Hi Tony - the Clayton was used extensively in Scotland but had a very short career as they were so unreliable. You might be interested that in September 1963 numbers D8501 and D8536 moved to the Tyne Dock area where they were tested in multiple on Consett iron ore trains. They proved far too underpowered for this work, and so were moved to Ardsley shed a few months later where they undertook a variety of freight work both individually and in multiple. Subsequently all of the locomotives allocated to the Eastern Region were transferred to Haymarket where they were employed on freight traffic in southern Scotland and northern England. Cheers Euan
Hi Euan. i do remember reading somewhere how unreliable the claytons were. leaving pelaw junction on the way to consett there was seaton bank very steep gradient 2 Fs use to push pull those heavy iron ore trians. loved to have seen those in action........thank for the interesting facts. love Railway history my friend..........cheer's Tony
On my layout, these magically turned out to be reliable locos and became the standard Type 1 (vs drab reality where BR ordered another 100 Class 20s, with the headcode boxes, to replace them). So I'd like to give mine domino headcodes and TOPS numbers to suit. And deactivate one tail light each side - two tail lights meant the royal train or the Edinburgh-Glasgow push-pull sets until the late 80s
Hi Paul - It's a great loco and will look even better when I add the buffer beam detail. I think it looks brilliant in the Ribble Cement livery and would allow it to sit quite comfortably on a modern day image layout. Cheers Euan
Hi Euan thanks for a honest review of the Clayton, it will be a great addition to your fleet. Fingers crossed for your new railway room to begin on time mate.
Hi Steve. Yes it's a pretty neat looking loco and is performing well on the layout. Would be great addition for anyone modelling the late 60's / early 70's. Cheers Euan
My achievement for the week was getting almost-independent control of the head and tail lights with a Zimo MX518N16 decoder. Can't show tail lights both ends or headlights both ends but can stop it showing head /tail lights at the end coupled to a train at least!
Lovely looking model Euan and very appropriate for your area, if maybe a wee bit early. Rare to see one actually running and without smoke and flames pouring from the bonnets. I think their lack of reliability and quirks endeared them to diesel fans, railwaymen - probably not so much. I'm quite surprised to hear how popular these models are, great to hear. I would have thought they would appeal to quite a small, niche market - glad I'm wrong. I'd love to get my hands on one of these; I'll maybe wait 'til I've got somewhere to run it though. 😁
Hi - thanks for your comments - totally agree it's a lovely looking loco. I can remember these locos coming to my own local station back in the late 60's pulling the ubiquitous 16t coal wagons and then shunting in the 4 coal sidings. I also remember one breaking down on the line at the bottom of the garden - so yes they were very unreliable. The model shop owner in Carlisle said he could have sold the locos 10 times over and he said it was the best selling N gauge he has ever had. Cheers Euan
@@thegrowler-blackwoodngauge Yep, I remember seeing one dumped in the Down siding at Linlithgow with fire damage. I was stood on the Largs platform at Kilwinning with my Dad, when one pulled in on a coal train, pouring smoke from the cab. The driver didn't waste any time abondoning it and half of Ayrshire was closed while the local fire brigade dealt with it. We had ringside seats, as our train was behind it somewhere. I never found out why so many caught fire but I never did hear of any modification being made. I'm sure that habit was, at least, part of the reason for their short careers.
