Michael Landsberg deserves his spot in wrestling history imo. No one was granted this type of access at this time. Some of the best wrestling interviews ever. Seems like Vince respected him and his interviewing ability.
Michael landsburg in my opinion is one of the greatest interviewers in sports history. He is a savage and he always asks the questions you wanna know the answers to. Great interview! Sending love to our neighbors up north. 🇨🇦 🇺🇸
OTR with Landsberg was way ahead of its time. I don’t think anyone today has ever done a shoot interview with Vince, Biscoff, and Heyman. All during the peak attitude era no less. None of these podcasts come close to OTR. Was glad to be Canadian during this time to watch these as a kid.
For the longest time, the only version of this interview on RUclips was a shorter one with the name association edited out. Thanks for uploading the full version.
YOU MEAN YOU FOUND OUT NOW THAT VINCE IS AND HAS BEEN A PERVERT. IF YOUR MARRIED DID YOU EVER SHIT ON YOUR WIDES HEAD AND HAIR BECAUSE MCMAHON DID TO THIS GIRL.
That’s all they are . Allegations . That woman wanted to further her career so she slept with the boss and others. She took money to be quiet about it. Only it wasn’t enough money.
What people don’t talk about is that he also lost Shawn about 4 months after Bret…he took a big hit with two legends going to the shelf like that…still made two more megastars in no time in Rock and Austin
Getting the Bret vs Shawn feud out of the way cleared the way for the younger generation of stars. And by 1998, Shawn was self destructive and needed time off for his own sake.
He didn't. He knew who the brains were. Hes just not gonna say it because at this time eric was on tv challenging Vince to a fight. It just vince no selling the whole thing.
I feel like working for Vince McMahon would be hell but hanging out with him outside of work he seems like a chill guy you'd drink a beer with & talk about life in 1998.
Man Vince seems or seemed to be an actually pretty cool guy. Very open and didnt dodge any questions and even did the shows plugs for upcoming shows. Very cool!
VINCE YOU SAID IS A COOL GUY. DO YOU HAVE A DAUGHTER WOULD YOU LIKE MCMAHON TO SHIT ON YOUR DAUGHTERS HEAD AND HAIR BECAUSE THATS WHAT HE DID TO THIS GIRL GENELE
“Hard gear” lol. He was on anabolics long before 2003. You just couldn’t tell cuz he always wore a suit. And he had to stop when they were under scrutiny for it in 90s.
Gotta respect Vince for sticking around and taking his best shot. He went down and got whacked but he got up and earned the respect of the guys and there's no boss in such a huge corporation that would ever, ever even think of doing that. Vince is a Mensch!
I was thinking the same thing. Is there another owner of ANYTHING you can think of, that would be man enough to stay there and let a guy as tough as Bret Hart, have a free shot? I dont think so. Vince McMahon is a devisive personality. Some hate him, some like him, but I dont think anyone can honestly say that the guy doesnt face things like a man. He did it here, when the ring boy scandal hit, he didnt send some underling on Donahue or Larry King to face the heat. HE showed up to answer the tough questions. He did the same thing when the XFL embarrassingly flopped, and while I think Owen Hart's death was really sad and unnecessary, he was there to answer questions about that after it happened. I admire the man. Hes worked as hard as anyone with a job in this country, and he doesnt just write checks, hes in it everyday and in every performance that the WWE has. Nobody is perfect, but I think Vince earned everything he has.
@kronos911 He still went in, even if that is indeed the case. A lot of chaos going on, Taker has a locker-room perspective on the situation and maybe Vince was just smart enough to listen to Mark.
I think Vince got so tired of telling Bret about the plan that bret wouldn’t agree to that he just said “okay fine you win tonight and drop it tomorrow” and Vince just proceeded to tell shawn “He wouldn’t listen so we going to end it like this without him knowing”
Vince never once said he let Bret go because he could not draw, so to all the people who think that is the reason, it is nothing more than your opinion and not fact and certainly whatever you think could not trump what Vince says. The reason's Vince says is because of creative differences, Bret's injuries, and of course the amount of money they were paying Bret.
…which means he didn’t draw. He wasn’t “paying off” financially. If he did he wouldn’t have let him go. Plus other talent was bitching so he said “fuck it”
When Vince says Bret wanted things “on his terms” - what he leaves out is that VINCE AGREED TO THOSE TERMS!!! If Vince didn’t want to agree with his terms then he shouldn’t have signed the deal, but he did, and then he reneged on the contract. It’s like they totally ignore that Vince made a commitment and then broke it, so of course wanted things his way when Vince broke his commitment to him, DUH. Why would anyone expect to break a deal and then have the other guy give deference to what you want? He shouldn’t have broken the deal if he couldn’t handle what Bret wanted. It’s Vince’s fault.
The Lapsed Fan podcast covers your point in one of their incredibly in-depth Montreal Screwjob episodes. The deal was done, Bret had legitimate grounds to have Vince/Titan Sports sued for breach of contract. Bret's contract didn't expire until about 2 weeks AFTER the night of the screwjob.
@@mr.x9566I've never listened to that show. I don't like fan podcasts. I like podcasts from people that are in the business not someone trying to play know it all.
