do is accurate enough. They should be done in different places where the specialist does not know each other.
Having worked as an archaeologist at the AAC excavation I will forever appreciate the experience as a scientist but also as a human being. The facial reconstruction shown in this amazing video helps to tell the untold story of people who would otherwise be forgotten. Thank you NYSM. I will always treasure the opportunity to have played a tiny role in people of the Albany Almshouse story.
Oh gawd, their delivery is so banal, yet such a cool subject. For comparison check out the brilliant (& gorgeous) twins Adris & Alfons Kenis (pretty sure names are correct…) who are in the same field but also use emotion, humour & art as tools to produce their ancients humans & hominins.
🌹🌹🌹Really very interesting and precisely done. Absolutely. I am very fond of the scientific explanations. A reconstruction also moving. We understand the life of the person. Many elements were talking. To my opinion, the nose was the most difficult part with the eyes. But the work done was very professional 👍🏻 I also loved to see the respect people all had for the human being in front of them. 🙏🏻🌹🌹🌹
hahaha... when I touched the top of my skull to feel if there was any thickness, I can honestly tell you that there is just skin there. Like no more than 1mm.
Ah, but by touching the top of one's head, stemingleo, if you depress the area palpated, you will feel the thin musculature - Epcranius - but specifically, the Galea- Aponeurosis, & under the skin, it is white in colour; if you place the palm of your hand over the Cranium, & slide your hand from front to back, you will notice a degree of motility. That is why, at Postmortem, when the Pathologist/technician requires access to the Cranium itself (& ultimately, the brain), an incision at the posterior - from ear to ear, makes pulling the whole face forward much easier: the connective tissue is remarkably thin.
Loved this, the only thing that bugged me a bit was all of the final reconstructions looked like they were wearing makeup.... if you are already guessing about hair color and style, and eye color, why not go the extra mile and give them some signs of working outside.. freckles, sunspots, darker complexions on the places where the sun naturally would hit.. it’s really interesting work, but to me the devil is in the detail, and that’s where they truely come to life....
She appears worn and sad. She didn't deserve any of the physical pain she endured. Great job on this face. It shocked me she died in 1915 as my mother was born in 1917.
Interesting video. It woul also appear that choosing the gradient of skin color is also very subjective. I find it interesting that the "dock worker" was portrayed as 'very pitch black oily skinned'; whereas the other minority specifimens were not shown as quite as dark. Colorism abounds........
Amazing work. Was captivated to see the whole process and all the expertees. This is my dream job. I worked in Archaeology as an Illustrator for 14 year. My work often involved human remains in the field work. Unfortunately, I didn't get the opportunity to work in this capacity, which I feel I would have thoroughly enjoyed! Loved it!
To even off large surface areas when I sculpt, I use a Brayer or roller. I have several sizes to choose from for different sized areas, as well as being made from different materials ... rubber, wood, and plastic.
She looks like she was one tough, determined individual. Someone who I would definitely want on my side. This was fascinating and answered a lot of questions I have had about how they go about identifying a person's age, body structure, what sort of employment they might have had and of course their facial features.
Somehow rhey have got a hold of my face and body and has s- nose now whole body d nose now whole body N ankle to ankle v in the back now whole body Tune like you are tuning a radioworlds wiring
Looking at the models at the end I started to think. You may have gotten the facial features right but they may not be recognizable to someone who actually knew them. The reason being maybe the hair style was wrong, had a beard or not, mustache etc. Also There was room for your own artistic influance. Still very wonderful work.
We watch every painstaking part of this and you _skip_ the texturing??? REALLY??? Why on _earth_ would you skip one of the key parts of finishing the reconstruction?? ..../facepalm....
Excellent video. I forwarded the video to the University of Dundee and to Dr. Sue Black OBE and Dr. Xanthe Mallett because of their work with forensic anthropology and historic facial reconstructions.
the sex of the skull can be determined by it´s features. the most easy way to do taht is to feel the top of the skull, most men have some sort of tumult on the top of their skull while most women have it falttened
After such a hard life I can't help but wonder if the lady of the first reconstruction might enjoy the fact that her face will become a little bit famous and be seen by thousands of people in a museum.
