Very good early doors. Vortex may yet prove a very viable option for the US "in-house" market. Garrett needs to secure real success with Vortex for Global SMF recognition. Needs two tone imo. I'd be delighted to see them succeed. Well weathered in-ground test beds and great tester/company communications are key. (In-air tests are fun though). The MD circuit needs top-quality US general purpose machines. I swear my two US made SF machines. Good job as always, Mike. Thank you.
Thanks. I just use the test blocks for unmasking consistency when there are new releases or product updates, it helps me and the manufacturers have various data points before and after. Everything is glued down so nothing ever moves and takes soil conditions out of the equation for the best case scenario.
Mine took 9 hours to fully charge. No bricking yet. Manual says 4 hours so I thought there was an issue.. For the first 4 hours it was still blinking one bar then slowly started to climb.
To bad about the lack of tone options. 3 and 5 work for me or at least not a deal breaker. It is nice to have a 2 tone when needed. How much does the different programs change the machine? Or are they just factory set notching with no frequency changes?
Not sure if there are any frequency changes per mode like on the TS and Elite. It could be all the same with just different settings in each. I have not noticed a difference so far.
finally, with this video depth test and the unmasking (other video) we finally see what the Vortex can do when good target is mixed with REALLY OLD nail and not with the new nail we saw from their product launching that says “storm is coming”! from another channel, Calabash compare the Vortex and Apex in depth test as well and the Apex is performing better. maybe an update will solve that nickel issue, iffy. for now will hold off my hard earn $$$ and see what will be the New Deus Coil for D2 can do than getting back a Garrett.
Not bad honestly. They do have a thin coins mode and fast mode and some others.......haven't seen anyone test those yet. I see it still has that horrible garrett "iron audio" which when combined with any discrimination was horrible on the AT series. I always ran without iron audio and zero discrimination zero mode for best unmasking on the at series(which wasn't great). I wonder if that horrible feature makes a difference on this machine as well? It literally helped mask everything.
Been researching for the past week. With the latest software updates - Nokta New Gen Legend or ML Elite Expedition? Both are $375. Primarily hunting jewelry on the salt beaches in California. Want to dabble in gold nugget prospecting but not required if one has a large enough advantage over the other for general detecting. Love the tones on the Elite and it does seem to have an advantage on gold jewelry? Thanks in advance!
@@IffySignals we did! I grabbed the Elite Expedition Bundle. Couldn’t resist the ML tones and has solid resell value if I ever want to revisit an updated Legend for prospecting.
Recieved vx9 serial #XXX70093, fully charged, 27°f a little windy, In less than 45 minutes which was all I could stand, 2 long rifle shell casing,1 small eating fork and a very possibly white gold ring nearly surface,Probably beginner's luck on vortex part, but great separation feels like it's on the level of the Legend.straight out of the box I didn't even adjust volume,nothing,turned it on and swung.I like it,I'll put some time with it.
@IffySignals I have the triple score and it's great. The only thing I don't like or am used to maybe it the battery life. The simplex lasted so long and the triple is about half the batt of it
I was ok with lack of features compared to the TS and Elite hoping it had the performance the Garrett testers were saying that it did. Hopefully there will be updates.
I love Garrett, the ACE 300 was my first detector and I loved it. I stopped detecting for a few years and want to get back into it. I was set on the Garrett AT Pro but when I heard about the Garrett VX series coming out, I decided to wait and see before homing in on my next detector. Well, I'm not too fond of the way Garrett detectors sound compared to the MineLab detectors. Also, it seems like no matter what Minelab detector is being demoed, they hit targets and sound clean even when it's iron. With that being said, im going for a Minelab detector but not sure what one. My price is max $600.00 and would like to hit parks and the beach. I hear that the Equinox's have a leak issue, is that true? What would you recommend? Also, Great video, and thanks for the demo!
Thank you. ML put a strong focus on the leak issues. The new Elite, Nox 700/900 and Manticore are improved to not leak. For $600 you can het the full Elite package with Headphones and extra coil.
I just don’t see much in the vortex that warrants the price when there are options at a lower price whose performance is better than this machine. It’s as though they thrive on being so-so and that’s good enough for them. Even though Garrett products have never been my choice , it would be great if the company from the USA would provide a detector to rival the best machines out there. Disappointing.
I agree. I knew it had less features, but I was ok with that if it performed. Right now its lacking in unmasking, depth, and features for more $. Maybe we will have some cool updates that help it improve.
