Rockstar knew we'd try this

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  • Опубликовано: 17 ноя 2024

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  • @redpanda8058
    @redpanda8058 3 месяца назад +8905

    I don't understand why many of you are not understanding the point of the video. He's showing that the mission requires you to style or cut your hair & beard. But if you go bald & clean shave before starting the mission. Still, he will take you to the haircut. A new extra-clean shave will be unlocked. The game doesn't let you do an extra clean shave before starting the mission. Rockstar added that because if someone comes with an extra clean shave and bald head, then taking the player to a barber doesn't make any sense.

    • @yarnickgoovaerts
      @yarnickgoovaerts 3 месяца назад +297

      No the extra clean shaven is there because normal clean shaven actually isn’t that clean

    • @flyingblades2426
      @flyingblades2426 3 месяца назад +214

      Extra clean shave not available before the mission. Just checked

    • @COINTAK
      @COINTAK 3 месяца назад +56

      Haha, if you don't go as clean shaven, then also it appears

    • @Eighk47
      @Eighk47 3 месяца назад +44

      That still shows in the mission no matter what..

    • @SquishyCatStudios
      @SquishyCatStudios 3 месяца назад +13

      Extra clean is unlocked post epilogue jsyk but this guy showed a cool trick

  • @AngelofKaos
    @AngelofKaos 2 месяца назад +3006

    This is the exact moment Arthur Morgan became Heisenberg.

  • @MohsinKhan-vv7go
    @MohsinKhan-vv7go 3 месяца назад +3745

    2 things unlocks during and after this mission.
    1- Extra clean shave.
    2- High Roller Revolver.

    • @steven_gt1178
      @steven_gt1178 2 месяца назад +125

      And the Wittemore set, dont forget the wittemore set

    • @lonelyteapot858
      @lonelyteapot858 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@steven_gt1178 shuddup, Steven...

    • @PeterRattin
      @PeterRattin 2 месяца назад +112

      @@steven_gt1178I read this in the “don’t forget the quarter” voice 😅

    • @totei7207
      @totei7207 2 месяца назад +31

      And the reutlinger watch

    • @waffler-yz3gw
      @waffler-yz3gw 2 месяца назад +11

      @@steven_gt1178was this a reference to the "dont forget the quarter" or just funny coincidence

  • @SchwererGustavThe800mm
    @SchwererGustavThe800mm Месяц назад +2305

    Woulda been 2x funnier if there was a hidden option called "Extra Bald" and the barber give you a chrome dome 😂

    • @SlimothyJames03
      @SlimothyJames03 Месяц назад +12

      There literally is lol just for this mission

    • @noel9410
      @noel9410 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@SlimothyJames03no

    • @DontStealMyNoEffortName
      @DontStealMyNoEffortName Месяц назад +23

      or if you're already bald the barber brings in a skinner brother to give you the extra extra bald look

    • @HaiderPlayz_cool
      @HaiderPlayz_cool Месяц назад

      ​@@DontStealMyNoEffortNamelmao

    • @thatgalisafly2939
      @thatgalisafly2939 28 дней назад +2

      He just starts scalping you xD

  • @SankofaNYC
    @SankofaNYC 2 месяца назад +930

    They must have an amazing game play and tester team… and someone on the payroll who’s job it is to ask “what if” their games are really well thought out. It’s not just development time. A lot of teams would miss this stuff

    • @tyryberg9896
      @tyryberg9896 Месяц назад +7

      It's rockstar so, they're rich I bet I spend a ton of money on the details since the details are so good

    • @BurstVessels
      @BurstVessels Месяц назад +11

      If you watch some of the Jon Ingold GDC lectures, it becomes clear that Rockstar learned a lot from Inkle about how to script a game, and then applied it in RDR2.

    • @declanwells1887
      @declanwells1887 Месяц назад +1

      Sam houser is a gaming god. That's why.

    • @fandaklada609
      @fandaklada609 20 дней назад +1

      @@tyryberg9896 details are good, but they still didnt fix the wanted system..