@@shadycnetwork So you've NEVER listened to it but are also simultanously making assumptions about it? One of The Lapsed Fan podcasts hosts is a legitimate journalist, had also worked with Sherdog, they collaborate with Vice TV at times. The other host, works at Madison Square Garden and has access to WWWF/WWF data pertain to events held there. They've covered all Wrestlemanias alongside Dave Meltzer. Covered the WCCW and the Von Erich Curse by combing through newspaper articles dating back to the early 1900, looking into Fritz's parents background. The Lapsed Fan also obtained all court documents and transcripts from the Vince McMahon Steroid trial. (That's how everyone and Linda, learned that Vince was cheating on her with his new PA and former playboy model Emily Feinberg, who was asked by Vince to store his steroids in his personal office fridge. They even managed to track down and interview the same teenage boy that was hanging around outside and inside the courtrooms, (playing with the wrestlers) that the news crews interviewed in 1994. It's the only "fan" podcast I listen to because of the depth of which they're able to comb over historical information and events. Even if you're not interested, that's okay. Someone else reading this, may be. Have a good day 😊 👍🏼
Love them or hate them, vince mcmahon and dana white don't sidestep anything. Well I should say they aren't scared of the cameras or interviews. Plus whether right or wrong they definitely aren't afraid to tell you what they think and feel
These interviews are so interesting. Majority of us know everything that went down. You didn’t get much of a glimpse of behind the scenes nor were there many interviews. We were only limited to whatever these wrestlers decided to share with us on the rare interview. Today, thanks to the internet, the curtain is very much completely torn off.
Vince took the top guys from all the different territories back in the day. Now that WCW (Eric Bishoff, not Ted Turner) did it to, Vince, now its not fair. Lol. Vince is great at dodging certain things though. Genuis ha
Difference is Vince made them stars. WCW took advantage of WWF’ star power. The NWO wouldn’t have worked if Vince didn’t push the Diesel and Razor Ramon characters.
@@ITSHIM1294 WCW made Goldberg and DDP. Took sting and made it the top merch seller(yes, even above the NWO) started the (light weight wrestling boom) WCW made Booker T a top single talent as well.
@@nexpro6118 in 2000/2001, an era where guys like David Arquette and Vince Russo were booked as world champs. He was never world champ in the glory days of WCW
Your hero is the Brett Hart that you saw on your tv screen. That's what Vince was referring to. It was the character you were attracted to, which was a result of people giving him the belt and allowing him to beat and pin them. You're hero is not Brett Hart the human being. It's the wrestler that you saw on their programming.
Vince is the ultimate contender. He admits to fucking Bret over without overtly saying it, and he lost his "Babe Ruth" (I.E. the greatest in-ring storyteller of all time) by doing it. Nevertheless, he seems most excited when he's discussing new ideas and potential challenges. He didn't care when he lost Bret, Austin or Rock because he's always fixated on the next challenge.
If Vince hadn’t sided with HBK there would not have been an attitude era in the form we got it. No curtain call, Austin wouldn’t have won king of the ring, Tyson worked better with Austin v HBK than Bret would have. Plus we got this VKM . Not of that would have occurred without Montreal. Bret didn’t want to lose in Canada , it wasn’t just about Michaels . Michaels got the title, we got heel Vince, Bret got $9 million. Everyone should have come out of this well , WCW couldn’t capitalise on it. EDIT People don’t like my timeline evidently, Vince sided with HBK long before Montreal , and long after he still paid him. The curtain call isn’t meant to relate directly to Montreal. He refused to send back the IC title before mania 10 and went and made himself a superstar there , Vince saw something in him .
@@Maradala Like it or not The Undertaker was the man in the locker room and was well respected for it like the time when he wrapped up his hands and waited backstage in case HBK didn’t put stone cold over at WM 👍
@@matthewfox3165 I like 'Taker, but that was just stupid of him to do so. For him to assume that Shawn would not do business, especially after Vince bringing in Tyson to add to the mix and with Shawn having a broken back, is just plain foolhardy. There is nothing heroic about it. It was Vince's call to screw Bret in Montreal, and it was Vince's call to go forward with Austin as the champion. 'Taker sitting at Gorilla position to take care of Shawn, when Vince already had everything chalked out and taken care of, is laughable to say the least. On top of it, 'Taker marks trying to elevate this up to some sort of god-like achievement or divine intervention, is even more laughable and ridiculous.
You do know that Shawn WASNT gonna put Stone Cold over right? He want to vacate the belt night after!!! You do know that Shawn was meant to put Bulldog over when he beat him for the European title!!! Shawn was just like Hall, Nash and Hogan in WCW. So do you blame the undertaker for doing what he did and was only doing it for the business and wanted the best for it!!! So yeah you can say how stupid it is but he did it because he didn’t want anything else like it did happen again.
@@siddharthakumar6467 Shawn had a history of coming up with something to avoid losing a title and just vacate it. To get Stone Cold his moment he needed to beat Shawn for the belt and Taker knew it and did not want to take a chance knowing Shawn.
McMahon around this time period was way more dedicated to his company than the average Fortune 500 CEO who gets paid millions whether their company fails or succeeds.
The truth about the Vince vs Bret issue was the WWE was not in a good place financially and wanted to reconstruct Brets contract and when that wasnt possible they cut ties, and im sure Bret was a man of his word and wouldnt have walked off with the WWE title but from Vinces persepctive, he couldnt let that happen. I think the best idea for a solution was to have the Undertaker take the belt off Bret...but thats only for everyone walking away happy...the way it actually played out worked well for the introduction of the Evil Mr. McMahon character.
I can respect Vince’s answer: “Brett’s character is a Canadian Hero”. Landsberg seems confused that wrestlers are characters! Nonetheless, as a Canadian, any time a fellow Canuck makes it to the top of an industry, it’s a source of pride!
@@Toni-QQ it’s nice to imagine that wrestling is real but dude they’re actors with scripts. There’s no reason why Brett Hart would have been given more wins than Hercules Hernandez or Texas Tornado. He should be counting his lucky stars to have been randomly placed on a top-20 pedestal as opposed to the other 500 wrestlers that didn’t have a fraction of his SCRIPTED glory. Nonetheless, I was still a fan of his and I’m proud that he’s Canadian. Vince ran the show in the 80’s and could have made Brett lose every match if he wanted to.
