René Hake: United's NEW Assistant Coach 🇳🇱 📈
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- News has broken that United are set to add another HEAD COACH to Erik Ten Hag’s backroom staff.
It's not a common theme in football but it's a huge trend in other sports - NBA, NFL, NRL, etc. - for proven top coaches to be brought in as assistants not just to bring their expertise & qualities to the current management team but to also allow for succession/contingency plans.
Back in April, when major doubts began to arise around Ten Hag’s future with the Athletic also confirming it was all but decided to part ways with Ten Hag, contingencies were still being considered due to the fact United still especially didn’t have Ashworth or Berrada in office to finalize such a big decision.
It appears as though that's when they began to consider the option of revamping the backroom coaching staff and bringing in someone they trusted who could step in if needed. It seems like that plan is now unfolding.
This approach serves as a solid contingency plan: having more coaches allows for a better distribution of duties and provides players with diverse personalities and voices to interact with. It's a ready-made backup plan and, in my opinion, a good pivot after deciding not to let him go.
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Wow Ste wasn’t lying when he said that there was a shit load of videos coming today. Love this guy and the effort he puts in, thanks for everything Ste
I'm liking the fact that all the stories that are coming out so far, haven't sounded ridiculous and would be positive if they happen.
This is far more than the OTHER owners did in recent years. This is a step in the right direction.
It's like appointing Mulentseen/Queiros. Hopefully we're going down the 'specialist coach' route. So one coach focused on defending, one coach focused on attacking plays, etc. Fletcher's role is just going to be 1st team transition coach for youth players and maybe new senior players to help them settle in and get up to speed. And we could easily have more than just 2 of those appointments. Evans as a player/coach is a possibility, I'd love to see Mata come back as a technical coach.
Jeeeez talk the ting my bro! You got knowledge. Gotta be careful of recruiting too many ex players though. Special mention to Park Ji Sung aswell
Exactly what I was thinking. Fergie did this most of his career as well
@@DboyRed Park Ji Sung as a fitness coach...
Fab literally said on one of the last RUclips videos that he put out that Inneos have been prioritizing a new contract ext for EtH to show him their backing and during their meetings that they were going to be asking him and involving him in these new assistant coach positions to the point he even says EtH called Ruud himself and asked him to come join him and he has also been involved in this new coach because he was literally described as a version of Ten Hag style manager....ppl keep pushing this mad narrative about some contingency plan when Inneos are literally backing him and giving him a new contract...Eth is the manager and he will finally have a proper structure and team around him with a good environment that he will be able to thrive in and United will be able to finally be headed in the right direction for the first time in over a decade!! UTFR!!!
Ten hag wanted Van Nistelroy and other higher end cosches when he came from ajax initially go look it up he said it in an interview if i remember correctly.
Yeah Dutch media is reporting the same. That getting Hake and Ruud is actual on request of ETH as part of his contract extension negotiations.
Did you not get taught about punctuation when you were a kid?
@@rich7372 easy lad.
Given that we can’t spend our way back to the top we’re going to have to get more out of what we’ve got. This is classic Dave Brailsford. Marginal improvements across every aspect of a performance.
I wish Ralf Rangnick was still here..best guy in this open heart surgery situations
What notable open heart surgery has he implemented before that lead to major success?
I know his comment is right - he was bang on. But it doesn’t take a genius to work out the managerial and business structure issues with the club.
Be realistic he's not so get o. With what we have I'm sure it's going to be great and maybe Van Nistalroy will become manager in the future.
@@Prog4Proghe came as an interims coach, with clearity to leave in the summer when ETH arrives.. his job was to prepare as good as possible for another coach. still, everything he said turned out to be true and the ckub is acting to his advices.. not directly, but the things he adressed are now being fixed piece by piece..
This is a american thing. Not usually used for succession but to bring fresh ideas to the back room. To motivate specific players or to cover up weak spots of the head coach.
