@@gnosticmind yeah but it's still the name you grew up with, and how realistic do you think it is to expect a kid going to school to change her name? ppl are also gonna be like "lol you knew her real name i x right?" also calling yourself "gnostic mind" is extremly ungnostic
1. Use hip-hop aesthetics 2. Say "i'm not a hip-hop artist" 3. Release mid good-for-nothing albums 4. ??? 5. Profit Optional: if you get called out, say "I've always been a rockstar" or "i'm not a rapper, i'm an artist"
I'm from India. I have enjoyed hip hop and other American music genres, and I used to think all American musics were a unifying thing for all American people, heck, even in other countries. Heck in India we also have a hiphop and rap scene. You might have heard of Hanumankind. But I have never known the extent to which black culture gets repackaged by US market forces and how non-black people sell them and only they get to reap the benefits. Thanks to FD Signifiers's videos and this one, I now know more. Thank you!
@@pjihaehave you ever lived in South Korea? I’ve always been curious about other countries’ rap scenes. Do people in sk generally know about the US’s history of slavery and exploitation of black people?
@@kebbobebop In Belgium we generally do know about the history of black people in North America, but I don't think a lot of people link it to the hip hop scene, the same way most white Americans also don't seem to understand hip hop is intrinsically linked to black culture, and don't understand how that culture came about. One thing I do find interesting is a trend of white Flemish people rapping in their own dialect. And Flemish dialects are incomprehensible if you grew up just one town over. Belgian language history is a whole rant unto itself, but long story short, the Flemish used to be an underclass until we did capitalism so hard we became the dominant social class, but that was very recent, and a lot of Flemish people grew up with grandparents and even parents who weren't allowed to even speak their own language in school and your prospects weren't great if you didn't speak perfect French. These days speaking Dutch is fine, but it's still considered low class to use a dialect. (Kind of how Americans might look down on someone with a strong Appalachian or southern accent, if I understand correctly.) Most Flemish people with a strong accent or dialect will code switch when speaking Dutch. So it feels meaningful to me for these guys to rap in dialect. I don't know if they see it that way, but they're definitely doing something, it does feel spiritually akin to true hip hop in that sense, even if it might not be on purpose.
@@clementinedanger That’s very interesting! I could totally see how that would happen. Sometimes I forget just /how many/ Americans are not aware of how many genres of music we enjoy today came from the harsh experiences of black people. I’m sure there are other countries who are aware of our ✨expertise✨ in teaching our own history. /s Some states do it better than others.
I think all genres have a sense of culture and aesthetic behind them but i definitely feel like Rap and countrys aesthetics are just more identifiable.
One of my favourite as well as one of the best country stars is Charley Pride. The Eminem of country. As well, Ray Charles loved country music because of the stories the songs would tell. Country and rap are similar in that regard.
Madonna isn't even solely a culture vulture for black culture. I remember an interview with Kurt Cobain where the interviewer asked him about how Madonna was trying to get in on the whole alt-rock/grunge train when it became popular in the early 90s and he basically called her what she is, an opportunist.
Madonna was punk when she moved to NYC in the late 70s she played at CBGB. Safe Neighborhood, Emmy and the Emmys and The Breakfast Club were bands she fronted vocals and guitar or background vocals and drums. You can find it on RUclips. Do you think her friend and former baby sister Iggy Pop was the one who did her rock and roll fame just randomly. She wasn't even on the cover of her debut single because they planed on Milli Vanniling her. After disco demolition night dance music and White Audiences went together like water and oil. So the album artwork was a painting of the hood and they planned on hiring a black woman to lip synch to her vocals. She's such an innovator that she would have been the only person in the history of dance music to have been the white one actually singing while having a black person at do mouthing along. But You guys keep talking about Supposedly dropping a sound when they become mainstream? Um she consistently had RNB on her albums until Ray of Light...which was 1998...16 years into her carrer. Ray of Light is outlier never repeated...but You're walking on thin ice major hikes if you're gonna say that cheating a cultural vulture of a religion that she converted to that she's still practices over a quarter century later. Then you have Music and American Life...is she being a culture vulture of Western Europe? Confessions built every song off a disco or new wave sample is a woman who lived through that time period a culture vulture? Hard Candy was mostly RNB. MDNA was EDM And you can't sit up here and tell of a straight face that madonna is a culture vulture of dance music. Rebel Heart sounded like all her previous work except Ray of Light lol. And Madame X had everything. Unless you want to grasp at straws and use Batuka as an example...which was an afrobeat song....and has all 6 of her kids as song writers...4 of which she adopted from Africa. What about her and Latin music surely right? La Isla Bonita was the late 80s,Evita was 96,she sang what it feels like for a girl in Spainish on her Drowned World Tour,her song Spainish Lesson on Hard Candy in 08,all the Spainish and Portuguese songs on Madame X were 2019, Back up to the Beat was 2023. Also I forgot on American Life there was Nothing fails so she only had 2 albums with no RNB. People accuse her of stealing from the queen community as well...her brother who passed away in between your uneducated Comment taking heroin attack blue office heads word seriously...Christopher Ciccone Helped in the creative process of choreography and live shows was gay. Also y'all need to stop doing bi erasure to Madonna.
@@ChelaximAnd she did an INCREDIBLE job at believably and convincingly pretending to care about all the music genres she used to make herself money. Art isn't just aesthetics or sound, its culture, its language, and that is especially true in music. Madonna has never been a part of the subcultures she draws inspiration from, or cared about what they were about. She didn't "use to be" punk, grunge, disco, R&B, hip-hop, house, or any of the scenes her music sounds like. She wasnt hanging with those crowds. She just made her money. For some people thats fine. Obviously you're some people.
@GenMilleXial Em proved that Wahlberg was a poser tough guy, when he insulted him on live TV, Wahlberg knew he had too take it, if he retaliated Em would have dug up some past dirt and destroy him again in a song.
@@jason4275 no one cares. anyone who knew hip hop never took Mark Wahlberg seriously. he was always a known vulture, and dude has more money than Croesuses now.
Post Malone pisses me off so much. He consistently only praises folky, guitar based music and cynically puts down the ones he actually participates it. Its because the music that he likes is not easy for *him* to do cheaply. He made bad rap music because he inherently undervalued the artform and considered it lesser. He makes shitty country for the same reasons. He claims to love the fleet foxes and bob dylan, but he does not ever try to emulate those styles. There is an inherent view he has about certain styles of music being superior to others, one that is definitely subconsciously based on race as well. it was so telling when he said, "i go to bob dylan, like we all do." Hes a wannabe and a true fraud
That "like we all do" really showed his hand there. He assumes everyone is just putting on an act like him, and he doesn't understand why it's obvious how fake he is. Put next to someone like Eminem, who is also white, but who loves clearly lives and breathes, hip-hop, the difference is night and day.
He’s made several classic emo soul albums. He’s praised Young Thug multiple times. He’s also never criticized OutKast, Tupac, or Ye. And the latter actually gave him one his first collabs. Not emulating Bob Dylan or classic country actually makes him authentic. He’s doing something new rather I like it or not.