@@Toni-QQ Bret was old school/territory style... Where losing on TV or PPV on your way out diminished your value and ultimately what you got paid. That wasn't the case here but Bret held to the old school shit where losing in Canada wasn't something he would do.
Butt Hurt's politics is a big reason why Nash left. Which draw was next if Vince let Burt Herb stay in the WWF. He was against the attitude era, the only reason why WWF still exists.
For years I used to be on Bret’s side all the way with the screw job , but now I can understand Vince’s point of view, and can honestly say Brett took it way too seriously and dripping titled on your way out of a territory was common practice in the industry. Bret wasn’t damaged goods from it and he was about to become a multi millionaire …at the end of the day Vince was the boss, and you do what your told and move on
I question If Shawn Michaels really walked into the locker room one day and said "I'll never put you over" like Bret Hart claimed and based on why he wouldn't put Shawn over.
Yeah but Butt Hurt grew up 2000 miles away from Montreal so Bret can't lose. So basically he can only lose in California, British Columbia, and Alaska. In a fake sport btw. 🤣
I agree Marc, and I felt the same way at the time. Now though, Bret is full of it in my opinion. He is or atleast was a narcissist, and took himself and his fake character WAYYYY too seriously. Im not perfect by any stretch, but I do believe the Sunny Days thing, and I dont buy Brets explanation of why he only talked about himself when he met with Vince after Owen's death. Regardless of the lawsuit, and if lawyers wanted him to not talk about the tragedy when meeting with Vince, theres a time and place for everything. Talking about your likeness, and getting access to pictures and videos of yourself while in the WWE so you can get them and use them for some money making idea you have, just seems wrong as a brother in that moment, idk. I just dont buy the whole Bret Hart, im such a moral and honorable guy act. While Vince is no saint, I dont think Bret is either.
This man has been on top since I was a child. He is a definition of a life-long business success. He might be difficult, but he's a winner .... and he's been winning for DECADES!
Vince is always pretty damn well composed. Bravo for not dodging. "Bret thought it was going to be a disqualification." lol. I heard the recorded conversation on Wrestling with Shadows. Vince said "I would think it would be run in type thing." He alluded to a DQ. He did make Bret think that. Either way, great interview before they buried the hatchet.
So Vince was saying Bret began to break down so his worth began to dwindle. Even though they had somewhat of a father/son relationship and Bret gave him his all for so long. Gives you a glimpse into who Vince was as a person. I understand the business aspect, but you don't treat someone who has given you everything so little in return when he looks to you for a hand.
knowing the mechanics, knowing bret hart and vince mcmahon understanding of what good business is, this video is a historical proof that the screwjob was the best worked shoot in the history of pro wrestling.
BS that Brets body was breaking down. Yes he had knee surgery in 1997 but still appeared in storyline and had great matches before and after the knee surgery. Prior to that he was an iron man missing just 2 shows in 14 years. Now what is true is that Bret didn't like the direction the company was taking in the attitude era with all the sexuality, foul language, and vulgarity. The biggest issue came down to money I believe. Vince couldn't afford or didn't want to honor the long contract they had signed. Also, Bret deserves more credit for being a Canadian Hero than Vince wants to give him. If it was that easy Vince could create heros from any country he would please. Finally, Vince didn't leave like a coward that night on Montreal because he knew if he did after screwing Bret Hart it would have caused a locker room mutiny. Everyone from Undertaker, to Stone Cold, to Mankind, to Shamrock, etc highly admired and respected Bret. The WWF would have been left a shadow of its self with only DX and some lower and mid card guys left. Taking that punch from Bret saved Vince and his company. And to his credit, he launched the Mr. McMahon character thanks to the screwjob and he was lucky Stone Cold was so hot and was the perfect feud for Mr McMahon
Come on. He was definitely breaking down. His career ended 2 years after this and in those two years he hardly did anything of note. He had hit his 40s by this point in early 98. He was on his way down.
@@Liverpool5095 Bret was still having great matches. The reasons why his final two years were not more noteworthy was one, because WCW sucked and couldn't figure out how to use him, and two, Owen tragically dying led to Bret taking a break from the ring, which you can't blame him. The reason his career ended was the concusion(s) in the Goldberg Match, and making it worse by wrestling several more times after that instead of taking time off to heal.
I love the fact that Vince is literally crying about WCW in the second half of the show when he spent the first half talking crap about Bret Hart crying about everything.
@@ChimChim-di6jz Undertaker's idea was Vince's as confirmed by Mark and Bruce Prichard in UT Documentary "The Last Yard". Again, without Vince's vision and talent scouting skills, we wouldn't have superstars to look upto.
October 2023. I still ADORE Vince. Always will. You know what's crazy? He can get an Irish Passport. His grandfather was from Galway. He genuinely would be left alone here Ireland. He could live a comfortable, low-tax life. Still can't understand why he doesn't retire in Ireland. He also might have to lay Linda a lot less. Vince McMahon is my hero. Usual suspects for the new age might be popular RUclipsrs and TilTokers but VMcM is one of MANY who made too much of Irish heritage.. more-so in the fighting business. He can retire here, live a happy life and nobody will every bother him because us Irish would want to bother anyone
16:56 Journalist: “Is there anything that’s out-of-bounds for you guys right now?” Vince McMahon: “Uh well sure, I think that there might be some things that are out-of-bounds, I mean there are no guns, there are no knives, there’s no r*pes, there’s no robberies.” - Vince McMahon in 1998
Multiple reasons, one is Vince already told him he will answer any questions, seconds he has been on the show multiple times, and third it is like going to Howard Stern and not expecting some edgy questions or confrontational questions.
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Michael Landsberg deserves his spot in wrestling history imo. No one was granted this type of access at this time. Some of the best wrestling interviews ever. Seems like Vince respected him and his interviewing ability.
