Especially given that this is clearly underpowered from the start, the 16-voice plus version is inevitable. I assume you may be able to upgrade your $500 synth for $400 plus $80 in shipping.
I’m disappointed that it doesn’t support audio over USB. With three distinct synth voices, it seems fairly obvious that you would want the ability to record them individually into a DAW or other recorder. Lacking that, we’d have to resort to all sorts of convoluted workflows involving recording performances as MIDI data and then muting and re-tracking the audio one voice at a time.
This is so well worked out. The way the 3 synths interact harmonically is clever and useful. It also sounds really good. Also a great price and probably a no brainer to sync up with the Tracker. Very good. 🙂
This combines all Korg range into one device, so it is a no-brainer. Finally a good move by Polyend. There is no point in limiting a device to only one type of synth engine when esentially they are all software running on same hardware (I am looking at you, Korg).
Nah. How many computers, let alone digital or analog synths can run 8 voices over three engines with real time modulation, effects and 3 sequencers/Arp polyrhythmic time dividers/multipliers. I can’t think of anything stand alone that can touch this. For the price, and ease of use. Looks faster to use than anything I’ve ever encountered
Looks awesome. The polyphony limits seems like a real problem, though. With all of those engines, having more polyphony would really make a difference. A better processor might have solved this, but it would hit a higher price point. It's a competitive market, so I get why they did it, but it's a shame. The Synth 2 will come out with double the voices at a higher price quite soon, I'd think.
I seriously don't get the limited polyphony of new synths and samplers. E-MU samplers and the Virus range of synths from the 20 years ago had polyphony in the hundreds...
Don't tell anybody. I think it's pretty awesome that you can still get a JV-2080 or Proteus 2000 for about half the price of this thing. I horde Planet Phatts and XV-5050s like Florian hordes TB-3s. 😂
Not to mention that the '90s Rolands have three FX engines with about 80 different effects, and the E-mus have a ton of resonant/formant filters to choose from.
Might have to do with the resolution (speed) of the synth engines. I mean, these synthesis algorithms might be more intensive? I do not know, I’m a musician, not an engineer. So my “solution” to the 8 voice “limitation” is just harmony. After 5 notes, chords become too muddled to be identifiable (4-note chord are all you need for any type of tonal music); beyond that, you’d just be just duplicating notes. Duplicating notes has timbral effects but you wouldn’t be needing much of that in a multitimbral instrument. Better to experiment with timbral combinations. Also, we’re at a time when having this as “only” synth would be rare. We all have collections now. Polyphony and multitimbrality are easier to buy today.
Nice device, and support the pad form for desktop convenience over attempting to house it in another spacing-taking keyboard that meets everyone's demands. Shame about the 8 voice limit, multi-timbrality with far more voices would be a big hit. No doubt there are technical constraints.
There'll be synth+ in about a year which they'll be working on now, rather than ironing out the inevitable firmware bugs that Polyend are renowned for.
I'd wait until they inevitably release "Synth+" six months down the road, and get the original at half the price or the successor with half the bugs at double the price. /: Polyend have a unfortunate tendency to convert customers in paying beta testers for their prototypes. I have serious problems with Polyend jumping on the next shiny thing, without fixing the last one they hyped. I love my tracker, but a couple firmware updates down the road it still has a lot of ui jank, missing features and bugs ..and of course they released tracker+ with again a half baked firmware, which incorporates new features introducing brand new jank, without fixing the flaws of the original.
Looks nice. I do wish though that there was more hardware that implemented modal synthesis without using the mutable instruments code, im not a big fan of how elements sounds but i love modal synthesis
does it play well with external hardware? the whole interface is really clever; it would make an interesting sequencer/live tool even without the synth engines; I'd be super interested with a combination of the play ideas and this for a fully featured sequencer (a bit like the oxi one). shift + note to hold one note is a killer idea, the follow option and split keyboard as well
All the victims posting here still harping on about the trauma of ending up out of pocket by a couple of hundred bucks on resell value of their Play V1. Believe or not petals, despite the severe trauma you’re all going through… you may be surprised to hear there are like about 7 billion folks on this planet dealing with far worse than you. Hang on in there. Keep posting your grievances. We’re all ears. 👍
for 500 dollars, its very competitive. i would like to have seen an integrated sequencer in it. Polyend is really going strong with their devices lately.