@@kevintc-r7069 No one cares what music he makes, this isn't about that. The issue is him talking down hip hop as a genre, saying that when he wants to cry or feel something he listens to Bob Dylan. The message is clear, he believes that hip hop has no emotional depth, he just sees it as party music. Any true fan of hip hop knows that there's just as much emotion to be found there as anywhere else, but he wouldn't know that because he as no actual care for the genre. He's just another culture vulture like Kid Rock, here to cynically make money off black music by selling a stereotype, then pivot to "real music" once they're successful. The shameful part is that it was allowed to happen at all. Use your ears, the man is telling you with his own words, what he thinks real music is, and what's a party costume that he takes on and off, and you expect lovers of hip-hop to take it well?
Drake is canadian, drake is from memphis, drake is from atlanta, drake is from texas, drake is from new orleans, drake is carribean, drake is puerto rican, drake is african, drake is "I'm such a incredible melting pot of people" 😂😂
This man really said "when I want to feel sad (because I'm a White Man, so I have emotions), I stop listening to the genre of music born of the complete betrayal of an entire generation of black people in NYC at the hands of Robert Moses. Instead I listen to some folksy shit." The more I hear about him from Nickolas, FD, Prof Skye and them, the happier I get that I've not heard a single song of his.
@@erica_em or maybe to some blues that was… no wait, some rock and roll that originated… When someone like this has no respect for one musical culture you can bet they’re going to disrespect the rest of them.
@@cottagehardcoreultrasw3998 the made up kind that has no emotion or soul. Because if there’s one thing that black art and music is known for, it’s having zero soul 😭
Yes, I guess Pink falls in that category. But Pink never claimed any titles like "Queen Of RnB" or anything, she never downplayed Urban music when she stopped, and she always gave credit to the originators
That's odd when she outright said she thanks La Reid for allowing her to keep singing r and b (aka "letting her be her a poor white Jew girl from Philly " in her words) And white executives wanted to make her pop at 14:45 I remember the 1999 interview where she literally said it even praised Babyface as well It just proves the video's points even more
As if we needed more proof that Drake is a profoundly unserious musician, the fact that he hasn't ever met the man or flexed the fact that Larry f---ing Graham is his half uncle shows he doesn't actually respect music as an art form, particularly the legacy and influence of his forebears on his chosen form of musical expression
Doesn't take a serious interest in music and doesn't understand black Americans enough to know that people would care that his uncle was part of Sly and the Family Stone and invented the the "slap" style of playing bass. Kendrick had to fill most of us in on that.
I’d argue that Drake’s brand, and his success, has always been about making rap accessible to white audiences, and while appalling, it’s totally within expectations that most white kids have no knowledge of Larry Graham and don’t put any respect on his name. To Drakes audience- his REAL audience- it’d look like he was shouting out his less successful uncle in some weird reverse nepotism (never mind the absolute insanity that is to people in the know) Trust me, we’re lucky not to be in the timeline where Drake fans are all over Twitter either belittling or vulturing Graham
It still feels bizarre to me that most white people didn't know what twerk meant until Miley Cyrus. We were calling it twerking during the 2000's in highschool dances. Crunk was huge.
@@lovelight1149 you don’t know what we’re talking about. You’re just adding 2 cents because you’re uneducated about what we’re saying. This detracting is the main problem. "Chile" is also how we spell "child", because visually it depicts how we say it. White people took "chile" and actually thought it meant "chile" as in the country, because they don’t understand most of our dialect, slang, or the way we talk. They just know we make things trendy, immediately copy it, and don’t know what they’re doing, appropriating snd gentrifying every aspect of our culture and community. Therefore, they started saying "Chill-Ay" when pronouncing "child" which shows they just copy things immediately, and don’t know what they’re talking about, because they are not in our culture. They just like to mimic it because they have none. We all know the Latin American country is pronounced chil-ay. That’s not what any of this was inspired by
shit i was white and knew what twerkin’ was. but i’m from the South and was hype to what 3 stacks said when he said he grew up on Booty Shake. my shit was 2 Live Crew and T Double D cuz i was from Florida. but we were as into the Dungeon Family as that Miami shit.
You know what, I find it funny (and definitely infuriating) that some of the people on the list were complaining about what rap had become and why they don't like it, but it was in part their fault. They were part of the problem and never had to think about it at all.
Lmao yep. I'm ngl I feel like the whole character was just a jacked version of Malibu's Most Wanted. Unfortunately, I might've been putting a lot more nuance than what wrestling is capable of
I’ve always wondered if Kanye’s ex Alexis Phifer was the true soul behind Kanye’s earlier brand of black centric music. I believe Alexis was sort of an activist from what I remember. And he switched up around the time his mother died and they broke up. Losing the only two connections to black women he had. And she’s also a fashion designer… so there’s that major influence. I’ve always felt like Kanye doesn’t have original ideas. For as much as he likes to talk about being a free thinker. His conservatism doesn’t even resemble black conservatism. Not the traditional kind like Ben Carson. Or the Mano sphere kind. It sounds like white people. Like Caitlyn Jenners brand of conservativism. Keep in mind no one seems to talk about the fact Kanye has always used ghost writers. Or that he routinely also steals from smaller creators. Maybe we have Kanye all wrong. maybe he’s not a radical thinker or even radically creative. the real Kanye is just the guy that’s always looking for someone else’s ideas. And had a good eye for it. And has always valued the rich white guys ideas more. I could be completely wrong about this. You are the research guy. This is just off the dome.
Producers and beat makers always know about the style thiefs and beat jackers. People outside of the niche don't seem to care. Timbaland and Dr. Dre also get away with it so easily.
You are wrong. And people always complain about culture vultures but his Takeover beat is literally just the Doors with a couple more drums. Just like Dr Dre’s California Love is just Joe Cocker. Google it. They’re the same songs. People need to complain less and create more.
@@oophorror2251 I’m trying to understand your point but im not getting all the context from your comment. You’re saying I’m wrong that he’s a vulture because I’m complaining that Kanye ripped off beats right? For one, I didn’t actually call him a vulture in my comment. Because I don’t really know who is or isn’t. This video was compelling enough to make me on the side of he is one. But my comment was more about his politics. How the Kanye we love is really just a mirror of the black women in his life and their ideas. And in losing that source he lost his soul. And how his tendency to take styles from smaller creators hints at the type of personality that will also uncritically take political ideas from people around him.
WOW. I was absolutely not paying attention to any form of mainstream pop culture in the early-mid 2000s, so I just absolutely lost it at those photos of pop singer “rebrands”. That one was a jump scare. Wow.
Post Malone is hilarious to me, no clue how anyone took it seriously. He was friends with Idubbz and lived with skydoesminecraft, y'all. He's been in their videos like how did anyone let him in lmfao
@@Fezaki I knew black fans of hip hop lost touch with reality when they praised a white boy with braids claiming to be iverson as the best song out atm…tragic.