Living here in Canada I can truly say for whatever reason the WWF seemed to treat it's Canadian audience more intelligently.
A shame he couldn't stop interrupting guests
OTR was the original "shoot interview". Landsberg deserves a spot in the HOF.
@@bilkomax This was still a tv spot with limited amount of time available, it ain't no podcast!
@@bilkomax👍
Michael landsburg in my opinion is one of the greatest interviewers in sports history. He is a savage and he always asks the questions you wanna know the answers to.
Great interview!
Sending love to our neighbors up north. 🇨🇦 🇺🇸
I can imagine Bret Hart watching this at home yelling at the tv "you screwed me" ...and things of that nature
Looking back, I think it was a work..
@@Ishbikes So is the fictional character of Janel Grant
@@romans52345-cy3tqwow you're really that naive
You kids and your imaginations
Wouldn’t surprise me. All he does is complain these days
OTR with Landsberg was way ahead of its time. I don’t think anyone today has ever done a shoot interview with Vince, Biscoff, and Heyman. All during the peak attitude era no less. None of these podcasts come close to OTR. Was glad to be Canadian during this time to watch these as a kid.
For the longest time, the only version of this interview on RUclips was a shorter one with the name association edited out. Thanks for uploading the full version.
"I think it was good television. I think a lot of people would like to kick my ass". A quote like that is why Vince is the GOAT
Epstein was better at being a sex trafficker.
Trump and Vince are Friends.
Trump and Epstein were friends.
Rapists of a feather flock together.
Stop saying goat
@@brade7322stop telling people to stop speaking the truth
@@shadycnetwork then tell people to stop saying goat every time. It’s annoying
Loyalty counts for nothing when it's business. Vince is ruthless.
Business 101
Watching amidst the most recent allegations. Thanks for posting.
YOU MEAN YOU FOUND OUT NOW THAT VINCE IS AND HAS BEEN A PERVERT. IF YOUR MARRIED DID YOU EVER SHIT ON YOUR WIDES HEAD AND HAIR BECAUSE MCMAHON DID TO THIS GIRL.
That’s all they are . Allegations . That woman wanted to further her career so she slept with the boss and others. She took money to be quiet about it. Only it wasn’t enough money.
I'm sure Vince thinks of it as another walk in the park amongst all the other obstacles throughout his life
@@kyleknapp1985Yeah, that’s ONLY allegation Vince has ever faced.
thanks for ur useful informative comment, brother
Vince enjoyed this interview and respected Michael Landsberg
My name is Vince McMahon, and things of that nature lol
Quite frankly, to a certain extent, in any event, I'm Vince McMahon.
Pal!
In any capacity yes
He has the testicular fortitude
@@MindandSorcery And in any way, shape or form!
'Breaking down physically, disruptive and a pain in the ass in the locker room" I'm 100 percent sure Vince that you are describing your boy toy HBK
In 1997…. Vince knew where the Money was..
Boy toy and Vince had a cock and ball contract as per Hawk and Animal.
A guy who cries about losing a staged fight is definitely a pain in the ass 😂
@@ITSHIM1294 that's what shawn michaels did multiple times
Steve Austin no shows? Took his ball and went home for a year or so? And Vince took him back. Of course cause Austin was one of his big money makers
Vince could tell someone 2+2=5 and easily win that argument.
What people don’t talk about is that he also lost Shawn about 4 months after Bret…he took a big hit with two legends going to the shelf like that…still made two more megastars in no time in Rock and Austin
Getting the Bret vs Shawn feud out of the way cleared the way for the younger generation of stars. And by 1998, Shawn was self destructive and needed time off for his own sake.
I always liked how Vince viewed Ted Turner more of a threat and Bischoff more as an underling. Shows where his head is at as a businessman.
He didn't. He knew who the brains were. Hes just not gonna say it because at this time eric was on tv challenging Vince to a fight. It just vince no selling the whole thing.
@bpj1720Eric is a much better actor/on screen talent than mac mahon Junior ever was.
@@marcbasil that is ridiculous! Don't forget to pick up your clown shoes on the way out, the circus only provides one pair.
I think his pride was hurt. He couldn't admit an announcer who he didn't even hire was beating him creatively.
that's true. Never thought of it but makes sense... especially since Vince started off as an announcer! ha!@@LeoWhalen1933
I feel like working for Vince McMahon would be hell but hanging out with him outside of work he seems like a chill guy you'd drink a beer with & talk about life in 1998.
Ask jim ross about him .
You wanna work for eric bischoff or Paul heyman
This didn’t age well.
@@themitchies Innocent until proven guilty...not the other way around
@@dr.loomis4221 sure in court, this is RUclips comments section.
Man Vince seems or seemed to be an actually pretty cool guy. Very open and didnt dodge any questions and even did the shows plugs for upcoming shows. Very cool!
Doubt that an individual that is easily emotionally flustered could take the WWE to those heights.
VINCE YOU SAID IS A COOL GUY. DO YOU HAVE A DAUGHTER WOULD YOU LIKE MCMAHON TO SHIT ON YOUR DAUGHTERS HEAD AND HAIR BECAUSE THATS WHAT HE DID TO THIS GIRL GENELE
This aged like milk
@@mutedmutiny9542 about an interview from 25+ years ago and surface level topics. Get a life man
@@robrico129 I wonder if Vince crapped on Michael’s head before the interview, what do you think?
Vince almost pulled a Rick James “I didn’t tell him it would be a DQ” (seconds later) ”He heard it from Me that it would be a DQ!”
How about you listen more carefully? He absolutely didn't say "I didn't tell him it would be a DQ".
vince is right wwe wasnever close going out busienss nwa went under in 88 and had good ratings. wwe money back then was in ppv and hosue shows
@@HhhHhhh-nu4lm What exactly is the NWA?