Fascinating. This was not what I was expecting when clicking on, but as a nurse, I enjoyed this seminar. Sad to think your model today was possibly someones Grandmother. Also, I thank-you for bringing those others forward for recognition.
Nope. The structure of the skull determines your facial appearance. This is nothing new. It's not like they guessing and we haven't had thousands of years worth of human medical discoveries and progression, but yeah, a scam 🤦🏻♂
I have done some facial reconstruction. One thing that was always true with other reconstructionists is that they tend to include a similar "look" to the final product that is more similar to their own facial construction. As a result, their work is strangely "similar" as if each individual had the same mother or father. As in this video, and other people's work I have seen, there tends to be a strange familiar appearance to clearly different people and ethnic backgrounds. Following muscle locations and tissue thickness markers are fine as a rudimentary beginning, however, the "artist" must separate their vision from themselves so as NOT to include their unintentional inclusion of their own self. Also, these markers must not be misconstrued as factual which would ignore how people actually look in life.
This is the most fascinating program I have watched on RUclips ..the way you talked the way all through doing the lady was great it is nice to see the way it done and have it explained ..I would have loved to have done this sort of thing myself when I was younger ..life just passes by so fast..but I do still like learning new things and this was amazing to watch a person appear before your eyes..I do hope that she did have some nice times and her life was not always bad..But it is amazing to see life from the past become real and I am sure all the children who go to the museum will remember them more because they are looking into their faces..You do a very important job .
thank you for the video. the experts are great. gosh, i feel so bad for the people who past on. rest in perfect peace. they may have had a hard life on this Earth, however, they will have the glory in heaven.
Good luck to the people who do this in 2000 years to reconstruct the faces of people in LA and NY, because this will NEVER be the faces people who knew them will know. It will only be faces pre-surgery, pre-fillers, pre-botox,... etc ...
I didn't think this is very reliable, It is only the representation of the Artist. No creó qué ésto sea muy fiable, Sólo es la representacion del Artista.
We need more of this educational and comprehensible learning...I mean this is what I bring to the table...ALOT! THANK YOU SO MUCH TO EVERYONES SACRIFICES TO BRING THIS KNOWLEDGE TO US, THANK YOU FROM THE BOTTOM OF OUR HEARTS!!
This was absolutely fascinating! I thoroughly enjoyed this. I found myself feeling around my own head and neck as the muscles were described. lol My heart goes out to these people, I don't envy the life they had and I hope they found peace in death.
I don't Think this works at all. When i get the Money, I will make a 3d print of my skull, and send it in, without them knowing how i look. I think they would get the same result by having the face made over a rock.
Skulls cannot determine the actual appearance. I've seen even the most accurate ones when compared with photos were quite off not very similar. Eyes size shape, nose shape, chin shape cannot be determined. Men with cleft chin have larger mentalis muscles and denser chin. Also, the Europeans, Middle easterns, and South asians have exact same caucasoid skull yet have slight distinctive features from one another so even race cannot be accurately determined.
I would like to see say 6 different face reconstruction specialists given the same skull to do their work then show us the six finished products just to see how different or the same they look
This is a very good idea! 👍
Yes thatd be very interesting to see.
SHELIAH HIPPS 3D print
They should x-ray a living person, 3d print the skull and then set them to task.
@@sheliah783 these are all replica's they are working with.
They should x-ray a living person, 3d print the skull and then set them to task.
They could then compare to a real living person not just an old photo.
They've done it on skulls of people and matched them up with real pictures of the person before they were deceased, thousands of times. That's how they figured out the process
they've done this
@@CurtisD01 no they haven't
I guess, but why not do it with the skull of a currently living person? I'd totally volunteer. I'd love to see how accurate someone can get to my face.
That’s a great idea
"Clearly there is indication of some frontal injury on this patient" ... He called the scull a PATIENT.That's how you know that he is a real doc
I agree with you 100%
And I don’t mean to be one of those people to nit-pick at everything
But I just wanted to, politely, let you know that the sculptor is a woman.
