Very few people were. :P I'm one of the nolifes that has spent hours wandering around maps in private lobbies looking for things like that, but I don't imagine most people look at that and think "I can probably walk across that" - I sure didn't expect it, lol
"Wow I missed a lot of shots there" 7:33 Yeah.. well... that's me... all the time! Damn it.. this is my first FPS in 13+ years, last one was Unreal Tournament. I'm 37 years old, and I try, and try and try to get better, but I just fucking suck :D Ah well at least I've seen some slight improvements over the weeks, baby steps people, baby steps.
Don't worry, a lot of us have that. 26 here, haven't ever really stopped playing shooters but sometimes I go a few months without... same issue. Sometimes I'll do amazing, other times it'll be like ''dude... are you friggin' using an analog stick with aim-assist off or something'' >.
haha it's ok :) I'm following all the normal tips, practice range etc, so I AM making SOME improvement, but it feels like it goes slow :) I think I'll just blame the age at this point ;)
He said he won't. There are a ton of Genji guides out there. It doesn't have to come from the best Genji player. If you master all those guides, which is apparently what Seagull is, you'll get to that level of play. It's not about reading a guide and miraculous get good at Genji, it's about practice and hard work.
+Euphoric Dankey Kang I'm fairly sure he was relaying that info to other users who were wondering what part of the video you were referencing, not directed towards you. :^)
***** fuck you're not meant to know the meme Navmesh is the path that AI takes in a game, if you watch AI (say in csgo) you'll see that they all take the same path, and do not go another way. Each section of this "path" has this priority "ID", eg in csgo AI with snipers will take a path, and stay in a location suited for sniping.
That 'fuck, you're not meant to know the meme' sounds like your cover was blown by that guy, and you're some sort of spy. but actually you're just a 9 mana 5/9 c:
Yes. Yes it was xD even so, staying alive for 52 kills is pretty hard, and I checked the screenshots and I think only 33 of those kills were turret kills, the rest was me running in and killing people myself :P
Not saying your bad ( I don't know weather you are or aren't ) but if everyone keeps complaining about you it's more likely that everyone is right and you are wrong then everyone is wrong and you are right.
You ask if this was a scrim you didn't know about So, one of the guys on the other team, Steel, was a professional Counter-Strike player until he got banned for matchfixing, and resorted to Overwatch. He now mainly plays full lobbies with his team or friends who are really good, and he REALLY enjoys winning as he is known for his loud rages. He now plays professional Overwatch for Splyce. In fact, Steel puts in his title every stream "Not as good as Seagull". Seagull should know him but for those who didn't, have some facts.
Seagull, do you have all settings in medium for your pc or for something particular in your gameplay and gamestyle? By the way, amazing video as ever, cya!
funny things when watching your mccree video is, while most people may got 20+ kill with fan the hammer and/or deadeye, most of your kills comes from left clicking. maybe because i only met mcscrub because im a scrub myself.
I'm so glad you said to nerf Widow. For some reason people are in denial about her being OP, even though she's ALWAYS a must on a payload map. Something that is auto-include is most likely not very balanced (See: Doctor 7).
There's not really that much wrong with her sniper tbh. Okay maybe the 150 dmg needs to be reduced to 100 and she should be given a 3.0 crit multiplier so she still has that one-shot potential. Her biggest issue is that her assault rifle mode is so disgustingly strong as well.
What people really want is to not be afraid of Widow. But where does she stand when people don't have to worry about her? She's the only real sniper in the game. She might need tweaking, but outright nerfs? I don't know. Nerfing in this game causes a ripple effect. How many characters get closer to being counters? How much harder do her counters counter her? Widows have to aim. They don't get ults that kill the entire enemy team in 1 button. People just don't want to swap to her counters and they want to be able to kill her with their favorite character. She one shots Zen with a body shot. Is that a problem with Zen or with Widow? There are a lot of factors and Blizz has to be careful or they could easily ruin the character. I've seen heroes like Tracers and Reapers get close to 100 kills but never a Widow.
The problem is that if you compare Hanzo and Widow, Widow has always more potential to be more reliable than Hanzo due to her natural sniper abilities. But making her charge up time much faster than Hanzo's drawup on his bow is definitely a balance issue there.
+Musiczxczxc That quick sniping technique some people have down is pretty nuts. the farther out you are with Hanzo it gets increasingly more difficult so he should be rewarded with high damage, but widow doesn't have to worry about bullet drop and travel time. a small tweak to her charge time or damage depending on where she hits on the body could help.