@@2H80vids - I think their use in Ayrshire was widespread with there being so many coal mines. They were a regular on the weekly coal train to EK. Cheers Euan
@@2H80vids very true - the last regular goods trains (coal) were in the late 80's/very early 90's. The 4 sidings of the coal yard are now blocks of flats. Even the run round line beside the platform was removed. Effectively it's just a big long siding now. That said they are in the early process of electrifying the line so a second platform is going to be built, the station building moved to the middle of the existing platform and both will be able to handle 8 car EMU's. Euan
Hi Euan, nice review and I really like the Clayton in BR blue and it’s been nicely weathered. I think it has a look of European like loco. Fingers crossed about the cabin let’s hope all goes to plan. I have at last some trains running albeit on a very small scale just to test my soldering!!! Off to start painting my garden fence while the weather is dry, I’d prefer to be in the cabin!!! Cheers Euan, John
Hi John - it is a lovely engine and the application of the livery is really crisp and clean. Hope you get that fence painted !! The latest Information I got yesterday is the lockdown isn't affecting the company supplying the building nor the delivery schedule - so four weeks on Monday and a building should appear- fingers crossed. Cheers Euan
Hi Tim - There is just something about them that makes them look fascinating. In Austria OBB have a loco which looks very similar only difference is it's electric. The class did have a very short life - only lasting around 10 years. Thanks for commenting- appreciated. Cheers Euan
Nice review Euan, it really does look like a nice loco, maybe in time I will pick up the preserved version, but for now it will have to wait. All the best Tony
Hi Tony - I'd certainly recommend it - the one I have runs really well at slow speed which is more appropriate for this loco as it was basically used for shunting and goods trains. All the best Euan
Hi John - glad you liked the history of the loco in real life - I enjoyed doing the research on it. It's my first ever review so can certainly improve on my "technique" so to speak. Take care and thanks Euan
Hi Euan, great update and you didn’t even need to use the sledgehammer 🔨😱😂😂😂 100% agree on the Class 17, it is a fantastic runner at slow speed especially under DCC. It could even handle my dodgy track work 😱😂😂😂 Hope there is no delay on the new room 🤞🏻 you could then do a Hogmanay Live Stream to celebrate 🎉😮🔨 Very best wishes from County Wicklow ☘️
Hi Paul - it was your upload of the class 17 which prompted me to buy it ! Yes agree it is a cracking model and a good advert for EFE Rail. Will just need to wait to see what happens with the building - but yes I could do a live stream in my kilt on Hogmanay - now there would be a sight for sore eyes!!! All the best from a wet and windy 🏴 cheers Euan
Great review of a nice little engine, I have been looking at early diesels that would almost suit my layout and that is one has a nicer appearance than others.
Hi - Although the loco in real life was a bit of a disaster for BR it's still a brilliant model. EFE do various guises of the loco and you would find one that really suits your layout. Cheers Euan
@@thegrowler-blackwoodngauge Never owned a diesel in OO or N, but that one does have more character than something like a 47. It may have to go on my Christmas list.
Hi Euan, I found your comment that you could not find the loco in Ribble Cement livery strange. I found at least 20 on eBay and Rails of Sheffield have stock available at £96.50.
Hi Ian and many thanks for commenting. I'm a bit old fashioned in that I like to see the loco in the flesh so to speak - so never ever buy off of the likes of Ebay. My two "local" model shops - Harborne Hobbies and C&M both said the model was flying off the shelves like they have never seen before - especially the one in Ribble Cement livery. - hence neither had it. Cheers Euan
Hi Anthony - In St Johann OBB usually roster a loco very similar to the class 17 for shunting in the sidings. The only difference is it's electric. Could this be a "crocodile " ? Cheers Euan
Thanks for the review Euan. If the model is as popular as touted then hopefully Revolution Trains will have a rethink over their proposed Class 21. I don’t see why one would be popular and not the other.
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Hi Euan, a superb loco. dont think i have seen one of those before. lovely detailed and in N gauge....all the best Tony
Hi Tony - the Clayton was used extensively in Scotland but had a very short career as they were so unreliable. You might be interested that in September 1963 numbers D8501 and D8536 moved to the Tyne Dock area where they were tested in multiple on Consett iron ore trains. They proved far too underpowered for this work, and so were moved to Ardsley shed a few months later where they undertook a variety of freight work both individually and in multiple. Subsequently all of the locomotives allocated to the Eastern Region were transferred to Haymarket where they were employed on freight traffic in southern Scotland and northern England. Cheers Euan
Hi Euan. i do remember reading somewhere how unreliable the claytons were. leaving pelaw junction on the way to consett there was seaton bank very steep gradient 2 Fs use to push pull those heavy iron ore trians. loved to have seen those in action........thank for the interesting facts. love Railway history my friend..........cheer's Tony
Great review and excellent layout. I picked one of these up a few days ago and am very impressed with it. Great runner and looks superb.