I'll be honest, P!nk never wanted to be a RnB artist, that's what her label wanted, only reason she even had that album to begin with was because she used to be in an RnB girl group in the 90s before they found her. Everyone genuinely thought she was just light skinned, but she's really just versatile with her vocals, Honestly Kid Rock should be in the place of her segment. Plus, ngl as a black person, I genuinely want her to make another RnB album, she killed it the first time, I bet she could do it again, RnB has been making a comeback recently.
John Cena. I mean. Finding fake and exploitation in wrestling is like going to a circus and finding clowns. I know people that said he’s a very nice guy though
Dude is a corporate created wrestling superstar... Everything about him is uninspiring... I like him but he is no way the legend people think him as now.
yeah for him he’s more tied to contract and corporate, he has to play the character assigned. which is why he was able to switch so easily when he did the all american shift. i see cena as more of an excaption but i get the critique
@@theroyalcranethey weren’t even successful until her brother left to work on the Simpsons and she joined. Y’all are nuts. Collaborating with the Neptunes and 3stacks on a couple pop songs is not a culture vulture.
@@squarecymbals honestly i think gwen stefani was more of a vulture for japanese culture... Does anyone remember the harajuku girls? Anyway Gwen's my no. 1
@@NickolasNameolas I can’t thank you enough. I’m in a real dark place right now and your videos give me a break from all my self loathing thought spirals to remember the rest of the world is horrible too.
Sweet Malcolm McLaren shoutout. I got 2 of his albums, Swamp Thing and Fans, in highschool at a used CD store then slowly learned about his life as a fashion designer and his work in the early punk scene. What a rad dude, what a rad reference. I never heard another person bring him up. Also thank you for bringing up Larry Graham. Idk why that's not brought up constantly. I grew up a bass player and a degrassi fan and would bring that up as a fun fact all the time.
Ngl I was today years old when I learned Timberland said "let me see what your twerkin' with" when this entire time I thought it was "let me see what your working with".🤦♀️
Fun fact, or not so fun fact actually, Madonna has also appropriated Jewish culture, saying she practices Jewish Mysticism, but is also a Christian...? She has a tattoo of the Kabbalistic Tree of Life. Tattoos are forbidden in Hasidic Judaism, aka contemporary Kabbalah. Girl is a melting pot of appropriation. Shes the living embodiment of the phrase, "oooh [foreign thing] is so exotic!"
James Franco’s character in spring breakers was actually based on a rapper from florida named dangeruss, weird dude who wasn’t really popular but everyone in the area knew who he was. He lives a couple houses down from me a few years ago and I’d see him every day, never ended up getting a picture with him though. I think he even had a song in the movie actually
Yeah, Dangeruss is in the movie, and that’s who Franco said he was based off of. But I never bought that for a second honestly. Alien looked and spoke like Riff Raff who called himself the Golden Alien. Dangeruss was about that life like Franco’s character though, can’t say the same for Riff Raff lol.
Love this video. As an Eastern European who has never been to North America, I often feel disconnected from these important cultural conversations, so this was really eye-opening and refreshing. I didn’t even know about the Madonna thing, despite her music being popular here back in the day, which made me reflect on how Y2K culture often appropriated ethnic traditions, styles, and languages-mainly benefiting rich, white people from uptown commercial areas. It’s wild that Eastern Europeans adopted African-American vernacular despite having no significant Black community or history here, making us doubly disconnected while also benefiting from it in terms of cultural capital. It’s a bit upsetting. Also, your dry humor is hilarious. Subscribed!
12:45 Quelle Chris writes on Deathfame, "To get the party started, like Pink back when brothers thought she was mixed with something." Just an aside since I have been grinding a few of his records..
as a fellow black man I appreciate your willingness to educate and express your thoughts and perspectives. I often find myself confused about my blackness and what it means to be a black man in this country. I definitely need to educate myself more, and i appreciate your help and eye opening commentary.
as a 2000s baby the John Cena reveal hurt ngl he seems like a genuine dude. Even watched his interview with Shannon Sharpe and liked it. I stg nothing is sacred in America...
Lol the creator of this video obviously didn't mention Elvis, despite the popularity of saying he was a vulture, because unlike you he's actually educated and knows Elvis wasn't.
Heres a hot take: Dave Chappelle, not really calling him a "Culture Vulture" per se. But when he started in stand up he was your Basic Def Comedy Jam Comedian, but with the massive success of Chappelle's Show . You start to find out that he wasnt even FROM the HOOD ,like he claimed in a lot of his early stand up. You find out that he actually was middle class with very Distinguished Parents and went to of all things ,a PERFORMING ARTS school.and ironically, initially he really didnt stand out in the echelon of Black comics .nor really saying he was a Vulture, but he's a bit of A POSER.
Party In The USA wasn't just "written by a team of writers" but written by Jessie J who herself went on to profit off of black cultural elements herself with her lyrics and delivery on songs like Price Tag; "it ain't about the ba-bling ba-bling..."
Oh so just because I’m white but call my friends homie and use Bronx slang even though I’m from the suburbs and pick the flesh of the rotted bodies I find laying dead forgotten to time and sand alike in the desert sun , that makes me a vulture .
Do we all forget ol' Postie started his career out as a fucking Minecraft RUclipsr, and was best buds with Ethan Klein? Then suddenly became a rapper, and blew off all his old RUclips buddies like he's too good for it
@@AnimusBehemoth enough time has passed that there are folks online who think Oranjello and Lemonjello were real people. Almost put it in the video but I don’t want it to spread 🤦🏿♂️
@@NickolasNameolas It's gone beyond hack jokes and into urban legend. There's Snopes pages on this. I remember in the late 90s variations of that "joke" were told to me as things that actually happened in America. I think it was "female" (feh-mah-lay) in my neck of the woods. And my neck of the woods is fucking Belgium, of all places. Suburban Flanders. We don't even really speak English here. That's how far these "jokes" traveled as fact on the early internet.
I don’t wanna say I give P!nk a pass for her R&B era but I am the most sympathetic towards her compared to everyone else on this list. If this list was ordered in severity I’d put her at 10 or even just an honorable mention
Her first album came out at the turn of the millennium and R&B was huge. So her label basically decided to present her as “racially ambiguous”. She dropped it with her second album because the label let her
L A Reid/Arista Records were huge in the RnB genre in the 1990s. When Reid "discovered" P!nk, he basically forced her to do an entire RnB album because she had the vocals for it, and there was money there. She fought the label the entire time the album was in production because it wasn't the kind of music she enjoyed making, and didn't get a chance to do the music she always wanted to do until her second album, which she wrote most of the songs for. She never wanted to be in the RnB space. Rather, she was forced there to make money for her label. Years later, Reid admitted that allowing her to take the risk to do her alt-pop-rock music on her second album was the best thing that could have happened because it turns out that ppl liked THAT album just as much as her debut.