Thanks :)
Vince: "Yeah, I remember grinding my feet on Bret's couch.."
@@HhhHhhh-nu4lm yes they were.
I rushed home from school and watched this the first time it aired.
It's an amazing business education piece
Seeing vince here and then in 2003 when he was 57
He def got on hgh and hard gear
“Hard gear” lol. He was on anabolics long before 2003. You just couldn’t tell cuz he always wore a suit. And he had to stop when they were under scrutiny for it in 90s.
No shit pal
I could listen to Vince Mcmahon talk forever
Imagine he had a podcast 😂
Maybe your perverted to.
This was very entertaining I was drinking the entire interview and enjoyed every minute
Drinking for 45 minutes straight? You must be hammered lol
@jacobjones4628 lmao! Dude is a badass.
Gotta respect Vince for sticking around and taking his best shot. He went down and got whacked but he got up and earned the respect of the guys and there's no boss in such a huge corporation that would ever, ever even think of doing that. Vince is a Mensch!
I was thinking the same thing. Is there another owner of ANYTHING you can think of, that would be man enough to stay there and let a guy as tough as Bret Hart, have a free shot? I dont think so.
Vince McMahon is a devisive personality. Some hate him, some like him, but I dont think anyone can honestly say that the guy doesnt face things like a man. He did it here, when the ring boy scandal hit, he didnt send some underling on Donahue or Larry King to face the heat. HE showed up to answer the tough questions. He did the same thing when the XFL embarrassingly flopped, and while I think Owen Hart's death was really sad and unnecessary, he was there to answer questions about that after it happened.
I admire the man. Hes worked as hard as anyone with a job in this country, and he doesnt just write checks, hes in it everyday and in every performance that the WWE has.
Nobody is perfect, but I think Vince earned everything he has.
@@chocolatetownforever7537 Vince only went in after the Undertaker threatened him to go talk to Bret.
@kronos911 He still went in, even if that is indeed the case. A lot of chaos going on, Taker has a locker-room perspective on the situation and maybe Vince was just smart enough to listen to Mark.
How does Vince D taste?
Respect lol
"and so forth"
"things of that nature"
"best in your future endevors"
"tail wagging the dog"
McMahonisms
I would suggest
"Quite frankly"
“The Babe Ruth of wrestling”
"To a certain extent"
Not withstanding
Lmfao!!!! Vince says outright “Yes, I lied to him”
He told the truth! Just that simple!
He told the truth about lying to Bret.
I think Vince got so tired of telling Bret about the plan that bret wouldn’t agree to that he just said “okay fine you win tonight and drop it tomorrow” and Vince just proceeded to tell shawn “He wouldn’t listen so we going to end it like this without him knowing”
It sounded like he was tryna get around it but nah lmao
@@KrayzieMurdait was Cornettes idea
I support Vinnie 💯. Truly the PT Barnum of my era.
Vince was spot on about there being havoc in the lockerroom at WCW 9:20
that look on vinnys face when he describes sable as sweet lmao
hes talking literal hahaha
when i see vince in an interview.. i understand why he is a billionaire! smart,restrained and sharp!
Vince: Part entrepreneur, Part gambler, Part politician, Part pioneer, Part chess player. All Business Man
100 percent psychopath
Part shitter
very true lol@@glassdoorgamer6344
I wish Vince would’ve asked Michael “would the Canadian people have loved Bret Hart any less if he lost the match clean?”
Landsberg has the ability to ask tough questions and still make it part of a pleasant conversation.
Vince played the association game very honestly - few people unfilter their words like that
You can see that Vince was so in love with HBK. He was Shawn's second biggest fan. Next to Shawn.
Oh he loved Michaels alright 🤔😬....
Bang on 👑 😂
Let's have him back now!
I like how Vince forgot that Bret had creative control in his contract. Lol
Reasonable creative control was the term, guy
Vince never once said he let Bret go because he could not draw, so to all the people who think that is the reason, it is nothing more than your opinion and not fact and certainly whatever you think could not trump what Vince says. The reason's Vince says is because of creative differences, Bret's injuries, and of course the amount of money they were paying Bret.
…which means he didn’t draw. He wasn’t “paying off” financially. If he did he wouldn’t have let him go. Plus other talent was bitching so he said “fuck it”
@@brixtonmystery Nash left WWF because Butt Hurt didn't want to take the powerbomb 🤣
Fantastic stuff🍿👍🏼
When Vince says Bret wanted things “on his terms” - what he leaves out is that VINCE AGREED TO THOSE TERMS!!! If Vince didn’t want to agree with his terms then he shouldn’t have signed the deal, but he did, and then he reneged on the contract. It’s like they totally ignore that Vince made a commitment and then broke it, so of course wanted things his way when Vince broke his commitment to him, DUH. Why would anyone expect to break a deal and then have the other guy give deference to what you want? He shouldn’t have broken the deal if he couldn’t handle what Bret wanted. It’s Vince’s fault.
The Lapsed Fan podcast covers your point in one of their incredibly in-depth Montreal Screwjob episodes. The deal was done, Bret had legitimate grounds to have Vince/Titan Sports sued for breach of contract. Bret's contract didn't expire until about 2 weeks AFTER the night of the screwjob.
@@mr.x9566in that ass!
@@mr.x9566I've never listened to that show. I don't like fan podcasts. I like podcasts from people that are in the business not someone trying to play know it all.
@@shadycnetwork How many episodes have you listened to?
@@shadycnetwork So you've NEVER listened to it but are also simultanously making assumptions about it?
