NOT WORLD CLASS! ❌ Duke McKenzie says Fabio Wardley & Frazer Clarke are NOWHERE NEAR World level!
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Gareth for Fk sake stop interrupting him !!! Your rude
I know he won't let him finish his sentence, so annoying.
@@Lennox032 had to turn it off mate
Terrible interviewer trying to influence Dukes response
@@lloydcrooks712 it’s the disrespect he has for duke .. talking over a former 3 weight world champion like that cutting him. Off mid sentence and completely changing the subject before he can finish his answer .. he has massive ego
Did you see the bit when GAD asked him about Fury v Usyk 😂 Davies was silenced, he was lost for words
Gareth needs to listen more 😂
Exactly what I was thinking putting his 2p in every time
Can't stand him
To be fair, he’s not normally like that.
~Funny, i came the the comments to make that very same comment. GThought it was just me... Dude has to button it just for 10 seconds man!!! jeeeeez
Too much gear
Dukes a breath of fresh air
Shame Duke not on Sky or other platforms anymore. Truth.
@@trefitz1 probably wasn't being a company man, yanno how they work
I like Dukes voice calming AF
Duke needs to be on TV. Talks so much sense
Duke talked too much sense for Sky...
@@dgnoel4180yeah, to honest
Just let Duke speak ffs
I thought EXACTLY the same
Gareth loves the sound of his own voice Jesus let the man speak
Hooray, an honest expert, a real expert too
The guy boxed at the weight of sugar and compared himself to heavyweights but you praise him? You are lost
@@Becks_2121duke speaks the truth
Finally someone who speaks the truth. Both are not going to be world beaters.
@@Becks_2121 He has a vast array of Boxing know how, weight of course changes some things but not the fundamentals.
@@chrisshaw9836 He speaks bs, comparing juiced up 15 round fighters to clean athletes is mad. It's a reason the banned substance list exists
Duke was a three-weight world champion, kids. Show his some respect.
So refreshing to hear a honest not kissing someone's behind interview. Duke has so much boxing experience and knowledge
So many people going way over the top claiming this was the best fight ever. It was an entertaining domestic scrap, but the standard was poor, let’s be honest.
Certified Virgin 🤣
Two lumps knocking each other about
Shut up Gareth!! Please, listen 😮
Duke’s absolutely superb…
Gareth needs to take a minute and let someone else speak
One of the greatest British boxers of all time and one of the most astute, used to love listening to him when he did the sky commentary, his boxing knowledge is second to none.
I listen to this despite GAD, not because of him. The prat ruins it!
Duke was right on everything he said. Enjoyed listening to him especially knowing how good he actually was himself.
Duke knows what he’s talking about…Gareth doesn’t 😂😂😂
Duke is on the ball, knows his stuff!! Plus he backs Usyk to do the business on Fury which I agree with. Good to see someone on talksport who doesnt suck up to Fury like that Fury cheerleader Gareth Davies.
It was a very good domestic scrap for fans but neither were world class.
that is the last type of fight you want to have if you are a boxer; fans love that head bashing bruising type of fighting but for a boxer it's a damaging fight that can have long term effects.
No trainer in the world will say 'that's how i want my guy to box' - people don't really understand how badly the brain gets battered during a boxing match like that, it can knock years off of a fighters career.
If they do it again then they both seriously need to work on their skills and defense: both guys have a lot of heart and courage - maybe too much - but you need to be smarter than that.
Look at Lennox Lewis: people criticized his style saying he should have got into more toe to toe scraps instead of cautiously breaking down guys, but when you listen to Lennox speak today he's pin sharp, alert, and very healthy. Contrast that with Riddick Bowe and Holyfield today, both are slurring and have cognitive issues, both fought face first in their careers....
Wardley and Clarke are good boxers, of the two I'd say Wardley can change his style the most as he's still young, but a long way off world class.
I'd rather fight smart and stay healthy than fight brave and get busted.
The Mckenzies of London, Great fighting family! Well said the Duke,
Love Duke McKenzie. Was a world class fighter and is so good as a pundit he makes the GAD bearable.