@@Jsin876 The commenter wasn't talking about the artist, they were referring to the man who was explaining the signs of facial trauma to the skull. He calls her a patient quite a bit.
Interesting comment, Natasha. I am a British physician - "Patients" are deemed to be those still amongst the living in the UK (& immediately after death). Those that have an historical narrative are indicated by their deceased status - so it is perhaps a (cultural) misnomer in identifying (& qualifying) the Craniofacial Surgical Reconstructionist as a, "real doc..." per se.... :)
Scull
@@andrewtongue7084I think you are THE British physician ever
Am I the only one who was poking their face while watching this to feel for the different facial structures that she was pointing out? Lol.
HA! I do the same thing when I see someone reconstructing a face!
Nope lmao I was rubbing all over my face
no I did it too!!
i touched my face also lol.
I did this in my anatomy labs all the time. Linking bone structures with your own body is a great way to help with memorization and also understanding of how the body is put together.
Has there ever been a challenge for these face reconstruction specialists to flesh out a skull that has been reconstructed from a scan of a living person, so that the reconstruction could be seen side by side with the actual person? If not, I do think it is a fair challenge, and one I would like to see.
Don't they use this to identify murder victims? And I know that when a face transplant happens the person will still look a lot more like themselves than their donors, so the skull is really important for the face.
That would be EXTREMELY cool and fascinating. They could do their thing up on stage, then their model walks out.....it would be perfect for a Discovery Channel special
I was thinking this very thing actually, it'd be a good way to determine how accurate it is.
rosenvitae So but first it would involve taking their skull, which is really hard to do
Or you're saying to compare the model to the actual person (dead)
It has been done to identify murder victims so we know it is pretty accurate
This is just fascinating. I've often wondered if people who do this for a while can "see" what the person looks like just by seeing their skull.
That’s a thought 🤔 interesting
I really wanna do this with my Halloween skull and see what atrocity I make
That sounds like a really fun educational art project for sculptors
Have you ever considered an apprenticeship program? I would LOVE to do this for a living. I have a natural artistic talent and would find this work incredibly satisfying.
What unfortunate health these people endured. And recently in a relative sense; some of their lives almost overlapped with those of my own parents. Makes me feel mighty lucky to have been born when I was. I'll bet they weren't inclined to whinge and complain any more than people are today. The day to day violence and poverty of life in late 19th century NYC must've been horrible.
At least we have vaccines now.
looks like handsome squidward
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@@laurenstaab5679 wtf
@@laurenstaab5679 but you haven't seen her face
Duh thats why theres a fucking dent in the head
Omg I died.
This was very interesting but sad. They all seamed to have died in horrible ways.
Catgirl The majority of people during ancient times died horrible deaths and typically unheard of to live to age 40
@@CaptchaNeon Myth. People lived almost as old as they do now.
@@dylanmonstrum1538 lol no they did not.
@@tylersanders6703 They lived the exact same average life-span if they were capable of living under the same ideal conditions.
@@tylersanders6703 If you look at people in medieval Europe living in monasteries and nunneries (ie people who were well cared for in old age, were unlikely to die in childbirth/war, and had all necessities provided for them throughout life) they regularly lived to their 80s or even 90s. "Average" life expectancy is also skewed by the amount of people who died in childhood. It's just unfortunate for our ancestors that they lived in a time where death via trauma and now-treatable illness was a heck of a lot more common, and social care was less likely. But it's not like a 40 year old in the 1500s would be considered as old as an 80 year old now.
Absolutely incredible. I am a sculptor, and have often wanted to do forensic reconstruction. Thank you.
Who would literally name their child gay marlin
I am very interested in this field. Thank you for this fascinating video. I want to become a 3d modeler hoping to find a background in forensic anthropology and medical illustration.
what is with this guy saying AH after each sentance? Its annoying If they are going to explain details on the skull why not find someone with a better command of the english language!
Gianna thank you! it’s so distracting from what he’s actually talking about. i almost wanted to skip past it ugh!
Cool. You honor their passing by immortalizing their forgotten identity.
