How to Fall Down the Anti-SJW Rabbit Hole
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I left when I realized "man I really want to meet this RUclipsr, but he probably won't like me because I'm black" wasn't a normal thing to think. Also I never agreed when they called black people in a movie "forced diversity. I may have never left in the rabbit hole if I was white. Glad I did.
For so many that thought never crosses their mind, my brother is still a reactionary and recently recommended Sam Harris to me and keeps going on these rants that basically boil down to “The Status Quo is right except religion" no sense of self awareness
That depends entirely on the movie though. Many don't, but you can tell that there is definitely some forced diversity when they make a show where the queen of England is black.
yea I honestly HATE it when they bring in politics and 'forced diversity' as an issue when talking about characters that are minorities just EXISTING. LIKE wtf? They also hold these characters to such high standards too. Why aren't they also allowed to be flawed and badly written like many white characters? Why do they always have to be perfect in every way? Makes no sense.
Just curious, who is this youtuber?
Every time a black person or woman gets a role in a fantasy/sci-fi television show, these man children are quick to call it “woke and political.”
I keep getting anti-SJW recommendations just because I dislike the new Star Wars films. Can you not, youtube? I just want to hate crappy movies, I don't want to listen to a guy screaming about feminism for two hours.
yes lol puting a marie sue character because "femenism" isnt equal to actual feminism thats very shity from yts part
I wish there was some sort of case study or research on this specific topic on anti-SJW RUclips and Twitter. The new Star Wars was a central pillar of far-right recruitment, and it is encouraged by mainstream corporate platforms.
maybe someone can tell screen writers that nostalgia doesnt sell as well as they thought and maybe original ideas might sell better
@@marmolejomartinezjoseemili9043 And other words, "Mary Sue" comes from a Star Trek fanfic parody of the lates 70s and that has nothing to do with feminism at all. It's just a character who happened to be perfect as possible and doesn't need flaws to be a better person, but in ironic twist, the "perfection" of the Mary Sue is a fatal flaw as well.
LMAO Same here. Also with Terminator Dark Fate, Ghostbusters 2016, the new Charlie Angels, etc... I'm just against poorly written characters, not strong female characters. It gets so annoying.
It was Sargon of Akkad who first led me down the anti-SJW rabbit hole, and ironically the same Sargon who gave me my first suspicions that the emperor may in fact have no clothes.
Talking about emperor with no clothes. Have you seen Biden's Alzheimer or are you still gonna pretend that you're blind?
@@JoaoPedroPT696 are u letting Biden live rent free in ur head for a specific reason or is it just because that's what fox tells you to think about all the time?
Soygon of Akkad has this whole "enlightened centrist sceptic" shtick where he very confidently says bullshit that to someone with close to no knowledge on a topic sounds very convincing, but immideately falls apart when you learn more about that topic from another source. His content is pretty much tailored to hook teenagers on the whole "those crazy SJWs want to tell you how to live, and we cool anti-sjw apolitical guys just wanna have fun" and then lead you into the whole JQ neonazi garbage. Though, I've stopped watching him years ago, but from what I've seen of him in other people's content he pretty much went mask off nowadays and doesn't even bother pretending that he's not a neonazi.
@@MrFuckingKololo yeah, he legit assumes that the sources he cites agree with him
@@MrFuckingKololo
Plott Twist: Sargon is an A.I., thats why he hallucinates a "believable reality". And he accueses every other Low Level A.I. to be an NPC.
Never ask a man his salary
A woman her age
A leftist what his political views were from 2016-2018
Insecurities I guess
Funnily enough, I was always a leftist even at this time. However, I can't help but acknowledge 2016-2018 was the darkest time of my life due to all this far-right influence
Literallyyy 😬
From my experience and the comments of others this is definitely true
i consider myself independent now but 2017-2019 me was a right wing louder with crowder and candace owens watching edgy black teen 😬😂
Steven Crowder: "Leftists can't debate"
Also Crowder: *avoids debating Sam Sedar
Bruh u need to hear how Sargon of Akkad (who vehemently said leftists are too scared to debate) then refused another debate with a leftist streamer Vaush 🤣
Crowder won't debate anyone who knows what they're talking about.
He had a video where he said he'd debate anyone, and a few creators said they'd take him up on that, notably Shaun, Ollie from PhilosophyTube, and Natalie from ContraPoints. Of course when confronted with that his response is just dismissal and "I don't even know who that is". Because he's a coward.
@KingBobXIV Wow, that’s a gut fucken buster right there
@@KingBobXVI Exactly. In one of his pro gun videos, he says banning bump stocks won't change anything since bump firing is a technique. Anyone who knows about guns will know that bump firing is significantly easier with a bump stock since you can bump fire while aiming down sights
KingBobXIV when we was challenged to a discussion by potholer54 he always responded as: “I’m ToO bUsY!”
Main problem I have with anti-SJW channels: they're not trying to solve problems, they just try to make the other side look bad
Matteo Dotti you’ve been fooled by people cherry picking the WORST examples possible of SJWs and using it to push forward the idea that every sjw is a dyed hair man hating lesbian
Matteo Dotti i mean.. it’s in the name.. social justice. it’s people pushing for equality, whether that be feminism, civil rights etc. the term SJW is used by people who deliberately cherrypick very radical examples in order to push their own agenda. SJWs arent some hive mind of people hating men, which is what people would try and lead others to believe
Matteo Dotti yeah that’s exactly what it is
Matteo Dotti I honestly admire your genuine willingness to listen and learn. We could all do that a little more, including me. Some people only come on channels they disagree with to pick fights and disguise their contempt in a thinly veiled platitude of open mindedness and discussion. Knowing damn well they’re being passive aggressive and “engaging in conversation” only to prove a point for “their side”. Idk if that makes any sense
Exactly, theyre just preaching to the choir, its garbage content that is always the same premise
One immature thing about Anti-SJW is that they will label someone as a Social Justice Warrior just because the person disagrees with them.
It's like those people who call everyone Nazis, alt-right, fascists. Lol. Proper cringe
@@ottoweininger8156 the thing is theyre right though. Quartering literally defended hitler and weinstein
@@ltstar9612 What's the context of his defending Hitler and Weinstein exactly?
@@ottoweininger8156 context? They were being dumbfuck bigots. There is no context in simping for either one of them.
@@ltstar9612 When you say he was 'defending' Hitler, was he quoting someone? Was he defending the Holocaust? Was he defending the military decision to invade Russia? Was he defending his vegetarianism? What?
If you don't know the answer, just say so.
Having this happen to me as a black woman is deeply embarrassing.
Same!!! It still haunts me how I actually thought like that
i’m trans and afro-latino with immigrant parents… i have no idea what i was thinking
As a black girl Im glad you got out sis!
As a black girl, same
Don't be embarrassed.
You see what the problem is. So, it's good.
It is good to see your faults and learn from them.
RUclips is a cautionary story of how an algorithm can do more harm then good.
No shit. All these trans science deniers clogging up my shit
@@yashamaga1319 All these anti-trans science deniers in the comments, shaking my smh
only if the algorithm is programmed by people who only care on the profit and disregard the risks.
I started my journey into the rabbit hole with undoomed. He mocked SJWs and it was genuinely funny. Then I found bearing, suit yourself, Sargon and a few others. The only two of that time I still watch every now and then are shoe0nhead and blaire white (and armoured skeptic but he kinda degenerated into a conspiracy theory channel, though I guess he does that ironically). I find myself disagreeing with them every now and then, and I don't take their stuff at face value any more.
Yikes true
I feel like philosophy tube did a great way of explaining more why it is harmful
Jesus, this is scarily accurate to my experience a few years back.
I still have nightmares from my shitty anti-sjw phase wby
I’ll be honest, I only came out of this rabbit hole recently, but now I’m worried of a “leftist rabbit hole” where they trick me same as the right.
@@nine552 yea don't worry, just have *nuanced* views, understand how different political ideologies work, don't strawman them, believe in science, understand the difference between correlation and causation, always look at data, anecdotal evidence is not evidence, make efforts to understand the data, and all in all just be a decent human being, and don't just follow whatever your grand grand parents believed (e.g. religion), always make up your own mind but on the basis of *research*, not just because you don't feel like something is not true that it's not, or vice versa. It's really easy.
Corpus
Ditto
Same it's really easy to fall down that path
This is the sad world we live in, where not being a bigot means people will screech: wOkE, sJw, pC etc. At this point, I'm entirely convinced the term 'anti-sjw' is there to mask blatant bigotry
Just happened to me earlier. Cause I'm "sensitive" for unsubbing from YellowFlash from for how toxic the community was. 😂 First time was cause I was thinking Prey seemed like a decent movie. I say like what you want and ignore them. If they think something is woke or offensive that's thier problem. But She-hulk and Rings Of Power are awful shows. I mean I have no problem with non-white heroes, but race-swaps are lazy.
Intolerance of degenerate things is perfectly normal, not "bIgOtRy".
@@fnfallout5664 Yeah like Doctor Who the show was always a little progressive. But Chibnall seems to have a bad record with Doctor Who. Plus what was with the Rasputin dance scene?
@@zionleach3001 wat
@@fnfallout5664 When Jodie Whittaker was the Doctor. I haven't seen those seasons. But a lot of people didn't like it. So they were called sexist. But Chibnall hasn't really made episodes that the fandom likes.
I used to be an anti sjw until I realized people are complaining about everything being woke even though most of it isn't. Even if it's good representation anti's will still get mad, now it's got the point where you can't even have a lgbtq or black character and other races as well without it being called woke/ people getting mad about it.
Gow Ragnarok has 1 black character and all the anti-sjws neck-beards lost their fucking mind.
