Kevin O'Connell thinks the Vikings still haven't played a COMPLETE game yet | The Pat McAfee Show

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  • Опубликовано: 24 ноя 2024

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  • @Asgard2208
    @Asgard2208 2 дня назад +60

    It's nice that Pat and crew are really the only media that gives the Vikings a fair slice and dice. Kudos, Pat!

    • @jacobsoto4135
      @jacobsoto4135 День назад +1

      True

    • @JimMork-r9u
      @JimMork-r9u 14 часов назад

      @@jacobsoto4135 Really? You don't listen to Mike Florio?

    • @stevemcfly97
      @stevemcfly97 14 часов назад

      @@JimMork-r9uHA

    • @jacobsoto4135
      @jacobsoto4135 14 часов назад

      @@JimMork-r9u I don’t listen to sportscasters they all show bias towards something for ratings. There is no true sportscaster everyone has a bias opinion about something

    • @JimMork-r9u
      @JimMork-r9u 13 часов назад

      @@stevemcfly97 Not sure if that's saying Mike Florio does not tout the team?

  • @MichaelRucker-ns5po
    @MichaelRucker-ns5po 3 дня назад +207

    Underrated team. Underrated roster. Can't wait for JJ McCarthy next season

    • @otero3rdRD
      @otero3rdRD 3 дня назад +4

      Me too!

    • @JcMann-o5i
      @JcMann-o5i 3 дня назад +6

      Enjoy the moment

    • @robe2504
      @robe2504 3 дня назад +5

      Might have to. Pre-season KOC indicated plan was to maybe start him mid-year depending on JJ's progress and Sam's performance. JJ has lost the season, so he might not be ready until mid-2025. I think we might see Sam again at the start of next season. I'm assuming Sam plays even better as the season progresses and the scheme becomes even more intuitive.

    • @MichaelRucker-ns5po
      @MichaelRucker-ns5po 3 дня назад +1

      @ no rebuttal from me, I agree. JJ can start Mid season and maybe we can flip Darnold to a QB needy team at the deadline next season.

    • @robe2504
      @robe2504 3 дня назад +3

      @@MichaelRucker-ns5po That's what I'm hoping. Sam could be worth a few decent picks.
      Most people have probably forgotten that the Panthers gave up a 4th, 2nd & 6th to get him from the Jets. He should be worth more than that now.
      Sam is younger than Joe Burrow...

  • @donowen5889
    @donowen5889 3 дня назад +106

    These comments are brutal but real fans know what you got left with. No culture, overpaid talent. Those thing sometimes take 5-10 years to build. You did it in two. KOC is the best fit for Minnesota. Skol 💜💛

    • @billhicks808
      @billhicks808 3 дня назад +9

      Bingo

    • @trevortomberlin7322
      @trevortomberlin7322 3 дня назад +2

      Hes got rlthis team winning and from what i see and hear is the tean culture under him is very very good. Ibwish this guy great success with the Vikings.

    • @manveergill7539
      @manveergill7539 3 дня назад +1

      Well🫡 Said😈FAM💜💛💭🥂🙌🏻😏

    • @robe2504
      @robe2504 3 дня назад +6

      No cap space either. Kwesi has played a big role too. They're a great team, with Flores, McCardell, Daniels. McCown and others.

    • @MichaelRucker-ns5po
      @MichaelRucker-ns5po 2 дня назад +2

      @@donowen5889 facts. Kwesi has cooked in free agency as well as set us up with cap room

  • @forestspiritsforaging
    @forestspiritsforaging 3 дня назад +111

    This guy has gone 17-8 with an overpaid, overrated Kirk Cousins. Who is .500 in his career with every other coach & team. Most impressively hes 11-8 in tge f*cking NFL with Josh Dobbs, Nick Mullins, Jarren Hall & Sam Darnold. Any criticism towards this guy is extremely misguided. They're building something special & just wait until JJ McCarthy is ready. He'll be 22 years old when he takes over next year.

    • @m.iramiles9310
      @m.iramiles9310 3 дня назад +4

      Darnold was picked No. 3 overall for reasons. Then the Jets tried to wreck him. Don't be lumping him in with players nobody ever expected anything from.