Remarkable! Gay Malin is a master at her work. If I tried that it would come out looking like a smiley face.
cool work, the reconstructed lady head looks like Glenn Close lol
Yeah.... my thoughts exactly. That was exactly who came to mind.
Omg yes!
boy have they come a long way with facial reconstruction since the filming of this clip. I watched a class reconstruct faces with clay, and their's looked more like actual faces rather than a skull dressed in a clay coat.
emmestein lol. I’m pretty sure I just watched the same one.
From The Fifth Estate?
@@unlikelysurprised9669 Correct. What did you think?
Only watched two videos of face reconstruction and it’s already all over my feed
I'd like to see someone do a facial reconstruction, and then have an actual picture displayed of the person to see how accurate it is. It seems there would be a lot of guess work around the lips and eyes.
Wonderful work, Gay. This poor woman looks tired, and almost sad ... a reflection of her tough life. Well done sculpture and tutorial!
Don't You dare call Her that! 😅
What I want to see is a reconstruction that can be compared to a photograph of the person in question. The sculptor, of course, must not be allowed to see this. There are so many possible variations in the soft tissues that the skull is no guide at all.
There were no photographs of this person. This is the whole point of Forensic Sculpture. Even in our modern times, if a skull is found, it falls to the Forensic Sculptor to bring the features of the dead to life. The skull IS, in fact, the only guide to facial reconstruction. It is the same in Taxidermy. There are given and known points on the skull, where muscles attach; where glands are contained. There are known depths for the muscle tissue, fascia, and skin. All this is gleaned form the skull, and from the research one puts into the learning and mastering of this field of sculpture. Anatomical knowledge is key to success. And please believe me when I tell you, it is SO MUCH easier to sculpt when you are not trying to explain what it is you are doing! ;)
John Bellucci I hate to be rude but you're just stating the obvious. What I would like to see is a facial reconstruction from a skull where the identity of the person is known and where photographs do exist. But of course this information must not be known to the person making the reconstruction. In other words a "bllind" experiment. But one that can actually be checked. Reconstructing historical figures is simple. Either no one really knows what they actually looked like (so the reconstructor can pretty much come up with anything) or we know pretty accurately what they looked like e.g. Henry VIII (so the reconstructor can just make sure the sculpture matches). I'm well aware of the theory but so far I've seen nothing that can really be verified. I'm suspicious of the fact that all of these reconstructions seem to bear a strange resemblance to each other.
+Parthalam Lancer If it's not exact it's not a science.
mikelheron20 it's more like art, not science.
mikelheron20
I've noticed it twice so far two different reconstructions pieces
How much that the the
Head looks like the sculpture
Also where the remains were found and the time period in which these ppl lived and died
It is denial to say they were laborers and maids
Rather than which more likely slaves and prostitutes
I would like to see a professional like this try to reconstruct the “face” of a toy skull
31:54 those lips look like kylie Jenner lips 😂
Police men: the victim is burned so badly that theyre unrecoglizable, there is no way to know who he is
Forensic artists: UMMM CHILD i dont think soo
Brilliant video indeed, thank you. I'm and old timer now and I think I may have missed my vocation in life. I''m a sculptor and have been sculpting the human form, and things equestrian, since I was four. Human anatomy has interested me since an early age, (I have 8 anatomy books, 2 medical, 1 for my profession and the rest art) but due to circumstances of life, which John Lennon referred to in a song written for his son Sean, "Life occurs between the plans you make," it was not to be. I learned anatomy when training to be an orthotic/prosthetic technician and have used it to improve my works, in terms of sculpting and drawing. Love to do a course on this if I could get a sponsor.
Thank you so much for this video! I’m going to be attending Edinboro University in the fall of 2020 with a major in Forensic Anthropology and a dual minor in Forensic Archaeology and Bio Forensics and this video makes me even more excited than I already am! I cannot wait to do this and so much more!
Wow your majors seem to be very interesting, I would love to study the same! Unfortunately in Spain we don't have that, but I'm a biology major and I choose to do my final thesis about this subject 🥰
I hope you are doing well and enjoying your studies so much!