@@letsBrn hmmm curious isn’t it. almost like it’s racism motivating these people and not “anti wokeness”
So I get where you're coming from and I agree with you, but reading your comment made me laugh a little because it sounds like the inverse of what an Anti-SJW would say
and most "representation" is only added out of corporate greed because they know it'll get people talking about their movie/show/whatever and it'll pull in a demographic from whatever group they're "representing" rather than out of any genuine compassion. I think these anti's hate corporate greed too, they just don't know what they're actually mad at. The real enemy is once again the system.
@@j-skullz ^This^ There's a difference between celebrating people and trying to divide people up into made-up shoebox-type descriptors (which virtually no one fits into 100%). In many ways, it's similar to how the British and other Empires maintained control of their colonies: put a small segment of society in power (or put them up as more worthy than others) and then they rely on you to keep them there. A good portion of the stuff being put out there by large corporations and the two major political parties in the US is little more than pandering/patronizing for gain, and is disrespectful to everyone.
If Sargon is center-left I'll eat my entire left foot.
GlowRune78 If Sargon is center-left, then I must actually be far-right! 😱
FYI: I'm not far-right.
Thomas Jess in Europe, the political spectrum is opposite to America’s. In Europe, the left is the right, and the right is the left. So in America, Sargon of Akkad would be considered right wing, so no, by American standards, he is NOT left wing.
L99minaty. Well I did say that he would be considered right wing, correct?🤨 I wasn’t really specific though.
L99minaty. Really?! Interesting
@L99minaty. I feel like that's probably because a lot of Europe is enamoured with Socialism, so it kind of creates this dichomoty where you're either considered Socialist or a Conservative, and any strain of Conservatism is bandied about as 'Far-right'. Just my two cents.
Anyone else kind of feel like there should be a support group for ex Anti SJWs? Lol
Lmao I’ll make a discord if enough people want it
@@pm2881 I definitely think you should, or I think I need one at least after that wild ride. After I emerged from the Radical Conservative Rabbit Hole I just felt like collapsing to the floor and wondering why I went down in the first place.
@@jennifercorbett8640 Because they don't exist.
@@jennifercorbett8640 Sweetie, SJWs don't really exist in the way that anti SJWs do.
One are mostly individuals being idiots the other are an echo chamber of reactionary right wing politics, one isn't really a community the other is.
Yes.
I unironically became an Anti-SJW because I hated myself. I was queer, and a woman and I was not in a good place mentally. Having people give me reasons to hate myself, and justify my own suicidal thoughts was the closest I ever came to self harming. The best thing that ever happened to me was (funnily enough) going on TikTok and finding a community of people just like me who explained how I wasn’t evil or sick for being this way.
I’ve met a lot of women and minorities who are Anti-SJWs, and while it’s sort of a meme to say that they must hate themselves, I do believe that most of the time it is true. Anti-SJW commentators pray on peoples insecurities and self hatred to fuel a culture war that they’re losing.
A bit of a rant, but it’s hard to talk to people about this, especially because it’s so taboo to admit to having been conservative in most liberal circles.
damn yeah that happened to me too, I hated myself because I liked men and luckily I accepted myself and stopped believing those things.
@@AlexClayland1232 you have no friends
@@AlexClayland1232 Your name literally has the word "Based" in it bro 💀 zero bitches
@@sam_9228 you're a champion! Don't let the fools out there get to you!
I had the same exact thing happen with me, but it was falling down the transmed pipeline because I was going through some mental stuff and I was CONSTANTLY denying my dysphoria. I was only really able to start battling depression AFTER I accepted myself and stopped watching those crappy, hateful channels. Glad you're doing better now btw 😊😊
Me in 2017: The Last Jedi was disappointing
RUclips recommendation : How SJW and cultural Marxism are destroying the West
Me (an Arab leftist): well that escalated quickly
That's mainly the fault of the left. Most of them fawned over TLJ and deemed all criticism of it as misogynistic/racist so now you've been lumped in with the alt-right hahaha.
@Calvin Parish Often that oppressive narrative is true though
It’s funny that anti-SJWs said they were being censored when RUclips was recommending their videos.
@@MrBen51309 "Most of them"
as in who? a couple headlines that sargon or chris ray gun probably talked about? Pretty much everyone I've talked to in the real world who think critically about movies did not like it, and the majority of those people are pretty left
The algorithm was right. The Last Jedi is shit because of insane sjw-ness
>Sargon
>Centre left
>Member of UKIP
Something doesn’t add up here.
Somethings wrong I can fell it
He's something worse than that.
He's a social parasite.
Err, yeah, UKIP are pro-immigration actually, so I would considered that at least somewhat left. I suppose you'd prefer them to be racist though. Vote BNP!🇬🇧
Leo Sharman are you crazy have you even checked their website or policies
If UKIP is left then so is Trump.
Ben Shapero *HUMILIATES* little girl by stealing her candy and making her cry, in order to own the libs. Another victory in the marketplace of ideas.
"The little girl" = SJW
"Humiliates" = Proving her wrong
"Stealing" = Forms an argument using logic
In contrast - the "dude" in this video, is merely using shaming-tactics and other sly Master Suppression Techniques.
Shameful.
You have forgotten the face of your fathers.
@@YammoYammamoto Salty much kid?
@@coryfice1881
Not really... just throwing a bit of reality into this echo-chamber
@@YammoYammamoto "Everything I don't like is an echo-chamber." NPC
@@coryfice1881
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I stopped being Anti-SJW once an "SJW" debated respectfully and stayed level headed, only for Ben Shapiro to shut her down once they started making sense.
Edit: Y'all it's been a year. I saw that video way back in seventh grade (for reference, I'm almost out of highschool now), I couldn't remember the specific video if I tried. If you're looking for an example, I recommend trying to find Anti-SJW Ben Shapiro compilations. You're bound to find something similar. Take care, you guys! 💕
Really? Can i see the video?
Can you send us the link?
@@joecool201 you missed out the facts and logics
@shroomy
That never happened.
You were a SJW failure all the time..
@ashley vibing faxx. it's all 'cuz of their love for generalizing.
I was like this once. I was a fucking edgy kid. Eventually I grew out of it and realized a while later that I was kinda maybe a little bit massively gay. Ironically I became the very thing I hoped to destroy only a few years before.
@Boop A lot of anti sjws complain about using pronouns, complain about gay characters in tv shows and will refer to LGBTQ+ as the "alphabet community".
@@ravenseye9179 People unironically saying that society should be worried about the "gay mafia"
@@interestingemail561 IKR
The cringe is real
@@ravenseye9179 Yeah. Calling the LGBT an "alphabet community" is pretty terrible. Let's acknowledge the fact LGBT are people too and they deserve to be treated better.
Same. I had an anti-sjw phase and thought the left was the spawn of Satan. Turns out I was projecting the whole time lmao. I’m now a socdem.
I stop going to the Anti-SJW when Bearing made a video about the Gay Marriage vote in Australia, and he voted No because... "Pro-Same Sex Marriage are too mean towards (homophobic) traditionalist". Pretty much saying "Homophobic feelings matters more than Human Rights". At that moment I thought maybe some of the journalist has some sort of truth about Anti-SJW content can be a gateway to extremely right wing ideals.
this was exactly what happened to me lol
I totally forgot about that dude
@//// let me guess you also think housing or healthcare arent a human right too
@//// Are you... Triggered? You seem mad. Insulting your opponent.
how is not wanting marriage a christian religious right to be allowed for homosexuals who are morally opposed to homosexuality because of their beliefs homophobia. its about religious belief why cant they just create civil union ceremonies like they have in some states. this isnt hatred this is religious belief and why is it only christians are called hateful for practicing a religion.......
I got called an sjw for being offended by a racial slur directed towards my race .
Dyce Averruncus * May I ask what it was?
@@advanced2431 the n word. The guy said you was using it in a " joking " manner.
@@rossholt9352 So if anyone says they're joking no matter how dumb it is then it must be true? It's almost as if you don't want something like responsibility to be a thing in both actions and speech. I see that a lot from right wingers who love to say "I'm just joking" to avoid being responsible. Also, it's really not hard to distinguish both versions of the n word, one is a slang the other is a racial slur. Those who say they're the same are pretty much lazy people who simply want to be edgy.
@@rossholt9352 "What do you mean slurs are offensive?" Also peeps online have a bad habit of using satire/irony as a blanket defence against basically any criticism of quality, content, etc.
First of all, nice strawman. Secondly, the n word also had negative connotations and was primarily a slur in the past, seen through the "history" that you describe (see: literally any reputable historical journal/article). When you want to describe a concept, it's fine to bring up the controversy surrounding it and explain what it actually means. What's not ok is to improperly identify the problem, ignore the controversy, and justify your actions for the sake of "historical accuracy," all the while not taking responsibility for what you say. Hate speech is labeled as such because it is primarily hateful. An average person wouldn't care about your beliefs, but if you mix the n word into your everyday vocabulary, you're only showing your own ignorance of basic human ethics. Also, what kind of situation would you even use the n word in?
i used to binge "SJW CRINGE" compilations for a while and i thought i was so cool disagreeing with feminism and other things like that. looking back i can say that i'm so embarrassed by my past self.
You don't have to be embarassed
As others have said, you don't have to be embarrassed. What matters is that you're here now. Life is change, you can't separate the two. Some people change for the better, some for the worse. That's what important.
I mean, you don’t actually act like those people in real life do you?
@@E-man Im sorry for you
I used to binge watch the Computing Forever's video on the "origins of SJWs" and was fascinated with the idea of how the SJWs are raised differently and poorly by their parents from different generations, especially from a result of rejection, low self-esteem, and/or lack of discipline that might be affecting mental state in their later livelihoods.
Nowadays, since I cared less about the SJWs anymore because they are old news now in 2021, I actually forgot about that video but I don't have a courage to watch it again anymore. (The info reserved on my memory and put it into the comment, just in case.)