5:03 Seagull I didn't know you were a time traveler. I'm from the future and they actually did Buff D.Va, change McCrees design to make him less of a "sniper" They did nerf Widows Quickscope mechanic, and they made Mercy less Res-reliant. O_o
I've noticed that even though my level is higher than yours, and my win rate is actually pretty high as well, the players at my MMR don't match up even close to yours. Did your MMR not reset when the beta reset happened, or are these closed pre-made games?
I'm not a pro or anything but I think in game knowledge and pattern recognition counts too. Seagull knows the players patterns and says it at various points of the video. So he is able to predict how characters will be played.
I'm pretty sure that there is some form of skill based matchmaking combined with whether you're in a group or not. They try to find the best matchup based on those two factors and since seagull+his team are professionals so they play against a lot of professionals
What do you mean when you say you're "line-of-sighting someone?" Does that just mean you can see them or is there some tactic it refers to using cover?
I assume you know by now but incase I'll explain anyway, mcrees ult locks onto anyone he sees for a oneshot kill after a second. Being line of sighted means the guy hide from seagulls line of sight and thus was dodging the ults lockon.
Do you set up custom games to play against people you know, or do you just happen to be thrown together with them because of the limited player pool at your MMR level?
He scrims a lot in custom games, hence his really low player level. He's also part of a pro team, and I think Steel (on the enemy team) is too, so this might have been one of those scrims. I think that if he went into regular queue, it'd just be a complete and utter stomp.
no becuase the MMR prevents him from playing people of a significantly lower skill level. It is completely feasible that he would play other pros in matchmaking due to the very limited amount of people at his skill level.
I need to start turning my sound up, I didn't hear a damn thing when the reaper was walking up on you a little after the minute mark. Seems like sound is critical in this game.
Widow is not OP in the beginner level of the game. But at the competitive level, skilled players who can land all their headshots, can wipe out the complete opponent with a widow maker. And she has no hard counter. That's why she's being considered op.
They should make it so that torbjorn's turret can only attack in a certain area, kinda like the turret in TF2, like how it can only attack in a cone radius
At 2:15 how did he walk on the ledge? I was trying to in a custom game but I couldn't get it to work. Has it been patched out or is it just very finicky?
2:15 was not aware you could walk across that X_X
Really though, I though he was about to jump off the map
Very few people were. :P I'm one of the nolifes that has spent hours wandering around maps in private lobbies looking for things like that, but I don't imagine most people look at that and think "I can probably walk across that" - I sure didn't expect it, lol
Does it still work?
I was, but last time I tried it was with Roadhog and didn't work (maybe he's too fat ^^)
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Interesting. I only tested it with normal-size characters.
If you love footsteps then you must hate Zenyatta...
lel
no
Zenyatta doesn't walk +1998SIMOMEGA, he floats
He can't stop saying that he's a vegan every 5 seconds.
U CAN GO ON THAT LEDGE WOT
Ikr
How do you even discover that kinda stuff
"i wonder if i can stand on that ledge... HOLY SHIT I CAN!"
You make a custom game and just walk around the map.
HOLY SH**
"Wow I missed a lot of shots there" 7:33 Yeah.. well... that's me... all the time! Damn it.. this is my first FPS in 13+ years, last one was Unreal Tournament. I'm 37 years old, and I try, and try and try to get better, but I just fucking suck :D Ah well at least I've seen some slight improvements over the weeks, baby steps people, baby steps.
it's all about persistence lmao
Unreal Tournament was the shit! so many memories.
Don't worry, a lot of us have that. 26 here, haven't ever really stopped playing shooters but sometimes I go a few months without... same issue. Sometimes I'll do amazing, other times it'll be like ''dude... are you friggin' using an analog stick with aim-assist off or something'' >.
28 year old here. Haven't played an FPS with a mouse since Doom and Heretic. Getting better (slowly) every day.
haha it's ok :) I'm following all the normal tips, practice range etc, so I AM making SOME improvement, but it feels like it goes slow :) I think I'll just blame the age at this point ;)
i love how in the suggestion bar there is a "50 eliminations - ranked bastion" and the video is less than half as long as this one.
Can you make a Genji guide ple
*pls
agreed
i think he said that he won't :/
He said he won't. There are a ton of Genji guides out there. It doesn't have to come from the best Genji player. If you master all those guides, which is apparently what Seagull is, you'll get to that level of play. It's not about reading a guide and miraculous get good at Genji, it's about practice and hard work.
Someone's salty. Pfft.
Wow... I had no idea you could walk the tiny lip on the outside of the building...
Seagull the type of nigga to peek a high noon and come out on top
See 12:17
Bela W Yeah, I watched the video...