Not the worst, but I have an old, non American example of someone who got popular using black culture: Colette Magny, who got famous singing blues and jazz standards. Now, I don't want to throw too much dirt at her (she was apparently a fervent activist against the Algerian War), but, again, it shows how deep this goes.
Seeing this and the influence of blues and jazz on certain genres, like cumbia and salsa, it's a little different because they were influenced by musicians that lived in NYC, and those genres themselves were popular and spread out elsewhere
There's a trend of musicans who don't have the singing chops for pop getting into rap and then switching to pop when they get buzz and have drained what they need from rap.
This reminds me of how someone brought up the fact that words like "rizz" "tweaking" "cap" are called gen z slang when they all started from black spaces, and it feels so unnatural hearing it come from a person who clearly doesnt talk like that normally
@@devilsharvest4375I genuinely can’t stand how much you people don’t know anything about how our culture is 95% of American pop culture, because y’all just learn it from people you know who take it from us and call it their own. Y’all copy everything about us, and most of y’all know it. Y’all just refuse to believe that most of the slang y’all use, what you call internet talk, the music you love, is inspired by what our people created. Y’all just don’t give a crap, and always dismiss us, even though you can do research on your own. But you won’t. Because the thought of us being credited for literally all that we’ve done, upsets y’all. Y’all don’t track anything back to it’s roots when it’s us.
32:55 rings so much now with the Hawk-Tuah girl growing in presence. I thought it was funny, an odd moment caught on camera for us to laugh at, but the comparison with the “eyebrows on fleek” girl really signifies double standards to how we rise certain people up the point of a asinine podcast online for fuck all contributions.
Hey I remember said that talking about something negative might be your winning lottery ticket(At the end of the Joe Budden/Charlanage they not like us video on your channel) for your channel to get more views and intern you can eat of this but I think you are really good at this format as well and your research is off the fucking charts its insane, like wtf. Appreciate your videos man.
Not having kid rock on a list of culture vultures is criminal
@@goldenkrown5538 you’re not wrong, I’m only holding off on him because I might wanna do a whole hiphop country video
@@NickolasNameolas please do
Loool. Kid Rock deserves his own personal deep dive.
@@righteouslioncomedian1069 I still wish I knew what "bawitdaba da bang, da bang diggy, diggy, diggy" meant
@@NickolasNameolas Oh god please do.
Awkafina always pissed me off because I legit went to school with a girl named Dasani who never knew peace because of her name.
@@ccblack3983 damn RIP Dasani
I used to know a "toilet water " that had issues
What is wrong with the name?
People can change their names, you know that, right?
@@gnosticmind yeah but it's still the name you grew up with, and how realistic do you think it is to expect a kid going to school to change her name? ppl are also gonna be like "lol you knew her real name i x right?"
also calling yourself "gnostic mind" is extremly ungnostic
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Great name for a band
1. Use hip-hop aesthetics
2. Say "i'm not a hip-hop artist"
3. Release mid good-for-nothing albums
4. ???
5. Profit
Optional: if you get called out, say "I've always been a rockstar" or "i'm not a rapper, i'm an artist"
The game plan
lmao
Didn't lil Wayne said that lol
@@gamelife2332yeah but that’s Wayne, he was honest about it and acknowledged when it didn’t work out
Post Malone is cool tho
I'm from India. I have enjoyed hip hop and other American music genres, and I used to think all American musics were a unifying thing for all American people, heck, even in other countries. Heck in India we also have a hiphop and rap scene. You might have heard of Hanumankind.
But I have never known the extent to which black culture gets repackaged by US market forces and how non-black people sell them and only they get to reap the benefits.
Thanks to FD Signifiers's videos and this one, I now know more. Thank you!
Well said!
@@pjihaehave you ever lived in South Korea? I’ve always been curious about other countries’ rap scenes. Do people in sk generally know about the US’s history of slavery and exploitation of black people?
@@kebbobebop In Belgium we generally do know about the history of black people in North America, but I don't think a lot of people link it to the hip hop scene, the same way most white Americans also don't seem to understand hip hop is intrinsically linked to black culture, and don't understand how that culture came about.
One thing I do find interesting is a trend of white Flemish people rapping in their own dialect. And Flemish dialects are incomprehensible if you grew up just one town over. Belgian language history is a whole rant unto itself, but long story short, the Flemish used to be an underclass until we did capitalism so hard we became the dominant social class, but that was very recent, and a lot of Flemish people grew up with grandparents and even parents who weren't allowed to even speak their own language in school and your prospects weren't great if you didn't speak perfect French. These days speaking Dutch is fine, but it's still considered low class to use a dialect. (Kind of how Americans might look down on someone with a strong Appalachian or southern accent, if I understand correctly.) Most Flemish people with a strong accent or dialect will code switch when speaking Dutch. So it feels meaningful to me for these guys to rap in dialect. I don't know if they see it that way, but they're definitely doing something, it does feel spiritually akin to true hip hop in that sense, even if it might not be on purpose.
@@clementinedanger That’s very interesting! I could totally see how that would happen. Sometimes I forget just /how many/ Americans are not aware of how many genres of music we enjoy today came from the harsh experiences of black people. I’m sure there are other countries who are aware of our ✨expertise✨ in teaching our own history. /s Some states do it better than others.
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It's tragically ironic that hip hop and country are the most pimped out genre despite having a real culture behind them.
I think all genres have a sense of culture and aesthetic behind them but i definitely feel like Rap and countrys aesthetics are just more identifiable.
One of my favourite as well as one of the best country stars is Charley Pride. The Eminem of country.
As well, Ray Charles loved country music because of the stories the songs would tell.
Country and rap are similar in that regard.
Black ppl didn't create country
Madonna isn't even solely a culture vulture for black culture. I remember an interview with Kurt Cobain where the interviewer asked him about how Madonna was trying to get in on the whole alt-rock/grunge train when it became popular in the early 90s and he basically called her what she is, an opportunist.
Madonna was punk when she moved to NYC in the late 70s she played at CBGB. Safe Neighborhood, Emmy and the Emmys and The Breakfast Club were bands she fronted vocals and guitar or background vocals and drums. You can find it on RUclips. Do you think her friend and former baby sister Iggy Pop was the one who did her rock and roll fame just randomly.
She wasn't even on the cover of her debut single because they planed on Milli Vanniling her. After disco demolition night dance music and White Audiences went together like water and oil. So the album artwork was a painting of the hood and they planned on hiring a black woman to lip synch to her vocals. She's such an innovator that she would have been the only person in the history of dance music to have been the white one actually singing while having a black person at do mouthing along.
But You guys keep talking about Supposedly dropping a sound when they become mainstream? Um she consistently had RNB on her albums until Ray of Light...which was 1998...16 years into her carrer. Ray of Light is outlier never repeated...but You're walking on thin ice major hikes if you're gonna say that cheating a cultural vulture of a religion that she converted to that she's still practices over a quarter century later. Then you have Music and American Life...is she being a culture vulture of Western Europe? Confessions built every song off a disco or new wave sample is a woman who lived through that time period a culture vulture? Hard Candy was mostly RNB. MDNA was EDM And you can't sit up here and tell of a straight face that madonna is a culture vulture of dance music. Rebel Heart sounded like all her previous work except Ray of Light lol. And Madame X had everything.