@@tColorsinspacerecordings ah ok, i didnt see all the features. it looked like me that it was a sort of extended arp, but if you can save the sequences then thats a big plus also
@@typemismatch2712 I think what’s more interesting is that we’ve got a dozen or so companies out here pumping a new product every few months, along with the literally dozens of pedal companies doing just fine and 40 years ago, there was maybe 5 companies in this entire space and it would take 3 years to produce an instrument that the entire fate of the company rested on, would end up being a bona fide classic and worth tens of thousands of dollars decades later and the company would still go out of business. Will any of these things be iconic 40 years from now?
@@esSKay25 they won't be iconic. That time is over, maybe some synths will be icons i dont know. There's a lot to choose from these days. There are more small synthesizer companies nowadays, probably because technical things have become easier in making a synth. Sometimes its a raspberry PI inside, with a dedicated controller box around it. But to pay 20,000 dollars for a roland jupiter-8 is just stupid. These synths need a lot of maintenance, are old. They should put those synths in a museum or something. If you have the money and resources, buying a real old analog synth is of course fantastic. But most beginning producers seem to think you can only work in the box. But the most fascinating synth for me is a softsynth. Its Razor, which does everything with like 312 sine particles, and the weird thing is, even the effects are made with these particles. They should bring out a hardware version of that synth. I find it genious. I would not really use it though, because i miss the dedicated physical controls. I always miss something when editing a software synth, like i cant make contact with it, because its on my screen. But, to answer your comment, i dont know how they will look at this period 30 years in the future. I like that the playing field is being leveled. I fully endorse what behringer does. Nobody has the amount of money you gotta pay if you want the classics in the studio. Thats maybe an unfortunate truth. But then, the development of electronic instruments has been since the early 1900s, thats a rather short time. If you look at the synth development, the landmark was the introduction of the minimoog i think. Maybe arp was a little bit earlier with their modular systems, although moog was also doing things in that direction. Also, people who made eurorack modules, with sometimes only 3 persons in the company, and get succesfull, sometimes these companies also begin to make hardware. Look at the Supercritcal Redshift 6, an analog synth that isnt out yet. but based on their demon core oscillator eurorack module. Behringer did it also that way, the new Grind synth is based on their brains eurorack module. I like this synth because the osc is digital, the rest is analog. Thats always a nice combination. And offcourse, there is still technical development going on, so we will see. But i'd rather have the situation we are in know, because there are more companies doing things, not only korg, roland, yamaha and all these big companies. Im not after classics, i respect these synths for what they have meant in the whole development of electronic instruments. But now more people can afford hardware, and thats a good thing, people need to come out of the box more. Its not necessary to work only in your daw.
The polyphony does not meet the realistic expectations of 2024 despite the selection of synthesis engines. It’s like putting 3 gears on a V6. A powerful engine you’ll never be able to make full use of. Head scratching stuff.
I like how he's trying to pretend he's playing it like an Osmose by wiggling his finger, but it doesn't actually do anything when he wiggles his finger. 😂
Typically when you wiggle a pad that supports aftertouch, it varies the aftertouch level a bit. At least that is the case on other devices I have. Actually that's can sometimes even be the case on aftertouch keyboards. Obviously you have to set the aftertouch to something useful in the mod-matrix
so from what i have seen, you have 8 voices that you can allocate to the 3 engines however you want but the physical modeling engine is limited to 2 voices.
Missing IO, 3 synth need more then 1 stereo OUT, 3 stereo Out, 1 or 3 IN for modulation something - like filter. The layout with constrains setup for the synths, for playing is nice, good job - I read some issue with the voice count. You will see warings in the display - so like a pc - this is not for me. Bye.