    • @forestspiritsforaging
      @forestspiritsforaging 3 дня назад +20

      @m.iramiles9310 Bud, the point is it took KOC to get him right. Also, 90% of people online laughed at the Vikings in the off-season when they signed Darnold. I was telling everyone you're going to see a different Darnold than you've ever seen. Now watch what happens when he signs somewhere else next year. He's not going to be the guy you're watching this year. The entire point is that KOC is a rare coach in this league & in my humble opinion him & JJ McCarthy are going to get the Vikings a Superbowl if not multiple.

    • @nafolktales
      @nafolktales 2 дня назад +3

      You sound like a guy named Mackey.

    • @purplepainforums
      @purplepainforums 2 дня назад

      They're building something special with what? Kwesi has only hit on 1 draft pick in 3 years. The pantry is bare, and we're already the oldest team in the league. KOC is not the QB whisperer everyone thinks he is, so McCarthy will be an average at best QB.

    • @brettfour4694
      @brettfour4694 2 дня назад +4

      @@purplepainforumsThey have a complete roster and will about to have like 100million to spend in free agency with no big expiring contracts to further help McCarthy succeed.

  • @jaymapp21
    @jaymapp21 2 дня назад +25

    Very well coached team. Always prepared. Winning all 3 this year. Offense, Defense, and Special teams. The Defense is Special and can travel and win on the road.

  • @scottgarvey3112
    @scottgarvey3112 2 дня назад +14

    JJ was never the starter! I don’t get why everyone thinks he was. Sam was the guy from day 1. Maybe JJ could have supplanted Sam at some point, but no way KOC was starting JJ week 1. Pretty sure he’s already said this

    • @robe2504
      @robe2504 2 дня назад

      You're 100% correct. I'm not confident that JJ starts week 1 next season either, probably just before the trade deadline...

  • @AndrewZajac-n4t
    @AndrewZajac-n4t 2 дня назад +15

    If we win the sb, there will be a movie about Darnolds career

  • @1999braves
    @1999braves 3 дня назад +30

    Minnesota is cold because: because it’s so far up north (duh) and the state has 3 different weather fronts that all intersect over directly over Minnesota.

    • @TheStereoField
      @TheStereoField 3 дня назад +3

      North Dakota is even colder!

    • @JNorick
      @JNorick 2 дня назад +3

      @@TheStereoField on average yes, however, Minnesota has more -50 days on record. especially along the north shore

    • @Scott7137
      @Scott7137 2 дня назад +4

      It's cold because it's land-locked. It's in the center of the country and far away from both oceans. Cold air pools over land and sinks down from Canada.

    • @15jtbball
      @15jtbball День назад +1

      @@TheStereoField Part of the perception is because Minneapolis is the coldest major city in the US since Fargo is generally not considered a “Major US City.”

    • @JNorick
      @JNorick 23 часа назад +1

      @@15jtbball Duluth is colder than Fargo

  • @mr.fibonacci6292
    @mr.fibonacci6292 3 дня назад +21

    LOVE KOC. He should get coach of the year hands down. Look at what he’s done with Sam Darnold a certified “washed up” guy.. If O’connell had an elite QB they’d be 10-

    • @CodyHalvorson82nd
      @CodyHalvorson82nd 2 дня назад

      He lost his chance getting coach of the year, they favor first year head coaches

  • @clintonreisig
    @clintonreisig 2 дня назад +7

    Vikings have a Super Bowl worthy coaching staff and owners. KOC is in the early conversation for Coach Of The Year

  • @otero3rdRD
    @otero3rdRD 3 дня назад +6

    Great interview 😊😊

  • @ryanschultz4119
    @ryanschultz4119 2 дня назад +5

    What makes this Vikings team dangerous should they make the playoffs. Is the defense, and Justin Jefferson! That, and Sam Darnold now has his full compliment of weapons. With Hockenson playing his way into shape. Everyone is glossing the Lions. But if Addison runs the right route on 3rd & 4. Minnesota runs victory formation on them.

  • @Bugaloo44
    @Bugaloo44 3 дня назад +14

    With the talent on offense Vikings are supposed to be scoring 30points a game. But the defense is really the strong suit of this team BIG S/O to Brian Flores for really making something out of nothing. He has players like van ginkle, Johnathan greenard, and Pat Jones having career years.

    • @robe2504
      @robe2504 3 дня назад +7

      It's easy to forget that Sam has only had 10 games in this scheme, and has only had 4 weeks of practice with TJ, and missed 6 weeks of work with Addison early too. Plus integrating both Cams on the fly. I think we'll see this offence continue to grow from week to week.

