This brought up fond thoughts of my long-time friend, Yoko Shimada, who played Mariko. Yoko-san passed away last July from complications of colorectal cancer. She was a very loving and caring person and all who knew her miss her.
Ah so sad. Such a beautiful lady😥. This series is one of my all time favourites as is the book. I read the book before the series came out. It's stunning. Yoko Shimada was just as I imagined her. Richard Chamberlain was amazing in this too. They don't make them like this anymore, sadly. Fond memories of my youth💖
Many a young man fell in love with her thanks to this show...For myself, it turned into 8 years in Osaka... My last night before I went back to Canada...I went to Osakajo...to walk the grounds one final time....and touched the stones....
@@kdfrk247 I recommend that everyone who enjoyed the series should read the book and then watch the movie again. The book fills in a lot of holes in the story that are just hinted at or completely passed over in the movie. Even serious students of the Tokugawa Shogunate and the years leading up to it might be helped in their understanding of the movie because of the liberties taken with the actual events.
Thats essentially what Mariko was saying to Ishido when he was going to put an arrow into Anjin-sans back. As far as I recall, been awhile since I read the book
This is true. The Sioux Warriors came upon a geologist in the mid-late 19th C. When they opened his bags they found rocks. Assuming he was crazy the word went out that he should be left alone to gather rocks and not be harmed. He was crazy and therefore should be left unharmed.
@@sabimegeorges7629 Connery probably could have done this, but I personally don't think he had the same power as Chamberlain for the part of Blackthorn
It wasn't as much as quick thinking as it was just that the Japanese where so buried into formality. Blackthorn was just unpredictable. In this particular case he leaned into the stereotype of barbarians. In the books it made a little more sense. A woman, I don't remember who, was supposed to be there so he said that they were violating a woman's virtue by looking inside. Again, using their own misconceptions of foreigners. It was going to be a bloodbath, but Aijin saved them from that with his antics. The other Japanese were just going to kill each other.
@@aronzimas5660 No, "woman's virtue" is from 2024 series. In the book, Blackthorn yells about a prince giving a letter himself being bad luck just like in the 1980 adaptation. It didn't make sense that in 2024 version a samurai fails to obey a simple order just because someone would shout at him.
I remember this really blew my mind on how he pulled it all off without getting everyone and himself killed considering he was acting fairly sane up until that point.
He was one of the great Mini-Series actors. You always wanted to see where the story would lead. I just read Shogun which is now 45 years old and the Story is 1200 pages of Brilliant life of 1600's Japan. Richard was also great in the ThornBirds.
I wish they did the other books as well. If they did the Asian Saga today they would probably do them as independent storys but with easter eggs like Black Mirror and reuse some main actors as reincarnations.
That last part where he writes that for the rest of his life Blackthorne knew Mariko would be with him, in the good times and tragic times, even in the winter of his life. Brilliant and sad writing.
I watched this show as a kid, but only now reading the book, hence why I'm rewatching clips. Great show and book. I have a quarter of the book to go. I loved this scene in the book, although in the book ANjin-san grabs ishido by the neck in the scene
I am on page 600. Masterful book. The portrayal of Yabu as the man who sadistically boils that poor guy alive and then shows superhuman courage saving Rodrigues was astonishing.
Ishido ... would have liked a part 2 to the book after 40 000 heads were taken in last battle and every commoner was invited to saw at ishidos neck when he was buried in the dirt.😊
@@carloschu7127I saw the new 2024 version of this scene and all it consisted of was the new 'Blackthorne' screaming for like 5 seconds. Such an amazing adaptation. 🙄😒
I am in about half of the book now, looking forward to watch this series. But I see there will be lots of stuff bothering me being very differen from the book, as every book adaptation after all. Golden times when I didnt like books, now I just can't fully enjoy movies based on them.
Matt is now an Elder and Tobin well you know all about that, This will be my last Christmas on Earth and they will spend it with me, even if I am not there yet, as I am bound here in Houston till the 1/6
This is one the worst tv series ever, especially this chapter, that brainless man does as wishes and nobody does anything to stop him, but in the first chaper an old man gets beheaded, for not bowing. It makes no sense... as most of these tv series.
This scene is one of the best of Richard Chamberlain and the new scene in the 2024 stays really behind this, because the new anjin-san is not bad, but he doesn't reaches the acting skills of Chamberlain. ❤Netherteless its okay for me that they made a new version. Its aceptable to have a ne version after 40 years for the next generation.
No. It's not. It's different, fitting to it's time. I have fond memories watching this with my mother back in the days....the new Shogun is phenomenal in today's perspective.