So you purchased a device over a year after it released and got angry they released an upgraded version of a device you were happy to purchase at the time? This argument lacks so much logic
But….but…Where are the keys??I play keys, I don’t know how to push buttons..😢. This thing is what modular synths are to people who only twist knobs. And yes, not everyone plays piano but it’s just ridiculous everything needs RGB buttons nowadays.
@@RockLobster223 it's a separate device because it's a separate device? thanks for clearing that up with such powerful logic. i think i'm starting to understand why polyend's customer base is happy to deal with their puzzling product iteration / division strategy.
Ok ok ok....... Maybe I'm old. Too old I guess but can someone tell me HOW THE HELL DO YOU KNOW WHAT CUBES aka NOTES to hit in order to play any of these devices!! I can't be the only one.....Can't be
I struggle with this a lot on devices, the pad layout segment of the video ultimately covers this off. And no doubt there's logic in this, but often it'll come down to muscle memory to some degree. In scale mode, for instance, the follower keeps every pad in key with your root playing note. So it's more around creating musical harmonies and sense to those like me that don't have musical theory in any way. Hope that helps.
On my polyend tracker I added a bunch of sticky labels underneath the pads indicating which notes are on them. Of course that doesn't work if it changes all the time.
As if the keys on a piano or the fretboard of a violin are labelled. It's an instrument, you gotta learn to play it, that's all. And i be there's a manual where it is explained how notes are mapped to the buttons. Dumbest take on electronic instruments ever.
More than likely, you’ll be able to set the scale and the root note bottom left, and go up the scale from there to the top of the pads. I hope that helps.
@@Clee3421 Yes, meaning there's even less with some engines (4 regarding the physical modelling)... But I guess some clever programming might help in future? Unlimited voices for granular is not especially what most of us want BUT it's still a great synth and it has some very nice scales + multi-timbrality! +USB power and portability!
Guy in the demo shaking his finger on the pads as if it's a Roli responding to it like it's some kind of vibrato. No, just him being a pretentious tool 🙄
@starflek I see you don't understand that polyphonic aftertouch is a vertical key press movement not one triggered by fake, lateral movement as performed by this clown. Roli respect lateral movement, this doesn't so he should stop pretending that side-to-side motion counts and so should you 🤡
My “solution” to the 8 voice “limitation” is just learning some harmony. After 5 notes, chords become too muddled to be identifiable (4-note chord are all you need for any type of tonal music); beyond that, you’d just be just duplicating notes. Duplicating notes has timbral effects but you wouldn’t be needing much of that in a multitimbral instrument. Better to experiment with timbral combinations. Also, we’re at a time when having this as “only” synth would be rare. We all have collections now. Polyphony and multitimbrality are easier to buy today.
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It's ticking all the boxes.
At first sight...
@@stefanherzog 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@stefanherzog i hear already the voice welcome to ..... because its not what it seems ....
@@stefanherzogglance* 😂
All 60 of them?
Ahh, I remember the 64 voices plus effects on my 1992 Korg Workstation. Happy days.
Cool! Not everyone is into beats, beats, beats. And more beats.
It does beats
@@DoctorRevers but can it do beats with more beats?
More beats as this is just dumb and a yawn fest.
Ill wait for the Synth+ to be released in 3 weeks
PolyEnd site says shipping within 2 business days
Ha ha ha!
“People don’t forget …” ~ Seth, Superbad
How else are they going to sell you the extra outputs and the capability not to overload the CPU when you use it . .
Especially given that this is clearly underpowered from the start, the 16-voice plus version is inevitable.
I assume you may be able to upgrade your $500 synth for $400 plus $80 in shipping.
Feels like its following in the footsteps of Medusa, which is a space they haven't filled in a while, and I think this is a great followup
I’m disappointed that it doesn’t support audio over USB. With three distinct synth voices, it seems fairly obvious that you would want the ability to record them individually into a DAW or other recorder. Lacking that, we’d have to resort to all sorts of convoluted workflows involving recording performances as MIDI data and then muting and re-tracking the audio one voice at a time.