    • @Fetidaf
      @Fetidaf 18 дней назад +1

      I think that would boil down to the culture of the company. I don’t see them hiring a team specifically to do that and it’s certainly not just one guy.
      I think they must have a company policy of “if you think of something, come tell us and I will carefully explain to you why it can not be… or we’ll add it if it’s good”
      Stuff like this video or “what if they’re just stupid and shoot the guy before the cutscene? We should add in a scene for when that happens” or “what if they move slightly to the left of the marker? Should we fail them immediately or put a warning on screen before failing them?”… stuff like that

  • @KK88KK-t4q
    @KK88KK-t4q 2 месяца назад +436

    Bro turned into hitman

    • @justanaltaccount1
      @justanaltaccount1 26 дней назад

      (the movie version)

    • @stahlschorsch
      @stahlschorsch 20 дней назад +4

      When he took Arthur to get a suit I was hoping for an Agent 47 reference

    • @huytranasd
      @huytranasd 16 дней назад

      @@stahlschorsch me too, when he go bald I though of some agent 47 ref as well

  • @Rum-Runner
    @Rum-Runner Месяц назад +143

    2:20 He definitely did not say “docks” at the end there…

    • @PIRATA-uh-huh
      @PIRATA-uh-huh 15 дней назад +10

      "Come on! Let's get to the KHocks!"🎩😊

    • @replay_pete
      @replay_pete 14 дней назад

      ​@PIRATA-uh-huh nah, he said "crocks"

    • @sohamghosh533
      @sohamghosh533 10 дней назад

      cocks

  • @tunasandwich8049
    @tunasandwich8049 Месяц назад +75

    Fun fact: if you dressed up formally ahead of time, Arthur would ask "what's wrong with the way I look" or something along those lines

    • @Intrepid151
      @Intrepid151 Месяц назад +5

      It also sounds like a call back to Vice City when Tommy Vercetti says the same thing!

  • @orangegibusgaming
    @orangegibusgaming 2 месяца назад +350

    Arthur: bald
    Fancy pants guy: GET A HAIRCUT HIPPE

    • @CastHydra497
      @CastHydra497 2 месяца назад +2

      He has a name

    • @orangegibusgaming
      @orangegibusgaming 2 месяца назад +3

      @@CastHydra497 i havent played the game (yet) so i dont know it

    • @Boba_Fett_Bounty_Hunter
      @Boba_Fett_Bounty_Hunter 2 месяца назад +3

      ​@@CastHydra497We all do. But some people prefer to give nicknames

  • @Apyr777
    @Apyr777 Месяц назад +72

    This is the exact moment aurthur morgan became agent 47

  • @TheMegaOnyx
    @TheMegaOnyx Месяц назад +57

    Imagine if you was already bald and cleanshaved, and the barber came out with a cheese slicer...

  • @torpid5092
    @torpid5092 2 месяца назад +50

    This is what I bought the game for, right here, discovering extra clean levels of shaving.

  • @PigeonGaming0982
    @PigeonGaming0982 2 месяца назад +54

    Shane from the walking dead:

    • @StarmixAndKaiju1
      @StarmixAndKaiju1 2 месяца назад +7

      Arthur lookin like he gonna tell you something

    • @FearTheJxckdaw
      @FearTheJxckdaw 28 дней назад

      Hey Rick man lemme ask u sum

    • @just_aaaaly84
      @just_aaaaly84 17 дней назад

      Shane was the best character in TWD hands down

  • @miguelrodrigo3875
    @miguelrodrigo3875 3 месяца назад +501

    You can make Arthur looks exactly like Breaking Bad's Walter "Heisenberg" White!

    • @squishysquidward2507
      @squishysquidward2507 2 месяца назад +4

      Bro...

    • @coleanu
      @coleanu 2 месяца назад +12

      More like the Max Payne in the Favela chapter

    • @Adderall019
      @Adderall019 2 месяца назад

      sorry

    • @MG.795
      @MG.795 2 месяца назад +5

      That’s Lincoln Burrows

    • @brett919
      @brett919 2 месяца назад +2

      I think bald goatee Arthur with the accent and size comes across more like Stone Cold Steve Austin than Heisenburg.

  • @SeanMacguire1879
    @SeanMacguire1879 2 месяца назад +363

    1:22 Sho

  • @DEATHxKAGE
    @DEATHxKAGE Месяц назад +7

    Trelawny - “Well you can’t play the tables on a Lannahechee River Boat looking like *Lex Luthor* “
    Arthur - “Who?”
    Trelawny - “What?”