It's for everything you've listed, plus the contingency
@@OserojiemenKingnot a contingency it's getting the best people u can
I think, considering what ten Hag was working with at Ajax he's not going to be too bothered by this.
I know he is something of a control freak, but if that is controlled through proper demarcation, and he is not having to fuck about dealing with shit that distracts him from doing the things he is good at, he's smart enough to take that.
Let him build his profiles, print his folders full of plans, colour code them, and date stamp everything for individual training and development plans along with practical group integration.
And then let him implement them and run the team.
Everyone else's responsibility should be making sure that there is a squad of fit, healthy, well disciplined, contented players ready to do their jobs, and making sure that no bullshit gets in the way of delivering on the field.
Everyone has a role, and everyone knows their role, and what everyone else is responsible for.
Streamline internal communications and processes and have accountability.
This is what INEOS do with their sports brands.
United is their biggest.
Don't be at all surprised if some of the shit they learned from running an F1 team, or their cycling team, or the New Zealand fucking All Blacks, and start implementing NEW styles and systems to football.
I wanna hear more from this guy. That’s a proper comment!!
Very impressive how you put it
Perfect response. Absolutely spot on
👏👏
Get this guy on youtube knows more than the eyes do❤
Let’s sign Jaap Stam to sort out the defence especially at set pieces
brother just shut up
@@saeedlameck2319why are you telling him to shut up? Bad mind.
@@saeedlameck2319 I ain’t your brother so do one!
Knowing how to defend, doesn't mean you can teach it or pass it on to the team
@@Kneetbomb so we don’t need coaches then ?
It is much more relevant who Tomas Haake is. He could really get any team going :)
Too few people are going to know that reference. 🤘
He could be the tempo setter for the team!
Coaching staff structure sounds like it going more towards like American football teams where you have a GM, head coach, OC, DC, special teams coach, etc etc, they've got tons of different coaches in their teams.
💯
Love the NRL mention, I feel like we use the assistant coach system incredibly well here
I think this is a smart move to accelerate the teams growth and youth development. We have 3 head coaches with different specialties who can take players under their wing and into first team experience/success..a la Mainoo. As well as give the senior players more confidence.
Loving the context and indepth reporting on this one ste…nva heard of him so sone backdrop helps.👊🏾
Confusing but in a positive way, each coach seem to have specific strengths which is positive. Fingers crossed everything clicks and we see the fruits of each coaches labour's.
I think it’s important for us fans to “trust this process” of what they are building behind the scenes. I really like the moves they’ve made (and are trying to make with Ashworth). This is the type of hierarchy and structure that we’ve been missing for so long. Exciting times, but this will not be a one summer change. This is going to take time.
7:33 Thank god 😂😂
Our defensive structure was a mess last season. Hopefully, Rene can improve it
Good to see they are building and improving on what we have. Rather than starting from scratch.
I'm excited about this, if the operation can be defined clearly, surely this looks like a structure for excellence. This might be the next big success story. How Manchester United put themselves back on par with the best clubs in the world.
Haa-qué qualified with the GA Aagles for the Conference League qualifiers. Balling for one place in play-offs with teams ended 6-9 in the league
We’ve not only lost Benni McCarthy recently but also Eric Ramsay. 2 of the more significant coaches in Ten Hag’s team. The latter started as a set piece coach but apparently moved into a broader and more important role. Could just be straight replacements, albeit pretty big upgrades
Hopefully new coaches bring fresheness and new energy to pre season and we can kick on
These ~10min video are the best
Can we sell sum players next week . We need a 🔥 sale
U should get an audible sponsorship deal. One step closer to prime vans sponsor
As long as ETH is comfortable and there is a clear role for everyone this should improve the training and match performances.