One of The Lapsed Fan podcasts hosts is a legitimate journalist, had also worked with Sherdog, they collaborate with Vice TV at times. The other host, works at Madison Square Garden and has access to WWWF/WWF data pertain to events held there. They've covered all Wrestlemanias alongside Dave Meltzer. Covered the WCCW and the Von Erich Curse by combing through newspaper articles dating back to the early 1900, looking into Fritz's parents background. The Lapsed Fan also obtained all court documents and transcripts from the Vince McMahon Steroid trial. (That's how everyone and Linda, learned that Vince was cheating on her with his new PA and former playboy model Emily Feinberg, who was asked by Vince to store his steroids in his personal office fridge. They even managed to track down and interview the same teenage boy that was hanging around outside and inside the courtrooms, (playing with the wrestlers) that the news crews interviewed in 1994.
It's the only "fan" podcast I listen to because of the depth of which they're able to comb over historical information and events.
Even if you're not interested, that's okay. Someone else reading this, may be.
Have a good day 😊 👍🏼
VInce is talking so much shit here, Bret had creative control in his last 30 days so he did indeed have the right to say 'No'.
And people keep forgetting that Bret had creative control
Love them or hate them, vince mcmahon and dana white don't sidestep anything. Well I should say they aren't scared of the cameras or interviews. Plus whether right or wrong they definitely aren't afraid to tell you what they think and feel
The keg steakhouse and burrrr
Visited Vancouver from the UK a few years back. As soon as I store The Keg I was in there simply due to my love of OTR interviews 😂
These interviews are so interesting. Majority of us know everything that went down. You didn’t get much of a glimpse of behind the scenes nor were there many interviews. We were only limited to whatever these wrestlers decided to share with us on the rare interview. Today, thanks to the internet, the curtain is very much completely torn off.
Vince took the top guys from all the different territories back in the day. Now that WCW (Eric Bishoff, not Ted Turner) did it to, Vince, now its not fair. Lol. Vince is great at dodging certain things though. Genuis ha
Difference is Vince made them stars. WCW took advantage of WWF’ star power. The NWO wouldn’t have worked if Vince didn’t push the Diesel and Razor Ramon characters.
@@ITSHIM1294 WCW made Goldberg and DDP. Took sting and made it the top merch seller(yes, even above the NWO) started the (light weight wrestling boom) WCW made Booker T a top single talent as well.
@@nexpro6118 Booker T became a main eventer in 2000, in their worst period ever. More like they were forced after what was going on behind the scenes
@@ITSHIM1294 he was WCW champion multiple times......
@@nexpro6118 in 2000/2001, an era where guys like David Arquette and Vince Russo were booked as world champs. He was never world champ in the glory days of WCW
Bret is a hero the reason I know is because bret hart is my hero he gives me hope/strength I believe in bret 💖
Your hero is the Brett Hart that you saw on your tv screen. That's what Vince was referring to. It was the character you were attracted to, which was a result of people giving him the belt and allowing him to beat and pin them. You're hero is not Brett Hart the human being. It's the wrestler that you saw on their programming.
So now we got the real reason why Ahmed Johnson was released from wwe 39:22 to 39:50
Does anyone else see the irony in Vince talking about Ted Turner stealing wrestling talent.
Yeah, Greg and Verne were probably pissed off listening to this lying whopper.
Vince is the ultimate contender. He admits to fucking Bret over without overtly saying it, and he lost his "Babe Ruth" (I.E. the greatest in-ring storyteller of all time) by doing it. Nevertheless, he seems most excited when he's discussing new ideas and potential challenges. He didn't care when he lost Bret, Austin or Rock because he's always fixated on the next challenge.
He definitely cared when he lost Austin. It killed the ratings.
Everyone says Hogan, Flair, Rock, Taker, are the Goats! Nope! It's always been VKM! Ha.
Everyone says Savage and Bret more and Bischoff>McMahon.
@@brucegough who owned who though
If Vince hadn’t sided with HBK there would not have been an attitude era in the form we got it. No curtain call, Austin wouldn’t have won king of the ring, Tyson worked better with Austin v HBK than Bret would have. Plus we got this VKM . Not of that would have occurred without Montreal.
Bret didn’t want to lose in Canada , it wasn’t just about Michaels . Michaels got the title, we got heel Vince, Bret got $9 million. Everyone should have come out of this well , WCW couldn’t capitalise on it. EDIT
People don’t like my timeline evidently, Vince sided with HBK long before Montreal , and long after he still paid him. The curtain call isn’t meant to relate directly to Montreal. He refused to send back the IC title before mania 10 and went and made himself a superstar there , Vince saw something in him .
Shawn Michaels has nothing to do with most of that. And your timeline is laughable at best.
Lol. The curtain call and Austin's KOR win happened while Bret was there. Literally zero to do with Vince's choice of HBK near two years later.
What in gods name are you talking about
He said he'll live or die with his decisions real g
Actually it was The Undertaker who made Vince go to Bret and tell him why he did it!!!!
Sigh
@@Maradala Like it or not The Undertaker was the man in the locker room and was well respected for it like the time when he wrapped up his hands and waited backstage in case HBK didn’t put stone cold over at WM 👍
@@matthewfox3165 I like 'Taker, but that was just stupid of him to do so. For him to assume that Shawn would not do business, especially after Vince bringing in Tyson to add to the mix and with Shawn having a broken back, is just plain foolhardy. There is nothing heroic about it. It was Vince's call to screw Bret in Montreal, and it was Vince's call to go forward with Austin as the champion. 'Taker sitting at Gorilla position to take care of Shawn, when Vince already had everything chalked out and taken care of, is laughable to say the least. On top of it, 'Taker marks trying to elevate this up to some sort of god-like achievement or divine intervention, is even more laughable and ridiculous.