It's funny how the atheist skeptic movement got so upset at feminists that it led a ton of people into following and listening to religious conservatives.
I never thought about that. Whatever let’s you keep being angry at people I guess
@ my ex boyfriend 😂
God works in mysterious ways
Anti SJW videos are the Fast Food of political videos
"Anti-SJW" is a synonym for "Nazi" and "fascist". It's just a Regressive slur for "the Outgroup".
Well, then you clearly haven't ever digested them properly. Instead you've likely decided that you disagree from the title alone and then, if you've even bothered to watch them, brushed everything that's being said off as hyperbolic nonsense. That's just poor academic form friend.
Rakinjo2: there is a reason why you never find these people debating academics with specialities in the fields they are discussing. They primarily criticize overzealous college students who are 18-19 years old
@@nathanbruce1992 "They primarily criticize overzealous college students who are 18-19 years old" i wouldn't say primarily, they also criticize their professors as well as corporations, laws and media outlets, and the occasional politician. at least those that i watch. and the reason is the college students gets boring fast, and progressivism went far beyond the college, and into the government and institutions of various western nations.
@@nathanbruce1992 Jordan Peterson debated Camille Paglia.
I literally have two Weeb friends of mine who do this right now, are watching Anti-BLM videos and supporting Trump, and they ain’t even Americans.
Point them towards the alt right playbook on RUclips. How to radicalize a normie is pretty much that explained.
I was in support of BLM, of sorts when it resurged in the Floyd case, but later wasnt so supportive of it once it got pretty violent. I am anti BLM for most part i guess, but pro All Lives Matter- like PEOPLE JUST DONT KILL EACH OTHER! Feel free to correct me tho- i am here to this video to expect a civilized conversation. Dont know if that's possible but ok.
@@AcidifiedMammoth I went down the rabbit hole but I started looking into those statistics and I found (I forget the date of the study) but violence broke out within around 8% of the total of protests. And also where violence was breaking out the most (Oregon for example) have had a very complicated history of racism. I changed my mind on the matter because I was led to believe most protests were violent and everyone in them were stealing. (I actually like the fact they robbed Nike and all those brands just not small businesses but that’s my opinion) but that wasn’t the case. Also some you tubers like the ones this guy talks about, they were quoting studies against the ideas of BLM yet they were no where near being transparent with the study at all. Leaving out ANY point that went against what they were trying to convey.
A podcast called behind the bastards (which is amazing) said one quote that really tripped me out. “Why are BLM protests getting so much criticism yet white supremacy protests are protected by free speech”. In the context that it was in blew my mind! Sorry for the novel. I will agree that there are legitimate criticisms against individuals in the movement and their ideas just like every movement. :)
@@metalDCM8 I understand your point. As i always thought that BLM was born out of Blackppl facing racism, and bc some of them did violent things from inside i really didn't want to support it. I am still not gonna be supportive of it but i get such BLM outrages come from complex situations which i am too Not so American to understand. I think White Supremacists etc or whatever Fascistic religion or group ppl support should be allowed as good ppl will always denounce it, but also i think any hate speech reaching very far into public and inciting violence should be curbed and come under Sedition. That said, i haven't seen too much of White SUPREMACY online bc not the entire life is Internet- i think it's still a pretty small minority. Thanks
@@AcidifiedMammoth I see it this way. Fuck the organization, love the sentiment.
I had this cringey Anti-SJW phase as a teenager. I'm embarrassed when I think back.
I was in the "hole" as I like to call it for 3 (4?) years. After having an epiphany that the hole was a pit of meaningless misery that kept getting deeper, I suddenly stopped giving a shit and floated out of the hole and became happier (or at least not as miserable).
Feel sorry for you
same. I used to hate the LGBTQ, furries, and anyone who wasn't a straight white cis male. Ironically enough, when I climbed out of the rabbithole, I came out as a transgender furry who would 420 noscope Nazis irl.
@@Maddiedoggie huh, talk bout a 720 degree turn!
@@natehigman3987 so relatable. I'm still depressed but not as depressed as I was when are believed that in the modern society we are "overdoing abortions" or that I disrespect those who get pregnant as teenagers. Like human kindness and understanding can teach you to be kind to yourself too.
I’m very proud of everyone that pulled themselves out of the really toxic environment that is anti-SJW content on YT
Me too. I don't laugh at the mentally ill anymore, I pity them.
Same.
Not toxic as SJWs
@@orientalflower They are both equally toxic as heck.
@@poweroffriendship2.0 tbh i can't stand Western politics
*Delivers a line in a monotone, deadpan fashion*
"Jokes aside..."
Ahhh, Germans.
ikr. Doesn't dude have the best voice for antifascist vids? Almost like Stanley Tucci as Dr Erskine teaching Cap to be a good man :D There's smthg archetypal about it. 3 Arrows' voice just talks to my lizard brain (the most primitive part consisting of the amygdala and other structures relating to fight/flight, maternal bonding, etc.) It's soothing on a deep, barely remembered, intuitive (?) level. Or maybe it's just bc I have a wicked crush on Richard Z from Rammstein and he sounds a bit like him lol
Considering three arrows is german, he has to be efficient
@@fulcrum2951 I mean if he wasnt eficient, he will a englishman.
@@diegoernestovarelaparra3820 or a lazy spaniard. Saludos desde España!
I like a monotone, precise voice better than a theatrical one
I was pulled out by hbomberguy and his aquaman jokes
out of one hole into another
And three arrows talking about no bs and also the videos about so called soyboys
@@ThePhantom4516 yeah buddy whatever makes you feel better. Smug oversimplifications wont really do much for you in the long run tho, promise!
Contrapoints pulled me out.
Sobek Time.
Former Anti SJW here too. It's funny, the ones shouting "snowflake" ended up being the biggest snowflakes themselves.
Funny how anti sjw are more triggered than sjws themselves
They are, just watch any anti-SJW channel, most these channel owners just post multiple videos a week or the week after ranting and complaining about the same stuff. I'm genuinely convinced these people have no life outside of witch-hunting for SJWs.
@@DarkZerol yeah they the same people that complain about women “bitching and moaning” but that’s exactly what they’re doing here
sjws are the most triggered lmao
@@yesyouareright9800 bro didnt even watch the video 💀
@@thetreeofclues watch the video? yeah I did,it's just an sjw making normal people look bad, now don't be a weirdo defending sjw
Contrapoints really helped me out of the anti-sjw vortex.. so low-key thankful to her
@Hank Hill She is a transwoman
@Hank Hill If you didn't know she was trans you would have called her "she", you're actually trying to be transphobic.
@Hank Hill no
@MADNUB u r probably trolling but my genuine reply would be that I'm trying to be more objective and nuanced about shit this time round... Don't really know if I'm staying true to it yet..🤷🏻♀️
@MADNUB No, they became a decent human being, and broke free from the zombie-ish mentality of the right.
Ben Shapiro EVISCERATES cashier who gave him 2 cents too little change!
Too*
@@krishnagodale3200 fair enough
With facts and logic
78 cents
Remember to shove it down our throats that his wife is a doctor
Man I just realized I disliked this video when it first came out , making your point rigth . This Anti SJW rabbit hole exist and my dumb 14 year-old self fell through it . Well glad I am out of it
@@theholypopechodeii4367 it was all thanks to hbomberguy , at first I was stubborn and releactan but when I tried to watch one of his video it truly opened my mind . It made finally stop calling people who have a different opinion to me "snowflakes " and actually listen them out , slowly I found out that I was living in this horrible echo chamber.
i fell in it when i was 13-14 and left at the brink of turning 15
and i fell into another rabbit hole
I fell into the rabbit hole since 2018 but in 2021, I got bored with their content and unsubscribed to the channels. Looking back to realize how bad the anti-SJWs are.
Same
the internet is scary
Three arrows completely DESTROYS anti sjws with FACTS AND LOGIC
I was 14 when I started watching Atheist videos. Then many of those channels suddenly started doing anti-feminism videos and I totally bought into this mentality that feminism is about men-hating and whining and having no reason to exist since "women in the modern world face no discrimination". Like Sargon, I only experienced this bad feminism on the internet without actually thinking about what they said or looking up sources myself. I wanted to be a cool anti-feminist woman like shoeonhead, like a little girl who wants to play with the boys.
This went on for about a year and I went to other sites to parrot the worldviews these youtubers had. I was directly challenged by feminists and had to acknowledge that I didn't think for myself, that it wasn't logic and skepticism that lead me to the views I held, but emotions ironically enough. But of course I couldn't just acknowledge I was an idiot, I held onto these views as if my life depended on it, tried to research why I and the youtubers I watched were right, tried to show the feminists I was debating with that they were wrong. Everything I searched for however showed me that my views were unfounded, that I was wrong.
It was humiliating and humbling but I think it led me to be a more sceptic person who can actually think for herself.
And now I find channels like shaun, hbomberguy, contrapoints and Lindsay Ellis and I just wish i had watched them earlier when I was in my anti-sjw phase.
I recommend giving Secular Talk a shot.
Yoyo Mizuzawa neat, but tbh, shoeonhead is actually the only good Anti SJW RUclipsr I can find, and she’s very fair to feminists, and only mocks the ones who are low hanging fruit.
Theramintrees is a really good channel, they talk about psychology and abuse instead of just "Islam bad/Christian bad"
You realize how much of a “I was the other side and wrong” argument this sounds like right? People do this all the time. Exactly what you said but about feminism. :T
people who say that 'woman in the modern-day are equal' are not only stupid but factually wrong, in a legal sense, yes, but socially and locally, HELL NO. don't get me wrong we've come along way in the past century, functioning human beings with more than two brain cells have moved past these beliefs, then there are the dumbasses so stuck in ways there unwilling to accept anything else
Anti-SJWs are just as, if not more, reactionary than "SJWs". Just criticize Donald Trump on any anti-SJW video and see what happens
Agreed
Anti-SJW RUclips would be a lot better if it focused just on SJWs and not politics in general.