  • @frigolo1279
    @frigolo1279 2 месяца назад +8

    every mission where Dutch isn't involved you end making lots of cash, as soon as Dutch is involved it always goes to shyte...

  • @GLGopher
    @GLGopher Месяц назад +3

    Clean shaven bald Arthur is kinda badass, maybe I'll rock this on a low honor playthrough.

  • @Adderall019
    @Adderall019 2 месяца назад +23

    a simple video, showing off the fact that rockstar thought of this possibility

  • @MarkanVaran7
    @MarkanVaran7 Месяц назад +2

    imagine you go already extra clean shaven and barber goes funky town on your face lmao

  • @mrwhiskeyfox5323
    @mrwhiskeyfox5323 3 месяца назад +340

    Maybe I missed something. The extra clean shave has always been an option in this mission, even if you have a beard and hair. So, what was the point of this video?

    • @mrwhiskeyfox5323
      @mrwhiskeyfox5323 3 месяца назад +47

      @@RainAnimatesThings the game wants you to extra clean shave, but all you have to do is pomade. I’ve done the mission with level 7 hair and level 10 beard.

    • @Just2Fake.
      @Just2Fake. 3 месяца назад +4

      I agree it's nonsense "rockstar knew we'd try this" try what ?? To extra clean shave Arthur's beard !!????
      Dialogue hadn't even changed, fųčƙịŋğ clickbait as always 😒

    • @Player_7
      @Player_7  3 месяца назад +193

      You cannot have an extra clean shave before starting this mission. Once you enter the mission it will be unlocked. Try it yourself

    • @redpanda8058
      @redpanda8058 3 месяца назад +67

      I don't understand why many of you are not understanding the point of the video. He's showing that the mission requires you to style or cut your hair & beard. But if you go bald & clean shave before starting the mission. Still, he will take you to the haircut. A new extra-clean shave will be unlocked. The game doesn't let you do an extra clean shave before starting the mission. Rockstar added that because if someone comes with an extra clean shave and bald head, then taking the player doesn't make any sense.

    • @mrwhiskeyfox5323
      @mrwhiskeyfox5323 3 месяца назад +29

      @@Player_7 I know that, but the video makes it seem like there’s a special dialogue if you go in bald.

  • @yolocalerlkoenig
    @yolocalerlkoenig 3 месяца назад +46

    Agent 47 in his Prime

  • @velcronstudio3938
    @velcronstudio3938 2 месяца назад +9

    Bro looks like agent 47 💀

  • @IvyRose95
    @IvyRose95 2 месяца назад +8

    the title and the thumbnail made me think it would be a Walter white reference

    • @Terrtail
      @Terrtail 2 месяца назад +1

      I thought it would be a Hitman reference

  • @alirende9908
    @alirende9908 Месяц назад +144

    2:18 there, very smart :D

  • @waltuh_jr
    @waltuh_jr 16 дней назад

    So the barbers in RDR2 can make your hair grow.

  • @LMGD511
    @LMGD511 Месяц назад +1

    From Arthur Morgan to Lincoln Burrows in Prison Break

  • @Brandyalla
    @Brandyalla 21 день назад

    "Extra clean shaven" is still an option if you don't go in bald

    • @just_aaaaly84
      @just_aaaaly84 17 дней назад

      Yes but it’s the fact if you’re bald it’s the only thing you can do.

  • @void7837
    @void7837 21 день назад

    i was worried that it was about him being bald and the barber would magically make his hair grow back lmao

  • @banthapoodoo66
    @banthapoodoo66 9 дней назад

    ironically i did get a haircut before starting the mission on my first playthrough without knowing that the mission included getting your hair cut

  • @camwchristian
    @camwchristian 18 дней назад

    I had this exact experience organically and thought it was so impressive.

  • @NecroxProduction
    @NecroxProduction 20 дней назад +1

    You are really overthinking this. The fancy barber has an extra clean shave no matter what because it's a fancy barber.

  • @SirReginaldBumquistIII
    @SirReginaldBumquistIII Месяц назад +1

    Know why extra clean shave isnt available until epologue?
    Gilette wasnt founded til 1901. Crazy the attention to details.