United have to be paying Ruud and Rene BIG money for this
possibly but not necessarily, have to be is strong. u forget that having a job at United is still a privilege & will always be a shining light on your resumé.. especially if you have a young/under the radar career like these 2
Why would they pay them big money ? Both coached PSV & Goahead Eagles, not like they were poached from Madrid and Liverpool and were being looked at by other clubs, Man United is the biggest thing to ever happen to them, why would they be paid big money ? They should be paying us.
It's about leaving no stone un-turned in allowing the players to be as good as they can be.
We can't go out and buy a completely new team - so the squad evolution will take time.
If we can make the players better and performing at their highest possible level - we'll be more successful on the pitch. And importantly grow the value of the players in the squad - so they can be sold and make money if that's what the club wants. It's basically running the club professionally.
This succession planning is learning the mistakes from when ferguson retired. In one of Ferguson's books, he said he always changed his assistant managers to bring in fresh ideas.
Be nice to see some players coming in not just the usual 200 players being linked then the 5th choices turn up on the last day
Seems to me like they're looking at the American football model, where you have specialised coaches for different phases of play. Ten Hag being the main man, responsible for setting the overaall style and picking players etc. Van Nistelrooy the attacking phase coach and Hake the defensive coach.
We have had this sort of thing before. When Quieroz came in, he coached the defence to become probably the best defence ever seen in the premier league.
It'll be interesting to see how it works in practice. It could be United taking the initiative and leading the way once again, or it could end in disaster. Lets hope its the former!
Ruud van Nistelrooy, Rene Hake and Erik Ten Hag - would my lyrical brethren please get on it. We have an opportunity, along with some Euros banter, for some bloody incredible chants this season lol
I get the sense that united is gearing towards the international model of football and having multiple teams under the brand. Hence people like barada and brailsford. I think the hierarchy will make more sense with an org chart though
hey Ste, can you do a video on what's going on with the backroom staff since the INEOS takeover? Why isn't Ashworth starting yet, what does each person do, and how do it impact the club or at least the first team. Cheers
@@stephens5748 ashworth is being held to ransom by Newcastle. It's all good though, anybody they try to recruit after will know they will get the same treatment. Shot themselves in the foot there 🤷♂️
@@matthewbaker2573 That's what I heard. Just wanted a video breaking down what each person will do is all. Thanks tho
it's not a bad shout actually... might be easier after all these sorts of appointments have been sorted
@@matthewbaker2573happened already with Palace's SD. He was supposed to replace Ashworth at Newcastle but turned down the job (allegedly) because of how Ashworth has been treated.
It's like week 1 of Master Chef 👨🍳
Hey Ste, can you recommend more football books? Thanks
I thibk having a professional grade manager having had great managerial experience at PSV as a COACH at united can only be a good thing with Ruud, not to mention the history with the club
I like what i see so far. Can't wait to see what they are cooking 😂😂
Boiled eggs
Just saw a clip of him on X unleashing on his players smh the man doesn't play games these players are in for a rude awakening I love it 😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂 i saw that too
What was he saying , I couldn't listen properly as the kid was sleeping
Ste why not do a family tree type thing if where you see everyone fitting in. From SJR & Brailsford down
One coach making us better with the ball. One making us better without the ball and ETH getting the balance right between the two. If it works it could be very good. Whether it works is a different question.
Keep Greenwood
I can imagine him scoring 30 goals under RVN & Ten Hag & Hake
May have been a different player. In Ibras book, he talks about listening to Marco van Basten over LvG and it caused a big fallout.
It kinda feels like more positions are being created to distance people from direct responsibility for team under performance. This way, more junior members of staff lose their positions while senior coaches and staff stay safe.
So we've hired Hake who likes defence and Ruud who is all out attack.... doesn't seem like a bad thing to me,
Darren Fletcher can take his boots off again and get into learning his job rather than acting as an assistant coach, lets be real he's essentially on work experience to potentially work behind the scenes
No hake is known for free flowing football, same with ruud, all 3 share the same ideas more or less
@@mrcross91absolutely not. Hake has been coaching teams trying to avoid relegation and has been brilliant. He's definitely defence first.