Unless you want to grasp at straws and use Batuka as an example...which was an afrobeat song....and has all 6 of her kids as song writers...4 of which she adopted from Africa.
What about her and Latin music surely right?
La Isla Bonita was the late 80s,Evita was 96,she sang what it feels like for a girl in Spainish on her Drowned World Tour,her song Spainish Lesson on Hard Candy in 08,all the Spainish and Portuguese songs on Madame X were 2019, Back up to the Beat was 2023.
Also I forgot on American Life there was Nothing fails so she only had 2 albums with no RNB.
People accuse her of stealing from the queen community as well...her brother who passed away in between your uneducated Comment taking heroin attack blue office heads word seriously...Christopher Ciccone Helped in the creative process of choreography and live shows was gay.
Also y'all need to stop doing bi erasure to Madonna.
She stole from blacks , gays, Europeans… just to name a few
@@ChelaximI'm still gonna talk about her weird words in her book about younger prepubescent boys though.
@@ChelaximAnd she did an INCREDIBLE job at believably and convincingly pretending to care about all the music genres she used to make herself money. Art isn't just aesthetics or sound, its culture, its language, and that is especially true in music. Madonna has never been a part of the subcultures she draws inspiration from, or cared about what they were about. She didn't "use to be" punk, grunge, disco, R&B, hip-hop, house, or any of the scenes her music sounds like. She wasnt hanging with those crowds. She just made her money. For some people thats fine. Obviously you're some people.
Madonna has no talent of her own
I love how Em roasted Mark Walberg, till this day he never recovered from that
umm Mark did fine after that.
@GenMilleXial Em proved that Wahlberg was a poser tough guy, when he insulted him on live TV, Wahlberg knew he had too take it, if he retaliated Em would have dug up some past dirt and destroy him again in a song.
@@jason4275 no one cares. anyone who knew hip hop never took Mark Wahlberg seriously. he was always a known vulture, and dude has more money than Croesuses now.
Never recovered? Huh. I'm sure he was just fine.
@@RodrigoFernandez-k2i you need to stop thinking about another man's money.
Post Malone pisses me off so much. He consistently only praises folky, guitar based music and cynically puts down the ones he actually participates it. Its because the music that he likes is not easy for *him* to do cheaply. He made bad rap music because he inherently undervalued the artform and considered it lesser. He makes shitty country for the same reasons. He claims to love the fleet foxes and bob dylan, but he does not ever try to emulate those styles. There is an inherent view he has about certain styles of music being superior to others, one that is definitely subconsciously based on race as well. it was so telling when he said, "i go to bob dylan, like we all do." Hes a wannabe and a true fraud
That "like we all do" really showed his hand there. He assumes everyone is just putting on an act like him, and he doesn't understand why it's obvious how fake he is. Put next to someone like Eminem, who is also white, but who loves clearly lives and breathes, hip-hop, the difference is night and day.
He’s made several classic emo soul albums. He’s praised Young Thug multiple times. He’s also never criticized OutKast, Tupac, or Ye. And the latter actually gave him one his first collabs. Not emulating Bob Dylan or classic country actually makes him authentic. He’s doing something new rather I like it or not.
I’ve honestly never seen Post put down anyone so this is news to me. The dude seems so genuine on everything I’ve ever seen him on. Clearly I’m OOTL.
Maybe post just making the music he wanna make? He had guitar based songs since the stoney album
@@kevintc-r7069 No one cares what music he makes, this isn't about that. The issue is him talking down hip hop as a genre, saying that when he wants to cry or feel something he listens to Bob Dylan. The message is clear, he believes that hip hop has no emotional depth, he just sees it as party music. Any true fan of hip hop knows that there's just as much emotion to be found there as anywhere else, but he wouldn't know that because he as no actual care for the genre. He's just another culture vulture like Kid Rock, here to cynically make money off black music by selling a stereotype, then pivot to "real music" once they're successful. The shameful part is that it was allowed to happen at all. Use your ears, the man is telling you with his own words, what he thinks real music is, and what's a party costume that he takes on and off, and you expect lovers of hip-hop to take it well?
Drake is canadian, drake is from memphis, drake is from atlanta, drake is from texas, drake is from new orleans, drake is carribean, drake is puerto rican, drake is african, drake is "I'm such a incredible melting pot of people" 😂😂
That Miley voice you did was spot on and underrated, you deserve an oscar for that lmao
I will always respect Nicki for checking her and ready to throw hands and Miley punked out😂😂😂
This man really said "when I want to feel sad (because I'm a White Man, so I have emotions), I stop listening to the genre of music born of the complete betrayal of an entire generation of black people in NYC at the hands of Robert Moses. Instead I listen to some folksy shit."
The more I hear about him from Nickolas, FD, Prof Skye and them, the happier I get that I've not heard a single song of his.
"Instead I listen to some folksy shit that was also originated by black people in the south."
@@erica_em or maybe to some blues that was… no wait, some rock and roll that originated…
When someone like this has no respect for one musical culture you can bet they’re going to disrespect the rest of them.
what kind of hiphop does he listen to? hiphop is the music i cry most
@@cottagehardcoreultrasw3998 the made up kind that has no emotion or soul. Because if there’s one thing that black art and music is known for, it’s having zero soul 😭
@@cottagehardcoreultrasw3998 the soulless hiphop made by other culture vultures, i.e. Drake
Yes, I guess Pink falls in that category. But Pink never claimed any titles like "Queen Of RnB" or anything, she never downplayed Urban music when she stopped, and she always gave credit to the originators
I’m not going to lie, I love both versions of PINK!
@erasethebagels Neither do you hockey people
That's odd when she outright said she thanks La Reid for allowing her to keep singing r and b (aka "letting her be her a poor white Jew girl from Philly " in her words)
And white executives wanted to make her pop at 14:45
I remember the 1999 interview where she literally said it even praised Babyface as well
It just proves the video's points even more
@@tinabaygboe6879 could you love a white gay man who was a culture vulture like pink was?
As if we needed more proof that Drake is a profoundly unserious musician, the fact that he hasn't ever met the man or flexed the fact that Larry f---ing Graham is his half uncle shows he doesn't actually respect music as an art form, particularly the legacy and influence of his forebears on his chosen form of musical expression
Doesn't take a serious interest in music and doesn't understand black Americans enough to know that people would care that his uncle was part of Sly and the Family Stone and invented the the "slap" style of playing bass. Kendrick had to fill most of us in on that.
He don’t understand the culture.
