I highly highly suggest using drum leveler by Sound Radix. Not only will it level your transients but it has an EXCELLENT gate that will cut out all bleed after the drum transients are level AND there are many settings that are fully adjustable. That was step one. The next step I usually do is take any parametric eq, and automate a high shelf to dip and cut all high end out when the drum plays to eliminate cymbal bleed. Take that automated dip and paste it across all the drum hits. Creating a macro in Cubase to paste across all transients will make it super fast than having to paste on every drum hit!
As far as the tracking part of things goes, I highly recommend some SDCs on toms. I haven’t been compelled to gate toms one single time since I started doing this. The bleed just sounds great.
Dude, try the SSL gate, on any SSL channel strip emulator (of course, the real one be even better) 99% of the time I can get it that clean with no automation needed, in minutes, with no fuss. The other gate to try is Slate Trigger. It's pretty damn good, too, with the added benefit of being able to mix in clean samples.
I've had tremendously good results with Wilkinson Audio DeBleeder. Unfortunately, it doesn't support MacOS 11+. But in a pinch, I rout through an older machine, and print the tom tracks back, post-debleeding.
My favorite method is the Tom Lord Alge way, editing your tracks, cutting every tom hit manually instead of using gates, split the sustain portion of the clip during the cymbal hits and put a lowpass filter at around 600hz pre fader and put a fade out at the end, that's the cleanest, most natural sounding way, it fades into your overheads and rooms. It is a lot of work, takes a long time but it's totally worth it, I've never looked back since I learned it. Your method seems pretty similar and equally laborious. Virtually the same, I work on Reaper. Is that The Ice Age movie song?
I totally agree. 😊 If you want good results, sometimes you have to put the extra work in to get there. Lol. It does sound a bit like the ice age song - wasn't intentionally done. I was just messing around, tracking random ideas with some friends for demo purposes. 👍 😊
The one thing that I have struggled with for endless hours and now finally I’ve came across someone who feels my pain 😀
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Really good piece of information. Thank you. Would love if you posted more tips in this realm as well.
I highly highly suggest using drum leveler by Sound Radix. Not only will it level your transients but it has an EXCELLENT gate that will cut out all bleed after the drum transients are level AND there are many settings that are fully adjustable.
That was step one. The next step I usually do is take any parametric eq, and automate a high shelf to dip and cut all high end out when the drum plays to eliminate cymbal bleed. Take that automated dip and paste it across all the drum hits. Creating a macro in Cubase to paste across all transients will make it super fast than having to paste on every drum hit!
As far as the tracking part of things goes, I highly recommend some SDCs on toms. I haven’t been compelled to gate toms one single time since I started doing this. The bleed just sounds great.
Sounds great. I love doing processes like this, Knowing how to use basic functions for advanced results.
Amazing video can you do this on live tracks to clean up as much as possible
Or try the Fabfilter Saturn trick
Dude, try the SSL gate, on any SSL channel strip emulator (of course, the real one be even better) 99% of the time I can get it that clean with no automation needed, in minutes, with no fuss.
The other gate to try is Slate Trigger. It's pretty damn good, too, with the added benefit of being able to mix in clean samples.
I've had tremendously good results with Wilkinson Audio DeBleeder. Unfortunately, it doesn't support MacOS 11+. But in a pinch, I rout through an older machine, and print the tom tracks back, post-debleeding.
I can't keep up with the amount of plugins available, but this sounds really good. I'll have to check it out. Thank you. 👍
My favorite method is the Tom Lord Alge way, editing your tracks, cutting every tom hit manually instead of using gates, split the sustain portion of the clip during the cymbal hits and put a lowpass filter at around 600hz pre fader and put a fade out at the end, that's the cleanest, most natural sounding way, it fades into your overheads and rooms.
It is a lot of work, takes a long time but it's totally worth it, I've never looked back since I learned it.
Your method seems pretty similar and equally laborious. Virtually the same, I work on Reaper.
Is that The Ice Age movie song?
I totally agree. 😊
If you want good results, sometimes you have to put the extra work in to get there.
Lol. It does sound a bit like the ice age song - wasn't intentionally done. I was just messing around, tracking random ideas with some friends for demo purposes.
👍 😊
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