How To Setup A Queen Banking Colony..(Optional Video 4) JC's Queen Rearing Series
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- JC's Queen Rearing Series optional video 4. Learn how to setup a queen banking colony and how they are used to store queen cells. Previous video • Retrieving And Adding...
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Another good one J, but now you will need more nuke boxes to give each queen its own colony, then on to mating flight and hope she returns, you can't have two returning to same hive so it's got to be spaced apart... It's going to get tricky in case some don't return.. but we shall see. Great job.
You are making the complex, manageable. Thanks JC.
Raising Queens seems so complicated. I guess it will come to me once I get my hands on. Your comments are clear and easy. Its just me I guess. Thanks JC,
Thanks Jason,
I've been a Beekeeper for over 40yrs,and never,in my wildest dream's find it so hard to keep Bees,
I had my own methods of Breeding Queens that,works well for me,
I'm always open to new Idea's,
And so find yours to be quite interesting,
Keep making those videos,
Jason hope you had a wonderful Holiday and wishing for you a Great and Productive New year 2020.
GREAT SERIES Jason!!! Very informative series!!! Really enjoyed the whole thing!
You look like a mad scientist J.C! Very good info to know, because I'm sure I'd get rain, or my back will go crazy on me no doubt the first time I were to try this! On one hand it seems very simple, but on the other hand it seems very complicated. Honestly, there also seems to be a lot of invested specialty equipment involved as well that may put a lot of people off from trying. Great video!
Thanks for the valuable information. I appreciate it.
Very good information Jason, I was just thinking of that lately the last few day with our rainy weather, have to pull about 50 cells in a couple days
Thanks
Thank you for sharing your experience and knowledge.
Thank you!
Watched series.
Grafted
Easy as pie.
Thanks again Jason I’ve studied old instructional last year with great success. At it again and so far so good. No honey this year was a bad winter north of border.
Keep up the great videos. Great help.
Thank you for your time and information SIR
Heyy there..!
First off all I would like to thank you for making videos which are of tremendous help for the new beekeepers.
And now question is "after raising a queen bee, how do you ensure that the queen gets mated and ready to harvest".
The series have been helpful! Creating the environments for each step and practicing now! Thanks
That's great! I hoped that breaking it down in separate videos would make it easier to follow. Best of luck!
Thanks from Nepal Jason. It was very informative.
Again, excellent video! New at raising queens this year so this is very helpful. I have 12 out of 16 grafts that have been started. I am excited.
Jason, I haven't seen any new videos for a while now, but I REALLY appreciate the ones you have made already. Tons of information. Thank you!
New video coming tomorrow morning. Sorry there has been a dry spell on the videos.
Very helpful Jason. I'm making queenless nucs today so I can transfer my first grafted queens tomorrow.
Yes, transfer them if you haven't. Best of luck!
Thank you so much.
This is so amazing and technical.
Thank you for making these videos your style seems like the method I am interested in. I’ll subscribe for sure please keep making these.
Good vid Jas....especially the end comments.
Thank you for explaining something hardly anyone explains
Loved this video Jason, thanks! Great information!
like your modified frame
Great stuff Jason so many good tips
Excellent video. Great information. Thx so much. Joined you. Going to watch all your videos.
Welcome aboard! Hope the videos are helpful.
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You charge extra for the wire nut plugs😁👍😎 the cell protectors look like wire nuts in the thumbnail.
Love the hair roller cages!!
Man, that tip about the deformed wing is priceless
Great video man
I learned so much.!
Awesome!!
I was trying to think of something witty and smart alecky to say but I'm drawing a blank, I must be tired. I'll just say another good video Jason, nice job buddy!
I can relate to that! I try my hardest to give it right back but recently I have been slipping. lol Thanks for watching and get some rest man!
Hey Jason great series on queen rearing! What would be the maximum time you would leave the virgin queens in the bank??
He explains that in the video. He did it five to six days on this occasion and explains what to do if you need it to go a little longer, and why not to keep it too long.
I have the Genesis Incubator, it works great and it cost me like $160.
