2:35 Yes that pronunciation is similar to the word that means “cute”. But that’s “kawaii”. For Kawai the piano, it’s a family name form by two Japanese characters, “Kawa” and “i”, symbolises ancestry links to the place where rivers merge.
I think you're perhaps being a bit ambitious to suggest to an American that they attend to linguistic distinctions in other parts of the planet. Even in their own version(s) of English, linguistic distinctions are not a strong point. ;-)
Sauter as a leading brand??? Leading in what terms! Are you kidding me? It's hard to understand..Bechstein 7? Steinway #9??? Who made this? It's ridiculous. I don't have time to dispute this very strange list. Let me just suggest that If you are needing information on piano brands, build quality, there are other YT videos you really should should consult.
with all due respect, you did not mention petrof brand, petrof is a legendary family owned company as well as the others, it has soft and warm sound. compare to the relative low price is among the best piano brands.
Petrof also has black keys that are more narrow than others making it easier ofr people with wide fingers to play. The soft and warm sound makes it comfortable to listen to as compared to the sound of a Yamaha which sends small shockwaves up my spine. Not a very well researched video.
You are wrong about the meaning of Kawai (河合) . It's the founder's last name, Koichi Kawai, means merging rivers, something like that. Kawaii (可愛い）means cute, pretty, adorable like you said. Those two use different characters in Japanese and when I hear Kawai, Kawaii never comes up to my mind. That being said, I love Shigeru Kawai, who is a son of the founder, Koichi who created the high-end Shigeru Kawai pianos.
Generally good piano. This year in May 23 I played the Sk EK concert grand.. Very nice.. Just a little lower than the top European pianos which I've also played
What about Stuart and Sons? The first time I heard a Stuart was on television. Next to it was a Steinway concert grand. Somebody played part of a Haydn sonata on the Steinway, and then the Stuart. I nearly fell off the chair. I realised that centuries of keyboard manufacture was plagued by a serious design fault, that of pinning the strings to the bridge. This turns the sound board from being a sound radiating device, to a load bearing device (approx ½ ton downward force). In addition, 19 tons of force exerted by the strings tends to straighten them, resulting in micro buckling of the bridge and soundboard. As a result the soundboard is significantly thicker and less responsive. In addition, horizontal forces act on the string causing the string to vibrate in an ellipse instead of straight up and down, as it should. The ellipse rapidly flattens and the string ends up vibrating horizontally. All of this causes the following problems: 1) A very poor, unnatural envelope which rapidly decays. 2) Pathetic sustain. 3) Distortion on every note. (Proven by Dr. Bob Anderson, applied mathematician with Australia's CSIRO. Bob won an international mathematics award for his upgrading of the equations pertaining to vibrating strings). Compare a Steinway or other pinned instrument with a Stuart: The Stuart has up to 108 keys, 11 of them being treble keys. With the lousy sustain and poor envelope, this is absolutely impossible on a pinned piano. The Stuart is significantly louder than a pinned piano. The Stuart is significantly softer than a pinned piano. The sustain on a pinned piano is about 20 seconds. On the Stuart it is over 1 minute, reaching about 90 seconds. The envelope is much flatter, giving a fuller and better sound. There is a 4th pedal which changes the distance from the hammer to the string, giving a pianissimo which is impossible on a pinned piano. With its bridge agraffe, the Stuart is on the leading edge of piano design and construction. If we had the bridge agraffe all along, we wouldn't have the restrictions on piano composition that we have had. They all take into account the fact that the sound dies away in a matter of seconds. If you want the future, and a far more versatile and beautiful instrument, get a Stuart. If you want to live in the Stone Age, get a pinned piano.
Arrrggghhhh! There goes 16 minutes I will not get back again. More tha nust a few errors. Anyhow if you are serious, don't look at videos, just go out and play as many as you can get your fingers on. And don't forget professionally rebuilt older pianos, including ones from the 1920s, you can get a lot of piano for the money, but be very careful.
"poet laure-eight" "Betchsteen" However, he pronounces "Paolo" in Paolo Fazioli like a proper Italian. The copy, though, is horrendous. "Manufacturers of pianos frequently have grand-sounding names that may be readily associated with legal offices." What a ludicrous statement! Call me a hater, I don't care. Anyone notice the final image--the guy plunking at a key over and over, as if he was trying to get something out of a vending machine? Check it out. It's hilarious!
I absolutely fell in love with my Schimmel when I first played it. I was absolutely moved, more than any other of the 50-odd of the other pianos in the shop. It was a 15 year old piano, and on the second hand list. I ended up buying it about 6 months later - extending my home loan to do so. 20 years on I still have my Schimmel, and feel like I own the best piano I've ever played. There may be better pianos, but I've never played any other piano that I prefer over my own.
Please do your research before jumping into false conclusions. Kawai is 河合, the surname of the founder Kawai Koichi (河合小市 note that Asians read/write their surnames before their given names), rather than 'cute/lovable' (kawaii 可愛い). And Bechstein is pronounced as Bech-STYNE rather than Bech-steen. You seemed to be confused yourself by constantly switching between these two pronunciations. Again do your research. Last but not least, why you were showing all grand piano pictures while talking about uprights is totally beyond me.