    • @TheWongagy
      @TheWongagy 2 дня назад +2

      Hard to score 30pts a game with a first year qb. It almost never happens.

  • @seewise6383
    @seewise6383 3 дня назад +10

    I don't even like your show, but O'Connell is a sneaky great leader & I think his players can relate to him. (it seems). Good on ya' .

    • @ChiefBeef7
      @ChiefBeef7 12 часов назад

      Why the random hate lol

    • @seewise6383
      @seewise6383 10 часов назад

      @ no hate, just don’t care for the show usually.

  • @vaughnbraun
    @vaughnbraun 2 дня назад +3

    Minneapolis is further north than Toronto

  • @alecrechtiene558
    @alecrechtiene558 День назад +1

    Being 8-2 and KOC saying they still haven’t played a complete game should scare other teams.

  • @Hammer0117
    @Hammer0117 2 дня назад +2

    Skyways - the technical term four hour tunnels that connect our buildings downtown.

  • @m.iramiles9310
    @m.iramiles9310 3 дня назад +6

    Somebody should ask DeMeco Ryans if he thinks the Vikings have played "a complete game" this year. Gmafb

    • @That85Scorpio
      @That85Scorpio 2 дня назад

      Ok, so what's the Vikings offensive identity then?

  • @brennanshrider65
    @brennanshrider65 2 дня назад +9

    Vikings gotta rotate Aaron in and out more if we want to keep him healthy

    • @hydraco.9423
      @hydraco.9423 2 дня назад +6

      Agreed, Cam has done well when Aaron's is on the side line.

  • @jeremypikula1017
    @jeremypikula1017 2 дня назад +4

    Pay Flores like head coach or he’s gone

  • @Demonicon
    @Demonicon 2 дня назад +3

    KOC putting that football there. Chess not checkers. LOL

  • @nortonbrandon6176
    @nortonbrandon6176 2 дня назад +1

    Lets GO!!!!! KO!!!!!

  • @MaxxRutchick
    @MaxxRutchick 2 дня назад +3

    but they can’t even be talked about on NFL live over the Rams

  • @Guspresto
    @Guspresto 16 часов назад

    Literally the ONLY show that even mentions the Vikings. It’s the most bizarre thing I’ve ever seen. Orlavsky had 4 teams as a threat in the nfc to the lions, and not Vikings. Meanwhile the Vikings already played the lions to a fking draw, and beat the packers in lambeau. It’s WILD

    • @dalelange845
      @dalelange845 12 часов назад

      Yeah, that's a "head scratcher" all right.

  • @CodyHalvorson82nd
    @CodyHalvorson82nd 2 дня назад +2

    I’d be surprised if we bring Darnold back but he definitely will get payed a lot more by someone after this year

    • @robe2504
      @robe2504 2 дня назад

      Why? KOC has turned him into a trade asset. Why would you give that away by letting him walk? Extending him gives KOC options and insurance for when to start JJ. Having him under contract means that Kwesi can trade him for maximum draft capital when the time is right.

    • @colin6603
      @colin6603 День назад

      @@robe2504darnold is on a one year deal and can’t be traded. Teams will wait till free agency begins and try to sign him.

    • @robe2504
      @robe2504 День назад +1

      @@colin6603 Incorrect. Of course he can. Kwesi just needs to extend him, or exercise the franchise tag, and then he can be traded anytime.
      I don't know folks are assuming that Sam won't be extended. KOC has developed Sam into a valuable asset. Kwesi is literally a former Wall St trader, and I doubt he will want to just give an asset away.
      1. If the Vikes let Sam walk in FA, because they will probably be net buyers in FA, and not qualify for any Comp picks, they'll get nothing.
      2. There is uncertainty over whether JJ will be ready for week 1, 2025. They likely need a similar bridge/contingency plan like Sam next year anyway.
      3. Sam will likely be worth multiple top 100 draft picks which should be worth more than an extension will cost. The Panthers gave up a 4th, 2nd & 6th to acquire Sam from the Jets. He is likely worth more than that now.
      4. Assuming Sam is traded in 2025 or 2026, the acquiring team would pick up the balance owing of Sam's contract, so the actual cost of an extension will likely be about half the perceived, or reported cost.