+Euphoric Dankey Kang I'm fairly sure he was relaying that info to other users who were wondering what part of the video you were referencing, not directed towards you. :^)
Brandon Russell Well he replied directly to my comment, and nobody had asked. So...I doubt it.
:^)
Holy Shit, I didn't know that there is a navmesh at 2:15 on the edge.
Seagull, teaching you new things about Overwatch every day
Navmesh??? I dont think thats how you call that
Seagull is AI?
Navmesh is the path that AI takes...
*****
fuck you're not meant to know the meme
Navmesh is the path that AI takes in a game, if you watch AI (say in csgo) you'll see that they all take the same path, and do not go another way. Each section of this "path" has this priority "ID", eg in csgo AI with snipers will take a path, and stay in a location suited for sniping.
That 'fuck, you're not meant to know the meme' sounds like your cover was blown by that guy, and you're some sort of spy. but actually you're just a 9 mana 5/9 c:
I once went on a 52 kills, 0 deaths kill streak as Torbjorn 😂
Did you make that reddit post?
+Lambert the one with the Torbjorn guide? Yep that was me!
What you actually mean is that your turret got 50 kills and you got 2 ;)
That must have been a really shit enemy team
Yes. Yes it was xD even so, staying alive for 52 kills is pretty hard, and I checked the screenshots and I think only 33 of those kills were turret kills, the rest was me running in and killing people myself :P
Not sure is this guy's skill makes me want to practice more, or give up on the game.
Decisions decisions.
neither, have fun with the game
Hard to have fun when you suck as bad as I do.
The Squig blizzard made hereos for you and me, tobjorn, bastion, symmetra, mercy, lucio, really there is no excuse
beto encinas I only play Mercy.
Still suck.
+The Squig is it even possible to suck with mercy?
Who needs aimbot if you've got Seagull
it's on pc so of course the aiming will be much better and easier
Yeah, just try to get his accuracy. Even on pc it's absolutely crazy
+That One Guy not so easy as you think.
Legend has it the first aimbot was modeled after Seagull's aim... lol
2:15 wtf :d. I didn't know that even I get level over 100.
learn sth new everyday :D
I thought wtf are you doing when he jumped, then I realised never doubt seagull.
I forgot how overpowered McCree's Fan the Hammer was. Watching him shred people with it brings back rage inducing memories.
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Wow, I think that's the first video that i watched where he didn't get play of the game. Thanks for posting these on yt, always happy to see them
you're a beast, im so glad i found you because i get motivated a lot to improve :) maybe onde day i'll get close to your level
Wow, these games have so nice people playing. 2/3 of the games I play are full of salty brats who just insult everyone on their team.
premade teams my dude
+Mr.Awesome no he's saying that's why it's nice cus it's pre made teams
Not saying your bad ( I don't know weather you are or aren't ) but if everyone keeps complaining about you it's more likely that everyone is right and you are wrong then everyone is wrong and you are right.
It's weird seeing this older gameplay. Everything's played so chaotically, even compared to soloque no limits now.
You ask if this was a scrim you didn't know about
So, one of the guys on the other team, Steel, was a professional Counter-Strike player until he got banned for matchfixing, and resorted to Overwatch. He now mainly plays full lobbies with his team or friends who are really good, and he REALLY enjoys winning as he is known for his loud rages. He now plays professional Overwatch for Splyce. In fact, Steel puts in his title every stream "Not as good as Seagull". Seagull should know him but for those who didn't, have some facts.
Seagull, do you have all settings in medium for your pc or for something particular in your gameplay and gamestyle? By the way, amazing video as ever, cya!
WTH that ledge-walk Õ_ó I learn more by watching Seagull than most others, holy hell.
Did Tracer shoot the basketball through the door at 5:10??
2:14 WAIT??? you can walk on that?!
I was thinking the same thing
normal sized characters yes, winston reinhardt etc no
Do you challenge me? I'm going to cross that shit with Reinhardt. DANCING.
Wasn't there a Mccree nerf shortly after this?
Yes
Dude, you need more subscribers. Your amazing!
Seagull the type of guy to do an Overwatch Q&A because I am asking kindly.
funny things when watching your mccree video is, while most people may got 20+ kill with fan the hammer and/or deadeye, most of your kills comes from left clicking. maybe because i only met mcscrub because im a scrub myself.
Most McCree's are left clicking tbh.
***** Idk what MMR you're playing at bro..xD Even when I queue with friends who are low-mid MMR a lot of McCree's are playing normally.
1998SIMOMEGA ur
"junkrat needs a buff"
4:17
I'm so glad you said to nerf Widow. For some reason people are in denial about her being OP, even though she's ALWAYS a must on a payload map. Something that is auto-include is most likely not very balanced (See: Doctor 7).