Duke Mckenzie needs to commentate on sky , boxxer, tnt, in Saudi, you follow! No bias , informed answers to Gareth’s poor questioning ,this man is needed on commentary , big up duke
Guy boxed at 9 stone n wants to compare his fitness to 19 stone men? Come on man that’s not fair at all
For sure but I get his point, Both Fabio and Wardley gassed after a couple of rounds which isn't a good reflection of their stamina tank.. You wouldn't see that with Usyk, Ali, Norton, Frazier etc,.
you make good points but he literally used himself as the yardstick for measuring their fitness
duke knows his stuff mate was a good fighter to talks a lot of sense
@ThaLatePizzaBoi Usyk is a generational talent and the greatest cruiserweight ever. He is definitely up there with the all time greats. Even more so if he becomes undisputed against Fury
Duke's calmness and wisdom on the sport is a breath of fresh air to the hype and rubbish spoken half the time today. When Duke said they're not world class because of their engines he's bang on. Lets not forget what world class used to mean with the Bowe v Holyfield fitness levels and Lewis v Holyfield standard. As great a british title fight as this was they were still not at the fitness levels you would demand from the elite guys of the division.Duke was spot on.
Duke always dropping that real knowledge.
Gareth makes a better writer than a listener. You know if someone says "No", he's licking necks!
We need Duke McKenzie back on comms on fight nights. We need someone like him and Carl Froch who talk the truth
I got it. The boys were blowing early on. They aren't world level. But look how long AJ, Usyk, and Fury have been boxing in the pro game. They are veterans. This is british and commonwealth level. Those boys will improve with time, and if they keep the hard work, they'll get there too.
They get where? Neither win a world title trust me. Fringe world at the very best. Neither are kids 29 and 33. It was decent scrap to be fair but domestic or European at best.
Finally some perspective ❤️👍
Duke really speaks sense. His analysis was spot on!
Gareth Davies needs his hard drive checking. He’s in with Pdiddy. There’s gonna be a ‘surviving Gareth Davies’ doc one day
based on what?
I'm reporting you to the police for defamation and libel, delete this post and grow up.
😂😂
@@kevinb9830 his noncey zesty tendencies and him being the only 60 year old who actively vapes on camera
Top comment as well yes the boys 😂👍👊
Duke McKenzie - someone who knows about boxing - stay with us please Duke proper boxing commentary at last on talk sport
That was a sick fight!! Stop hating on a good fight mate
I agree with u it was a sick fight bro but remember everyone is entitled to their opinion
@@darrennandrewfitness2836 because it was a good fight don't make them world class they are European level at best. He's talking sense
@@nathanbell6899 to each their own brother 👍🏿
@@darrennandrewfitness2836 you're quite right matey loool
Finally someone talk with some common sense Wardley is on the verge of being world class but frazer has some way to go. I think Wardley ko frazer in the rematch.
Wardley has no defence and was eating uppercuts for fun.He's exciting to watch but far from world level.
Proper British heavy wight showdown 👍
Duke please start your own RUclips channel. He'd get mega hits.
Might not be world class but this bloke knows f all
Duke or Gareth ?
Duke or Gareth ?
Says someone in a TalkCrap comments section
@@Dan-qk3mt yeah but I ain't getting fukin paid to talk crap am I
Agreed!
This guy who thinks its sunny in the studio sould give his gob a rest
British title level is not world class. World class is world title challenging. Does duke ever praise British boxers?
Duke kickin knowledge
Physical fight not a technical one, both limited. Duke spot on.
best heavyweight fight ever pmsl
When you have Duke on, you listen, you don't talk over him.
Duke McKenzie the best pundit in boxing
Weeeell, what is world level in heavyweight today? I have trouble finding 10 active names who would beat them today, so they must be relatively near world level...
In 3 years time fab and fraze will be closer to world level as the level will drop when then top 5 retire (within 2-3 years) but currently there are 10-15 names that would beat them both.
The problem with this current heavyweight division is it is poor in quality throughout.
Arguably the poorest it has even been in terms of top quality boxing.
Apart from the top 3-5 names nobody really stands out or has proved to be a top contender.
When the top 5 retire we will get some good exiting fights but the actual standard of boxing will drop again.