Dear Sir, The Bulgarians claim that their new, all-analog device is the fastest and deepest. Do you have the opportunity to test it? Golden Mask 4Xtreme
The Elite and TS each have there strong points, cant go wrong with either for the $. But yes the Elite has the depth in my soil. Both definitely winning against the Vortex.
Very good early doors. Vortex may yet prove a very viable option for the US "in-house" market. Garrett needs to secure real success with Vortex for Global SMF recognition. Needs two tone imo. I'd be delighted to see them succeed. Well weathered in-ground test beds and great tester/company communications are key. (In-air tests are fun though). The MD circuit needs top-quality US general purpose machines. I swear my two US made SF machines. Good job as always, Mike. Thank you.
Thanks Tim!
Thanks for testing Thanks for posting waiting to see more.
Thx Fred!
What a great test. I hate air tests, so these settled groud tests are brilliant. 👏
Thanks. I just use the test blocks for unmasking consistency when there are new releases or product updates, it helps me and the manufacturers have various data points before and after. Everything is glued down so nothing ever moves and takes soil conditions out of the equation for the best case scenario.
Did much better than i thought it would! Hope a few updates polish up that Vortex !
Agree 👍
I like that Elite' thank you for sharing with us.
Welcome Jimmy
Thanks for doing this comparrson Mike!!!
Welcome Bill
What freq were you using with the elite? Vortex did pretty well. I like the elite tho
Park 2 in the Elite, Park M2 on the TS.
Have you had any trouble with it bricking or taking a very long time to charge?
Mine took 9 hours to fully charge. No bricking yet. Manual says 4 hours so I thought there was an issue.. For the first 4 hours it was still blinking one bar then slowly started to climb.
Thank you, I’m a prospective buyer, but calabashes issues have given me a little pause.
@@Mr.Technical77 next week when allot more people start getting them we should know.
Interesting and as usual well done. What are you using as target markers? Thanks for this one!
Thank you! These are plastic 8” spikes and plastic pipe covers.
Nice comparison Mike! Love my triple score. That machine has been so good for me. Hope you ha d agood Thanksgiving 👊
Thanks Chris! It was a good day. Had a Thanksgiving round two today with leftovers.
To bad about the lack of tone options. 3 and 5 work for me or at least not a deal breaker. It is nice to have a 2 tone when needed. How much does the different programs change the machine? Or are they just factory set notching with no frequency changes?
Not sure if there are any frequency changes per mode like on the TS and Elite. It could be all the same with just different settings in each. I have not noticed a difference so far.
It appears to be working quietly, which I like.
Thanks
How well does the Apex and this one Compare to one another? These test are very fascinating.. Thanks Buddy.. Happy Hunting. Peace
Thx Danny, not sure. I do not have an Apex.
finally, with this video depth test and the unmasking (other video) we finally see what the Vortex can do when good target is mixed with REALLY OLD nail and not with the new nail we saw from their product launching that says “storm is coming”!
from another channel, Calabash compare the Vortex and Apex in depth test as well and the Apex is performing better.
maybe an update will solve that nickel issue, iffy. for now will hold off my hard earn $$$ and see what will be the New Deus Coil for D2 can do than getting back a Garrett.
Thanks 👍
Apparently they both suck equally
Is this thing released in US or is it still in beta?
Released. I was not a tester for this machine.
@IffySignals well i hope they fix it by the time it get's over here (UK). I am not impressed with the depth.
Good video!
Thanks!
What have Nokta done? Went back to the double score test and it hit better than the trippel score did now. I am scared to update the machine
The last update is really good. different soil conditions wet/dry for a target on the edge of detection for them.
Not bad honestly. They do have a thin coins mode and fast mode and some others.......haven't seen anyone test those yet. I see it still has that horrible garrett "iron audio" which when combined with any discrimination was horrible on the AT series. I always ran without iron audio and zero discrimination zero mode for best unmasking on the at series(which wasn't great). I wonder if that horrible feature makes a difference on this machine as well? It literally helped mask everything.
Thx Bill
Been researching for the past week. With the latest software updates - Nokta New Gen Legend or ML Elite Expedition? Both are $375. Primarily hunting jewelry on the salt beaches in California. Want to dabble in gold nugget prospecting but not required if one has a large enough advantage over the other for general detecting. Love the tones on the Elite and it does seem to have an advantage on gold jewelry? Thanks in advance!
I think we talked already. Did you decide on the Legend?
@@IffySignals we did! I grabbed the Elite Expedition Bundle. Couldn’t resist the ML tones and has solid resell value if I ever want to revisit an updated Legend for prospecting.
@@jessesouligny great! You go with Ryan?