Ye she is a bit too good. But snipers will always be amazing when people get good with them. The one shot potential makes then so powerful
There's not really that much wrong with her sniper tbh. Okay maybe the 150 dmg needs to be reduced to 100 and she should be given a 3.0 crit multiplier so she still has that one-shot potential. Her biggest issue is that her assault rifle mode is so disgustingly strong as well.
What people really want is to not be afraid of Widow. But where does she stand when people don't have to worry about her? She's the only real sniper in the game. She might need tweaking, but outright nerfs? I don't know. Nerfing in this game causes a ripple effect. How many characters get closer to being counters? How much harder do her counters counter her? Widows have to aim. They don't get ults that kill the entire enemy team in 1 button. People just don't want to swap to her counters and they want to be able to kill her with their favorite character. She one shots Zen with a body shot. Is that a problem with Zen or with Widow? There are a lot of factors and Blizz has to be careful or they could easily ruin the character. I've seen heroes like Tracers and Reapers get close to 100 kills but never a Widow.
The problem is that if you compare Hanzo and Widow, Widow has always more potential to be more reliable than Hanzo due to her natural sniper abilities. But making her charge up time much faster than Hanzo's drawup on his bow is definitely a balance issue there.
+Musiczxczxc That quick sniping technique some people have down is pretty nuts. the farther out you are with Hanzo it gets increasingly more difficult so he should be rewarded with high damage, but widow doesn't have to worry about bullet drop and travel time. a small tweak to her charge time or damage depending on where she hits on the body could help.
Holy!!! 1:15 you freaking heard him~! OMG!
That match was hype *thumbs up*
What is that thing that makes the numbers look better
"so close the 50 elims" - mccree in the thumbnail
seems about right
yep, no need to watch the video
But he doesnt spam the right click on every kill
haha really happy to see Mccree video uploaded. hope you keep uploading
3:22 i put that on slow motion and how did the skull just disappear like that?
5:03 Seagull I didn't know you were a time traveler. I'm from the future and they actually did Buff D.Va, change McCrees design to make him less of a "sniper" They did nerf Widows Quickscope mechanic, and they made Mercy less Res-reliant. O_o
What design changes would you want for McCree?
You mentioned you'd like his design changed.
Did you mean you'd like another skin, or?
13:35
Anyone notice the magic tumbleweed?
It's not magic, McCree just keeps a bunch of tumbleweed in his pants.
What gaming mouse are you using man? And do you use a mousepad?
"Reaper?"
"I heard you,where you at?"
"Left?"
DEATH COMES
Oh man, the days of 2 lucibros.
How do you do the reload trick in 1:18 ?
3:25 "Happens to the best of us"
2:28 I feel the source engine emitting from my monitor
Further proof that Seagull kicks ass with or without pocket medic.
I've noticed that even though my level is higher than yours, and my win rate is actually pretty high as well, the players at my MMR don't match up even close to yours. Did your MMR not reset when the beta reset happened, or are these closed pre-made games?
any tips on how to improve your aim? or does it just come with time
Good posture, good setup, practicing efficiently etc.
I'm not a pro or anything but I think in game knowledge and pattern recognition counts too. Seagull knows the players patterns and says it at various points of the video. So he is able to predict how characters will be played.
1:15 was incredible
Is this still gameplay from the beta?
Also what are your fallback heroes for offense defense tank and support
Is that steel, the ex-IBP player?
no
yes
Maybe
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Yea he is an overwatch pro now because he isnt allowed to play cs anymore...
Didn't you upload the game a month ago? :D
I like these longer vids please upload more!
is this before or after the nerf
What is he using to have that target reticle in the center of his display?
"Thats a random right click"-Seagull 2016
What's the most eliminations he has ever gotten in a match? I once got 60 eliminations / 46 objective eliminations on Junkrat. :)
That Junkrat was owning you.
how do you guys always end up in games with other pros? are they on friends lists or are you all just so good you always get matchmakered together
I'm pretty sure that there is some form of skill based matchmaking combined with whether you're in a group or not. They try to find the best matchup based on those two factors and since seagull+his team are professionals so they play against a lot of professionals
it's because they played in the close beta
The MMR from closed beta stayed
mmr based matchmaking
+ponder whats mmr?
13:38
That sure is a *High* Noon
I'll show myself out
why is Renbot playing Genji did the group ban Reinhardt from him?
Is the steel in the enemy team josh nissan?
oops he is
The game looks like so much fun when you're capable of hitting people on something other than Pharah or Junkrat.
is ranked out already?