I’d argue that Drake’s brand, and his success, has always been about making rap accessible to white audiences, and while appalling, it’s totally within expectations that most white kids have no knowledge of Larry Graham and don’t put any respect on his name. To Drakes audience- his REAL audience- it’d look like he was shouting out his less successful uncle in some weird reverse nepotism (never mind the absolute insanity that is to people in the know)
Trust me, we’re lucky not to be in the timeline where Drake fans are all over Twitter either belittling or vulturing Graham
Maybe they just have family beef or something
@@wu71624 definite the culture, you're talking about one culture
Tuning in!!!
It still feels bizarre to me that most white people didn't know what twerk meant until Miley Cyrus. We were calling it twerking during the 2000's in highschool dances. Crunk was huge.
Chile they never know nothing Then discover it and act like they invented it.😂
@@Celticsgrl88they turned "Chile" into "chill-Ay" they piss me off so much
@@datboi42 Chile the Latin American country is pronounced as "Chill-ay".
@@lovelight1149 you don’t know what we’re talking about. You’re just adding 2 cents because you’re uneducated about what we’re saying. This detracting is the main problem. "Chile" is also how we spell "child", because visually it depicts how we say it. White people took "chile" and actually thought it meant "chile" as in the country, because they don’t understand most of our dialect, slang, or the way we talk. They just know we make things trendy, immediately copy it, and don’t know what they’re doing, appropriating snd gentrifying every aspect of our culture and community. Therefore, they started saying "Chill-Ay" when pronouncing "child" which shows they just copy things immediately, and don’t know what they’re talking about, because they are not in our culture. They just like to mimic it because they have none. We all know the Latin American country is pronounced chil-ay. That’s not what any of this was inspired by
shit i was white and knew what twerkin’ was. but i’m from the South and was hype to what 3 stacks said when he said he grew up on Booty Shake. my shit was 2 Live Crew and T Double D cuz i was from Florida. but we were as into the Dungeon Family as that Miami shit.
Honorable mention to MGK, French Montana, and Justin Beiber
**Dishonorable
Don't forget Justin Timberfake I mean Timberlake.
@@DarkTitanX Eminem?
@@Andy-td8eo Him and Kid Rock.
How is MGK, French Montana and Justin Bieber culture vultures? 😂 Y'all are dumb.
You know what, I find it funny (and definitely infuriating) that some of the people on the list were complaining about what rap had become and why they don't like it, but it was in part their fault. They were part of the problem and never had to think about it at all.
Not being familiar with John Cena's wrestling career I hadn't heard his blaccent before. It's super awkward.
Lmao yep. I'm ngl I feel like the whole character was just a jacked version of Malibu's Most Wanted. Unfortunately, I might've been putting a lot more nuance than what wrestling is capable of
Same. I had no idea
I haven't watched this yet but as a mixed girl from the UK I was convinced Pink was mixed as a kid. I feel so vindicated lol
I appreciate Nickolas' deadpan delivery.
Your videos deserve more exposure.
Thank you!
Facts
I’ve always wondered if Kanye’s ex Alexis Phifer was the true soul behind Kanye’s earlier brand of black centric music. I believe Alexis was sort of an activist from what I remember. And he switched up around the time his mother died and they broke up. Losing the only two connections to black women he had. And she’s also a fashion designer… so there’s that major influence.
I’ve always felt like Kanye doesn’t have original ideas. For as much as he likes to talk about being a free thinker. His conservatism doesn’t even resemble black conservatism. Not the traditional kind like Ben Carson. Or the Mano sphere kind. It sounds like white people. Like Caitlyn Jenners brand of conservativism. Keep in mind no one seems to talk about the fact Kanye has always used ghost writers. Or that he routinely also steals from smaller creators.
Maybe we have Kanye all wrong. maybe he’s not a radical thinker or even radically creative. the real Kanye is just the guy that’s always looking for someone else’s ideas. And had a good eye for it. And has always valued the rich white guys ideas more. I could be completely wrong about this. You are the research guy. This is just off the dome.
Producers and beat makers always know about the style thiefs and beat jackers. People outside of the niche don't seem to care. Timbaland and Dr. Dre also get away with it so easily.
You are wrong. And people always complain about culture vultures but his Takeover beat is literally just the Doors with a couple more drums. Just like Dr Dre’s California Love is just Joe Cocker. Google it. They’re the same songs. People need to complain less and create more.
@@oophorror2251 I’m trying to understand your point but im not getting all the context from your comment. You’re saying I’m wrong that he’s a vulture because I’m complaining that Kanye ripped off beats right?
For one, I didn’t actually call him a vulture in my comment. Because I don’t really know who is or isn’t. This video was compelling enough to make me on the side of he is one. But my comment was more about his politics. How the Kanye we love is really just a mirror of the black women in his life and their ideas. And in losing that source he lost his soul. And how his tendency to take styles from smaller creators hints at the type of personality that will also uncritically take political ideas from people around him.
And he stole shia labeouf style.
@@oophorror2251 are you really in this space trying to say that sampling is the same as stealing a song? Come on man this is like hip hop 101
madonna rapping will never stop dealing near lethal levels of psychic damage to me, holy fuck
I didn’t know the extent of mark wahlberg and John cenas chicanery and putting Kanye on this list is absolutely apt
WOW. I was absolutely not paying attention to any form of mainstream pop culture in the early-mid 2000s, so I just absolutely lost it at those photos of pop singer “rebrands”.
That one was a jump scare. Wow.
Did not know that that's how John Cena came up. I've always just known him as one of the pro-wrestlers turned action hero actor.
Post Malone is hilarious to me, no clue how anyone took it seriously. He was friends with Idubbz and lived with skydoesminecraft, y'all. He's been in their videos like how did anyone let him in lmfao
Need that part 2
i mean he loves alt rock Bands like Basement & Citizen and goes to their shows .He always had interest in typically White entertainment.
@@Fezaki I knew black fans of hip hop lost touch with reality when they praised a white boy with braids claiming to be iverson as the best song out atm…tragic.
i thought i dreamed post malone being a youtuber/being related to youtubers in some way for such a long time
It’s usually their handlers and labels who are in charge of image
I'll be honest, P!nk never wanted to be a RnB artist, that's what her label wanted, only reason she even had that album to begin with was because she used to be in an RnB girl group in the 90s before they found her. Everyone genuinely thought she was just light skinned, but she's really just versatile with her vocals, Honestly Kid Rock should be in the place of her segment.
Plus, ngl as a black person, I genuinely want her to make another RnB album, she killed it the first time, I bet she could do it again, RnB has been making a comeback recently.
John Cena. I mean. Finding fake and exploitation in wrestling is like going to a circus and finding clowns. I know people that said he’s a very nice guy though
Dude is a corporate created wrestling superstar... Everything about him is uninspiring... I like him but he is no way the legend people think him as now.
yeah for him he’s more tied to contract and corporate, he has to play the character assigned. which is why he was able to switch so easily when he did the all american shift. i see cena as more of an excaption but i get the critique
@@souvikdeb808no he’s not Lmao
Definitely looking forward to Gwen Stefani on the next installment of this
She vultured so hard people forgot No doubt was started by her brother and his black best friend.