@@jessesouligny elite лучше чем nokta? Подскажите!
@@По_горам да нокта г ели продал , если и брать нокту то триппер скор но лучше веник или элит
Recieved vx9 serial #XXX70093, fully charged, 27°f a little windy, In less than 45 minutes which was all I could stand, 2 long rifle shell casing,1 small eating fork and a very possibly white gold ring nearly surface,Probably beginner's luck on vortex part, but great separation feels like it's on the level of the Legend.straight out of the box I didn't even adjust volume,nothing,turned it on and swung.I like it,I'll put some time with it.
Nice! It came fully charged?
@IffySignals yes fully charged, I didn't touch settings at all, not even volume.I having High hopes, kinda felt similar to the Legend.
@ wow, thats good. a few people now including mine came dead and took a long time to charge. Mine took 9 hours.
Which would you choose?
Elite and TS are neck and neck. Edge for depth goes to the Elite. Edge for unmasking goes to the TS.
@IffySignals I have the triple score and it's great. The only thing I don't like or am used to maybe it the battery life. The simplex lasted so long and the triple is about half the batt of it
You're the best
Thanks
At this point i just feel sorry for Garrett MD department.
I was ok with lack of features compared to the TS and Elite hoping it had the performance the Garrett testers were saying that it did. Hopefully there will be updates.
I've felt sorry for them for years. The Nokta Simplex killed everyone, but Garrett can't seem to shake back.
Could you do Vortex vs Apex?
Sorry, I do not have the Apex.
Calabash just did video Vortex vs Apex
Love to see that test with an Aka sorax or signum :) i think you own one ? 😊
Sorry, I don’t.
Thanks for the great video...... happy hunting and good luck 🍀👍👍
Thanks! You too.
I love Garrett, the ACE 300 was my first detector and I loved it. I stopped detecting for a few years and want to get back into it. I was set on the Garrett AT Pro but when I heard about the Garrett VX series coming out, I decided to wait and see before homing in on my next detector. Well, I'm not too fond of the way Garrett detectors sound compared to the MineLab detectors. Also, it seems like no matter what Minelab detector is being demoed, they hit targets and sound clean even when it's iron. With that being said, im going for a Minelab detector but not sure what one. My price is max $600.00 and would like to hit parks and the beach. I hear that the Equinox's have a leak issue, is that true? What would you recommend? Also, Great video, and thanks for the demo!
Thank you. ML put a strong focus on the leak issues. The new Elite, Nox 700/900 and Manticore are improved to not leak. For $600 you can het the full Elite package with Headphones and extra coil.
Elite the best
Depth 👍
I just don’t see much in the vortex that warrants the price when there are options at a lower price whose performance is better than this machine. It’s as though they thrive on being so-so and that’s good enough for them. Even though Garrett products have never been my choice , it would be great if the company from the USA would provide a detector to rival the best machines out there. Disappointing.
I agree. I knew it had less features, but I was ok with that if it performed. Right now its lacking in unmasking, depth, and features for more $. Maybe we will have some cool updates that help it improve.
That Elite looks better and better every time. TS is a good bang for the buck, too. The Garrett is....... a Garrett. 🤣
Thanks 👍
I couldn’t handle the Garrett tones for 5 minutes before I would toss that machine in the dumpster
Garrett style tones. The iron crackle can be rough if you are not a fan of it.
I totally agree.
Yeah, I dislike the sounds of the garrett detectors, too!
Agreed. At least it doesn't have that ungodly "bell tone" like the Ace units.
LOL, I thought it was just me. I just made a post about how Garrett detectors sound terrible.
Dear Sir, The Bulgarians claim that their new, all-analog device is the fastest and deepest. Do you have the opportunity to test it? Golden Mask 4Xtreme
I have not tried it yet. I checked it out and saw some videos. Looks like close to $1k with headphones to have it shipped here. Yikes!
Garret a lot of problems, bad this vortex, bad bad! I bought Golden mask 4extreme and it best metal compared quality price
I have been hearing they are really good. Might have to try one.
1 Elite👍
2 triple score👎
3 vortex 👎
The Elite and TS each have there strong points, cant go wrong with either for the $. But yes the Elite has the depth in my soil. Both definitely winning against the Vortex.
@IffySignals still prefer the legend especially w 1.17 update
Garrett Vortex sucks right out of the box!
It would look better if there was no Triple Score or Elite.
Nomination - disappointment of the year?
Against its lower price competition, not looking good at the moment. Lets hope for performance and feature updates.
@@IffySignals garret is left in the dust.