  • @Heisenberg_747
    @Heisenberg_747 20 дней назад +2

    I thought it would be a certain German

  • @MOONSUN4Life
    @MOONSUN4Life 3 месяца назад +51

    I've given my Arthur a bald and clean shaven look before the Saint Denis bank heist, but never before this mission. I think Arthur looks quite good when he's extra-clean shaven, but John, not so much! 🤠👍

    • @Kuzip23
      @Kuzip23 2 месяца назад +4

      Johns look good when you leave a little bit of his beard, so he wouldnt look like he smells like a cigarette from 300 yards away

    • @NihilismInc
      @NihilismInc Месяц назад

      @@Kuzip23John do be smoking them ciggies here and there, his breath is probably scary

  • @Paleo_Void
    @Paleo_Void Месяц назад

    This is the exact moment Arthur Morgan became Dexter Morgan

  • @demolisherman1763
    @demolisherman1763 Месяц назад

    1: What is that ruffian doing here? He looks like he’s about to rob the place!
    2: Wait look at his chin he’s *extra clean shaven*
    1: Ah my mistake, he must be an upstanding gentlemen then

  • @amellis2259
    @amellis2259 2 месяца назад +3

    If you go to a cheaper barber in saloons and stuff you get the same 'clean shaven' as at the camp. The Saint Denis barber is just a better barber/has better tools and always has that option. Nothing to do with the mission, just going to a higher end barber shop.

  • @santiagoitchkoch4467
    @santiagoitchkoch4467 22 дня назад

    i remember doing this without knowing this was going to be the next mission

  • @tgreeby
    @tgreeby 17 дней назад

    a bit of applause for the game testers who did not let this pass , extra applause if its the dev who did it

  • @Sithlord-cu8ok
    @Sithlord-cu8ok Месяц назад

    Bald and clean shaven Arthur Morgan looks like Jon bernthal

  • @sznyt9
    @sznyt9 Месяц назад

    Bro turned into Hitman 🎯

  • @Skiivin
    @Skiivin Месяц назад +1

    You get the extra clean shave option regardless of if you are clean shaven already or not

  • @GamerRusith
    @GamerRusith 22 дня назад

    The "extra" clean shaven in the name makes it clean that someone tries this during playtesting and probably got soft locked haha

  • @winterfire686
    @winterfire686 Месяц назад

    You dont need to be bald to unlock extra clean shave.

  • @PhantoLucas
    @PhantoLucas Месяц назад +5

    Lincoln Burrows

  • @fluffyeevee383
    @fluffyeevee383 28 дней назад

    Okay, but there is something so cursed about bald Arthur. Im not the only one who thinks that, right?

  • @garrett.c.j
    @garrett.c.j 28 дней назад

    I got this on accident on my first playthrough. I remember seeing "Extra clean shaven" was like "Huh?"

  • @maxsoutham9862
    @maxsoutham9862 15 дней назад

    I always wondered why extra clean shaven was unlocked here

  • @xnourGamers_Return
    @xnourGamers_Return 2 месяца назад +2

    Bro looks like the new nikocado avocado

  • @dr.insecto7846
    @dr.insecto7846 23 дня назад

    I swear, I shaved Arthur completely before the mission, without prior knowledge that you would have to give him a haircut for the mission.

  • @Moist_Plinth
    @Moist_Plinth Месяц назад +2

    Agent 47’s ancestor

  • @stealhelm
    @stealhelm Месяц назад +2

    This is actually just a fail-safe. If that option had not been made available, you'd essentially have soft-locked the game. This was probably even thought of before playtesting.

    • @auroa9854
      @auroa9854 Месяц назад +1

      its just as simple for an option to skip the barber outright

    • @pizza70123
      @pizza70123 15 дней назад

      You guys have it the wrong way around. The purpose of going to the clothing store and then barber is to give the player new appearance unlocks that fit the theme of going on a fancy boat. The devs don't need to add a "fail-safe" as they could have just let you skip the barber completely if you were already shaved.

  • @Real_FireBoyBAS
    @Real_FireBoyBAS 2 месяца назад

    The extra clean shaven unlocks no matter what you do

  • @Jdude11-j4s
    @Jdude11-j4s Месяц назад +1

    Arthur became agent 47

  • @thedondaithi1304
    @thedondaithi1304 Месяц назад

    You cant keep the suit which always baffled me

    • @chuckenigma
      @chuckenigma 16 дней назад

      You can keep and use it all the way to to the end of Chapter 4; the game forces you to use it for the bank job, then it's ruined on the way to Guarma.