This is so well worked out. The way the 3 synths interact harmonically is clever and useful. It also sounds really good. Also a great price and probably a no brainer to sync up with the Tracker. Very good. 🙂
when the + version with 24 voices coming out?
Immediately impressed tbh, now have to learn what this box is about
Really interesting concept…looks fun to jam on!
This combines all Korg range into one device, so it is a no-brainer. Finally a good move by Polyend. There is no point in limiting a device to only one type of synth engine when esentially they are all software running on same hardware (I am looking at you, Korg).
You can always grab a Korg Krome EX or Nautilus for a multi-engine synth, duh.
8 voices total for three synth engines. That seems kind of slim.
Nah. How many computers, let alone digital or analog synths can run 8 voices over three engines with real time modulation, effects and 3 sequencers/Arp polyrhythmic time dividers/multipliers. I can’t think of anything stand alone that can touch this. For the price, and ease of use. Looks faster to use than anything I’ve ever encountered
@@TronDawg All good points, Tron. \m/
@@TronDawg the decade old Korg electron could do it.
It sounds AMAZING! Sounds like my Christmas present! ;)
11:42. OMG. It sounds beautiful. Radioheadish
That follow chord mode is ridiculous... Cool box.
It exists on the oxi one as well. very cool feature indeed
Looks awesome. The polyphony limits seems like a real problem, though. With all of those engines, having more polyphony would really make a difference. A better processor might have solved this, but it would hit a higher price point. It's a competitive market, so I get why they did it, but it's a shame. The Synth 2 will come out with double the voices at a higher price quite soon, I'd think.
That's what I'll be waiting for 👍
Very nice. Good price too. Will be checking it out for sure.
I seriously don't get the limited polyphony of new synths and samplers. E-MU samplers and the Virus range of synths from the 20 years ago had polyphony in the hundreds...
Don't tell anybody. I think it's pretty awesome that you can still get a JV-2080 or Proteus 2000 for about half the price of this thing. I horde Planet Phatts and XV-5050s like Florian hordes TB-3s. 😂
Not to mention that the '90s Rolands have three FX engines with about 80 different effects, and the E-mus have a ton of resonant/formant filters to choose from.
Might have to do with the resolution (speed) of the synth engines. I mean, these synthesis algorithms might be more intensive? I do not know, I’m a musician, not an engineer. So my “solution” to the 8 voice “limitation” is just harmony. After 5 notes, chords become too muddled to be identifiable (4-note chord are all you need for any type of tonal music); beyond that, you’d just be just duplicating notes. Duplicating notes has timbral effects but you wouldn’t be needing much of that in a multitimbral instrument. Better to experiment with timbral combinations. Also, we’re at a time when having this as “only” synth would be rare. We all have collections now. Polyphony and multitimbrality are easier to buy today.
sounds great i also loved his answer to the updates lol
Sounds fabulous! I'd love to have one!
Sounds great! Another amazing Polish product! 💪💪💪
Shocking price for something that struggles with the paltry 8 voices it has.
Straight to Bad Gear 😂
It's got 3 synths assigned to key groups basically but how does that apply to midi keyboard connections?
Nice device, and support the pad form for desktop convenience over attempting to house it in another spacing-taking keyboard that meets everyone's demands. Shame about the 8 voice limit, multi-timbrality with far more voices would be a big hit. No doubt there are technical constraints.
There'll be synth+ in about a year which they'll be working on now, rather than ironing out the inevitable firmware bugs that Polyend are renowned for.
I wonder if people are still fuming at this company for how they have handled past products and offerings.
Thought it would rival the Medusa until i saw the interface. They should get back with Dreadbox imho
I'd wait until they inevitably release "Synth+" six months down the road, and get the original at half the price or the successor with half the bugs at double the price. /:
Polyend have a unfortunate tendency to convert customers in paying beta testers for their prototypes.