What do you mean when you say you're "line-of-sighting someone?" Does that just mean you can see them or is there some tactic it refers to using cover?
I assume you know by now but incase I'll explain anyway, mcrees ult locks onto anyone he sees for a oneshot kill after a second. Being line of sighted means the guy hide from seagulls line of sight and thus was dodging the ults lockon.
Oh, duh. Thanks, haha, wasn't thinking about his ult.
"lets see if i can get a random kill here at this weird angle" *gets triple kill
Do you set up custom games to play against people you know, or do you just happen to be thrown together with them because of the limited player pool at your MMR level?
He scrims a lot in custom games, hence his really low player level.
He's also part of a pro team, and I think Steel (on the enemy team) is too, so this might have been one of those scrims.
I think that if he went into regular queue, it'd just be a complete and utter stomp.
no becuase the MMR prevents him from playing people of a significantly lower skill level. It is completely feasible that he would play other pros in matchmaking due to the very limited amount of people at his skill level.
wow its crazy how much the game has changed lol
I need to start turning my sound up, I didn't hear a damn thing when the reaper was walking up on you a little after the minute mark. Seems like sound is critical in this game.
Seagull I need to know your dpi and ingame mouse sensitivity! :(
I think its 1600dpi and 4 ingame sensitivity.
sry if this has been answered,, but does seagull use the dolby atmos thingy?
I'm pretty sure he doesn't use it.
yes he mentioned that he uses it all the time (like in this video when he said he heard reaper in mid)
It only helps if you're using regular ol' stereo headphones, if you use any that have a built-in surround feature (or speakers) then its of no use.
Yooo that little ledge on the outskirts if the map is legit
the accuracy on this guy ... insane
how do you get your reticle to just be a dot?
go to controls and there's an option for reticles. if you want it to be hero specific there's an option for that as well
What mouse does seagull use?
zowie za12
+Apostolos Piperis that's the confirmation I wanted. Thanks!
Got 49 eliminations as Tracer in beta in this gamemode too
Could you tell us you're mouse sensitivity ?
Damn 90 ping and the game still works this good for you?
My ping is 12 and the cornershotting is insane.
I got 65 elims once. Was a really insane match, each round went into overtime for a few minutes. Alternated between Soldier, D.va, and Winston
can you make like a genji guide? :o
is this pre or post nerf mcree?
Alex Steel Pre-nerf
1:12 that was so pro I shit my pants
Who was that Junkrat on the other team holy shit.
How is widow op? I suck with her so I wouldn't know... Can someone explain it to me?
She can deal ALOT of damage and her charges are really fast.
her damage is really high
if your a really good sniper shes extremely op
Widow is not OP in the beginner level of the game. But at the competitive level, skilled players who can land all their headshots, can wipe out the complete opponent with a widow maker. And she has no hard counter. That's why she's being considered op.
+Sourav Kar exactly
I got 45 eliminations with Zarya in this gamemode when it went round 3.
My most is 39 with Zarya :)
People bragging about Zarya kills, smh
+Euphoric Dankey Kang I'm not bragging at all. I know it's pretty easy to get a lot of kills with Zarya, just like any other character.
It's not bragging if you can back it up.
Just a joke, lol.
+zarya has stupid high dps for a character that can just w+m1 into the enemy line.
you're Awesome at this game!!!
Wtf i had no idea you could walk on that outside ledge
Do the lucio heal/speed boosts stack if theres more than one of them active?
They don't stack
the heal does, but the movement stays the same.
+PatrioT6611 this is wrong, they don't stack.
Goddamn flash/fan combo is so OP.. melts tanks.. Doesn't even need to hit all of them.
When I learned McBalanced's weapon was hitscan I suddenly started getting a lot more eliminations too... :x
wishing they would buff d va so much
They should make it so that torbjorn's turret can only attack in a certain area, kinda like the turret in TF2, like how it can only attack in a cone radius
I LOVE YOU SEAGULL
sick plays
I got 50 with Tracer! Haha good games Seagull!
Same here went 50/10 with tracer and bit of McCree and lost lol
+tmanx8 50/10 Tracer too
16 min of seagull :33333
Seagull you should add your RUclips and Twitter info on your overlay.
I went 48 Frags, same mode, same map with Hanzo and was pissed
cuz I used ult when round ended and I heard 2-3 ppl dying while the screen faded out :(
Yea ive had that happen
At 2:15 how did he walk on the ledge? I was trying to in a custom game but I couldn't get it to work. Has it been patched out or is it just very finicky?
Apparently it's been patched.
what is cowboys ult?
What mouse does he use?