Seeing this now makes me want to ask, how did it go? Considering well, what happened globally in 2020. I also began my studies in 2020 with Anthropology and Psychology and COVID ate up like 1&a half year. Had 0 practical work for that duration
how do they test the accuracy of this process? it'll be more credible to me if for example, the artist is given a skull of someone and in the end they will show what the person actually looks like and compare it to the reconstruction... of course the artist must have no idea what that person looks like...
let me answer: there is no accuracy in this technique. besides in this case, this maam has no habilty at all. the result does not look like a credible realistic person or creature(at least). looks like a doll, an ugly doll
I think people who are sculptors would be more successful if they work in this field the face would be more realistic take Madam Tusaude's work she studied anatomy and made many realistic faces but she did see them first.
But an artist would need more information.
It has been known to help identify unknown murder victims. Check out the Deanna Lee Criswell murder.
Oscar Martinez check out the project at the new york academy of art and then answer again. your comment is disrespectful and ignorant, to say the very least
Very informative and interesting. One suggestion: try not to smooth the faces that much and try adding wrinkles and skin texture (in relation to skin directionality, distribution of facial fat in woman and man face in relation to the age etc) otherwise the face looks artificial. Usually your sculpts look better before the final stage (only the old black male is an exception).
wow, this is 6 years old, but I admire some rando in the comments trying to lecture a professional on how to do her job. Also, I'm in my 50s, and I don't have any visible wrinkles when my face is at rest - for forensic purposes, I'd argue it's better to be conservative with texturing/wrinkles, because it could distort someone's appearance more than their perhaps appearing a little bit younger. Personally, I thought they did a good job of the ageing, although I agree the final texture is a little plasticky - by now, finishing techniques might be a little more refined.
I really liked how she put all those details in the video so you really know how to do the face reconstruction
So glad that there is such talented people to be able to bring skulls to life. Awesome job 👏 👍 🙌 👌
Ten reconstruction specialist should be given 10 similar copied skulls with jaw bone so we can see if what they do is accurate enough. They should be done in different places where the specialist does not know each other.
Having worked as an archaeologist at the AAC excavation I will forever appreciate the experience as a scientist but also as a human being. The facial reconstruction shown in this amazing video helps to tell the untold story of people who would otherwise be forgotten. Thank you NYSM. I will always treasure the opportunity to have played a tiny role in people of the Albany Almshouse story.
She looks like Glenn Close.
Very strong androgynous features
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When I was a kid I got fascinated with how this was done. Now it’s more digital. What a talent to be able to to do this.
Oh gawd, their delivery is so banal, yet such a cool subject. For comparison check out the brilliant (& gorgeous) twins Adris & Alfons Kenis (pretty sure names are correct…) who are in the same field but also use emotion, humour & art as tools to produce their ancients humans & hominins.
So we can assume she had a fatal injury on the center-right front area of her skull? How do you think she died?
Remarkable, simply remarkable. The distance forensic science, and art, have traveled of late are indeed impressive. Well done all of you.
the ancient Natufians of the levant were doing that 15,000 year ago
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plastered_human_skulls
Who do they all look like gigachad
Does this depth marker make my chin look fat?
🌹🌹🌹Really very interesting and precisely done. Absolutely.
I am very fond of the scientific explanations.
A reconstruction also moving. We understand the life of the person. Many elements were talking.
To my opinion, the nose was the most difficult part with the eyes. But the work done was very professional 👍🏻
I also loved to see the respect people all had for the human being in front of them. 🙏🏻🌹🌹🌹
hahaha... when I touched the top of my skull to feel if there was any thickness, I can honestly tell you that there is just skin there. Like no more than 1mm.
Ah, but by touching the top of one's head, stemingleo, if you depress the area palpated, you will feel the thin musculature - Epcranius - but specifically, the Galea- Aponeurosis, & under the skin, it is white in colour; if you place the palm of your hand over the Cranium, & slide your hand from front to back, you will notice a degree of motility. That is why, at Postmortem, when the Pathologist/technician requires access to the Cranium itself (& ultimately, the brain), an incision at the posterior - from ear to ear, makes pulling the whole face forward much easier: the connective tissue is remarkably thin.