@@theroyalcranethey weren’t even successful until her brother left to work on the Simpsons and she joined. Y’all are nuts. Collaborating with the Neptunes and 3stacks on a couple pop songs is not a culture vulture.
@@squarecymbals honestly i think gwen stefani was more of a vulture for japanese culture... Does anyone remember the harajuku girls?
Anyway Gwen's my no. 1
@@cinemachronic Bruh I forgot about that show.
No doubt was dope! And that feature with sublime was crazy!
I love your videos so much
Thank you!!!!
@@NickolasNameolas I can’t thank you enough. I’m in a real dark place right now and your videos give me a break from all my self loathing thought spirals to remember the rest of the world is horrible too.
The Redman rip was crazy I never noticed
Kid Rock would have fit in well too.
He’s so old people forget
He's not even from Detroit. He's from a suburb that's like 30 miles away. And his sister was in the movie D.E.B.S.
Justin Bieber and Gwen Stefany or with her name is too also Katy Perry sis some shit like that too
Dude grew up in poor Detroit and somehow is a good ole country boy 😂😂😂😂 gtfoh
Sweet Malcolm McLaren shoutout. I got 2 of his albums, Swamp Thing and Fans, in highschool at a used CD store then slowly learned about his life as a fashion designer and his work in the early punk scene. What a rad dude, what a rad reference. I never heard another person bring him up.
Also thank you for bringing up Larry Graham. Idk why that's not brought up constantly. I grew up a bass player and a degrassi fan and would bring that up as a fun fact all the time.
So we're blaming Pink for what her label wanted? Pink doesn't belong on this list. Kid Rock definitely does.
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Excellent video. This was a fun format and you were able to tie each entry into a wider theme very well.
Ngl I was today years old when I learned Timberland said "let me see what your twerkin' with" when this entire time I thought it was "let me see what your working with".🤦♀️
Fun fact, or not so fun fact actually, Madonna has also appropriated Jewish culture, saying she practices Jewish Mysticism, but is also a Christian...? She has a tattoo of the Kabbalistic Tree of Life. Tattoos are forbidden in Hasidic Judaism, aka contemporary Kabbalah. Girl is a melting pot of appropriation. Shes the living embodiment of the phrase, "oooh [foreign thing] is so exotic!"
James Franco’s character in spring breakers was actually based on a rapper from florida named dangeruss, weird dude who wasn’t really popular but everyone in the area knew who he was. He lives a couple houses down from me a few years ago and I’d see him every day, never ended up getting a picture with him though. I think he even had a song in the movie actually
Yeah, Dangeruss is in the movie, and that’s who Franco said he was based off of. But I never bought that for a second honestly. Alien looked and spoke like Riff Raff who called himself the Golden Alien. Dangeruss was about that life like Franco’s character though, can’t say the same for Riff Raff lol.
It’s interesting because though everyone here agrees many of y’all listened to and supported these folks
@kuvf9816 And the people who didn't? Not everyone has you know that right?
This was absolutely wonderful. I didn’t even know about half of these😂😂
Finally RUclips suggested a video that I haven’t watched before, that I actually want to watch. Yey! Had to comment to boost it on the algorithm
Keep up the great work! Also, love the shirt. 🤟🏽
Love this video. As an Eastern European who has never been to North America, I often feel disconnected from these important cultural conversations, so this was really eye-opening and refreshing. I didn’t even know about the Madonna thing, despite her music being popular here back in the day, which made me reflect on how Y2K culture often appropriated ethnic traditions, styles, and languages-mainly benefiting rich, white people from uptown commercial areas. It’s wild that Eastern Europeans adopted African-American vernacular despite having no significant Black community or history here, making us doubly disconnected while also benefiting from it in terms of cultural capital. It’s a bit upsetting. Also, your dry humor is hilarious. Subscribed!
great video, man. I'm very pleasantly surprised by the #1
12:45
Quelle Chris writes on Deathfame, "To get the party started, like Pink back when brothers thought she was mixed with something."
Just an aside since I have been grinding a few of his records..
Love Quelle Chris but don’t know that bar. Wish I had, I’d definitely have added it to the video.
as a fellow black man I appreciate your willingness to educate and express your thoughts and perspectives. I often find myself confused about my blackness and what it means to be a black man in this country. I definitely need to educate myself more, and i appreciate your help and eye opening commentary.
Always love your videos, happy to see you post a new video!
as a 2000s baby the John Cena reveal hurt ngl he seems like a genuine dude. Even watched his interview with Shannon Sharpe and liked it. I stg nothing is sacred in America...
Elvis, Kid Rock, Landon Romano, Tommy Hilfiger, Balenciaga, Jean Paul Gaultier.
Michael Rappaport, DJ Vlad, The Rolling Stones, Lyor Cohen, Iggy Azaelia, and all of the Kardashians.
Tommy Hilfiger was a victim of the vultures. He didn't like certain people wearing his clothes, they didn't care and wore it as their own.
The Hilfiger rebrand was so dastardly.
Lol the creator of this video obviously didn't mention Elvis, despite the popularity of saying he was a vulture, because unlike you he's actually educated and knows Elvis wasn't.
I like that you sound annoyed as hell
Heres a hot take: Dave Chappelle, not really calling him a "Culture Vulture" per se. But when he started in stand up he was your Basic Def Comedy Jam Comedian, but with the massive success of Chappelle's Show . You start to find out that he wasnt even FROM the HOOD ,like he claimed in a lot of his early stand up. You find out that he actually was middle class with very Distinguished Parents and went to of all things ,a PERFORMING ARTS school.and ironically, initially he really didnt stand out in the echelon of Black comics .nor really saying he was a Vulture, but he's a bit of A POSER.
Party In The USA wasn't just "written by a team of writers" but written by Jessie J who herself went on to profit off of black cultural elements herself with her lyrics and delivery on songs like Price Tag; "it ain't about the ba-bling ba-bling..."
Oh so just because I’m white but call my friends homie and use Bronx slang even though I’m from the suburbs and pick the flesh of the rotted bodies I find laying dead forgotten to time and sand alike in the desert sun , that makes me a vulture .
Do we all forget ol' Postie started his career out as a fucking Minecraft RUclipsr, and was best buds with Ethan Klein? Then suddenly became a rapper, and blew off all his old RUclips buddies like he's too good for it
Their not friends, they're cousins
I think P!nk being on this list is unfair. She's been very vocal on the label pushing her to crossover appeal.
Have some engagement, algorithm
edit: my god, that tired-ass Lemonjello joke... might as well have named herself "women be shoppin"
@@AnimusBehemoth enough time has passed that there are folks online who think Oranjello and Lemonjello were real people. Almost put it in the video but I don’t want it to spread 🤦🏿♂️
@@NickolasNameolas It's gone beyond hack jokes and into urban legend. There's Snopes pages on this. I remember in the late 90s variations of that "joke" were told to me as things that actually happened in America. I think it was "female" (feh-mah-lay) in my neck of the woods. And my neck of the woods is fucking Belgium, of all places. Suburban Flanders. We don't even really speak English here. That's how far these "jokes" traveled as fact on the early internet.