It got to the point where anybody on the left is an SJW.
anticorncob6 this is so true! people just throw the word anywhere now. You say anything that is even slightly against a right wing view then you’re automatically a “triggered sjw feminist snowflake”
@@haamidah2525 Well not really.
Here with your friendly neighborhood reminder that reactionary doesn’t mean reacting to current political events, rather it means reacting to and attacking current progressive ideologies. Essentially a regressive
This has aged frighteningly well in the past year
Ikr. It happened to me five years ago
@@Videogamelover58 Mine is about 3 years (2018 - 2021).
Also, I'd like to add that the term "SJW" is basically propaganda. While radical feminists exist (I'd rather we started calling them TERFs and misandrists, their views are definitelly not just feminism but more extreme), regular feminism is mostly just having a critical point of view on how our culture views gender roles.
What these content creators like to do is cherry pick people's takes and act like everyone believes them and that it's a monolith. That's what the concept of an "SJW" is, it's this fictional idea of what the feminist movement is like.
If you all want to see what a lot of feminists actually believe, I think reading through some r/AskFeminists threads could be a good start. Maybe even make a post if you want to.
I never thought I'd see the day when it was considered ok for left wing folks to start using a slur that's specifically directed at women and feminists, yet here we are. Wild times.
@@KlausBahnhof TERF is not a slur, just like bigot and racist aren't. It's a derogatory term, yes, but arguably, trans-exclusionary views deserve to be mocked and derogated. Hatred towards a group of people based on their identity is different from calling out said hatred and behavior in people.
@@KlausBahnhof terf is NOT a slur.
@@chiogrosso2091 I've observed people using that word as such, but it doesn't really matter how we categorize it. What does matter is the fact that the word is erroneously used towards people who recognize biological reality. Acknowledging the existence of sex categories doesn't exclude anyone.
@@braedencarroll I'm not sure why you felt the need to point out the obvious here. Read my comment again. I wasn't talking about gender, so there's no need to try and school me on the subject.
I gave up on "anti sjws" when issues like climate change, income inequality, healthcare and immigration were founded as "muh sjews"
All of those issues are totally real and these fuckers will do anything to change the subject or make up ridiculous counter arguments that are clearly not based in reality. Exactly why I saw right through these fuckers several years ago when I first noticed them.
What the hell are you even talking about, I never heard anyone say those things are sjw causes except for more immigration for obvious reasons.
@Soviet who Cuts is that a bad thing? let me turn it around, is it bad to be a liberal? how would you feel if i just said: "sjw is just a gateway to liberalism." Just because she/he's liberal, conservative or whatever doesn't discredit someone's argument's, i'm center right yet i love Johnathan pie, a self proclaimed socialist, because he calls out everyone.
I think you're basing your assumptions on what skeptics are on the people from infowars and steven crowder, aside from dave cullen's outburst about "the great replacement", he barley mentions anything about climate change and healthcare. and are you really going to say people's gripes on mass immigration are unjust, after everything that has happened in europe?
The worst part is, all of those things need to be talked about, researched more for a solution, and all ideas can help, but it's all just "sjw stuff" and it's all basically just swept under the rug.
There's no "left" and "right" in the general public, just a bunch of conspiracy theorists believing different, but equally wacky conspiracies, fighting the good fight against strawmen.
I was real deep into anti-SJWism, during the election year. I can’t believe I was. Once I actually got out of my hometown and started interacting with real diverse people I realized how insanely wrong I was about literally everything. I’m disappointed in my critical thinking skills, I should’ve been better.
I see. I've always thought that youtubers like Raging Golden Eagle and Diversity & Comics who promote anti-SJWism were brainwashing their viewers.
I've been interacting with diverse people for years (since im from a very multicultural city) and i love it to death. Some of them even like the same things i like and are really cool to hang out with.
Julian Hudson I’m gonna keep it real - I was still in high school and I was bullied. It made me feel really good to think I was somehow smarter than every other overly-offended girl. I internalized so much misogyny because I wanted to be a *cool girl* who could take a joke. For me it was always more about the “women are unfunny and lame” aspect not the racial aspect, I just ignored that part (@sargon).
Julian Hudson Same. Saw straight through their veiled bigotry right away.
Unrelated but that profile pic is pure art
You got out, that's what's important. Judge yourself by who you are--not who you were
The anti-SJW's began acting snowflaky ironically but are now doing it unironically. It's so odd and funny. Just look at the anti-maskers and Ben Shapiro, whose feelings definitely got the better of him.
I think I would've had a happier highschool life if I wasn't so fixated on getting mad at my classmate for being bisexual, or being mad that they're teaching us about Gender and Sexuality.
Same, I wish I didn't spend so long thinking I was so different from everyone else for having edgy contrarian opinions
@@johnchristopher32 we have thrown away our childhood and our adolescence B)
help
Sheesh, I honestly feel bad for your classmate considering Im bi as well
@@user-pr6gn2un8z Yeah and I turned out to be bi as well.
It was hilarious because the first selfish thought I had was the fear of being harassed the same way I harassed that classmate of mine.
God I was horrible lmao
@@gabrielegenota1480 dont worry I used to be a raging homophobe from anti sjw videos before slowly becoming comphet and heteroflexible and finally bi and I stopped watching those shit
It’s funny cause I have no idea when and how I got sucked into the spiral. At one point my entire recommended was filled with *WRECKING SJWS*.
Your just stupid
@@leomatsuoka ...
"You're"
futurestoryteller irrelevant
@@leomatsuoka Not when you're calling someone stupid in the _same_ comment.
futurestoryteller how
This pretty much sums up the mid-late 2010's in entirety
ecoRfan RUclips rewind 2010s
I see so many people complain about "SJWs" and I always ask "okay name one popular SJW online that I can look up" and they never respond.
Me
Trevor Noah
(But to be honest the best place to find then is on TikTok and perhaps Twitter.)
The problem is it's not one huge popular sjw but a bunch of tiny unpopular ones.
'Nuff said
Exactly, daily i found people complaining about feminism and shit but i never saw anything about feminist or blm
@@oldmanlukeskywalker5374 he is? I have no idea, sjw seems like anything that sounds a tiny bit progressive?
I stopped being a Anti-SJW after I watched a Big Joel video that really forced me to think differently for once. He showed a clip of Shoe0nHead using her argument about how the wage gap isn’t real because it’s just the collection of average sale ties between men and women, which used to make total sense to me. But then Big Joel pointed out that just saying that didn’t actually answer the full question. That, rather, we should be asking WHY the average salaries are like this, or WHY women aren’t as compelled to take up jobs, or why jobs that are typically seen as feminine positions don’t pay as well as more male-dominated fields. Then, after awhile, I just started to see how often anti-SJWs/anti-feminists just tended to be obnoxious about their content. Just started to become obvious that everything I thought I disliked about ‘the left’ was scarily accurate to how the detractors acted.
For me It was when candace owens said hitler would have been fine if he didn't invade other countries. That's when I started asking qeustions. But what killed any love for the "anti sjw" was watching Shaun's video's.
@@chris-bacon205
Yeah, I owe a lot to Shaun in changing my mind on these issues and realize just why it was so toxic
@@chris-bacon205
Shaun is badass, when he criticize sargon for not being able to read, by literally showing him not being able to read, that was very revealing
i had a similar experience. used to love shoe0nhead because she was, although anti-feminist, still left-leaning. i never bought conservative talking points thankfully. but when i watched a video by an actual feminist i slowly started to admit that i was wrong, because i realized that her points.. made sense. way more than anti-feminist's.
after that i started watching leftist youtubers like shaun, philosophy tube, hbomberguy, etc and found a community that was way more fulfilling
This is so true, so many of these people's "points" basically boil down to "oh well that's just the way it is, SJWS OWNED by fact and logic!!1" when it should be about being like ok but WHY is that the way it is?? something being set up in a certain way doesn't mean it's good and shouldn't be challenged or changed.
At this point, I don’t think that stereotypical SJWs are even real
The right would take a person who's literally off their meds and say that's a "typical" SJW, but look at a rally of Nazis and say that _calling_ them Nazis would be racist.
@fco. omega "His"?
They are. I live in a city full of them.
@@futurestoryteller ?? The majority of people in my city check off most of the boxes on the metaphorical "SJW checklist" I never said it was bad. I'm just making an observation. I'm mentally healthy thank you very much.
@fco. omega '"that is your perspective"'
Since you inexplicably put that in quotes, I'm going to assume that's meant to be ironic..
I used to be a guy that was into the whole YT Skeptic community.
Then I started to be skeptical of the Skeptical Community.
and now I’m just a guy.
Now you're a more experienced and learned guy. Less likely to go astray.
MegaBoeboe I always see my self diving into the right of RUclips then the left then I see the hole picture
LOL same. I grew up in a highly religious, young Earth creationist household and by the time I was 14 I was deeply questioning my beliefs. I didn't "become an atheist" but I sort of just realized I was one.
I eventually stumbled across the atheist/skeptic community on the internet and realized I wasn't alone which was nice. Hearing all these people talk about why they don't believe in various religions was refreshing. I had never heard anyone openly discuss their disbelief. It was so taboo for my family. It was so nice to be out of my Christian bubble. The problem was that I continued to watch these videos after I had already become comfortable with what I believe. The videos were basically preaching to the choir. I already agreed with them so why was I still watching? To reaffirm myself of my newfound beliefs (or lack thereof). I was no longer in my Christian bubble, but I did fall into a whole new bubble and it took me a couple years to realize it. They convince you that all religious people are idiots and are incapable of using logic. They teach you to look down on people who believe in things without evidence. They convince you that religion is evil. Although these things are sometimes true, it is such a black and white way of viewing it.