You do know that Shawn WASNT gonna put Stone Cold over right? He want to vacate the belt night after!!! You do know that Shawn was meant to put Bulldog over when he beat him for the European title!!! Shawn was just like Hall, Nash and Hogan in WCW. So do you blame the undertaker for doing what he did and was only doing it for the business and wanted the best for it!!! So yeah you can say how stupid it is but he did it because he didn’t want anything else like it did happen again.
@@siddharthakumar6467 Shawn had a history of coming up with something to avoid losing a title and just vacate it. To get Stone Cold his moment he needed to beat Shawn for the belt and Taker knew it and did not want to take a chance knowing Shawn.
"I'm not afraid of the "incredible hulk", I'm sure as hell not afraid of "hulk hogan", dammit!" I'm not afraid of the big bad wolf." -vkm
He was intimidated when Nailz had his hands around his throat
McMahon around this time period was way more dedicated to his company than the average Fortune 500 CEO who gets paid millions whether their company fails or succeeds.
You could run WWF for 1000 years and still not have such a good owner as Vince
The truth about the Vince vs Bret issue was the WWE was not in a good place financially and wanted to reconstruct Brets contract and when that wasnt possible they cut ties, and im sure Bret was a man of his word and wouldnt have walked off with the WWE title but from Vinces persepctive, he couldnt let that happen. I think the best idea for a solution was to have the Undertaker take the belt off Bret...but thats only for everyone walking away happy...the way it actually played out worked well for the introduction of the Evil Mr. McMahon character.
1998 Vince McMahon: "There are no rapes."
2024 Vince McMahon: 🤤🤤🤤
Is he charged with rape? No. Give your head a shake.
in toronto they have businesses that have pink colored/covered jelly filled baked goods called brett tarts.
No guns? Most of changed because I remember Brian Pillman shooting at Stone Cold. This was a great interview.
I can respect Vince’s answer: “Brett’s character is a Canadian Hero”. Landsberg seems confused that wrestlers are characters! Nonetheless, as a Canadian, any time a fellow Canuck makes it to the top of an industry, it’s a source of pride!
Well you got that wrong... You're the one who's confused.
@@Toni-QQ it’s nice to imagine that wrestling is real but dude they’re actors with scripts. There’s no reason why Brett Hart would have been given more wins than Hercules Hernandez or Texas Tornado. He should be counting his lucky stars to have been randomly placed on a top-20 pedestal as opposed to the other 500 wrestlers that didn’t have a fraction of his SCRIPTED glory. Nonetheless, I was still a fan of his and I’m proud that he’s Canadian. Vince ran the show in the 80’s and could have made Brett lose every match if he wanted to.
@@intellivisionmaster7999 lol
@@Toni-QQ lol you think wrestling is real
@@Toni-QQ Bret was old school/territory style... Where losing on TV or PPV on your way out diminished your value and ultimately what you got paid. That wasn't the case here but Bret held to the old school shit where losing in Canada wasn't something he would do.
Vince sais bret was distruptuve....years later everyone knows shawn was far worse along with the clique.
Bret was destructive because he didn’t want to be part of the attitude era, and was outspoken about it but only towards wwf not wcw…
@@Rypatriot regardless of his thoughts on the product he was willing to do business before shawn Michaels refused to put him or anyone else over
Butt Hurt's politics is a big reason why Nash left. Which draw was next if Vince let Burt Herb stay in the WWF. He was against the attitude era, the only reason why WWF still exists.
@@RG-lr4pk wasn’t his politics, if you know anything about that eras booking you’ll know why Bret didn’t want to take the power bomb
Do you?
Were you there?
Or you just hear what people you never met before say
For years I used to be on Bret’s side all the way with the screw job , but now I can understand Vince’s point of view, and can honestly say Brett took it way too seriously and dripping titled on your way out of a territory was common practice in the industry. Bret wasn’t damaged goods from it and he was about to become a multi millionaire …at the end of the day Vince was the boss, and you do what your told and move on
I question If Shawn Michaels really walked into the locker room one day and said "I'll never put you over" like Bret Hart claimed and based on why he wouldn't put Shawn over.
Yeah but Butt Hurt grew up 2000 miles away from Montreal so Bret can't lose. So basically he can only lose in California, British Columbia, and Alaska. In a fake sport btw. 🤣
I agree Marc, and I felt the same way at the time. Now though, Bret is full of it in my opinion. He is or atleast was a narcissist, and took himself and his fake character WAYYYY too seriously.
Im not perfect by any stretch, but I do believe the Sunny Days thing, and I dont buy Brets explanation of why he only talked about himself when he met with Vince after Owen's death. Regardless of the lawsuit, and if lawyers wanted him to not talk about the tragedy when meeting with Vince, theres a time and place for everything. Talking about your likeness, and getting access to pictures and videos of yourself while in the WWE so you can get them and use them for some money making idea you have, just seems wrong as a brother in that moment, idk.
I just dont buy the whole Bret Hart, im such a moral and honorable guy act. While Vince is no saint, I dont think Bret is either.
@@RG-lr4pk he lives next to bc. Can't lose there either
@@chocolatetownforever7537 Brets the goat buddy. Everybody had Sunny days
damn these are good. i think vinve mcmann is an outstanding individual.
Hogan back in 1998 was still doing great!
Not really. I mean doing well because of nwo but not because of himself
10:40 i absolutely agree with Vince here. Bret isnt anymore of a canadian hero than other canadians, its just the image that people love.
Vince is a man of honor. I like how he sticks up for himself!
That's some good shit pal!
Vince is amazing, a visionary, well ahead of his time, there was no way WCW got a chance against him.
AND he poops on employees!
TAKE THAT WCW!
He is clearly darkly manipulative, fascinating interview.
11:31 sounded like Vince said "WWE superstars
This man has been on top since I was a child. He is a definition of a life-long business success. He might be difficult, but he's a winner .... and he's been winning for DECADES!