Hi Ian - totally agree - fantastic looking loco and although it is bit out of the time period I model just couldn't resist buying it. Cheers Euan
On my layout, these magically turned out to be reliable locos and became the standard Type 1 (vs drab reality where BR ordered another 100 Class 20s, with the headcode boxes, to replace them). So I'd like to give mine domino headcodes and TOPS numbers to suit.
And deactivate one tail light each side - two tail lights meant the royal train or the Edinburgh-Glasgow push-pull sets until the late 80s
Hi Euan
What a great loco to add to your layout, it looks superb and runs really nicely too. I hope we'll see more of it in the future.
Cheers Paul 👍
Hi Paul - It's a great loco and will look even better when I add the buffer beam detail. I think it looks brilliant in the Ribble Cement livery and would allow it to sit quite comfortably on a modern day image layout. Cheers Euan
Hi Euan thanks for a honest review of the Clayton, it will be a great addition to your fleet. Fingers crossed for your new railway room to begin on time mate.
Hi Steve. Yes it's a pretty neat looking loco and is performing well on the layout. Would be great addition for anyone modelling the late 60's / early 70's. Cheers Euan
My achievement for the week was getting almost-independent control of the head and tail lights with a Zimo MX518N16 decoder. Can't show tail lights both ends or headlights both ends but can stop it showing head /tail lights at the end coupled to a train at least!
That's a good job you've done there mate.
Lovely looking model Euan and very appropriate for your area, if maybe a wee bit early. Rare to see one actually running and without smoke and flames pouring from the bonnets.
I think their lack of reliability and quirks endeared them to diesel fans, railwaymen - probably not so much.
I'm quite surprised to hear how popular these models are, great to hear. I would have thought they would appeal to quite a small, niche market - glad I'm wrong. I'd love to get my hands on one of these; I'll maybe wait 'til I've got somewhere to run it though. 😁
Hi - thanks for your comments - totally agree it's a lovely looking loco. I can remember these locos coming to my own local station back in the late 60's pulling the ubiquitous 16t coal wagons and then shunting in the 4 coal sidings. I also remember one breaking down on the line at the bottom of the garden - so yes they were very unreliable. The model shop owner in Carlisle said he could have sold the locos 10 times over and he said it was the best selling N gauge he has ever had. Cheers Euan
@@thegrowler-blackwoodngauge Yep, I remember seeing one dumped in the Down siding at Linlithgow with fire damage. I was stood on the Largs platform at Kilwinning with my Dad, when one pulled in on a coal train, pouring smoke from the cab. The driver didn't waste any time abondoning it and half of Ayrshire was closed while the local fire brigade dealt with it. We had ringside seats, as our train was behind it somewhere.
I never found out why so many caught fire but I never did hear of any modification being made. I'm sure that habit was, at least, part of the reason for their short careers.
@@2H80vids - I think their use in Ayrshire was widespread with there being so many coal mines. They were a regular on the weekly coal train to EK. Cheers Euan
@@thegrowler-blackwoodngauge Now there's a line that hasn't seen a diesel loco for a while.
@@2H80vids very true - the last regular goods trains (coal) were in the late 80's/very early 90's. The 4 sidings of the coal yard are now blocks of flats. Even the run round line beside the platform was removed. Effectively it's just a big long siding now. That said they are in the early process of electrifying the line so a second platform is going to be built, the station building moved to the middle of the existing platform and both will be able to handle 8 car EMU's. Euan
Hi Euan, nice review and I really like the Clayton in BR blue and it’s been nicely weathered. I think it has a look of European like loco. Fingers crossed about the cabin let’s hope all goes to plan. I have at last some trains running albeit on a very small scale just to test my soldering!!! Off to start painting my garden fence while the weather is dry, I’d prefer to be in the cabin!!! Cheers Euan, John
Hi John - it is a lovely engine and the application of the livery is really crisp and clean. Hope you get that fence painted !! The latest Information I got yesterday is the lockdown isn't affecting the company supplying the building nor the delivery schedule - so four weeks on Monday and a building should appear- fingers crossed. Cheers Euan
great review video. i have never seen one in real life but hope to see the preserved example one day. i think the weathering looks good on the model.
