Pilot reports unresponsive engine on approach to New York Kennedy Airport. Real ATC
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- Опубликовано: 6 фев 2025
- THIS VIDEO IS A RECONSTRUCTION OF THE FOLLOWING SITUATION IN FLIGHT:
01-FEB-2025. An Delta Air Lines Boeing 767-300 (B763), registration N172DZ, performing flight DAL991 / DL991 from Los Angeles International Airport, CA (USA) to New York John F. Kennedy International Airport, NY (USA) was descending towards New York when the flight crew declared an emergency and reported unresponsive engine. They stopped the descent at 16000 feet to work out the problem. Subsequently the airplane landed safely on runway 4 left at New York Kennedy Airport, vacated the runway and continued taxi to the gate.
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THE MAIN VALUE IS EDUCATION. This reconstruction will be useful for actual or future air traffic controllers and pilots, people who plan to connect life with aviation, who like aviation. With help of this video reconstruction you’ll learn how to use radiotelephony rules, Aviation English language and general English language (for people whose native language is not English) in situation in flight, which was shown. THE MAIN REASON I DO THIS IS TO HELP PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND EVERY EMERGENCY SITUATION, EVERY WORD AND EVERY MOVE OF AIRCRAFT.
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1) I monitor media, airspace, looking for any non-standard, emergency and interesting situation.
2) I find communications of ATC unit for the period of time I need.
3) I take only phrases between air traffic controller and selected flight.
4) I find a flight path of selected aircraft.
5) I make an animation (early couple of videos don’t have animation) of flight path and aircraft, where the aircraft goes on his route.
6) When I edit video I put phrases of communications to specific points in video (in tandem with animation).
7) Together with my comments (voice and text) I edit and make a reconstruction of emergency, non-standard and interesting situation in flight.
Why can't controllers pass on the "souls on board and fuel" to the next controller? Also, the first controller asked for fuel in minutes, the second in pounds. It's ridiculous.
and they allow a 777 to depart prior to arrival, so they get a wake turbulence warning as well. Geesh.
I was just about to comment the same! When working a problem, running extra checklists and descending into congested airspace simultaneously, the last thing you need is extra radio calls to give the same info. Don’t understand why this isn’t passed on from one controller to the next when they’re informing them about the handoff of an emergency aircraft.
Something I thought of is two things:
They want to be in a ready state to receive communication from the distressed party, so maybe they keep the communication absolutely brief. Possibly communicating through an automated system or text so the mic is open?
Getting multiple accounts might be useful, but I can also see how that would be stressing. They also might account for that stress?
So I am going to amend your statement a bit. Why can’t a purpose built automated system help relay this information (from controller to controller, not aircraft to controller) and leave the line open.
NOT some other overloaded automated system, a purpose built, unique system that is not saturated.
First controller said he passed the info to approach. Then when DL991 checked in the controller asked for same info! WTH?
As far as the fuel, they keep using it. Some towers ask in pounds and others in time. Perhaps terrain and location determines fuel to be recorded in pounds or time.
The passengers are usually not informed about this stuff. They don't want panic on the airliner.
ATC: "Would you like fries with your burger?"
lmao
I wonder what kind of information did the first controller claim to have passed as he said "I've passed all the information to approach". And then approach controller requested the damn same information that was provided to the first controller and it's evident that American controllers are not talking to each other or passing the information they always claim to have passed. Maybe it will be better for the pilots to not bother giving the souls and fuel on board to the departure controller and instead give it to approach controller or even to the tower controller. Pilots are busy talking to company, running checklists, talking to cabin crew and doing PA to passengers and then they had to answer same question or request to different controllers
Why not keep the runway clear from any planes causing wake turbulence in front of an emergency plane landing with engines malfunctioning? I cannot understand such decisions 😮😮
15,000lb fuel lasting 98 minutes means thy use 2.55lb fuel every second
Should this of been a panpan or im i dumb
No.
Pretty soon the airlines will be declaring an emergency and asking for CFR for food carts that get loose in the aisle 🤣 Meanwhile, we have Blackhawk helicopters running into airliners on final approach
In "rest of the world", would this engine issue be Pan Pan, Pan Pan, Pan Pan, or Mayday Mayday Mayday?