I laughed like a squeaky duck reading this 😂
Madonna’s VERY FIRST SONG!!! “Holiday”!!!! EVERYONE THOUGHT SHE WAS BLACK! I was in Kindergarten!
I think somebody called Madonna "the white Deniece Williams" back in those days.
Excited about this one!
Pink used to be invited to the BBQ now she might put raisins in the potato salad
Not gonna lie. There's a real Dolezal vibe from Christina Aguilera in the "Can't Hold Us Down" video.
If you’re making “I’m What the Culture Feeling” part 2 I’m gonna weep in joy
Really fun video, surprised not to see Jennifer Lopez playing the black latina from the bronx card.
Buying my 2 copy's of the Substitute as we speak 😂🤣📼📼
Gotta add Jenny from tha block (from the Bronx) to your next one.
Commenting just to boost this video. Great work
I don’t wanna say I give P!nk a pass for her R&B era but I am the most sympathetic towards her compared to everyone else on this list. If this list was ordered in severity I’d put her at 10 or even just an honorable mention
This video got me reevaluating how much smoke I should have for John Cena
@@squarecymbals wait, more smoke because he was so egregious with it? Or less smoke because he still bumps Black Moon? 😂
@@NickolasNameolas I guess more. I find his bumbling energy endearing but yes there's a certain minstrelsy to his early persona
I honestly feel bad that Pink always makes these lists because of the way her manager/label pushed her into it but it is what it is
would you mind elaborating on that? partly for my own curiosity, partly for that sweet sweet engagement
Her first album came out at the turn of the millennium and R&B was huge. So her label basically decided to present her as “racially ambiguous”. She dropped it with her second album because the label let her
L A Reid/Arista Records were huge in the RnB genre in the 1990s. When Reid "discovered" P!nk, he basically forced her to do an entire RnB album because she had the vocals for it, and there was money there. She fought the label the entire time the album was in production because it wasn't the kind of music she enjoyed making, and didn't get a chance to do the music she always wanted to do until her second album, which she wrote most of the songs for. She never wanted to be in the RnB space. Rather, she was forced there to make money for her label. Years later, Reid admitted that allowing her to take the risk to do her alt-pop-rock music on her second album was the best thing that could have happened because it turns out that ppl liked THAT album just as much as her debut.
Eh. John cena may be a culture vulture but Not a Bad one per say. You can tell he loves hip hop and He has a lot of knowledge.
Id say he and eddie haung are in a similar category
Are we gonna act like Hip Hop itself didn't become a mass consumed genre by the 90s? That when Spanish and Latino HipHop really took off as well
Lol Drake could say he's middle eastern and people would go with it
Well hes jewish so hes kind of middle eastern
@@vonelgamer3071 a lot of Jews were never from the middle east. Mostly converts. Like Bibi's family
Cant wait till part 2 featuring igloo Australia
"When the relay starts im a runnaway slave........MASSA" -👩
Not the worst, but I have an old, non American example of someone who got popular using black culture: Colette Magny, who got famous singing blues and jazz standards.
Now, I don't want to throw too much dirt at her (she was apparently a fervent activist against the Algerian War), but, again, it shows how deep this goes.
now that you say this, i guess there's lots of examples to draw on from outside north america
Seeing this and the influence of blues and jazz on certain genres, like cumbia and salsa, it's a little different because they were influenced by musicians that lived in NYC, and those genres themselves were popular and spread out elsewhere
Pink said that R&B wasn't the type of music she wanted to do. The industry was pushing her to do R&B.
I'd love to see a part 2!
I almost skipped this BECAUSE of the thumbnail! I was pleasantly surprised to see YOU! (Yes, I am subscribed but the thumbnail is everything)🤷🏾♀️.
I’m trying to juice the algorithm. Thumbnails are far and away the worst part of doing this for me and I want to hire someone to do it one day.
My IBS is already actin up and I'm not even halfway thru the video 💀
So it's literally painful to watch? 😭
jokes aside, I hope you're doing ok!
Nameolous is secretly the best Miley impersonator
Kanye's voice got higher as he got older
Signifier algorithm brought your video to me 👌🏾💪🏾
There's a trend of musicans who don't have the singing chops for pop getting into rap and then switching to pop when they get buzz and have drained what they need from rap.
This reminds me of how someone brought up the fact that words like "rizz" "tweaking" "cap" are called gen z slang when they all started from black spaces, and it feels so unnatural hearing it come from a person who clearly doesnt talk like that normally
@@marveler8994 don’t forget “gyat”
Lol even when it's "click bait," it's still super insightful 👌
New clickbait lookin fly!!
fr, everything is black culture according to this guy
Are you saying this list of people are not people that use black culture as a stepping stone for more money?
It worked for me😅
Ngl pink on the thumbnail made me click
@@devilsharvest4375I genuinely can’t stand how much you people don’t know anything about how our culture is 95% of American pop culture, because y’all just learn it from people you know who take it from us and call it their own. Y’all copy everything about us, and most of y’all know it. Y’all just refuse to believe that most of the slang y’all use, what you call internet talk, the music you love, is inspired by what our people created. Y’all just don’t give a crap, and always dismiss us, even though you can do research on your own. But you won’t. Because the thought of us being credited for literally all that we’ve done, upsets y’all. Y’all don’t track anything back to it’s roots when it’s us.
And here I thought you’d also place a whole genre (kpop) on the list lol but yeah, great vid
Haven't watched yet, but I know I want a sequel.
Oh wait for Drake to use and go meet his distant uncle, when he will enter his Disco/Funk phase 😂
How TF is Drake related to Larry Graham? Graham's a legend, Drake's got less musical talent than I have. Yeesh, money.
32:55 rings so much now with the Hawk-Tuah girl growing in presence. I thought it was funny, an odd moment caught on camera for us to laugh at, but the comparison with the “eyebrows on fleek” girl really signifies double standards to how we rise certain people up the point of a asinine podcast online for fuck all contributions.
People out here literally making a career out of using a racial slur. Its no longer shocking
Marky Mark looks so much like Jack Doherty and I cannot unsee it. And great list btw.
Drake dropping the Hard R will never stop being hilarious 😂
Bruh this list is 🔥
Well done!!!
Hey I remember said that talking about something negative might be your winning lottery ticket(At the end of the Joe Budden/Charlanage they not like us video on your channel) for your channel to get more views and intern you can eat of this but I think you are really good at this format as well and your research is off the fucking charts its insane, like wtf. Appreciate your videos man.
I thought I would’ve seen gwen stefani, but great video! You did a great job at pointing out the cynicism
That stripped album was was pretty damn good.
Edit:just finished and enjoyed so subbed
I didn’t know any of this about John Cena. He was not at all believable! It looks like some kind of a SNL skit. 😂
You forget Justin Timberlake
Nope