I use a Little Giant incubator it's cheapo but does a great job.. I use it from day 10 to emerge but not for banking. Your using your incubator to bank? If so, for how long?
My next video is on my incubation process.
No I don't bank them in that incubator, but it does take some of the pressure out of getting those cells placed immediately. I place them in the incubator on day 9 and if I don't get to them immediately I have some cells to place as well as some already emerged virgins.
I just started using the incubator this year and love it! I've been thinking about turning my observation hive into a incubator. It would be cool because I would be able to place the banking frame in and have room for 2 more. You could also see them better through the glass than you can through the plastic cover on my egg incubator.
I think I like introducing virgins better than cells. With the virgins you get to examine them for physical defect before introduction.
Yeah I just started using mine this year too. It's great, I either place them as they are chewing their way out or as a virgin.
I found a fellow that lives about 6 miles from one of my yards. He built an 8 frame double deep incubator that sits in his "Bee Lab" (dining room). He does instrumental insemination. Very interesting man to say the least. You may have heard of him. Mikes Bee's in Forest, Ohio. Right now I have 5 freshly hatched virgins from this week in special cages that I built. Right now they are banked on top of the frames in a queenless hive under a screen top shim that I made. Hopefully I can finish my NUCs tonight and the weather cooperates to get them installed.
Awesome explanation
👍 good job 👍
It surely feels good to hear your enjoying my videos so much. Thanks!!
Thank you Jason for taking the time to show us all the different ways things can be done. Also I have a question. What can you do if find out one or more colonies are queenless on winter?
I forgot to add, no extra queens available.
I enjoyed this ! Thanks Jason
Thanks very much, I'm really looking forward to our spring (in Australia) so I can try my first lot of queen breeding. Do you find those queen cups stay in the frames ok or do they sometimes fall out?
I am wanting to keep queens all summer for just in case purposes. ( I mashed a queen 2 weeks ago and didn’t know it till cells were capped). So if I raise a few queens and put them in queen castle. They stay in there for a week or so then get cramped up and swarm ? Do you take 1 of the frames of brood the new queen laid and put in another hive and replace with a frame of foundation to help stall them out on running out of room ? Also at the end of the year do you just crush all but one of the queens and combine the one queen and all 8 frames from the castle to overwinter ? Thanks bud. Keep the videos coming.
JC, it's 2021 ! Great video from 2018...
Question: If you have limited Bee population* (to make up Nucs per new Queen rearing.) 1) Could you advise how many (few) bees are needed to make up small "mating Nucs?" eg amount of bees needed per mini Nuc ?
2) Is it possible to say ...
Take a Virgin Queen, place her in said 'mating nuc,' allow time to get her mated. Then, catch her, re-cage her, and bank her (with her hatched, also with her newly mated sister) Queens, together???
In a Queenless banking Nuc?
Eg My situation : I have :
1) A main Hive to Build / Finish Queen Cells....
2) Hopefully enough bees to make up mini mating Nuc or two*...
3) Enough bees to maybe make a "Banking Nuc to support these Queens??? Until.... more bees brood and Nurse Bees are built up !
I want to make and add Hives to my Apiary, that's my idea.... 😉
Only ask as I want to raise my own Queens, for these Hives.
I only have, this Spring, an over wintered x1 Horizontal Hive. And a few New Nuc Boxes to work with !?!
Can Queens be banked until, seeing whose good, whose failed/replace from banked ones (!) And or sell on spares?
If Queens not looked after in a hive body will fail and die... 😱
So how can this be achieved?
I fear more cells will hatch than Nucs can be made... *
I presume a Virgin can only be caged for a few days, and then needs to be mated ASAP. So she is able to be fertile??? .... If this mating is delayed, (by cage) does it affect her fertility in mating late ? Eg is their a window of opportunity ? Or is time ticking on this ???
Can't find any info out there...