I'm only here because my teacher assigned me this video is too long and boring srry
Loved this, the only thing that bugged me a bit was all of the final reconstructions looked like they were wearing makeup.... if you are already guessing about hair color and style, and eye color, why not go the extra mile and give them some signs of working outside.. freckles, sunspots, darker complexions on the places where the sun naturally would hit..
it’s really interesting work, but to me the devil is in the detail, and that’s where they truely come to life....
She appears worn and sad. She didn't deserve any of the physical pain she endured. Great job on this face. It shocked me she died in 1915 as my mother was born in 1917.
Interesting video. It woul also appear that choosing the gradient of skin color is also very subjective. I find it interesting that the "dock worker" was portrayed as 'very pitch black oily skinned'; whereas the other minority specifimens were not shown as quite as dark. Colorism abounds........
Trojanette83 you shouldn’t blame her she prob doesn’t know how to paint black people
Wow no wonder most of them died before 50 with all the problems they had at the time.
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THANKYOU so much for your demonstration. I've often wondered how this technique was achieved. I find this extremely interesting.
40:13 she looks like she saw something she didn’t want to
"....dafuq?"
A most interesting video. Thanks.
The main reconstruction looks a bit like the alien male in the sci-fi film _Prometheus_ .
Amazing work. Was captivated to see the whole process and all the expertees. This is my dream job. I worked in Archaeology as an Illustrator for 14 year. My work often involved human remains in the field work. Unfortunately, I didn't get the opportunity to work in this capacity, which I feel I would have thoroughly enjoyed! Loved it!
To even off large surface areas when I sculpt, I use a Brayer or roller. I have several sizes to choose from for different sized areas, as well as being made from different materials ... rubber, wood, and plastic.
Damn she be chewing a pack of gum every day 1:00:03
She looks like she was one tough, determined individual. Someone who I would definitely want on my side. This was fascinating and answered a lot of questions I have had about how they go about identifying a person's age, body structure, what sort of employment they might have had and of course their facial features.
Somehow rhey have got a hold of my face and body and has
s- nose now whole body
d nose now whole body
N ankle to ankle v in the back now whole body
Tune like you are tuning a radioworlds wiring
This was fascinating. I wish we had names to go with these faces. Thanks for posting this!
Looking at the models at the end I started to think. You may have gotten the facial features right but they may not be recognizable to someone who actually knew them. The reason being maybe the hair style was wrong, had a beard or not, mustache etc. Also There was room for your own artistic influance. Still very wonderful work.
We watch every painstaking part of this and you _skip_ the texturing??? REALLY??? Why on _earth_ would you skip one of the key parts of finishing the reconstruction?? ..../facepalm....
Fascinating and sad that we don't know these people's names... they had hard lives. Much as I love history, I'm very glad to not have lived back then.
It’s Glen Close’s great grandma ! 😮
whoops, looks like I wasn't the only one to think something like thta
Thank you for uploading this great video. There is a great deal of education about human anatomy & the art of sculpture in it.
Excellent video. I forwarded the video to the University of Dundee and to Dr. Sue Black OBE and Dr. Xanthe Mallett because of their work with forensic anthropology and historic facial reconstructions.
Am I the only one who felt like crying listening to the end of this as they read through the descriptions of the bodies they researched?
Nope, they died in horrible ways, and they look so... Normal.
the sex of the skull can be determined by it´s features. the most easy way to do taht is to feel the top of the skull, most men have some sort of tumult on the top of their skull while most women have it falttened
After such a hard life I can't help but wonder if the lady of the first reconstruction might enjoy the fact that her face will become a little bit famous and be seen by thousands of people in a museum.
These people need to learn their lines before they get filmed.
How they know if the skull is a woman or man, if they inly found a skull, not complete skeleton?
Very interesting! Thank you!! ...And, yes, I was poking my face too. lol
If she died Approx. 1915, how is that 300 years ago as the description stated?
Very interesting. Informitive and well presented
the final turn table of the professors is creepy ... the overall video is more than excellent ! such an amazing tutorial!
This was fascinating and very detailed. Thanks for making it.