Hi Tim - There is just something about them that makes them look fascinating. In Austria OBB have a loco which looks very similar only difference is it's electric. The class did have a very short life - only lasting around 10 years. Thanks for commenting- appreciated. Cheers Euan
Nice review Euan, it really does look like a nice loco, maybe in time I will pick up the preserved version, but for now it will have to wait. All the best Tony
Hi Tony - I'd certainly recommend it - the one I have runs really well at slow speed which is more appropriate for this loco as it was basically used for shunting and goods trains. All the best Euan
Hiya Euan the sole surviving Clayton is at Chinnor and Prince Risbourough railway I believe it is at Kidderminster going over a major overhaul
Thank you Stuart - I knew someone from the community would know - Cheers buddy. Euan
Hi Euan, yes it's a very nice loco and thanks for going through its history I found it most interesting. Cheers John
Hi John - glad you liked the history of the loco in real life - I enjoyed doing the research on it. It's my first ever review so can certainly improve on my "technique" so to speak. Take care and thanks Euan
Hi Euan, great update and you didn’t even need to use the sledgehammer 🔨😱😂😂😂 100% agree on the Class 17, it is a fantastic runner at slow speed especially under DCC. It could even handle my dodgy track work 😱😂😂😂 Hope there is no delay on the new room 🤞🏻 you could then do a Hogmanay Live Stream to celebrate 🎉😮🔨 Very best wishes from County Wicklow ☘️
Hi Paul - it was your upload of the class 17 which prompted me to buy it ! Yes agree it is a cracking model and a good advert for EFE Rail. Will just need to wait to see what happens with the building - but yes I could do a live stream in my kilt on Hogmanay - now there would be a sight for sore eyes!!! All the best from a wet and windy 🏴 cheers Euan
Great review of a nice little engine, I have been looking at early diesels that would almost suit my layout and that is one has a nicer appearance than others.
Hi - Although the loco in real life was a bit of a disaster for BR it's still a brilliant model. EFE do various guises of the loco and you would find one that really suits your layout. Cheers Euan
@@thegrowler-blackwoodngauge Never owned a diesel in OO or N, but that one does have more character than something like a 47. It may have to go on my Christmas list.
@@MossdaleNGaugeRailway I'm sure Santa could be persuaded to bring one to your layout !!
nice looking loco.. great review.. i think it will look good on the layout ...thx 4 sharing.. vinny
Hi Vinny - many thanks for commenting. Loco does feel at home on the layout. Cheers Euan
Hi Euan, I found your comment that you could not find the loco in Ribble Cement livery strange. I found at least 20 on eBay and Rails of Sheffield have stock available at £96.50.
Hi Ian and many thanks for commenting. I'm a bit old fashioned in that I like to see the loco in the flesh so to speak - so never ever buy off of the likes of Ebay. My two "local" model shops - Harborne Hobbies and C&M both said the model was flying off the shelves like they have never seen before - especially the one in Ribble Cement livery. - hence neither had it. Cheers Euan
Looks a lot like the German Crocodiles. Cool looking. Nice history and look-see!
Hi Anthony - In St Johann OBB usually roster a loco very similar to the class 17 for shunting in the sidings. The only difference is it's electric. Could this be a "crocodile " ? Cheers Euan
Thanks for the review Euan. If the model is as popular as touted then hopefully Revolution Trains will have a rethink over their proposed Class 21. I don’t see why one would be popular and not the other.
Hi Ed - agree it seems strange one model seems to be selling like hotcakes and another seems to struggle to get off the ground. Cheers Euan
its a nice loco runs well on my layout , only issue if it is one , is that it very light , thus inclines are a problem
Hi David - as I'm going to put in a couple of helixes this is useful information re inclines possibly being a problem . Cheers Euan
Quite like the 17 class locos, I do have s thing for the smaller locos
Although a bit out of my time period the loco is brilliant model. The detail on the loco even in N gauge is crisp and clear. Cheers Euan
Hi Euan, good video, nice loco.
Best regards Gert
Hi Gert - many thanks for commenting. Cheers Euan
good update keep posting update
Thanks Lee - cheers Euan
Show and congratulations on your channel and great videos, my channel is about railroad especially the logistics route in Araraquara s.p - Brazil, thanks
Hi - many thanks for commenting. Trains in Brazil must be very different from those in the UK. Cheers Euan
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