I have serious problems with Polyend jumping on the next shiny thing, without fixing the last one they hyped. I love my tracker, but a couple firmware updates down the road it still has a lot of ui jank, missing features and bugs ..and of course they released tracker+ with again a half baked firmware, which incorporates new features introducing brand new jank, without fixing the flaws of the original.
Proud of my fellow countrymen, such a cool company, Polyend :) keep it up guys, love you
@@marcelbielawski640 you are from Polyand also? Sounds good over there! Is it near Drumania?
Are you from synthville 😂?
lol
I like how the Polyend devices are always bringing something new. I can see this being used more to jam with others, compared to the trackers.
OMHolyG! - Thats a cool intro song ...! If i hadnt a Medusa , sitting on my shelf , id be tempted - 🙄
Looks nice. I do wish though that there was more hardware that implemented modal synthesis without using the mutable instruments code, im not a big fan of how elements sounds but i love modal synthesis
Sounds great!
Thanks for this presentation Nick! This is VERY interesting and might fit on my desk alongside my Play+... I wonder what Santa might think!
Synth+ will be along in a few months...
Is the screen the same size as the Play? It looks larger.
Very clear, hi-fi sound!
1:30 Marek Biliński vibes! ♥
Coolest piece of gear I’ve seen in a long time! Take Note’s Synth Family!
does it play well with external hardware? the whole interface is really clever; it would make an interesting sequencer/live tool even without the synth engines; I'd be super interested with a combination of the play ideas and this for a fully featured sequencer (a bit like the oxi one). shift + note to hold one note is a killer idea, the follow option and split keyboard as well
All the victims posting here still harping on about the trauma of ending up out of pocket by a couple of hundred bucks on resell value of their Play V1.
Believe or not petals, despite the severe trauma you’re all going through… you may be surprised to hear there are like about 7 billion folks on this planet dealing with far worse than you. Hang on in there. Keep posting your grievances. We’re all ears. 👍
for 500 dollars, its very competitive. i would like to have seen an integrated sequencer in it. Polyend is really going strong with their devices lately.
I think it does have a sequencer in it.
@@tColorsinspacerecordings ah ok, i didnt see all the features. it looked like me that it was a sort of extended arp, but if you can save the sequences then thats a big plus also
@ I’m not 100% sure but I just ordered it so I’ll let you know!
@@typemismatch2712 I think what’s more interesting is that we’ve got a dozen or so companies out here pumping a new product every few months, along with the literally dozens of pedal companies doing just fine and 40 years ago, there was maybe 5 companies in this entire space and it would take 3 years to produce an instrument that the entire fate of the company rested on, would end up being a bona fide classic and worth tens of thousands of dollars decades later and the company would still go out of business. Will any of these things be iconic 40 years from now?
@@esSKay25 they won't be iconic. That time is over, maybe some synths will be icons i dont know. There's a lot to choose from these days. There are more small synthesizer companies nowadays, probably because technical things have become easier in making a synth. Sometimes its a raspberry PI inside, with a dedicated controller box around it. But to pay 20,000 dollars for a roland jupiter-8 is just stupid. These synths need a lot of maintenance, are old. They should put those synths in a museum or something. If you have the money and resources, buying a real old analog synth is of course fantastic. But most beginning producers seem to think you can only work in the box. But the most fascinating synth for me is a softsynth. Its Razor, which does everything with like 312 sine particles, and the weird thing is, even the effects are made with these particles. They should bring out a hardware version of that synth. I find it genious. I would not really use it though, because i miss the dedicated physical controls. I always miss something when editing a software synth, like i cant make contact with it, because its on my screen. But, to answer your comment, i dont know how they will look at this period 30 years in the future. I like that the playing field is being leveled. I fully endorse what behringer does. Nobody has the amount of money you gotta pay if you want the classics in the studio. Thats maybe an unfortunate truth. But then, the development of electronic instruments has been since the early 1900s, thats a rather short time. If you look at the synth development, the landmark was the introduction of the minimoog i think. Maybe arp was a little bit earlier with their modular systems, although moog was also doing things in that direction. Also, people who made eurorack modules, with sometimes only 3 persons in the company, and get succesfull, sometimes these companies also begin to make hardware. Look at the Supercritcal Redshift 6, an analog synth that isnt out yet. but based on their demon core oscillator eurorack module. Behringer did it also that way, the new Grind synth is based on their brains eurorack module. I like this synth because the osc is digital, the rest is analog. Thats always a nice combination. And offcourse, there is still technical development going on, so we will see. But i'd rather have the situation we are in know, because there are more companies doing things, not only korg, roland, yamaha and all these big companies. Im not after classics, i respect these synths for what they have meant in the whole development of electronic instruments. But now more people can afford hardware, and thats a good thing, people need to come out of the box more. Its not necessary to work only in your daw.