But as long as the fights are good, I for one won’t be complaining.
@@magnificentmiz8317 I don't disagree that they need more time, but 15? Please go ahead and mention them. I don't mean 15 who might beat them, but 15 who almost certainly will.
Usyk, Fury, AJ, Parker, Zhang, Anderson, Hrgovic, Sanchez, Ajagba, Dubois, Bakole, Wilder.
There's a dozen that are established I don't think they beat without knowing too much about any up and coming prospects.Even Joyce,Ruiz and Ortiz would be troublesome for these guys.
It was still a great fight to watch though👏
@@trondwillyfry8000
Aj,fury, usyk, Parker, Whyte, Dubois, Ruiz, Wilder, Kabayel, Zhang, Sanchez, Hrgovic, Bakolie, Hunter and Jalalov beat the pair of them easily.
Arguably Joyce, Ortiz, Chisora, Ajagba, Anderson and Makhmudov beat them both also.
You can add maybe Franklin and maybe a Wallin. I could go on. Takam, etc…
Without counting I think that’s over 15 active heavyweight fighters that should arguably win against Fab and Fraze.
There are at least another 10-15 good active heavyweight fighters that they could both fight like and be involved in big nights and ultimately get paid.
Look at boxrec to check resumes there are lots of good fights to be made in the heavyweight division.
It’s just some may be unknown to casual fans.
But if you put them on a big Saudi undercard, fans won’t complain as long as the fights are 50/50 fights and end up being good scraps.
What do you think?
@@magnificentmiz8317 I do agree exiting times ahead, but not sure about all the names you mentioned though. On your easily list: Jalalov has a perfect record but has fought absolutely nobody of worth. Whyte and Hunter have both looked terrrible the last years, and I would pick Wardley over them. Kabayel looked exellent in his last fight, but before that he was tought of as just an okay fighter. I do however believe he's the real deal, and think he has a good shot against Sanchez. And Wilder...guess we don't know yet, he might be done or maybe not.
Frazer clarke schooled wardley. Everyone hs trouble admitting they were wrong in the UK
He got dropped and stunned so no. Clarke got schooled
@@remonimodexd7116 just like fury wilder 1… wilder got schooled
@@schultzywillpa26 ?wilder wasn’t competitive in that fight till the last round. Fabio schooled Clarke at times too. Boxed very well and so did Clarke
@@schultzywillpa26you’re comparing a fight in which wilder barely won a round to a fight that was razor tight? What part of casualshire do you live in pal? Lol, usually after the fight fans will give opinions on who they think won and on this occasion there were very few people who didn’t have it a draw or by a round or two either way, Frazer was definitely the more well schooled fighter fundamentally but there is no way he schooled anyone in that fight, he had good success with his jab but wardleys athleticism, tenacity and punch power made it close.
@@kiely4561 frazer clarke taught wardley a lesson and got robbed. The low blow was bullshit and everyone was rooting for wardley. Fury was robbed too
I have to agree with the title. as good of a fight it was it wasnt anywhere near world level.
Duke was one hell of a fighter
Duke educated this boxing novice.
Thanks Duke 👏🏾
Why doesn't Gareth shut up and let Duke speak.
I tried to watch this because I wanted to hear what McKenzie had to say, but Gareth A Davies ruined it and I gave up after a couple of minutes.
Agree with Duke 100%
GAD can't bring himself to critique fighters since he's too much a part of the media machine now, the way he was surprised at Duke saying, rightly, they're not world class sums it up.
Gareth Interupts and knows FA about boxing.
In horseracing terms, they are fully exposed which means they have peaked no more than domestic level..
Gareth been on the chop?
Hes honest 2 british level fighters beat the brakes off each other,be honest neither will go any further this is their pinacle ,i dont agree that they can become world beaters as hard fights like that physically rapes you,but i pray im wrong.
GAD “one of the best heavyweight fights of all time”?? What a twit . Thank goodness we have Duke someone who actually knows about boxing. Stop talking so much please davis
They are top 20 in the world just
Gareth has an incredibly annoying trait of not only interrupting but talking, then pausing and then just talking over anyone when they start to speak themselves.
Why have a guest on if you won't let them actually say anything?