Thanks, 1st Spring Beek ! 😉
I know this is old question but some one else might have the same problem you can make nucs very small the frame can be one three inch square in a box just big enough to hold it but the smaller you make them the more you have to provide the things that they require IE temperature control,food source ,water source.small dollar store Styrofoam ice chest or buckets work great to make small nucs in just make small frames that stand on bottom not hang like normal keep out of sun in protected location with feed and water in each hive small one bee openings different colors to help queens find right box if you see on with out enough bees to maintain temps you can shake from your bigger hives in to a bucket shake the bucket to send the older bees home you will be left with nurse bees spray them with light sugar water and place the amount you want in front of the hive you think needs boosting they will walk right in .to help with temp control you can wrap with towels old closes or what ever.try not to change location once they are set up once the queens are fertilized you have to keep close eye on them for needing bigger accommodations
That’s a great video! Very descriptive. I’m subscribing! What state are you located?
Thanks. I am in central Ohio.
Thanks for answering so quickly. If I have queens bought with packages that will be 2 yrs at the end of next season, do you have recommendations on how I would switch out those queens in August-September in Colorado to have a mated, young virile queens for next Spring?
I see that you got a nice little channel plug from across the Pond on Richard Noel's latest video.
I just seen that myself yesterday, very nice. Richard is doing great things across the pond. I have been a long time follower of his and we are also FB friends. Thanks for letting me know about the plug.
Great video again!
Usin quinless colonly is not always necesary to start raring, all you need to do is to block the queen at one part of beehive, with proper exluder, ges one body of LR and grafted cels will be started. Sure, much better results will be in case of quinless colony, more started cels...
Jason, appreciate your videos very informative. Having trouble finding the red queen cell protectors. Can you direct me or provide the link? Thanks. Kevin
They are a Mann Lake product. I have tried to find them on Amazon to add to my store but had no luck.
Thanks Jason. I have the problem of sometimes needing to bank laying QUEENS,for just a few days. Do you do that? Can you do a video on that?
Well done man 👍👍
Inspiration
Was your banking Nuc Queenless in this video? I didn't catch that part,I know usually QR but I don't see why it would matter ,long as there's nurse bees.
Yes it was queenless.
Question - how long can you maintain this queen bank - can you use it to replace queens at the end of the summer headed into Fall? If so, how would they be mated?
I haven't used a queen bank for more that about 10 days but that's just me, maybe it could go longer but not sure. Also you would want to make sure there is still drones present or your virgin queens would not get mated. Personally here in Ohio, I don't mess with raising queens after August. If a colony goes queen-less and doesn't raise a queen then they are combined with another colony.
Love the video serries. Do you mark your queens?
Glad you enjoyed it and yes I do mark my queens. If you search my channel you will find a couple videos on marking queens.
I wanted to ask...in this video you used the red cell protectors first, before using the clear cylinder cages.
Does this mean there's a better success rate with the red ones (cell protectors)? I'm curious why you'd done the red ones (cell protector type) first, despite being smaller than the air roller type?
The cell protectors were used because the cells would not fit directly into the wooden caged. The cell protector is tampered like a funnel so the queen could emerge and walk into cage. I've since started only using the roller cages to let queen emerge into and anymore I've learned it way easier to use an incubator.
@@JCsBees I'm interested in your books on bees. But it doesn't say how many pages each one is? Any thoughts? I'm not expecting an encylopedia, but hope there's enough material in there to be worth the trouble. (But Lawrence J Connor's book only has about a bit over a hundred pages.)
Maybe missed it. But how long can you have the virgin queens in the queen bank?
That depends on a few factors with I discussed in the video. Did you skip through the video? Not sure how you missed it. lol
How long can you bank a queen in the cages and are queens fed through the window screen by nurse bees?
I guess it obvious, but is the queen bank queenless? (other than the caged queens).
Yes it is queen-less!
Do you have have Honey houses to work with the honey?
Currently I am using a 10'x10' front porch that is closed in with huge windows. It works well but get awful hot mid day. Great for flowing honey though.
thank you for answering
I hatched out some vergins into a cages. One of them the wing looks wrinkled. Will this be a problem?
A queen that can not fly will never get mated. A non mated queen will only lay drones. Yes it's a problem.