Did they mention if it has audio via USB? Can the 3 synth engines be recorded to 3 separate audio tracks in a DAW?
In the vid he said no audio over usb
@ thanks. I thought this should be standard for a new device by now.
If you buy now you’ll only need to pay 400 bucks to upgrade to synth+ for 16 voices in a few months!
This makes me want a Circuit Tracks 😎
Circuit Rhythm
The polyphony does not meet the realistic expectations of 2024 despite the selection of synthesis engines. It’s like putting 3 gears on a V6. A powerful engine you’ll never be able to make full use of.
Head scratching stuff.
Can the projects be transferred to Ableton for ex via midi or audio?
I like how he's trying to pretend he's playing it like an Osmose by wiggling his finger, but it doesn't actually do anything when he wiggles his finger. 😂
Typically when you wiggle a pad that supports aftertouch, it varies the aftertouch level a bit. At least that is the case on other devices I have. Actually that's can sometimes even be the case on aftertouch keyboards. Obviously you have to set the aftertouch to something useful in the mod-matrix
Lots of cool features. Sounds are underwhelming, tho.
wild this box costs as much as the plus update.
So I guess this is the prototype to fund the development of Polyend Sunth +..i see
Revolutionary? Does the synth finally make me coffee? ;)
Bring back the Medusa!
I was thinking the same - its a Medusa without the Dread ,-
@@MikkelGrumBovin and without the great sound
And fix the bugz
so how many voices does physical modelling actually eat? because Ive heard it eats more, but there doesn't seem to be any documentation about this
so from what i have seen, you have 8 voices that you can allocate to the 3 engines however you want but the physical modeling engine is limited to 2 voices.
Nice, but please tell me what is "revolutionary" here ? I must have missed that part when it certainly is the most interesting.
Missing IO, 3 synth need more then 1 stereo OUT, 3 stereo Out, 1 or 3 IN for modulation something - like filter. The layout with constrains setup for the synths, for playing is nice, good job - I read some issue with the voice count. You will see warings in the display - so like a pc - this is not for me. Bye.
The Techno Samba reminds me of Stimming ,-
No audio over USB
The Synth+ will have that, the week after you buy the Synth …
“Guitarists loving synths”. Don’t know what you mean 😄
i believe its pretty straight up,-
Octasynth name opportunity missed.
Never going to buy a polyend ever again. Had tracker then play came out, bought that too and two weeks later + comes out. Shove it polyend
So you purchased a device over a year after it released and got angry they released an upgraded version of a device you were happy to purchase at the time?
This argument lacks so much logic
You think Polyend sucks, wait until you buy a new car. You will have plenty of manufactures to get mad at.
But….but…Where are the keys??I play keys, I don’t know how to push buttons..😢. This thing is what modular synths are to people who only twist knobs. And yes, not everyone plays piano but it’s just ridiculous everything needs RGB buttons nowadays.
Sounds like every other synth out there with a keyboard is for you.
Looks fantastic, love Polyend
Just bought one, cheers Nick
why is this a separate device instead of a feature of the play?
because it's a separate device, and not a feature of the Play, which almost certainly couldn't do all of this stuff.
@@RockLobster223 it's a separate device because it's a separate device? thanks for clearing that up with such powerful logic.
i think i'm starting to understand why polyend's customer base is happy to deal with their puzzling product iteration / division strategy.
