Whose design even is this? (MPCNC conclusion)

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  • Опубликовано: 10 сен 2019
  • My MPCNC build is coming to an end over a copyright dispute.
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  • @MadeWithLayers
    @MadeWithLayers  4 года назад +649

    One note on the video: While I was editing this one, I noticed that I had originally misread one of Ryan's tweets. The video is edited to reflect that, but its tone is still a bit harsher than I'd like.

  • @AndreaGuarnaccia
    @AndreaGuarnaccia 4 года назад +1

    So it’s time to design a metric based 3D printed CNC machine

  • @sogethgrimley
    @sogethgrimley 4 года назад +177

    I think Ryan just killed his own project. RIP MPCNC

  • @jzpwhyyouwantmysurname3638
    @jzpwhyyouwantmysurname3638 4 года назад +541

    Yeah, I'm sure Ryan invented U bracket in the first place. He thinks that he owns the design for every part that wraps around a tube? He's so daft that it's actually cute.

  • @yotodine
    @yotodine 4 года назад +1

    It DOESNT MATTER what Ryan thinks, only the law. HE IS WRONG!!!

  • @spermwater
    @spermwater 2 года назад +1

    I understand this has long been discussed. But I came here to say; if Ryan holds no registered patents on the machine, there are no intellectual property rights to claim. Tom and therefore everyone are free to copy, modify and profit from their work. Creative commons is governed by copyright law; copyright applies instantly to books, plays, movies, music, articles, photographs, blogs, websites etc. Not industrial designs. Apple can sue anyone who make a phone that resembles an iPhone because they hold valid patents which describe the appearance in detail, not a Creative Commons licence.

  • @RobertCowanDIY
    @RobertCowanDIY 4 года назад +438

    There's so very little that's unique about this 'design'. Machines like this have been made for decades and trying to claim it's unique in any way is absurd.

  • @ByronTabor
    @ByronTabor Год назад +1

    Well, I was considering buying parts to build an MPCNC, but if Ryan is going to whine and make false claims, he can kiss that goodbye!

  • @Tom-xy7mx
    @Tom-xy7mx 4 года назад +3

    Just speaking as someone who built one in imperial and have been using it for the past year,,, I have had none of the issues you had when cutting wood. The machine actually works great so long as you understand the limitations of the machine. I wont comment on the discussion of copyright(thats an entirely different thing) but the design of the machine itself is actually really good and I heavily encourage users to build their own or even upgrade ryans original design. Don't let a heated internet argument sour your thoughts of the machine.

  • @JustinCole45
    @JustinCole45 4 года назад +611

    Just... wow... I was going to build one, but I guess not anymore.

  • @Fugatech3DPrinting
    @Fugatech3DPrinting 4 года назад +118

    Well that was a total waste. Just when you got me hyped to build a MPCNC, this fiasco happens. Guess this won't ever make it to my channel now either.

  • @MakersMuse
    @MakersMuse 4 года назад +1

    Yet again an aspect of the 3D Printing Community eats itself... >_>

  • @0LoneTech
    @0LoneTech 4 года назад +365

    Nope; not only is the physical part not copyrightable, the functional fit is specifically excluded. Derivative or not, the part you designed is yours to share as you like.

  • @jvleugels
    @jvleugels 4 года назад +64

    For years I've had the feeling that 3D printing became big because of the open source mindset of all the awesome developers. And 3D milling has been stuck in the past with a mindset of doing it on their own. Also visible in the available documentation, software's and firmware.

  • @flymypg
    @flymypg 4 года назад +200

    I totally respect the "walk away" decision: Neither support nor attack; just state your case, agree to disagree, then move on.

  • @juanfranciscopedrazakranz1637
    @juanfranciscopedrazakranz1637 4 года назад +124

    Knowing this makes me decide against building a mpcnc. I didn’t think Ryan would be so narrow minded. It’s quite sad.

  • @danvercillo
    @danvercillo 4 года назад +97

    There are plenty of CNC projects that would love your coverage input and exposure. Totally agree with you Thomas.

  • @MrRbBlade
    @MrRbBlade 4 года назад +293

    It seems Ryan might even consider any CNC based on half inch pipe derivative ;) This video helped me walk away from a low rider project that I'd delayed because the tone of V1 Engineering had just bugged me and I couldn't put my finger on it. Ryan's attitude confirmed my concerns. Thanks Thomas.

  • @DD-DD-DD
    @DD-DD-DD 4 года назад +231

    Copyright protects a frozen image of a work. It doesn't protect 'designs'. Ryan doesn't understand copyright law. Your part is not a derivative.

  • @NAK3DDesigns
    @NAK3DDesigns 4 года назад +143

    Tom, Feel free to build a White Knight and make all the modifications you like.. I know my design can be improved on.. ;)