I still consider myself an atheist because by definition I am one, but I try not to associate with the "new atheist" movement. Most of the time I just tell people I am "non-religious" instead of "atheist" just so they don't associate me with those people.
Skeptic community aren't skeptics dude. Should've realized that a long time ago but SJWs are huge problem in society.
Jordan Dennis agreed I think all of us can agree but maybe we need to also put the right and the left to that question if they have any problematic parts and fight them all so let’s keep calling out sjws on their bull but keep our eyes out for those on our sides with their own bull what ever side we are on
Ben Shapiro is one of the biggest influencers who pushed me to stop consuming anti-sjw content because Ben Shapiro is completely idiotic 😂😂 his channel made me lose brain cells and made me see how stupid and dangerous the entire ‘anti-movement’ is
He sounds like he inhales helium all the time
There is reason to be anti-idiocy and anti-tribalism, regardless of if that means opposing SJWs or rightwing folks. Just because one guy is an idiot doesn't mean that whole side is.
@@monkeytime9851 I said nothing about being anti-right wing
@@lighting7508 Correct. I did. There are idiots who are SJW. There are idiots who are right wing. It makes sense to oppose both subsets, and it makes neither entire set bad as a whole.
@@lighting7508 Thats why is is so vital for the left to distinguish from SJW nonsense. If we want to not be painted as all that fringe then we need to stand up against that fringe and be seen doing it.
I fell down that shit at age 7. I was a young girl who should have been playing with barbies, and that was taken away from me because i didn't want to be a "feminist bimbo." My whole childhood taken away.
exactly dude, that's what pisses me off, lost my whole childhood just trying to show other people i was 'different'
@@denji5426 Yeah it really messes you up, and it damaged my self-image from a young age.
I'm surprised you already using internet and understand anti-SJW at age 7 while I barely know politics until 16, I feel slow💀tbh I had pick-me girl phase so not that any better lol
@@alcopops3853 I grew up around a lot of political discussion so from a young age I picked up more than most kids, more than I probably should have at 7. however I'm still surprised I went down that rabbit hole since my family is really left, most girls had a pick me phase but it definitely was more intense with that pipeline. Also, most of it wasn't as political as it was social issues, however did have parts in political topics
@@kaixoxo_ Oh I see. Well in my case I know SJW and think they're cringe and that's all, never went into any rabbit hole because my friends mostly are apolitical. My family not talking that much about politics until I was 16. I'm the opposite of you, my family mostly conservative but I'm leaning on left.
Seriously I can't imagine how damaging it is to get exposed on very young age. Even I get headache and anxiety reading too much politics article so I'm limiting myself for the sake of my mental health.
In my opinion, there are three tiers of "anti SJW" there's the first tier, people on the left critiquing more radical people on the left, the second tier, center to moderate right-wingers making counter-arguments to the left, and then the third tier which is just people that somehow time traveled from the 1700s
I am the second tier
Yeah I agree with this, for example from what I’ve seen, shoeonhead is a first tier and armoured skeptic is more like a second tier. That’s just from what I’ve observed though.
SCP- 3199 The fact that you conflate “right wingers making counter arguments to the left” as anything to do with SJWs shows how much your education system failed you on the most basic of economic labels
Barry Shitpeas He said anti- SJWs you fucking muppet.
1: shoeonhead and tjkirk
2: Rags, The Quartering
3: Stefan Molyneux
It really scares me to think that I could’ve ended up being an anti-SJW myself. Just one bad step a few years ago and today I’d be watching Stefan “Virtue signalling” Molyneux.
To everyone who managed to climb out of that sh*thole, you are incredible and I love you.
To anyone who’s still in there, maybe it’s not too late for you.
I almost fell down that rabbit hole, it's terrible and I'm glad I managed to reason out of that.
I'm still trying to climb out... I was in it for just long enough that it started to really alter my beliefs, and deep down inside I still just... get irrationally mad when I see social justice culture. Lately I've been binging leftist youtube, mostly Three Arrows and Secular Talk, and they've both helped a lot with reforming my state of mind. Maybe soon I'll be able to really break out of my shell again.
Bearfax II
It’s fine, these things are difficult.
You’re amazing.
@@XescoPicas I'm not sure I believe that second part, but thank you.
@@XescoPicas I used to be anti-nazi as well, good thing I got out *that* shithole
I was into anti-SJW videos until I realized that I began to identify as the people they were making fun of (non binary, mentally ill, diverse from the norm).
And then I finally understood that negating human rights is actually 100 times worse than forcing a gay, trans or woman character in media because of marketing.
Same, until I realised that it trickled down into anti-black, anti-poc stuff and I stopped.
My teenage cousins claim to be conservatives now due to channels like Memology 101 and YellowFlash :/.
Fuck memology 101
Also your pfp and username is.... making me speechless
@@progunjack5556 oops sorry. I go on there channels to troll with this name and pfp
@@progunjack5556 but yeah fuck Memology, holy shit. I don't know what's worse, his super conservative Twitter takes, his youtube videos, or his youtube comment section filled with the biggest losers I have ever seen who all apparently "Know the truth".
I like Memeology tbh but it can definitely be hard to separate out his bias. Doesn't help that he's gone full antivax lately
I fell down the MGTOW and Men's Rights hole instead of the anti-SJW one.
And pulled myself out a few months later.
@JM Gayming A lot of them do, I'm not going to lie.
Some are absolutely transphobic, others sexist. For a lot of them I don't know what they'd be willing to do.
MGTOW and MRA do have some good points though.
Mumble rap killa Nnnnnope. You’ve been misled
@@cassanateli No I have not been misled. I know the good and the bad points.
Good points by MRA
1. Men should get equal sentences to women for the same crime.
2. Male rape/domestic violence victims should be taken seriously, justicially and socially. There should be shelters for both sexes.
3. Men's mental health must be taken seriously, not dubbed as toxic masculinity.
4. Men should have the chance of caring for the childeren. They should go out with their kids and not be seen as a pedophile. When divorced, they should also get shared custody of their childeren, if possible. Child support costs should definately be lower than an average wage.
5. Men cannot be turned down at a job application because of their gender.
Good points by MGTOW
1. You don't need a SO. You can perfectly live by yourself.
2. You shouldn't have to put up with arrogant/controlling b*tches.
3. Not all women are angels, some will try to use you for money, power or affection, but not give anything in return.
You can watch the Red Pill or a Warren Farrell interview for more information.
@@mumblerapkilla5406 My problem with mgtow is that they take it too far. Those are fair points nonetheless
I turned 18 in 1973.
I turned 64 in 2019.
I live in the U.S.
Not much has changed.
you dont look so old in your profle pic
@@Htiy yeah he looks good
Happy 65th
lies
Born in ‘92. I remember people bitching about PC culture and Social Justice throughout the George Bush era. I remember people bitching about the MooLate in 2004
What broke the spell for me among many things was a ben shapiro video where he just lied about transgender statistics. I knew the statistics around the topic because a friend of mine was trans. And he just lied. On camera. Cited an article that didnt make sense at all. Thats when i started actually reading and viewing those articles they flash by really quickly while making a point
So your friend is a gr00mer 😂😂😂
@@Constantinople-1453 no not everyone is a groomer, your experience is not universal.
i left when i found shaun and destiny on youtube and i realized that leftists aren't just 'pink haired SJWs' and they can actually defend their points
kind of funny that destiny is literally a blue haired leftie but the point stands
Yea it's weird seeing destiny on that web graph cause all the people he was connected with fucking hated him at the time
@@billyrussell7789
I’m pretty liberals(Destiny) don’t count as lefties or do they ? Liberals can be “centre left” but completely left ? I don’t think so..
Shaun and Destiny are literal cuckolds lol
I like to watch videos from all sides of the political spectrum... but if I watch a handful of videos leaning one way in a row suddenly RUclips decides that’s all I want to see.
They’re not rabbit holes, they’re water slides
I watch Vox videos frecuently... for some reason youtube thinks I will like crowder...
Waterslides covered in shit. :s
the youtube algorithm is optimised to make you watch/stay on the website for as long as possible, which is why it will feed you whatever it is you are watching, unless you deliberately search for something else
RUclips keeops reccomnding grammarly adverts
@@deadlyNytshayd *keeps *recommending
OMG you libtards really don't know how to write
I love how the comments thread is basically an ex anti-sjw support group because that's exactly me as well
Man I swear it feels like we've all been there.
I got out of this partial rabbit hole as soon as Trump was elected. It put everything into perspective, and it showed how college kids having temper tantrums really aren't the biggest issue in the world, crazy as that sounds. But it's so reassuring reading all these comments, that I'm not the only one to "break free".
RUclips has a mostly male audience. Alt-Right/Reactionary camps tend to be mostly male as well. Overlap is inevitable and anything to do with politics will inevitably show up in your feed. Thus an echo-chamber is born. Although it's more like an echo-web.
It gives me hope for society
Honestly fucking existential to see that an entire portion of your life was on rails set by the RUclips algorithm. It's like we're all exactly the same person.
this video was a huge wake-up call for me back in high school thanks for this
The comment section in this video make me have a faith for humanity
You mean faith in humanity?
@@silverfox5002 oh yeah, you're right
I see anti sjws as becoming the thing they hate
A part of me is thinking "you heap the seeds you sow". But another part of me doesn't want this "culture war" stuff to distract us from real issues like climate change.