    • @Deadly_Ricardo_67
      @Deadly_Ricardo_67 День назад

      @@robe2504ur delusional bud. Darnold isn’t the future. It’s jj mccarthy. Only way darnold comes back is if the Vikings win a Super Bowl which isn’t likely

    • @robe2504
      @robe2504 День назад

      @@Deadly_Ricardo_67 Dude, at no point did I ever state that Darnold was the future.
      I'd suggest you read what I wrote but it seems you're too f*ckin illiterate for that.
      So from your answer I guess:
      1. You'd be happy to see Mullens start next season, if JJ isn't ready.
      2. You'd be happier to give Darnold away for nothing, than to trade him for a 4th, 2nd and 6th like the Jets did.
      You Americans are dumb as rocks.

  • @darksoulquis5643
    @darksoulquis5643 3 дня назад +4

    The underdogs

  • @MNWILD43
    @MNWILD43 День назад

    I hope Harry comes back for at least one more year. Harry doesn't slow down.

  • @Slakkeastwood409
    @Slakkeastwood409 2 дня назад

    Freakin love chuck

  • @nenkuthao5534
    @nenkuthao5534 3 дня назад +6

    It's cold in Minnesota due to the 10k lakes. It's colder in Duluth, MN, because it's higher in the north and lake Superior

    • @2badmofo257
      @2badmofo257 3 дня назад

      I'm thinking 145 miles north of the cities and lake superior have a bit more effect than elevation..probably

    • @TheStereoField
      @TheStereoField 3 дня назад

      @@2badmofo257uhh there’s no elevation in Minnesota

    • @sle7en49
      @sle7en49 2 дня назад

      Nope

    • @bhoutdoors507
      @bhoutdoors507 2 дня назад +1

      Duluth is warmer on average because water holds heat better than soil. It’s also cooler on average in summer for the same reason. Lake Superior moderates temperatures.

    • @AndrewZajac-n4t
      @AndrewZajac-n4t 2 дня назад

      @@bhoutdoors507 thank you for listening in school lol.

  • @JNorick
    @JNorick 3 дня назад +3

    ALL HAIL FLO

  • @Durrtlett9797
    @Durrtlett9797 2 дня назад

    He may be a former player, but he's a current playa

  • @hoople0320
    @hoople0320 2 дня назад +1

    No doubt the viking haven't put together a complete game not close....maybe it's the nice guy culture holding them back

  • @purplepainforums
    @purplepainforums 2 дня назад +2

    KOC has been saying that since 2022. And he's right, the Vikings have disappeared for at least 2 quarters every game in the KOC era, and he still brings it up. How bout you stop acknowledging what all of us already know, and fix it? Fix it Mr. Culture. He's starting to sound like Leslie "we gotta look at the tape" Frazier.

    • @robe2504
      @robe2504 2 дня назад

      Jeez you are a sad unit. The team is 8-2. 26 other fan bases would love to be enjoying their season this much, but you're whining like an 11 year old girl...

  • @DRE383
    @DRE383 2 дня назад +1

    the plains effect...it blows

  • @bobcole8137
    @bobcole8137 2 дня назад

    To many ugly wins started out blowing out teams but letting them back in the game sorry to say it they won't far😊far if they make it to the playoffs

  • @chadharris7988
    @chadharris7988 12 часов назад

    Stick to rapping 🤣🤣🤣

  • @karengates5321
    @karengates5321 2 дня назад

    Love KOC’s coaching but not his mustache and chin thing.

  • @BertFurfull
    @BertFurfull 3 дня назад +3

    Let's be honest, the Defense account for at least 4 wins this year when the offense was pissing down it's leg . Pat, think of MN as Canada's Mexico 😂

    • @robe2504
      @robe2504 3 дня назад +3

      Huh? Sam has had 2 off games, vs the Jets and Jags, and the Vikes won both of them. The D struggled the Packers 2nd half, Lions and Rams. The Vikes lost 2 of those. It's a good team all round. Everyone has their off days, but as the byline says - they have yet to play a complete game. That seems logical. It has only been 11 weeks since Sam had his first game in this scheme and with these playmakers, and 7-10 of the defensive rotation had never played together. It's a very new team. Some folks haven't recognised that.