Having read the book a couple times but never seen this, this is disappointing. Was expecting a hornpipe as per the books and story arc - ruclips.net/video/UyKFM8-yLbA/видео.html - this is just lazy directing and choreography and a big missed opportunity. Especially as after Toranaga's victory after leaving Osaka, Blackthorn teaches him the hornpipe, and at his great victory over Ishido at the end Toranaga dances a hornpipe to himself. They also didn't do this with the new series. A bit sad.
This kind of military or "war" dances are very athletic, and an actor would have had to train for several weeks all day, especially if requested to blow in a pipe at the same time, unless the character was not pictured as proficient in them in the book.
What choice did he have?...He used their confusion about the foreigners against them and saved all their lives...The "hostage" system in Feudal Japan was no joke.
He nearly was in the book, because Blackthorne actually took a swing at Ishida after the latter slapped him. The only reason Ishida didn't kill him on the spot was because Mariko convinced him Blackthorne had gone batshit, and in gaijin culture it was unlucky to hand over a message like a commoner--that Blackthorne was trying to save Ishida from dishonor. As Yabu had convinced Ishida that Blackthorne might be useful in the future, Ishida decided the gaijin wasn't worth killing. (And technically, Blackthorne was English, not American--the United States was still 166 years in the future.)
@@PolarizedMechs "Yankee” dates from the seventeenth century (1601-1700), when the British and the Dutch were fighting for possession of New York. It was originally used by the Dutch to insult the British. Also Yankee is believed to originated from the Dutch equivalent of the English name John.
This scene is just as disappointing as are so many others in this series. In the book, Blackthorne reacts to the slap by trying to choke the life out of Ishido. He doesn't start playing fool until after the slap. Lack of faithfulness to the book is a major and glaring fault in the series. Such as: 1. Mariko is better looking than Kiku in the movie, not so in the book. 2. Hiromatsu never has his sword in his hands, while in the book he always does. 3. Except for the seppuki scene, Yabu looks more buffoonish than anything else. 4. Ishido isn't the right fit for the character. Realize the producers were under severe limitations during the filming, but there is no excuse for such character alterations, poor casting decisions or deviations from the book.
Not correct on the fool part. I have the book in front of my eyes and Blackthorn starts "babbling" and "raving" immediately, right on his first phrase.
@@whitemouse2460 Look again. After Ishido slaps him, he breaks loose and starts acting the fool as he leads them out. Before that, he was trying to intercept the note Ishido had and babbling that it was 'bad luck.' That's not playing a fool; that's desperation.
This brought up fond thoughts of my long-time friend, Yoko Shimada, who played Mariko. Yoko-san passed away last July from complications of colorectal cancer. She was a very loving and caring person and all who knew her miss her.
Ah so sad. Such a beautiful lady😥. This series is one of my all time favourites as is the book. I read the book before the series came out. It's stunning. Yoko Shimada was just as I imagined her. Richard Chamberlain was amazing in this too. They don't make them like this anymore, sadly. Fond memories of my youth💖
Many a young man fell in love with her thanks to this show...For myself, it turned into 8 years in Osaka...
My last night before I went back to Canada...I went to Osakajo...to walk the grounds one final time....and touched the stones....
I was ten when I saw the series and was positively enchanted by her. She seemed otherworldly. Really sad to hear she is gone.
@@kdfrk247 I recommend that everyone who enjoyed the series should read the book and then watch the movie again. The book fills in a lot of holes in the story that are just hinted at or completely passed over in the movie. Even serious students of the Tokugawa Shogunate and the years leading up to it might be helped in their understanding of the movie because of the liberties taken with the actual events.
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Absolutely loved the series and fell in love with with this beautiful lady. So sad to hear of her passing . Rest in peace dear lady, rest in peace.
Richard Chamberlain is one of our finest, most versatile actors. He, along with Toshiro Mifune, made this one of the finest series ever.
this was such a masterpiece TV series
Lots of cultures worldwide thought it was bad luck to kill a crazy person.
Thats essentially what Mariko was saying to Ishido when he was going to put an arrow into Anjin-sans back. As far as I recall, been awhile since I read the book
This is true. The Sioux Warriors came upon a geologist in the mid-late 19th C. When they opened his bags they found rocks. Assuming he was crazy the word went out that he should be left alone to gather rocks and not be harmed. He was crazy and therefore should be left unharmed.
Belated reply, I just saw Kurosawa's Ran. Was the daimyo's madness the reason why his son's armies did not kill him after laying siege to the castle?
Yes, it was a bad lack, because, crazy person may talk to ghosts and spirits, complain them
I heard that they did this scen so many times that Richard were close to go to the hospital due to overheating
Anjin's kimono received a strange WI-FI.