  • @Guillermo_Carratero
    @Guillermo_Carratero Месяц назад

    He looks like that guy from The Unit

  • @denizkendirci
    @denizkendirci 19 дней назад

    It's not clean shaven if there is still more to shave off. So the barber duped Arthur at the first time.

  • @pyramidhead7780s
    @pyramidhead7780s 12 дней назад

    Wouldn't it be better if he just said you don't need to go to the barber?

  • @pofuni
    @pofuni Месяц назад

    I never understand why people react like I’m some kind of homeless. But if you open the menu and see Arthur with full beard and hairs everywhere it doesn’t matter how you cut yourself. They still see you like this

  • @Ultrabox64
    @Ultrabox64 28 дней назад

    I just unlocked Back, sack and crack and now my character is as smooth as an 8 year old boy

  • @DaFingerSmeller
    @DaFingerSmeller 10 дней назад

    you can literally always get clean shaven at the barber in saint denis if you wouldve went to the saint denis barbers at first instead of valentine ur game would be glitched bc u get clean shaven at any point in the story

  • @duckonquack95
    @duckonquack95 Месяц назад

    You know you dont have to cut your heard for the mission, just view the option for a cut and back out with no changes made

  • @vlanderytbr
    @vlanderytbr Месяц назад

    And i thought the joke was about the guy saying he's gonna transform him (Arthur Mussolini) into the Duke (Duce) he really is 😂

  • @AspenAren
    @AspenAren Месяц назад

    I recognised this because I always had my Arthur "clean" shaven with styled hair, and something similar happens. I was happy to see the extra clean shaven option during this mission, I wouldn't know if it's unlocked regardless though.

  • @Pirat_blunder
    @Pirat_blunder 21 день назад

    Rockstar ad before watching this

  • @OgNWA
    @OgNWA Месяц назад

    Arthur looks like agent Milton 😂

  • @A-small-amount-of-peas
    @A-small-amount-of-peas Месяц назад

    I did this purely by accident on my last play though.
    Didn't realise it's significance

  • @emmettdeschenes6287
    @emmettdeschenes6287 Месяц назад

    “Let me tell you something”

  • @hamzazaman18
    @hamzazaman18 Месяц назад +1

    Why does Rockstar keep this great game under the hood?

  • @IsaHussain-gx8so
    @IsaHussain-gx8so 3 месяца назад +20

    I never get clean shaven in my opinion it doesn’t suit arthur

    • @quickquranrecitations3091
      @quickquranrecitations3091 3 месяца назад +3

      @@IsaHussain-gx8so Yeah I like to do a 2 for the beard and chin and 5 for the moustache

    • @BBQBaconBurger44
      @BBQBaconBurger44 3 месяца назад

      i keep a bald head and 7 chin 4 chops. Boss Arthur

    • @ParrotPentester
      @ParrotPentester 3 месяца назад

      I do bald with a level 7 handlebar mustache

    • @ThaWrongFong2050
      @ThaWrongFong2050 3 месяца назад +2

      Suit yourself. I always give him a swept back 1 with pomade and a extra clean shave. 😂

    • @westym8935
      @westym8935 3 месяца назад

      Nah he looks gangsta shaven😤

  • @knightman7203
    @knightman7203 Месяц назад +1

    1899 agent 47

  • @cjmars822
    @cjmars822 Месяц назад

    Damn. I was hoping for a 47 easter egg, or a Walter White reference. Still cool, way to know your game and audience

  • @ionpion
    @ionpion Месяц назад

    I wish more games had anti-softlocks for missions... (I'm talking about you, lamar davis ballas raid mission from gta 5 that i couldnt get past cause i already had a shotgun but i needed to buy one for the mission.)

  • @connerstanish4219
    @connerstanish4219 Месяц назад

    Biker Arthur is a cool look

  • @Garfunkle77
    @Garfunkle77 2 месяца назад

    when in doubt you have Gta barbers

  • @clicker-y2j
    @clicker-y2j 26 дней назад +1

    author the egg

  • @memphisdaniels3218
    @memphisdaniels3218 Месяц назад +7

    Anyone else here because they thought something funny would happen?