Tough call
Skull thunder it’s hilarious how they criticise these radical left sjws for getting so triggered when if you go to any “SJW TRIGGERED COMPILATION “ and say anything that disagrees with conservatives you will get so many triggered people
@@keyan1219 yeah the same people who will take to twitter and mald about how theres an lgbt character in their video game but than call the left sensitive for calling out nazis
Skull thunder yeah like nobs “what gay wedding which isn’t even brought up at all that it is gay and it is just that his fiancé is a man “
SJW propaganda
I mean I’m sure there is a possibility of “forced diversity “ but I always see people just talk about it a lot but whenever I look into it often it is just a gay character
I mean I kinda get it like in Star Wars where they had that lesbian kiss and then they removed it for homophobic countries but so many times people go on and on about “forced diversity “ but often it is just complete bullshit
Skull thunder no bullshit should really change his name
Just remove the no
Some gaming channels i used to like are now full blown anti SJW and stopped talking about games....
Rags and Chris Ray Gun?
@@WillKarleskint I liked Rags a bit when I was too deep into the PC master race rabbit hole (I kinda still am, but at least I don't try to evangelize everyone about how amazing PC is compared to consoles). Anyways, I liked him talking about how great PC is and other gaming-related stuff, but I eventually noticed how much of a political agenda his videos had, an agenda which I was starting to believe, influenced by not only him, but by a lot of people I followed for various reasons repeating similar ideas.
Another one was a Japanese guy who had a channel called "Find your love in Japan". I wasn't interested on getting a Japanese girlfriend or anything but I stumbled across his channel and found his content interesting, I liked hearing about his opinions on various topics regarding Japanese culture, but as his channel grew his content slowly transitioned from talking about Japanese culture to very American-influenced far-right topics, for example giving his opinion about black people but only talking about black Americans and his views on BLM. I stopped following him by that time, so I don't know if his channel has changed of if he went full anti-SJW / alt-right, but back then because I liked the guy and enjoyed hearing his opinions, I wasn't very critical about the far-right stuff he said, and often found myself agreeing with it just because it sounded reasonable and I was hearing them from everyone I used to watch, without really thinking too much about the kind of ideas I was starting to believe.
For me, it was a comedian called Isaac Butterfield. He made funny videos reacting to Buzzfeed stuff and mocking them, before getting to a whole lot of alt-right business disguised as comedy. I was like 12 when I started watching him, and I remember showing one of his videos to my mum to try and convince her of some of his points. Naturally she was horrified, and that made me rethink watching him anymore. Flash forward 6 years and I'm glad I didn't go any deeper than that.
Name sounds familiar… was he that Australian dude who ranted about vegans every six seconds? Used to find him mildly entertaining but the repetition got in my nerves even during my close call with the Anti-SJW bullshit.
same for me. glad I'm out of that phase now.
I remember seeing his fat phobia videos because I was also watching a lot of fitness videos at the time. They’re all the same video basically making fun of fat people for 20 minutes straight and then having half assed little message at the end about being healthy or some shit, Like bro you can’t bully someone into being healthy.
That was... Scarily accurate.
Was that just RUclips back then? Did everyone experience this to some extent?
It’s still a thing today. I fell in the rabbit hole again thinking I got out a few years ago. I got out of course but I’m still beating myself up for falling for that shit. *again*
Yeah I remember when PewDiePie and all the other famous youtubers used to make anti-sjw videos
@@ZhuyithNuristani Yes. But Pewdiepie is only making fun of SJWs without felling into the anti-SJW rabbit hole, though, his main point of content is to review memes and gaming. His "Let's Play" content will always be in our hearts and I feel like he's going back to his routes again once he played Minecraft.
@@ZhuyithNuristani The difference with PewDiePie is that he only made fun of them,he didn’t become who he was by “owning the libs.”
@@brawler715 Well I argued he should avoid doing that because a lot of his audience are young viewers and this could be gate way to other anti sjw
When anti-sjw channels began describing themselves as conservative and openly supporting views I found abhorrent, it made me take a step back and realize: "if they are wrong about healthcare and abortion and guns, then maybe they're not being entirely honest about feminism.
The tactics are not new. It used to be the 'bleeding heart liberal' label that they used to distract people from the important issues.
98% of feminist talking points are completely false.
@@pieynot9084 well prove it , if you want an actual in-depth analysis on the idea of feminism in the modern world watch hbomberguy's "anti feminism Vs facts" .
@@thenonsenseguy2364 That video doesn't go in an "in-depth analysis" of feminism, half of that video was just shitting on Sargon of Akkad. Even if the 1 in 5 statistic is true, feminists don't provide any solutions to the problem, and the solutions they do provide are really counter-productive like "We should put a curfew on all men!" or "Teach men not to rape!" Since I watched that video you recommended to me, if you want a video debunking feminist talking points, watch "22 Dumb Feminist Arguments" by Dr Shaym.
@@pieynot9084 offcourse the video I recommend didn't provide solutions because bit was supposed to teach you that what these so called "Anti SJW " say about Feminism is absolutely wrong . Next I remember watching Dr Shyam and later now when went to watch the video you recommend I just realized something ... He is not actually debunking a Feminist ,no . He is actually debunking a charecature of feminst ( offcourse I am not saying man hating Extreme feminst Don't exist ... Heck most Feminist I met agree that Misandrist Women exist .) This charecature is what his fan base believes feminst look like . This goes to prove what this video about "Anti SJW rabbit hole " is all about , The entire community is based on making the other side look bad .. so they are just used to taking a charecature of what they think SJW is and then act to debunk them when they actually are not doing .... Anything . The most these RUclipsrs go is to debunk a stupid BuzzFeed video which is ... Come on who takes Buzzfeed seriously? No one . ( Maybe because it's easy to debunk it rather than going to an actual feminst in the real world and debunking their ideology ).
You know the whole "College Communist" cliche?
I like to refer to these people as "High School Nazis"
Some of the audience might even be younger. I used to watch videos like that when I was around 11-13 years old.
I like the japanese term Chūnibyō for these people, they think they have special internet debate powers and then at some point they realize they are just trools and there is nothing special about them at all and really pisses them of.
Lol What about the “Working Class Capitalists” and the “Upper class CEO nazis”
Barista Bolshevicks?
@@awesomegaming1991 Stalin, a communist! Lmao no
I remember going through this phase years ago and being very misogynistic and quite homophobic before I sorted my shit out. What was ironic is how eventually I realised I was bi, and I realised I was trans a few months later. I basically became the very thing that 13 year old me hated.
are we the same person or are you my long lost twin?
Wow, that's... quite a plot twist right there lmao
What do you identify as? Non-binary?
literally same, i was incredibly far right and then i became everything that i disagreed with
Omfg you are just a child... You just moved from one subculture to the other. Facts doesn't matter to you now.
P.S.
I hope you don't do the transition...
Partially related but Ironically enough I'm years out of this period in my life but I went down this rabbit hole after coming out rather than before. Technically my rad conservative grandfather sparked things first buuuut I rejected those values when I first came out, then fell into the "trans but hating the community" phase for about a year. Blair White or whatever her name was and other truscum bs into this spiral.
Now I'm just an NB femme leaning bean that just wants a good life for my partners and child so I'm back out of that pit of my life.
Cheers to yall who found your real selves. Don't forget to love yourselves!
I used to be alt-right, would regularly brows through /pol/, but then I befriended a socialist in a class I had, and sometimes we would debate politics. She was much better informed than how influencers I knew would depict socialists and feminists, so I started seeking out left-wing sources to look at. Even before I left the right, I had watched some of Philosophy Tube's videos, and later On Tom Nicholas. Them and other channels helped demonstrate a different mode of thinking, one relying on understanding studies and data, on holding every position based on deeper principles rather than holding many positions as "inherent truths".
This is perhaps a much more positive spin than I normally give to my political journey, but I wanted to emphasize how important intellectual honesty is, and that changing people is possible. That socialist I mentioned earlier knew I was alt-right, but she still treated me with respect like everyone else, and she wasn't arrogant when criticizing my ideas. I know it doesn't work on everyone, and especially not on the internet, but I wouldn't shut out someone, even if they have abhorrent opinions, because change is possible.
So to sum up..... be critical of and evaluate all information you take in and then form your own opinion.
Indeed
And read books.
Ironic because I sat through the entire video to hear what solutions 3 arrows was going to provide...
Nothing but "anti-SJWs are gaining popularity on the media and that is bad."
There is a reason why they are gaining popularity and unlike his usual videos, arrows does NOT address the core problems.
The anti-SJWs are merely a symptom to a growing problem.
There are only two genders.
I think a big point is also to diversify your sources of content and information to avoid seeing information that only confirms one biased narrative
Shoutout to hbomberguy to get me out of this before I got super radicalized
He's a pseudointellectual known for attacking strawmen. Hardly a role model.
@@syb2965 Imma hard disagree with you on that and need some examples
not to be promoting leftist infighting, hbomberguy does use strawmans at times, and a bit less than clear on some points, but he's a great introduction to left leaning politics and can lead you into books and the like.
most of breadtube is kinda like that.
Someone on Reddit has conveniently put my thoughts into words:
"I myself am left-wing (centre-left to be precise), but if there is anything I cannot stand in our political climate, it's the sheer amount of hubris and unwarranted self-importance emanating from political illiterates who, now more so than ever, are beginning to gain a foothold in the online discourse not through the merit of legitimate arguments or even attempting to make a point, but through the act of sniping at others who seek legitimate understanding or conversation, condescension and a misplaced sense of elitism."
"Unfortunately, there seems to be a rising tide of this occurring specifically within the left-wing, with pseudo-intellectual hacks like the men behind the Chapo Trap House, hbomberguy and others who, rather than articulating legitimate criticisms against anti-SJWs, instead prefer to misrepresent their ideological opponents and act as if their (often uneducated) opinions are not only righteous, but install a sanctimonious culture of fart-huffing and judgemental bigotry, with a veneer of snark to attempt to mask the fact that they have little of substance to offer the conversation, just further hostility and regression in a time where it is already rampant. They would rather win an argument and confirm their views than actually have their viewpoints challenged and possibly consider adapting them, or even attempt to persuade others with actual reason to their point of view."