I might have missed it, is the queen bank queenless? TIA
Yes, it is queenless, no need for a queen. The nurse bees will concentrate all their efforts on feeding the queens in the banks.
Jason would it work to put the queen bank back into to finisher hive or would it not work because of a mates queen in there??????
I can't see why it would not work as long as you have brood in the top deep.
One other thing, I don’t have my mates queen locked down in bottom Super, she is in top and bottom story in my finisher hive when I raise queens.....would that make a difference then or not?
So your telling me your finisher is opposite of mine? Why would you set it up like that? Seems like more work to access cells but should work the same, I guess.
I guess I just learned that you don’t have to lock the mated queen down into the bottom super with excluder, it’s not necessary
But you think it wouldn’t be an issue putting the Queen bank in there with her running around freely???
Interesting! If your not using an excluder I would not add banking frame.
Could you please tell us what kind of food should be provided to the fertilized queens If they are kept in the incubator's queens store? Thank you.
I'd try a drop of raw honey and a drop of water daily.
How many of those cups are you getting on one bar?
@Joseph Woodall If I remember correctly you can get 14 on one bar.
@@JCsBees thank you I've taken on a task trying this for someone else. Though I haven't tried it myself yet your videos and Richard Noel's videos have given me confidence. Thank you for all the information.
Hello I have a question. I'm looking for a method to fertilize 100 queens as fast as possible? I need to transport this fertilized queens to california. The fertilization must be between 3 to 5 days. Do you know a method for this? thanks in advanced.
You would need to artificial inseminate and that requires tools, very expensive tools. Then you would need the know how and that I do not have just yet. Good luck!
@@JCsBees I believed them same.thing thanks for your reply it was very helpful
The queen dose not require a maiden flight using your method.Thank you Greg
Yes, she does. She’ll go once she’s placed in her colony
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whats your opinion of the Nicot system where you dont have to graft the larva??
I think the nicot system is crazy expensive. To buy the full kit you'll have well over $100 in it. I guess that's fine if your successful with it but if not it's a waste of money.
I bought an Amazon UK one,
I guess a Hookey "Chinese Knock Off." It was only £8 or about $9 : For the Cage Box (Queen Laying Complex) lots of Clear Brown "Cups" x 100
x12 Roller Cages, the Cage Holder Ends, and Cup Holders.
A real bargain purchased just recently [January 2023 !]
Hope this helps. 😎
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Is there still a chance that a queen be mated if it is not mated for almost a month of waiting?
At a month of waiting the chances are slim. Best to introduce new queen and pinch old one. Sorry!
So you mean to say reintroduce with the new one?
I think you can do it yourself, just watch and learn from Woodglut.
JC, what is your opinion on grafting vs the cell punch methods?
I think the cell punch is a great method if you only want to raise a dozen or so queens. Long term, you wouldn't want to keep punching hole in your comb. Sure the bees do repair the comb but usually with drone comb. The cell punch also saves a lot of delicate work moving larva. Grafting takes lots and lots of practice to get good results but is better if you plan to raise lots of queens.
Have you seen my cell punch kit? jcsbeeblog.blogspot.com/2014/02/queen-rearing-cell-punch-kit-offer.html
Hey Jason how long can you store queens in the bank has long has you put capped brood?
The longest I have went is a week but longer may be possible if you keep adding brood.
Jason Chrisman I have heard that the viability of the Queen decreases the longer she is not mated. That is, she is not as effective at laying or is just not as vigorous. Did you find that to be the case with queens over the 4-5 day time frame or even the 1 week extended period? Or did they mate and lay well and become good quality queens. It also has been stated that queens that have been mated can live much longer in a bank than unmated queens. Even up to several weeks if workers are placed in the cage. But the same is not so for unmated queens and that they should be mates as soon as possible. Has this been your experience? Thanks for the video, very helpful!
How to arrange that cups sir?
I know you can find solutions to this problem in the Woodprix plans.
Are you selling queen?if yes what is the price
First!!
Did you use inseminations?
No. These were hand grafted virgin queens. They still need mating flights.
How do I friend you or get you number I am a new bee keeper
Do U have a queen this late