The original stage instruction was, "Blackthorne speaks calmly to that other guy", but Richard Chamberlain can't help but chew the scenery.
It's good to see that all those years of dancing lessons paid off! Jokes aside, Chamberlain was brilliant in this.
To think they wanted Sean Connery for the role
@@sabimegeorges7629 Connery probably could have done this, but I personally don't think he had the same power as Chamberlain for the part of Blackthorn
Key scene to understand the essence of braveness and loyality
Blackthorne's quick thinking saved Lord Toranaga's life.
It was the second time he'd done so. The first time was when he saved Toranaga from being buried during the earthquake.
It wasn't as much as quick thinking as it was just that the Japanese where so buried into formality. Blackthorn was just unpredictable. In this particular case he leaned into the stereotype of barbarians. In the books it made a little more sense. A woman, I don't remember who, was supposed to be there so he said that they were violating a woman's virtue by looking inside. Again, using their own misconceptions of foreigners. It was going to be a bloodbath, but Aijin saved them from that with his antics. The other Japanese were just going to kill each other.
@@aronzimas5660 No, "woman's virtue" is from 2024 series. In the book, Blackthorn yells about a prince giving a letter himself being bad luck just like in the 1980 adaptation. It didn't make sense that in 2024 version a samurai fails to obey a simple order just because someone would shout at him.
@@thudor1 The earthquake is after this scene.
@@artm1973, thanks. It's been so long since I've seen it all the way through.
I remember this really blew my mind on how he pulled it all off without getting everyone and himself killed considering he was acting fairly sane up until that point.
Yoko Shimada, RIP🙏 17 May 1953 - 25 July 2022.
Wonderful man and actor
He was one of the great Mini-Series actors. You always wanted to see where the story would lead. I just read Shogun which is now 45 years old and the Story is 1200 pages of Brilliant life of 1600's Japan. Richard was also great in the ThornBirds.
I wish they did the other books as well.
If they did the Asian Saga today they would probably do them as independent storys but with easter eggs like Black Mirror and reuse some main actors as reincarnations.
That last part where he writes that for the rest of his life Blackthorne knew Mariko would be with him, in the good times and tragic times, even in the winter of his life. Brilliant and sad writing.
And the Three Musketeers.
I was in my first year of High school , I was glued to the tube.
Her performance has aged better than the entire production.
Watching this after 2024 Shogun Episode 2 😂
BRAVO Richard una STUPENDA intepretazione
COMPLIMENTi 👌👌👍👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏❤❤
The castle lord and his soldiers seemed a little disturbed watching Blackthorn raving like a crazy man.
This clip will earn some serious views from now on!
I watched this show as a kid, but only now reading the book, hence why I'm rewatching clips. Great show and book. I have a quarter of the book to go. I loved this scene in the book, although in the book ANjin-san grabs ishido by the neck in the scene
I am on page 600. Masterful book. The portrayal of Yabu as the man who sadistically boils that poor guy alive and then shows superhuman courage saving Rodrigues was astonishing.
@@willhuck9179 you can't be a sadist and have courage
Toshiro Mifune! 🙏🏽
Genius
Nice scene and funny
This version was so much better then the one on now.
Totally different from what we got now
Have you watched the remake version. Sublime and entertaining af. One of the best series of 2024.
@@AidanaTrachtenberg It's ok but it's a pale shadow of the 1980 version.
Yoko Shimada made this worth watching.
Está escena es buenísima , ❤😂😂😂
Excelente serie.....
Awesome loved Shogun
Way better than the new version
It was great to see them redo this scene in the new series. I was waiting to see if they would do it
Loved this part
1:10 - 1:31 is classic😀
Wished they wouldve filmed this a night with Toranaga in full female make up
Ishido ... would have liked a part 2 to the book after 40 000 heads were taken in last battle and every commoner was invited to saw at ishidos neck when he was buried in the dirt.😊
It took, what, 3 days for him to die as related in the book? Something like that
@ravenmoon5111 while Toranaga danced....a sea shanty probably...
The contrast between this and the show😂
Give the new show a chance.
@@carloschu7127 The original 1980 adaptation is superior.
Perhaps if they switched the lights on.
In absolutely nothing. Keep your nostalgia aside@@jiminycriket
@@carloschu7127I saw the new 2024 version of this scene and all it consisted of was the new 'Blackthorne' screaming for like 5 seconds. Such an amazing adaptation. 🙄😒
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Ishido used slap - it's super effective.
better than Cosmo's
Increíble desprecio por la vida.