Why does this cost money, instead of being posted to any existing polyend customers completely free of charge?
Why is everything drenched in so much reverb? This amount of reverb can even make the most boring saw wave sound great.
Thats why - Sherlock ,-
7:56 nice but why it sounds out of tune ?
I’ll never buy a Polyend item after the Play+ was released month after the Play was released.
Never again.
*1.5 years
Not having USB Audio for multi tracking those synths is a shame.
That'll be on the +
Multi/poly over this
Lmfao @ everyone salty about synths not always being good investment properties
No thanks polyend, I didn’t like throwing away my play for pennies
Ok ok ok....... Maybe I'm old. Too old I guess but can someone tell me HOW THE HELL DO YOU KNOW WHAT CUBES aka NOTES to hit in order to play any of these devices!! I can't be the only one.....Can't be
I struggle with this a lot on devices, the pad layout segment of the video ultimately covers this off. And no doubt there's logic in this, but often it'll come down to muscle memory to some degree. In scale mode, for instance, the follower keeps every pad in key with your root playing note. So it's more around creating musical harmonies and sense to those like me that don't have musical theory in any way. Hope that helps.
These pads are configured in 3rds or 4ths (like a guitar). I'd assume you can always hook up a keyboard.
On my polyend tracker I added a bunch of sticky labels underneath the pads indicating which notes are on them. Of course that doesn't work if it changes all the time.
As if the keys on a piano or the fretboard of a violin are labelled. It's an instrument, you gotta learn to play it, that's all. And i be there's a manual where it is explained how notes are mapped to the buttons. Dumbest take on electronic instruments ever.
More than likely, you’ll be able to set the scale and the root note bottom left, and go up the scale from there to the top of the pads. I hope that helps.
8-voices… 😢
2025 better bring us 128 notes as a standard for synths...
goldfish attention span, he immediately described it as being engine/cpu dependent after that
@@Clee3421 He also said it's 8 voices OR less, except for the granular.
@@Clee3421 Yes, meaning there's even less with some engines (4 regarding the physical modelling)... But I guess some clever programming might help in future? Unlimited voices for granular is not especially what most of us want BUT it's still a great synth and it has some very nice scales + multi-timbrality! +USB power and portability!
@@prinzbach just get a workstation like the Juno-DS61
all good but 8 voices in a digital era? add a better cpu . 8 voices digital ?
Guy in the demo shaking his finger on the pads as if it's a Roli responding to it like it's some kind of vibrato. No, just him being a pretentious tool 🙄
well nop, there is polyphonic aftertouch.
@starflek I see you don't understand that polyphonic aftertouch is a vertical key press movement not one triggered by fake, lateral movement as performed by this clown. Roli respect lateral movement, this doesn't so he should stop pretending that side-to-side motion counts and so should you 🤡
GENIAL!!!
Although I’m not big on hardware synths, this one gets BIG 👍
Edit: it looks like it is purely digital so no vco or vcf…
VST in a box than…
Hmmm… sounds thin… has no analog punch to it. Not my thing.
Get a Medusa !
My “solution” to the 8 voice “limitation” is just learning some harmony. After 5 notes, chords become too muddled to be identifiable (4-note chord are all you need for any type of tonal music); beyond that, you’d just be just duplicating notes. Duplicating notes has timbral effects but you wouldn’t be needing much of that in a multitimbral instrument. Better to experiment with timbral combinations. Also, we’re at a time when having this as “only” synth would be rare. We all have collections now. Polyphony and multitimbrality are easier to buy today.
I have another solution…
Get software plug in 😉
8 note polyphony in a 2024 synth is a joke.
groovebox without any beats...doesnt make any sense...unfrotunately will spend my money elsewhere...liked the form factor....but no beats is big no no
Because it’s not a groovebox, it’s a synth. They have 3 other “grooveboxes”.
@ it’s literally what the dude trying to sell this thing is saying…“a groovebox “