"There doesn't really seem to be much criticism directed at this specific group of pseudo-intellectuals besides general anti-SJW talking points, which I think is a cause of concern, given their rise in popularity amongst not only SJWs, but average left-wingers and centrists as well. This proudly vitriolic and unsubstantiated group needs to be isolated from the general image of the progressive left and light needs to be shed on their unjustified arrogance."
What's your point? That rightwingers did it first?
when the split in the anti-sjw youtuber sphere happened, i think shoe0nhead said it best: "we were too focused on what we were against when we should've stood up more for what we believed in."
i mean even to this day both she and chris ray gun still frequently have their own audience (or people that used to be their audience) saying, "you've changed." because those two spent so many years REEEEEEEEEEE-ing at the left SJWs that the right SJWs thought they were on the same side, lol. and now that shoe is more vocal about what she's for instead of what she's against, and chris is taking jabs and laughs at the right as often as he does the left, a portion of their audience that're just anti-left through and through and can't take criticism of "their own side" found their beards on fire.
so accurate
I got into the anti SJW stuff by way of the old atheist/sceptic community which by and large had relatively left leaning views. I saw it as the left criticising its own extreme fringe elements and enjoyed it. Then the alt-right was on the rise and a number of commentators I watched moved from criticising SJWs to straight up spouting right wing talking points, supporting trump and associating with the likes of Milo, Alex Jones and Rebel media and I had to come to the worrying realisation that I had watched and supported these people.
That's fair. At least Chris Ray Gun focused more on gaming. The best part is that he talks about the tall lady from Resident Evil Village and how he made the point about tall women.
conservatives when trump revokes journalists press passes: i schleep
conservatives when youtube bans a conspiracy theorist: *real shit?*
Wow the rightwing commenters have been real quiet on this one.
@@iwiffitthitotonacc4673 why would they care? It's a shitty comment. and the same logic can be applied to the liberals. I'm a centrist.
I remember watching a video of these anti-SJWs on Mortal Kombat 11 where they compared Skarlet's costume to a hijab and attacked Netherrealm for this false representation. Stupidest thing I've ever heard.
You are the stupidest thing. Skarlet was almost bare naked in MK9 and she should be the same way in MK11 but they couldnt do that cuz of SJW pandering
@@KNIGHTCleric I completely get that but their argument was that they turned Skarlet's outfit into a hijab which it very much wasn't
@@joshainthere4402 Well the hijab part was obviously a joke addressing the fact that muslim women wear hijabs and in the modern age of feminism showing any skin on female characters is wrong and that they "should look like muslim women" or smth
@@KNIGHTCleric It very well may be. Thing is, a lot of anti-SJWs have done these kind of weird and stretched analogies to try and link it to "SJW media" un-ironically. I just mentioned the MK11 one because it was one that just stuck with me for some reason.
@@KNIGHTCleric
Wow... got triggered by some random comments?
Hbomberguy, Shaun, Kraut and you saved me from this toxic community, thank you!
Yeah, but now you’re just in another political rabbit hole, and you’re gonna start thinking that “fascism controls out everyday lives” and such
That’s such a weird thing to be thankful for
@@toonboy2041 more like "capitalists control everything and fascists are usually used as a tool to keep them in power".
In my first year of high school, I fell deep into the anti-SJW rabbit hole. I lost a lot of friends because I couldn’t stop talking about it, and even to this day I miss them. It also ruined my enjoyment of all types of media because I was too busy finding the tree in the forest, I guess. In fact, I'd say this was the point when I first started being depressed since I couldn’t do anything but complain about the smallest details.
I feel like a lot of right wing viewpoints come from wanting things to be simple.
The older republicans want to go back to the 1950's when everyone had a job, and a nice house (and you could easily ignore all the black people getting redlined) and you watched some TV with your family after dinner together, and there was no racial guilt or divisions.
The young people want to go back to their childhood where race just didn't exist, where you could play videogames and not think about how divisive the "Allah akbar" terrorists and the women you won as prizes for winning the game were, and you didn't have to think about "actual terrorists" since they were no longer attacking and were defeated long ago, and the lone wolf not-terrorists weren't shooting up schools yet, and of course racism was just an imaginary fairy that would go away if everyone just STOPPED TALKING ABOUT IT.
sure
The 1950s were not like that for most of the U.S. population. Wealth, race, and sex all had to line up perfectly.
@@domgaar9933 you just had to be a white guy. At the time that was the second largest demographic behind white women, at a large margin compared to today. The problem wasn't tyranny of the minority, it was tyranny of the majority.
We we're dealing with NOW is the threat of tyranny by a minority (or rather, plurality), as America becomes more diverse by the numbers and whites (who traditionally support right-wing ideas) cease to be the big fish in the pond. That's why conservatives are so on about so-called election integrity laws - the easiest way for them to compete in the democratic process is by arbitrarily limiting turnout from demographics that, for whatever reasons, don't vote for right-wing politicians
Nice Rant
Can't say about the former but yea. The latter is definitely true
A friend of mine got into this Anti-SJW rabbit hole. He is a cishet white gamer (of course) who got angry at women and black people in Star Wars, and after delving deeper and deeper into that sort of content and being radicalized, he almost got to the point of holocaust denial and believing in the great replacement
But he found your channel. I have no idea what video he watched, or how many videos he watched, but he started to change. He is not like that anymore, having abandoned those ideas (but he still has a minor crush in mister facts over feelongs). I thank you so much for that.
Ajavisk my brother is kind of like the guy you described. i really hope he changes, but i don’t see it happening.
@@connie9343 how him one of the other videos and more left wing youtuber lile shaun
> He is a cishet white gamer (of course)
You sound like an SJW.
Nicolás Gregori why do u people always use >
@@connie9343 I meant that as a way to quote that statement. I know what you think though, I'm not a 4channer.
It's far too easy to fall down that rabbit-hole.
Thank you for sharing this much-needed video.
In all honesty I just won't watch anything anti-sjw ever again.
it's especially easy to fall down this rabbit hole when you're 12-14, and are part of some minority group OR come from a household where politics are never talked about (or are talked about far too much). myself and many others can attest to this, unfortunately.
I'm so glad that when leafy died, the commentary community (the more mainstream ones) quit bitching about feminism and realized that more could be done with the format that wasn't just punching down at people. I thank Hbomber guy and Big Joel for steering me away from that cringe fest.
Leafy actually died... in terms of his RUclips career. His channel got terminated for calling out Pokimane. Though, according to Andrei Turbea's video on Leafyishere, the banning is justified because he has a history of breaking the terms of service, but it's also baffling that some worst RUclipsrs like Onision or Shane Dawson gets away with breaking the TOS without any consequences. As what I've heard, Leafy is now on Tik Tok.
Never heard of those people you mentioned. Thanks. I'll look into them. Somehow I find it comforting to know that not everyone on RUclips is a one dimensional anti-woke clone
@@poweroffriendship2.0 But didn't actually die in person. That should be clarified.
He didn't died in person, but he died metaphorically in terms of his RUclips career. Maybe I should rephrase that too early.
Funny how anti-SJW's act like the "sjw" they portray
I nearly became a Daily Wire fanboy last year.
Whew, dodged a bullet
If I make a hall of fame dedicate for RUclipsrs, anyone part of the daily wire will never get nominated.
I got into it from the whole "RUclips Atheism" thing. Creators I already watched gradually changed their content from arguing with creationists, to arguing with feminists. And that introduced me to the wider anti-sjw community.
The way I see it, there are 2 kinds of youtube atheist. They're either left leaning centrist or anti-sjws
Same. Used to be a big fan of thunderf00t, back when I was first doubting my religious upbringing. Then one day he started making videos about Anita Sarkeesian and I couldn't understand why he was so incredibly upset about one person's kickstarter, and why he was so upset about bog standard feminism 101 topics.
@@TJ-lh7xg name checks out >.>
Yeah, that's how they we're able to get Alot of left leaning people towards right-wing propaganda or centralist you just happen to ALWAYS lean right all of sudden darn the luck..
@@TurboNemesis same here, i noticed the incredible amount of hatered for the poor chic when in reality these people hardly have the impacts they say they do. But thier was actually a reason for the bickering..a right wing propaganda reason that is...and once he began supporting trump i was like...whoa..seems like thier true colors we're exposed suddenly. And off i went never to support them again. I'm glad someone like Sam Harris, saw suddenly how he was being used for that. And that's a man who always hated trump supporters even during his height. I mean it was maddening to see intelligent people...support a moron like trump like alot.. It was really werid..kinda distrubing actually..and you can hear the anger and embrassment in his voice for ever having anything being used to fuel the right with anything. He completely denounced all his right-wing supporting college's which is..a start.
I feel like RUclips’s algorithm forces anti-SJW videos down my throat. I constantly keep un-recommending videos and checking the ‘i dont like this video’ and ‘i dont like this channel’ boxes but those videos keep coming up. And if i watch one conservative video, my recommendation feed becomes invaded with similar videos.
Yes. Anytime you watch political videos they come up.
Typical hypocrite corporate companies......their only supports go to the richest......
How annoying.
pretty much but theyre being censored right??????
happens to me all the time and i think youtube doesn't differenciate between left and right wing content, and categorizes everything as political content. so if you click on one political video (like this one) you then get peterson, shapiro or kirk in your reccomendations because they fall under the same category that you like, according to the algorithm.