Why must they be so brave 😓😓😓😓😓😓😓❤❤❤❤❤
l love richard chamberlain forever❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤💝😍😘💝😍😘💝💝💝😍😍😘😘😘😘
I am in about half of the book now, looking forward to watch this series. But I see there will be lots of stuff bothering me being very differen from the book, as every book adaptation after all. Golden times when I didnt like books, now I just can't fully enjoy movies based on them.
it gave you more when you read the book. but watching this movie and remember all the chapters makes me imagine how come that they made it so well!
I found the tv adaptation quite faithful to the book, only some details more or less important are lacking in the tv adaptation.
surprise mr chamberlain was able to do so many takes of this scene....each time took so much energy to do....
Where can you see now
Matt is now an Elder and Tobin well you know all about that, This will be my last Christmas on Earth and they will spend it with me, even if I am not there yet, as I am bound here in Houston till the 1/6
ya en la historia bíblica el rey David había actuado de loco estando entre los enemigos de su pueblo para que no lo mandarán a pelear contra su pueblo
Mad dogs and Englishmen
To really sell that he went mad he should have started going naked.
What in the Batman and Robin is going on here!? 😂
Poor Richard had to do this all day long!
😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆🤗👋👋👋👋👋
This is one the worst tv series ever, especially this chapter, that brainless man does as wishes and nobody does anything to stop him, but in the first chaper an old man gets beheaded, for not bowing. It makes no sense... as most of these tv series.
Jajajajajajaja :B
This scene is one of the best of Richard Chamberlain and the new scene in the 2024 stays really behind this, because the new anjin-san is not bad, but he doesn't reaches the acting skills of Chamberlain. ❤Netherteless its okay for me that they made a new version. Its aceptable to have a ne version after 40 years for the next generation.
this is much better then new shogun
No. It's not. It's different, fitting to it's time. I have fond memories watching this with my mother back in the days....the new Shogun is phenomenal in today's perspective.
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Way better than the remake.
I actually thought that remake handled this better
Having read the book a couple times but never seen this, this is disappointing. Was expecting a hornpipe as per the books and story arc - ruclips.net/video/UyKFM8-yLbA/видео.html - this is just lazy directing and choreography and a big missed opportunity. Especially as after Toranaga's victory after leaving Osaka, Blackthorn teaches him the hornpipe, and at his great victory over Ishido at the end Toranaga dances a hornpipe to himself. They also didn't do this with the new series. A bit sad.
This kind of military or "war" dances are very athletic, and an actor would have had to train for several weeks all day, especially if requested to blow in a pipe at the same time, unless the character was not pictured as proficient in them in the book.
One of my most hated scenes in this series
What choice did he have?...He used their confusion about the foreigners against them and saved all their lives...The "hostage" system in Feudal Japan was no joke.
@@projektkobra2247 Sankin-kōtai
The Yankee could be dead in reality ...
He nearly was in the book, because Blackthorne actually took a swing at Ishida after the latter slapped him. The only reason Ishida didn't kill him on the spot was because Mariko convinced him Blackthorne had gone batshit, and in gaijin culture it was unlucky to hand over a message like a commoner--that Blackthorne was trying to save Ishida from dishonor. As Yabu had convinced Ishida that Blackthorne might be useful in the future, Ishida decided the gaijin wasn't worth killing. (And technically, Blackthorne was English, not American--the United States was still 166 years in the future.)
@@PolarizedMechs "Yankee” dates from the seventeenth century (1601-1700), when the British and the Dutch were fighting for possession of New York. It was originally used by the Dutch to insult the British. Also Yankee is believed to originated from the Dutch equivalent of the English name John.
This scene is just as disappointing as are so many others in this series. In the book, Blackthorne reacts to the slap by trying to choke the life out of Ishido. He doesn't start playing fool until after the slap. Lack of faithfulness to the book is a major and glaring fault in the series. Such as:
1. Mariko is better looking than Kiku in the movie, not so in the book.
2. Hiromatsu never has his sword in his hands, while in the book he always does.
3. Except for the seppuki scene, Yabu looks more buffoonish than anything else.
4. Ishido isn't the right fit for the character.
Realize the producers were under severe limitations during the filming, but there is no excuse for such character alterations, poor casting decisions or deviations from the book.
It was different in the 80s. Hopefully, the remake will be more faithful.
@chuddlevideos, no, they will just screw it up by turning Mariko into a Mary Sue...
@@chuddlevideos It isn't. 😑
Not correct on the fool part. I have the book in front of my eyes and Blackthorn starts "babbling" and "raving" immediately, right on his first phrase.
@@whitemouse2460 Look again. After Ishido slaps him, he breaks loose and starts acting the fool as he leads them out.
Before that, he was trying to intercept the note Ishido had and babbling that it was 'bad luck.' That's not playing a fool; that's desperation.
So bad
The new one is way more realistic
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