@@OserojiemenKing under the current circumstances at go ahead eagles yes, but he's shown the ability to play differently depending players and is known for getting the best out of what he's got. Great news for us
Het is mooi als fan van go ahead eagles om René Hake naar Engeland te zien gaan🔴🟡🦅
He’s got hair… could be a sign of good things to come.
😂😂😂. Damn, van de gaag and ten hag were goated
He’s managing a football team, you’re not goin on a tinder date with him.
@@5on-of-Fire twas a joke
Right so are stating eleven backroom and managment staff are great now how about some players maybe just a thought
Obviusly there is a plan. If we ever understand it or know exactly what it is wil be a different matter, at a club like united shoukd of happened years ago.
Ste where’s your hoodie from?
It reminds me when Walter Smith came in to help Fergie out for a bit and he toughen Ronaldo up aswell apparently
We’re filling the back room with an abundance of staff. But they don’t play on the field , can we sign some decent players this lot can work with.
I like these moves
Why can’t we just trust the new owners and see where their vision is going.
The Avengers are assembling.
Are that ineos signing more backroom staff and assistants than players???
At least they're not making Southgate part of the backroom staff.
I do not understand the take that they are being put there in case EtH fails...if things go wrong, they would also be part of the problem! Unless they are just going to be sitting doing nothing until EtH fails.
The only problem with this logic is that top head coaches these days come with an entourage of their own.
Hake and chips is always a winner
Who will di the pressers. Surely some of all these are less prone to misunderstandings and misinterpretations than ten Hag
Why on Earth do you keep saying "we've just lost Benni McCarthy"? He's not going anywhere. Ten Hag has been trying to get him a new contract.
It's a bit of logic. One of Mitch, Benni or Steve is getting the bullet. INEOS are not going to Keep them all... Benni has also said he wants to return to Head coaching so logical
Van der sar GK coach, van nistelrooy striker coach, Evra lb/rb coach, Ferdinand or vidic CB coach, Scholes cm coach,Giggs winger coach,Beckham cross/set piece coach Carrick CDM coach Rooney cam coach
😂😂😂😂😂
I hope this isn’t going to end up as, picking the team by committee.
If he's not a good man manager, and there maybe some truth to that but I'd put forward the case of Mainoo against that argument. We've all seen the clips of last season at Carabao and this season at FA, it's not a coincidence that these events happened exactly in that sequence, on the back of everything Mainoo did last season
Problem with dutch coaches like ten hag van gaal is their meticulous planning and detailing, which older players do not take kindly as they think it affects their individuality, but younger players are keen to learn as they want to prove the coach
Why do need all these managers and good to see rud back united like to see him help united younger players that better than players that spent loads of money that are useless and need to sign and getting rid of old players are just there for paycheck
I’m afraid No player in the club it telling howison anything about ETH. Yes we’ve all heard he’s cold because he said he’s not the kind of guy to give hugs and tell players he’s proud of them. But this is second hand from Rio who we all know talks out of his ring after the sheik Jassim fiasco!
Shout out to anyone who has managed a big club on Football Manager and had 15-20 coaches on their staff! 😂
Does it look like a matrix management system? If so, it provides more stability.
We had Van der Gaag, McClaren, McCarthy, and Ramsey.
Now we will have
Van der Gaag
McClaren
Van Nistelrooy
Hake. 👍🏼
Good video ,been watching linekar pod casts as you mentioned him ,funny ,enjoyed .
Get Jaap Stam in as well 🇾🇪
RvN n JS songs all game
GGMU ❤
I think Van Nestelrooy could replace Ten Hag next season.
This is setting up RVN for future manager.
The Dutch Avengers
Why tf are we getting coaches while every club, elite or not, is buying players aggressively.