I got out of my anti-sjw phase when i had spoken to my family about one of the issues discussed and they were disgusted with me. Later found my sibing (trans nonbinary) was afraid to come out to me because of what i would think. Glad i got out of that anti-sjw bs because that breaks my heart.
ywnbaw + 52% + most would agree, not just "anti-sjw rabbithole" twitter nonsense + made up + mitulation wont make you an anime girl + get help + Dilate + cope" + lol
@@CoolestSwordFighter coming out as transgender involves no surgery or "mutilation" as you've put it. try educating yourself dipshit. Hateful scared little bitch.
@@CoolestSwordFighter middle school getting to you, bud?
@@wjjajshshdbdnnsndhbauhwhshs assume what you want lol. disfigurement wont make you a woman bud, you will always be a biological male, get help , nothing more to say
I assume your father was not in picture for your sibling to become a degenerate. Typical fatherless behavior. Spend more time with that mentally ill person, statistically they tend to off themselves in few years 😉
I discovered anti-SJW RUclips back when the 2016 _Ghostbusters_ was hitting theaters, so my take was that they were a bunch of whiny, insecure twits. A year later I was pretending to like _Star Wars: The Last Jedi_ much more than I did just to annoy people like this. Good clean fun.
I wish I thought of that
'pretending'. So they were right then.
Brother, you are everything that you accuse us of being
I feel like this also explains why many people will whine about SJWs on completely unrelated content.
I see these comments all the time and people being called libtards and snowflakes even when it's not obvious where on the political spectrum the original comments may have come from.
i got called a feminist when i was VERY anti-feminist for defending a dude from bullying, when i made comments promoting women to actually get a job, when i said i'm not interested in being a mother or wife etc....how does any of that even relate to feminism? Dafuck. if anything that made me very defensive because i reaized how a rigid dictatorship of behaviour affects people. i used to watch Andy Warski. Yikes! you should see him now.
@@OmotolaALawal to be fair, you protected the right of women to work or seek fulfillment outside of motherhood. That's, uh, pretty feminist.
And depending on the bullying context, who knows? What happened?
Something ridiculous may pop-up on our heads when we see a connection. One may see something and anticipate that Republicans/creationists/SJWs/anti-SJWs would "probably" say something ridiculous based on their views of the subject. This is actually more related with some of Shaun's videos on "fabricated outrage" or something. There's this video-game based on 1930s cartoons (also some new wolfenstein or 3d shooter game), and it caused some degree of anti-SJW scandal because one SJW-ish tweet or another that was made, but those original tweets were actually much more propagated by the anti-SJW hysteria than by actual direct retweets. More articles and blogs than retweets.
Omotola A.Lawal defending a dude from bullying IS feminist, feminism does more for men’s rights than MRAs and similar scum do
It's so odd how 'SJW' started as a term used in feminists circles (on tumblr) to talk about people that became so radical in their ideas that the definition of feminist simply didn't apply to them anymore (like talking about men as "the enemy"). It was a term used by tumblr feminists to make fun of people that were supposedly part of their online community, but obviously didn't care about improving the world around them and just used feminism as an excuse to be angry at people.
And then the term 'SJW' started being used to undermine the credibility of the people that founded the term...
The first time I read the term SJW was around 2002 on a Spaniard neonazi forum
@@DrHeroe You are joking, right?
Honestly, it really wasn't at first though at least how i see it (admittedly this is anecdotal but I have been on tumblr for a long time and ive seen the best and worst of this hellsite)
I first started seeing "sjw" as a sort of uplifting term for feminists who really upheld intersectionality. However around late 2014/2015, id say, that people were catching on to this term and making cringe comps and threads making fun of the loudest, most misguided feminists. Eventually, people really tried to damage control and distance themselves with the term and i think thats when sjw started to just mean "extreme feminist" by force of anti-sjw's creating anti sjw content and said content completely blowing up.
on another note, feminists who would most likely be seen as "sjw's" are actually feminists thatmost likely never even used the term and should absolutely be criticized but for different reasons. For instance "man haters" are usually white feminists and radfems/terfs. An intersectional feminist will talk about the problems in society that hurt men amd all kinds of men: black men, men of color, gay men, trans men, men that dont fall under the upheld stereotype of manly man, men who are casted aside, mental health for men. White feminists will often not understand that you cant just seperate society's problems as a men vs women issue based on gender alone. Black men amd women still face oppression under the axis of being black. And White women do not have the same struggle as a Black woman. Intersectionism is about embracing the axies of power dynamics.
And then we have terfs and radfems, unsurprisingly a lot of them are white. They hate men so much, they see trans women as men and therefor as "invaders".
This became longer than anticipated, but just to circle this back around, "sjw" actually does have more of a background so i thpught maybe elaborating on that would be helpful. Honestly, talking about this makes me want to do actual digging and research instead of recalling my experience on tumblr.
SJW use to be used to describe people Martin Luther King and Gandhi. Now it is equal to Nazism
@@antoinehicks2681 tbh yeah. although i wouldnt go so far as to say nazism... i think a lot of people who get labeled as sjw's can range from mild people who literally just have progressive or "leftist" ideals to really misguided but still well meaning individuals who can act too extreme. and as someone who runs into this a lot, i never see anyone actually self identify as an sjw wholeheartedly anymore with no ounce of irony.
For me, I had to take a break from RUclips and social media for 40 days started going to church and volunteering, and I found that all the right wing bs I had listened to didn't coincide with actually helping real people and being in a supportive community. And now im very SJW and anti-fascist and anti-racist.
It's nice to hear that.
Nice. But I never like the SJWs since nobody seem to care about them. I'm just a guy.
That sucks, because nobody likes an SJW either. Why not be neither and be human?
@@rommix0 that's the thing and the big problem with teens and politics, they go from one extreme to the other and somehow think they are deradicalised
But you're not anti-communist? You can't be a rational person if you don't hate communism.
As a teenager I was so into the amazing atheist back when he talked almost exclusively about religion. As a European I found it so refreshing to hear an American who wasn't all 'in god we trust' and even openly opposed christianity.(back in George Bush junior days, that was quite edgy) That dude opened up 'pandoras box of bigotry' for me and singlehandedly lead me down a dark and misguided path that I maybe never would've gotten out if not for Sargon of Akkad of all people. One day I was watching a video of Sargon where he seemingly out of nowhere began to rant about 'western culture' and how it was 'under attack by foreigners' and that we as 'proud white men must defend it at all costs', and everything just clicked for me. I wasn't listening to a well meaning or read man, these were the musings of an unhinged man who got an online following and was actively galvanizing them to go out and commit hatecrimes. I don't know about you, but for me that was a certified Yikes moment if ever I had one, and stopped watching him or any of those supposed 'free thinkers' that somehow always end up parroting the most oldschool reactionary takes, sometimes straight up nazi shit. Goodbye and good riddance.
I don’t know whether it’d be better or not if I had watched Sargon back in my edgy anti-sjw atheist days. On the one hand maybe he would shock me out of it with his ludicrousness, on the other I might have eaten it right up like I did with everyone else
Very similar to my experience. I was brought to Sargon through RUclipsrs like Amazing Atheist as well. He was also the one to take me out of it like you, when he went on a hateful rant in one of his videos
Between what ages were you in the anti-SJW hole? For me it was between 13-15, possibly 12-15
Anti-sjw commentators have gone so far down the rabbit hole they’ve become a parody of what they’re arguing against.
That is true lol.
The ones repeatedly posting the same unthinking NPC meme are the best at self parody. No sense of self reflection at all.
They always have been
Just go watch hunter Avalon's sjws ruin fast food video and witness as he makes a big deal out of McDonalds flipping there M into a W for national women's day,it's just theming like when you decorate your place with red for Christmas, hes just as much of a crybaby as the sjws are.
@@ahmadaloulawy2451 and no bullshit's reaction to no straws on mcdonalds is virtue signaling lol
I caught myself going down the hole a little. And the man that pulled me back was... Jordan Peterson. I listened to a few of his lectures and thought "this man is an idiot." And it made me really reexamine the anti SJW crowd. So... thanks, JP
What a weird way of getting out, from the way I saw it Peterson seemed the smartest one. I only used to take very seriously him and Rogan, the other ones semeed more like showmen. This could become a new, healthier community, the ex-anti-SJWs. We could do like AA meetings haha. Would you care to explain what made you question Peterson?
@@hayk3000 his fetishization of Christianity and his tremendous ignorance about postmodernism
@@noxthemc7717 yeah... I was "tolerant" of his religious views because he seemed to analyse it in-depth as a tool for how to live, not necessarily believing the stories were real. And I didn't really know what postmodernism really was so yeah... he got me!
He's great at adopting the trappings of academia with none of the substance
He’s the one that got me in but then thankfully this same algorithm recommended me videos calling him out for how much of a showman he was
I am ashamed of myself when I fell down that hole. I am glad I escaped and saw it for what it is.
No shame in owning your thoughts and conclusions. Though I do understand. Been there, done that. The way to make it right is to be the change in perspective. Don't hold back. Being from the other side puts us in a unique position to fire back. We can take it beyond the politics and the intellectualizing of their talking points. To know someone else's weaknesses as your own... that's very powerful. It gives you insight for either pushback or compassion. You can reach people a born progressive would have trouble engaging with at all.
There's nothing to be ashamed of.
Sorry that you did not have the Strength to choose reals over feels, you should have just stopped being in the political sphere entirely, but here you are
I also went down that rabbit hole, but luckily I have always had a deep disgust for anything explicitly racist, sexist and homophobic, so what drove me to the rabbit hole were more libertarian ideas: I thought that capitalism was a great and just system that evil and envious commies wanted to destroy and I thought that the best way to stand against antisemitism was defending Israel's actions no matter what.
When I started noticing how many far right people were in the comment sections and how these youtubers were always following a pattern (blame the poor, the women, the colored), I stopped making excuses to justify them and I started climbing upward and leaving that hellhole behind.