All of these people hard lives.
who names their kid "gay"
nuni They must've been a mistake.
As an artist I have always wondered how this was done. The desire to learn this is high on my list things I've always wanted to do.
Fascinating. This was not what I was expecting when clicking on, but as a nurse, I enjoyed this seminar. Sad to think your model today was possibly someones Grandmother. Also, I thank-you for bringing those others forward for recognition.
handsome squidward
I still feel like this is a scam.. it's impossible to know if the person was skinny or chubby from just looking at a skull
It’s forgery at its best💯
Nope. The structure of the skull determines your facial appearance. This is nothing new. It's not like they guessing and we haven't had thousands of years worth of human medical discoveries and progression, but yeah, a scam 🤦🏻♂
Sorry but when we got to over 40 plus “um” and “ah” within less than 1 minute of the dude speaking, it lost me.
I have done some facial reconstruction. One thing that was always true with other reconstructionists is that they tend to include a similar "look" to the final product that is more similar to their own facial construction. As a result, their work is strangely "similar" as if each individual had the same mother or father.
As in this video, and other people's work I have seen, there tends to be a strange familiar appearance to clearly different people and ethnic backgrounds. Following muscle locations and tissue thickness markers are fine as a rudimentary beginning, however, the "artist" must separate their vision from themselves so as NOT to include their unintentional inclusion of their own self. Also, these markers must not be misconstrued as factual which would ignore how people actually look in life.
Wonderfully educational. Thank you.
Poor sad people. You all did an awesome job and really care about your work. You did them proud. They must be smiling at you from Heaven
This is the most fascinating program I have watched on RUclips ..the way you talked the way all through doing the lady was great it is nice to see the way it done and have it explained ..I would have loved to have done this sort of thing myself when I was younger ..life just passes by so fast..but I do still like learning new things and this was amazing to watch a person appear before your eyes..I do hope that she did have some nice times and her life was not always bad..But it is amazing to see life from the past become real and I am sure all the children who go to the museum will remember them more because they are looking into their faces..You do a very important job .
fascinating! I enjoyed the program. I can see what a great value your work is to identify those lost and only partly found. Thank you for your work.
If I was younger I would have loved to do this, I think I would have been good at it
It is so amazing
Thank you to share your knowledge. A big hug!
Fascinating and somewhat humbling to see faces from not so very long ago within my grandparents era
Thank you
thank you for the video. the experts are great. gosh, i feel so bad for the people who past on. rest in perfect peace. they may have had a hard life on this Earth, however, they will have the glory in heaven.
Good luck to the people who do this in 2000 years to reconstruct the faces of people in LA and NY, because this will NEVER be the faces people who knew them will know. It will only be faces pre-surgery, pre-fillers, pre-botox,... etc ...
Looks a bit like Jason Statham and Bea Arthur had a baby....
😂😂😂😂. Cut it out
I want to learn how to do that😊
I didn't think this is very reliable,
It is only the representation of the Artist.
No creó qué ésto sea muy fiable,
Sólo es la representacion del Artista.
We need more of this educational and comprehensible learning...I mean this is what I bring to the table...ALOT! THANK YOU SO MUCH TO EVERYONES SACRIFICES TO BRING THIS KNOWLEDGE TO US, THANK YOU FROM THE BOTTOM OF OUR HEARTS!!
This was absolutely fascinating! I thoroughly enjoyed this. I found myself feeling around my own head and neck as the muscles were described. lol My heart goes out to these people, I don't envy the life they had and I hope they found peace in death.
I don't Think this works at all. When i get the Money, I will make a 3d print of my skull, and send it in, without them knowing how i look. I think they would get the same result by having the face made over a rock.
They were burial's for a reason. Leave them buried. It's disrespectful to dig them up.
Skulls cannot determine the actual appearance. I've seen even the most accurate ones when compared with photos were quite off not very similar. Eyes size shape, nose shape, chin shape cannot be determined. Men with cleft chin have larger mentalis muscles and denser chin. Also, the Europeans, Middle easterns, and South asians have exact same caucasoid skull yet have slight distinctive features from one another so even race cannot be accurately determined.