    • @JamesWhite-qk1xd
      @JamesWhite-qk1xd 2 дня назад

      @@robe2504 I'd Say 2.5 bad games, first half against the colts was rough, but I agree that his best football is ahead of him

    • @TillerG7
      @TillerG7 13 часов назад

      Offense wins games.
      Defense wins championships.

  • @AABrawn
    @AABrawn 3 дня назад

    14:35 “Gay-O-C” 😂😂

  • @davidwaynebackstrom-DW
    @davidwaynebackstrom-DW 15 часов назад

    …love KOC, yeah but these dudes have garbage mouths, they clearly are football smart yet lacking in just basic moral character…

  • @BK12344
    @BK12344 3 дня назад +4

    we are overrated at 8-2, im used to this. as usual we will be a one and done team depending on who we play in RD 1. defense needs work still our schedule is easy and we almost lost to the jags, imagine tht. and offense cant finish or keep up momentum. its annoying to watch. We're 8-2 and no one is really talking about us being a real threat to the top teams, they dont even consider us a top team thts how u know the respect isn't there.

    • @jaredpribyl
      @jaredpribyl 2 дня назад +2

      Lol one of their 2 losses was to the supposedly best team in the league on a last second field goal. They can compete with anybody. Just stop watching, if u even were anyway. We should say Detroit is overrated too bc of their fluke win against the Texans when Goff threw 5 interceptions.

    • @Deadly_Ricardo_67
      @Deadly_Ricardo_67 День назад

      Ok couch gm

    • @BK12344
      @BK12344 День назад

      @ thts we all are on the internet so thank 😊🫵🏽🤷🏽

  • @Aeis77
    @Aeis77 2 дня назад

    He says that every fricken' season though. He has been here for years, if your team can never put together a complete game that's really on you at some point.

    • @jamespratt7526
      @jamespratt7526 2 дня назад +1

      Not really. The first year the defence was absolute trash and precluded complete games as a result.
      The last couple seasons the complete games have been stymied by quarterback play which, again, is outside of KOCs control
      This team would have had multiple complete games this season with a top half QB. And frankly it arguably has had complete games (SF, Houston spring to mind) but KOC doesn’t want to call them such so his players don’t get complacent

    • @chandlertrout1637
      @chandlertrout1637 2 дня назад +2

      What? The chase of perfection is something that is rarely, if ever achieved. Most Super Bowl champion teams did not play a perfect game.

    • @patrickcurran9318
      @patrickcurran9318 2 дня назад

      Check out the dead cap hit this year, and available cap next year. You seem uninformed.

    • @DarcyFuhrman
      @DarcyFuhrman День назад

      Absurd statement award! Congratulations!

    • @Johnhargrove18
      @Johnhargrove18 День назад

      @@jamespratt7526you do know blowouts happen every week right , the panthers have one for Christ sake. Get real.

  • @MrCook-dz6gj
    @MrCook-dz6gj 3 дня назад +1

    Sam is not the guy, I hope the Vikings don't extend him. Really would've rather they drafted Penix over McCarthy. Wasting talent with MID QBs is such a Vikings thing to do 😐😂

    • @Bigbackkronk
      @Bigbackkronk 3 дня назад +9

      I don’t know why people think there’s a chance the Vikings resign Darnold. It has been clear from day 1 that he’s here to be a bridge QB for a season. He will go on to sign a multi year contract elsewhere.
      And how were they supposed to take Penix over McCarthy when he was gone before they were ever on the clock?

    • @MrCook-dz6gj
      @MrCook-dz6gj 3 дня назад +1

      @UNCtarheels71 they could've traded up....🤔 Darnold shouldn't have even been on the roster. Fields, Wilson and Winston were all available and are better "bridges".

    • @Bigbackkronk
      @Bigbackkronk 3 дня назад +7

      @@MrCook-dz6gj …Dude they did try to trade up. Lol people say this like it’s only up to the Vikings but shockingly the other team has to agree to the trade too. They offered the Patriots 3 first round picks to try get Drake Maye and that didn’t work. Tf else are they supposed to do?
      And you’re objectively wrong about Fields, Wilson, and Winston being better bridges. Sorry but you don’t know ball if this is your take. Those QBs would never operate well in KOC’s offensive system. Winston has a very chaotic play style that would have drove KOC up a wall, Wilson virtually never throws in the middle of the field and KOC frequently has receivers running crossing routes. Pay attention to where Justin Jefferson is at on most of this 20+ yard gainers. And we would have had to trade for Fields, with a division rival no less. Why give the Bears draft capital for a one season rental when there are better free agents you could sign? Darnold had spent last season in San Fran under Shanahan whose system is fairly similar to KOC’s. Given the options, Darnold was by far the best choice. And they’re 8-2 so I don’t know why you think he’s “wrong”. What more could you possibly ask of a bridge QB?