What he means is they're not on juice.
Team Honest Duke, this was a decent competitive fight, what we should have a few times a year but we don’t, particularly with the heavyweights. Knock over jobs often. Then inactivity and ducking.
Gareth let him finish his sentences
Gareth stop interrupting for god sake
To be fair i reckon if aj was in an absolute slugfest for 12 rounds, he'd be ruined at the end just like clarke was
People said this about Fury when he was a novice.
you mean when he was 20 years old?
@channel55andaboxoftissues16 when he was boxing at or around British level. Chisora was favourite to beat Fury in their first fight.
@@showup001.Don't waste your breath mate, this guy a certified AJ fan boy. He's forgetting back in the 15 rounds days they were juiced up to the eye balls and using every ban substance on the list today. 🤡
Pre peds
Remember Duke was the only pundit who backed Holyfield to beat Tyson in their first fight, then changed his mind ringtime.....Shame.
Dukes all day long! Real.
Agreed, Duke is decent.
Gareth let the man finish a sentence Ffs
They wont be either but thats okay they will still earn a few quid out of british level fights
Garth Davis, can you PLEASE let DUKE speak....please
GAD intimidated by Dukes common sense and knowledge. At least he has his luscious locks…
GARETH HAS A WHIFF OF LAVENDER ABOUT HIM. IM SURE HE HANGS AROUND SOHO
Who said they was world class? Never seen the "world class" of that division in a scrap that good.
Ffs let duke have his say and stop interrupting Gareth
GAD let the man speak
Would be nice to hear Duke get a word in. That Davies fella is a prat
The GAD loves the sound of his own voice . If he was made of chocolate he would eat himself
There's not many world class heavyweights though. Only maybe 2 or 3
Just Usyk and maybeeeee Fury
Defining world class in the heavyweight division is harder since their skillsets aren’t as high as smaller men, alot of these guys in the top 10 have certain world class attributes, Wilder can’t box for toffee but has always had world class power, Andy Ruiz has world class hand speed, zhang is slow as molasses but punches insanely hard, theres world class and then elite world class which for me is only Fury, Usyk and AJ, guys who can move athletically, change and adapt their styles etc.
Gareth please shut up and listen.
More of Duke
GAD makes me ill! Fire him off
I agree with Duke, they'd both get found out if they stepped up.Gareth is annoying to listen to.
Why is gareth on this station? Ffs he loves the sound of his own voice and is trying to tell a boxing man how boxing works.
Fight wasn’t all that stop it 😂
You don't have to be in the heavyweight division lol
Frazer did enough to win the fight.
Can Gareth Davis just shut up for a second and listen.
Jonathan a Davies
Gareth needs to stop talking,duke is a 3 weight world champion,listen to his knowledge. Gareth thinks he knows boxing but duke has forgotten more than gareth with ever know. I agree with duke,these arnt world class at all great domestic fight but thats it,its levels.
They were well matched but neither is any of kind epic talent, Frazer Clarke has brought so much of his Olympic style with him, he needs to learn the dark arts more, little bit of nasty in his work, odd proper low shot, no point unless it hurts bad.
Fabio Wardley is quick and very tough and is learning fast, i agree with the draw however annoying they are. In my opinion Wardley will learn more and is younger, i think don't bother with rematch yet, have a few fights more and fight again in a couple of years.
I wish both men well in their future fights.
Hahaha, Gareth being forced to listen to a dose of (much ignored) reality… and he don’t like it ;)
What reality? it was a very good BRITISH title fight...so how is not ''world class'' even remotely relevant?
At least that both came to fight regardless of what level it was a breath of fresh air to watch… miles better than any fight AJ or fury have been in for years
What a plonker, does he not realise back in the day of 15 round fights,the fighters were using every banned substance on the list today. Not fit 🤡
What???
Wardley & Frasier are both really likeable blokes but nowhere near world class, and I don't think they will be unfortunately.
BREATH OF FRESH AIR. IS DUKE..
Wardley has very little defence, if Frazer was a big puncher the fight would have been over in a round, none of them are anywhere near top level,
Please get rid of Gareth. You can do better. Terrible vibes. Big up Duke.