Your comment is exactly what's wrong with society.
Vince’s way of saying we own that charecter
If there was ever a personification of evil...
How dramatic😅
"You sort of get swept away if you are part of a conglomerate."
And you made it easy as fuck for them to sweep you.
#BretsRevenge
19:45 - Vinny, Vinny, Vinny . . .
Lansberg should be put in wwe hof, nobody did wwe interviews like this except him.
Vince is always pretty damn well composed. Bravo for not dodging. "Bret thought it was going to be a disqualification." lol. I heard the recorded conversation on Wrestling with Shadows. Vince said "I would think it would be run in type thing." He alluded to a DQ. He did make Bret think that. Either way, great interview before they buried the hatchet.
So Vince was saying Bret began to break down so his worth began to dwindle. Even though they had somewhat of a father/son relationship and Bret gave him his all for so long. Gives you a glimpse into who Vince was as a person. I understand the business aspect, but you don't treat someone who has given you everything so little in return when he looks to you for a hand.
You don’t know everything that went down behind the scenes
I agree, but when ur talking millions of dollars, wwe is no different from the nfl pushing out the old for new talent.
Disney once said : innovate faster than his competitor can imitate
knowing the mechanics, knowing bret hart and vince mcmahon understanding of what good business is, this video is a historical proof that the screwjob was the best worked shoot in the history of pro wrestling.
8:50 are wrestler's employees, or independent contractors?
Telling us the future of WWF.
Classic interview
BS that Brets body was breaking down. Yes he had knee surgery in 1997 but still appeared in storyline and had great matches before and after the knee surgery. Prior to that he was an iron man missing just 2 shows in 14 years. Now what is true is that Bret didn't like the direction the company was taking in the attitude era with all the sexuality, foul language, and vulgarity. The biggest issue came down to money I believe. Vince couldn't afford or didn't want to honor the long contract they had signed.
Also, Bret deserves more credit for being a Canadian Hero than Vince wants to give him. If it was that easy Vince could create heros from any country he would please.
Finally, Vince didn't leave like a coward that night on Montreal because he knew if he did after screwing Bret Hart it would have caused a locker room mutiny. Everyone from Undertaker, to Stone Cold, to Mankind, to Shamrock, etc highly admired and respected Bret. The WWF would have been left a shadow of its self with only DX and some lower and mid card guys left. Taking that punch from Bret saved Vince and his company. And to his credit, he launched the Mr. McMahon character thanks to the screwjob and he was lucky Stone Cold was so hot and was the perfect feud for Mr McMahon
Come on. He was definitely breaking down. His career ended 2 years after this and in those two years he hardly did anything of note. He had hit his 40s by this point in early 98. He was on his way down.
@@Liverpool5095 Bret was still having great matches. The reasons why his final two years were not more noteworthy was one, because WCW sucked and couldn't figure out how to use him, and two, Owen tragically dying led to Bret taking a break from the ring, which you can't blame him. The reason his career ended was the concusion(s) in the Goldberg Match, and making it worse by wrestling several more times after that instead of taking time off to heal.
Vince would of been a good politician in that I think he's very honest and professional. Opposite to all politicians currently
That suit and his tonality of voice gives me governor vibes. 😂
Every time I watch one of these videos I'm pavlovianly wired to think about The Keg.
I love the fact that Vince is literally crying about WCW in the second half of the show when he spent the first half talking crap about Bret Hart crying about everything.
@12:35 Brett definitely has a tendency to be a crybaby. Glad Vinny Mac said it!
WWE was still big when this broadcast LOL eat your hearts out wwf fan boys. WCW was wiping the floor with Vince.
When Vince says "no guns" im hoping this was before the austin/pillman angle 😅
Vince nicely promoted all these nobody's we call Bret, Austin, Rock. Without Vince, no wrestling superstars.
@@ChimChim-di6jz Undertaker's idea was Vince's as confirmed by Mark and Bruce Prichard in UT Documentary "The Last Yard". Again, without Vince's vision and talent scouting skills, we wouldn't have superstars to look upto.
Vince seems fairly normal and even likeable here.
October 2023. I still ADORE Vince. Always will. You know what's crazy? He can get an Irish Passport. His grandfather was from Galway. He genuinely would be left alone here Ireland. He could live a comfortable, low-tax life. Still can't understand why he doesn't retire in Ireland. He also might have to lay Linda a lot less. Vince McMahon is my hero. Usual suspects for the new age might be popular RUclipsrs and TilTokers but VMcM is one of MANY who made too much of Irish heritage.. more-so in the fighting business.
He can retire here, live a happy life and nobody will every bother him because us Irish would want to bother anyone
Lmao who is even talking about Ireland? Ireland sucks
In Canada they have a holiday, it's called national Bret Hart day.
You, Brock and Johnny Ace some nasty MFers Vinny Mac 😂😂
16:56 Journalist: “Is there anything that’s out-of-bounds for you guys right now?”
Vince McMahon: “Uh well sure, I think that there might be some things that are out-of-bounds, I mean there are no guns, there are no knives, there’s no r*pes, there’s no robberies.” - Vince McMahon in 1998
I love how much OTR loves Bret and goes to bat for him. Right to Vince’s stupid face.
You just don’t get stuff like this anymore.
Yes Vince did cheat Bret and worst I can hold him accountable for is Owens death but I still prefer WWE over AEW
😂😂😂 wwe sucks
WWF yes , WWE is garbage
You still watch wrestling? Poor sucker
This interviewer was pushing his luck , Vince must have liked him.
Multiple reasons, one is Vince already told him he will answer any questions, seconds he has been on the show multiple times, and third it is like going to Howard Stern and not expecting some edgy questions or confrontational questions.