  • @shane1039
    @shane1039 Месяц назад

    I forgot which mod it is, probably WhyEm's DLC, but I once walked in there bald and already "extra clean shaven" and the mission wouldn't advance at all. Trelawny just stood there telling me to get in the chair which I couldn't do. I had to reload my save, add hair and facial hair from Rampage Trainer then start the mission again and it let me get a haircut.

  • @xitsGalaxy
    @xitsGalaxy 2 месяца назад

    Got to say that you don't have to do anything at the Barber, you can Sit down and emediently stand up again, it doesn't mather

  • @Ghblsish
    @Ghblsish 2 месяца назад +2

    Agent 47

  • @juanguzman8130
    @juanguzman8130 2 месяца назад

    Btw, if you show up dressed fancy Arthur will have another reaction when Trelawny makes him change clothing, like he gets a lil but offended that the tuxedo he is already wearing is insulted.

  • @BebiTheCool
    @BebiTheCool 2 месяца назад +4

    What was that jacket you were earing at the start walking up to trawleny?

  • @Yorick257
    @Yorick257 2 месяца назад

    Why not let the player do extra clean shave before the mission? Just skip the trip if the player is already good to go!
    Witcher 3 had those mechanics years prior

  • @axelreinhartrae.a7684
    @axelreinhartrae.a7684 13 дней назад

    "I HAVE A RING-"🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥💍💍

  • @Leader93200
    @Leader93200 4 дня назад

    The extra shave is not available if we don't shave among the mission ?

  • @thesovietburber8823
    @thesovietburber8823 8 дней назад

    What if you end the mission right after then restart with extra clean shaven?

  • @pizza70123
    @pizza70123 15 дней назад

    Not really. You always unlock it during this mission no matter how long your hair/beard is. Going to the barber is just a reason to get a new appearance unlock. If the devs wanted they could have just let us skip the barber if we were already clean shaved.

  • @xZippy
    @xZippy 2 месяца назад

    Nothing completes a good Red Dead video like Comic Sans font.

  • @joacoacevedo2470
    @joacoacevedo2470 Месяц назад

    que hijos de su madre, como pensaron en absolutamente todo. Por este tipo de detalles es una obra maestra

  • @MattrickBT
    @MattrickBT 2 месяца назад

    What's funny is before this mission I'd just decided to go give Arthur a fresh haircut. I was afraid because I was growing Arthur's Mutton Chops the whole game and I thought they were going to force me to shave it. Trimming the chin was enough.

  • @user1164
    @user1164 3 месяца назад +11

    Game is such a masterpiece

  • @powerfive55
    @powerfive55 Месяц назад

    Arthur become Agent 47

  • @dassarullen
    @dassarullen 3 месяца назад +6

    I went to the mission with very large beard and long greasy hair.
    Cut the hair only one step but left the long beard.
    Looked like a hobo all the way

  • @AndyOtam
    @AndyOtam 3 месяца назад +3

    I never knew there was an extra clean shaven option 😂

    • @kiachaelchild
      @kiachaelchild 2 месяца назад

      it unlocks bc of this mission

  • @AnadonAyleid
    @AnadonAyleid Месяц назад

    Do these always unlock during the mission? Or do you _have_ to go in clean shaven to get it?

  • @MrShredder-it3pu
    @MrShredder-it3pu 24 дня назад

    He sounds similar to DarkViper

  • @THELAW27
    @THELAW27 3 месяца назад +4

    I love to watch your clips

  • @sweetdude1298
    @sweetdude1298 Месяц назад

    Ngl I was expecting a Walter White joke

  • @pedrobaptista1578
    @pedrobaptista1578 2 месяца назад +16

    Is it possible to fix that bug on his beard? 0:18

    • @Maratbeks
      @Maratbeks 2 месяца назад +26

      It's not a bug, it's because of the scar on his face

    • @pedrobaptista1578
      @pedrobaptista1578 2 месяца назад +13

      @@Maratbeks dam now i feel dumb

    • @waffler-yz3gw
      @waffler-yz3gw 2 месяца назад +2

      lol that always did bewilder me, but it is a scar. don't think its ever explained ingame, but its a fun detail. i keep my arthur at 3 beard length so it's not too prominent

    • @Farfigschiter.
      @Farfigschiter. 2 месяца назад

      Pretty hard to spot when your playing from a good distance away