    • @MrCook-dz6gj
      @MrCook-dz6gj 3 дня назад

      @@Bigbackkronk Darnold has the lowest IQ I've seen from a Vikings starter since ponder.

    • @Bigbackkronk
      @Bigbackkronk 3 дня назад +4

      @@MrCook-dz6gj Lol that doesn’t address a single thing pointed out to you. Complaining about Darnold’s IQ but then suggesting the Vikes should have gone after Fields or Winston is comically insane 💀. Real life isn’t like playing Madden. Where are you getting these takes from? What is your basis for this because what you’ve posted here is crazy 😂

  • @tokyosan7906
    @tokyosan7906 3 дня назад +4

    His offense is weird, playcalling weird. KOC in yr 3 now and the team hasn't played a complete game yet, not just this season. If Flores wasn't there this would be a 2 win team right now.

    • @samkersten9539
      @samkersten9539 3 дня назад +18

      Lmao ok buddy

    • @billhicks808
      @billhicks808 3 дня назад +16

      You could have just said you don't know football.

    • @MichaelRucker-ns5po
      @MichaelRucker-ns5po 3 дня назад +8

      You high?

    • @Bugaloo44
      @Bugaloo44 3 дня назад +2

      I’ve said the same thing, KOC leaves a lot of meat on the bone on offense with too many stalled drives. He has bad clock management and can’t put the dagger in teams at the end of games

    • @MichaelRucker-ns5po
      @MichaelRucker-ns5po 3 дня назад +1

      @ he still hasn't had had HIS guy at QB yet. But overall I think KOC has been solid. 13-4 year one, 7 wins last year with a ton of injuries. And they look good this season.

  • @JimMork-r9u
    @JimMork-r9u 3 дня назад +4

    He doesn't prepare teams properly. So many games looked unprepared.

    • @ryanbanez7926
      @ryanbanez7926 3 дня назад +27

      He only has 8 wins. The nerve.

    • @wwanty
      @wwanty 3 дня назад +21

      So unprepared getting 8 wins with a bridge QB and only 1 win behind the #1 seed

    • @Lighboat011
      @Lighboat011 3 дня назад +14

      They are 8-2😂 he has them prepared 80% of the time

    • @MichaelRucker-ns5po
      @MichaelRucker-ns5po 3 дня назад

      Ehh I don't agree

    • @drakedawson3455
      @drakedawson3455 3 дня назад +7

      @@wwantylosing to the 1 seed by a late field goal all because we didn’t convert on 3rd and 4

  • @seanogs
    @seanogs 3 дня назад

    If we haven't played a complete game thus far into the season, then we probably are not going to in the remainder of the season. Our oline sucks and the CB's cannot stop or cover WR's of better teams. We will be a one and done in the play offs again.

  • @drewrobbie2560
    @drewrobbie2560 3 дня назад

    This dude is on Pat M show more than Pat M. How about fixing your very average Off instead wasting of 20 min for screen time

    • @anthonyholder7629
      @anthonyholder7629 3 дня назад +18

      8-2 how bout you?

    • @trevortomberlin7322
      @trevortomberlin7322 3 дня назад +10

      8-2 thats what matters at this point. Winning football games isnt all about is putting up insane offense numbers. Theres so much more to it. Hope you actually learn the game bud.

    • @ck9292
      @ck9292 3 дня назад +13

      Lol. They are 8-2 on what was supposed to be a bridge year while there is A LOT of dead cap money on the books. Next year they have cap room available to go crazy in free agency to "fix that offense." Although, outside of interior offensive line, and potentially running back next year, I don't know what they will need to fix (assuming JJ is good). Maybe you have some pointers oh wise one...

    • @Stacked3403
      @Stacked3403 3 дня назад +3

      8-2 when all the "experts" had them as a 6 win team 😂smd

    • @robertnelson3018
      @robertnelson3018 2 дня назад

      Immovable nose tackle and a cover corner are huge needs too.