WHAT? out of nowhere
Yeah. Like an RKO
😂😂😂
Hake is making a step sideways probably to make a career step upwards later. You have to understand that the Dutch League has a clear top 3 and a cultural difference, these typical Eastern style manager are judged to not fit in Amsterdam and Rotterdam, Eindhoven maybe but also a best of the rest manager like Ron Jans never got through that glass ceiling either. Ten Hag going to Ajax was the exception and a lot of people in Amsterdam doubting the choice. If no Bundesliga club in the bottom half is taking a gamble, that's were it stops for a manager like Hake.
So for Hake this is an opportunity to get out of being provincial manager with trying to get into the conference league as the highest ambition. Too many cooks spoiling the broth? Ten Hag is the chef, chef means boss actually, the chief cook. He has achieved more, is naturally his boss. Part of Dutch football culture is also to be extremely democratic up till the point the decision has to be made, than the discussion among equals is done and Ten Hag decides.
RvN didn't feel ready to be manager of PSV but helped the club out. It didn't work, he doesn't seem to have the analytical football braind for today's managers. I doubt he still wants to be the gaffer in the future. He seems to have become a more pleasant less selfish character, he is soft and well spoken, he has got a gorgeous beard, I can seem him being happy simply helping young players to get better at a very high level.
Recipe for disaster undermining manager unless eth directs other coaches and doesn't override them by going to players like any management structure
People in the comments talking about signing players just need to stfu,we’ve been signing players for the last 10 years and we are still shit so just have some patience let them sort out the structure of the club and then sort out the correct signings, success comes with structured business
What happened to his former assistant
I love the idea that Ruud is there and can be potential ETH successor. This type of forward thinking vision is completely foriegn to the United we have known post-fergie.
We need new players. If they do not come, we dont need these new managers/trainers
Are Van Der Gag and Mclaren on their way out?
Mitchell is
Ruud will be manager season after next. Nailed on.
Hake isn't too much of a possession style coach... had a lot of direct straight from the goalie passes to specific players in the middle
Very much one ten hags ajax teams favourite ways of playing out and gives variety in the build up. Everything I've seen about him was that he is very tactically flexible but as he's been at a lot of relegation sides with the task of making them overperform he has naturally focused on defense first at these places.
ten "hach"! not Ten "Hag"
I trust the administration Ineos are building
My god, ste. Are you collecting bots now? Comments are full of them
To many coaches no players. Stinks of “getting the best” out of the current crop of shit which will fail
3 angry dutch coaches will make it impossible for player power!
I just hope that they also have man management skills as Benni seemed to be the intermediary and have the soft approach.
Footballers arent mentally built the same way anymore & can go in their shells with angry coaches!
hope this is the right balance & we dont have to hear anymore grumbles
Hopefully that's the last we will see of McLaren!!
The amount of bots in the comments is wild
His record as a coach is truly brilliant, isn’t it? Mid table Dutch clubs his entire career and he’s meant to revamp our failing defensive structure. Let’s see, I’m very doubtful
Mid table finishes with clubs that should be fighting relegation. Interesting how you left that part out. Try some positivity, lad. It helps
@@OserojiemenKingIt really does beg the question why no big Dutch side like Ajax PSV or Feyenoord went near him then. My point is his track record looks uninspiring. And apparently he’s very similar to ETH which isn’t a good sign. I am usually very optimistic. But the last couple of weeks at the club RE the Ten hag decision hasn’t restored any confidence in me going forward
Too many cooks
in NFL dont they have head Def coach who has coaches under him and head Def coachsame and Head coach who basically works with the Def and Att coach .. could we be going for something like that ..
It could be something like this with each coach having coaches under them, like STE sed more individual training makes sense when ETH has talked about not having enough training time in the past.
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RUUD ? HAKE McClaren
I think that is not helpful at all- too many cooks spoil the soup and salad and everything else- the legend Sir Alex has one assistant coach
Ten hag just needs a fresh team get rid of leg irons he has to juggle n play because there wage size they to soft n spoiled he not there mate