Love the ass covering at the end! These are not our opinions and you can't hold us to them. Actually Samicks aren't that bad (though I haven't owned one since 2006). Pianos are made to a price point and of the brands touted in this video only Yamaha and Kawai offer pianos at halfway reasonable prices. All the others are premium brands whose products will cost more than your average car. Also a five year warranty is a short one in the piano business, ten years is more typical.
Thanks. Don't worry about all the negative comments. You are doing this to help people and I appreciate it lol. Thanks for showing me some interesting pianos I didn't know before.
It's absolutely insane to expect us to try to very carefully and tediously listen to a low commentary underneath the extremely loud music. What a bizarre thing to do. Screw it. I don't have patience for it.
Also, the narrater mispronounces the names of some of the pianos as well as the names of some of the composers mention. These errors definitely detract from the purpose of the video.
Interesting video ! I once had a Young Chang upright U 121 ,it was the best piano i've had in my life taking into consideration that i'm not a wealthy man 🙂 to buy something else more expensive ! Your video is very interesting !
After 24 years with a Young Chang 5'9" concert grand (1988) that I purchased in in1998. I have to say, it was amazing!!!i LOVED my Young Chang. Calles in question the veracity of this video.
#1) Schimmel. Yeah. Get a K230 - 7.5 foot perfection. Only about $80,000 - so such a sweet bargain!!! If you desire the most perfectly "European" piano sound and touch, it is all at your fingertips with a Schimmel K230.
Samik and Young Chang has been around for quite long and Young Chang owned numerous German brands.. not sure of now but Kurzweil for long time on digital keyboard industry. I grew up listening to many pianos.. not so much on top lines, but they were fine. I rather hated some American brands I bought. After watching, it sound like this is based on history and bias, not real sound..
good topics discussed here ... yet pity the image quality is so low (480) while the background music is not only badly distorted, it's also TOO LOUD, distracting the viewer from the main subject matter ...
Well fairly good review but a few errors.. 1) The largest grand is 11' Borgato. 2) C Bechstein is the company which now has cheaper lines. Bechstein Hoffmann 3) Steiingraeber also makes upright pianos. Samick and Young chang are low end but certainty not 'toy' pianos. What about Petrof Estonia Ronisch Seiler August Forster ? etc...
@@benedictdsilva3954You lack of knowledge makes me rest my case. Do your homework and do your research. When you have played them all, then come back and we can talk.
@andersnielsen6044 I've probably played more brands than you..Do you know what mid and lower end pianos are made by the top companies? Tell me what all you've played..? Your preference is based on the few you've played.... Rest your case till you've played some more pianos.
The worst sounding and best sounding are Steinways and sons. Some are clear sounding and some are humming an buzzing, they are very inconsistent. (They have "personality"). For me that's a sign of low quality.
I kinda curious where you got the idea that Samick and Young Chang is bad piano. As I browse the internet, Samick actually one of the largest piano manufacturer in the world. They also have several premium brands for more luxurious market. While Young Chang is already bankrupt since early 2000s, they regarded as a good piano as well. Looks like you need to do more research before make this video because its misleading.
Steinway and sons somewhat washed the states with their pianos by offering big concert halls like carnegie exceptionally cheap concert grands to ensure they stuck with steinway for the forseeable future, this is potentially one of the reasons steinway and son was able to dominate the space for so long and excel from being a very good brand to often considered the best in the world.
This video is ruined by schmaltzy piano music. Also, Young Chang is not a "bad" piano. Plus AI voice is not intelligent and mispronounces words and names.
There’s Kawai… and then there’s Kawai. Even their GL models are fabulous (those made in Japan).
I had hoped to hear about the Mason & Hamlin, one of the finest piano brands to grace your parlor at home or a concert stage.
2:35
Yes that pronunciation is similar to the word that means “cute”.
But that’s “kawaii”.
For Kawai the piano, it’s a family name form by two Japanese characters, “Kawa” and “i”, symbolises ancestry links to the place where rivers merge.
I think you're perhaps being a bit ambitious to suggest to an American that they attend to linguistic distinctions in other parts of the planet.
Even in their own version(s) of English, linguistic distinctions are not a strong point. ;-)
@@willo7979 it's an AI voice🎹🎶
Sauter as a leading brand??? Leading in what terms! Are you kidding me? It's hard to understand..Bechstein 7? Steinway #9??? Who made this? It's ridiculous.
I don't have time to dispute this very strange list.
Let me just suggest that If you are needing information on piano brands, build quality, there are other YT videos you really should should consult.
@Taldanmus they're also incorrect in mentioning the Steinway B's and D's lenkth, and saying Yung-Chang is from China🎹🎶
Not to mention that, as far as I know, the largest concert grand is not the Fazioli, but the Borgato grand prix 333
with all due respect, you did not mention petrof brand, petrof is a legendary family owned company as well as the others, it has soft and warm sound. compare to the relative low price is among the best piano brands.
Petrof also has black keys that are more narrow than others making it easier ofr people with wide fingers to play. The soft and warm sound makes it comfortable to listen to as compared to the sound of a Yamaha which sends small shockwaves up my spine. Not a very well researched video.
You are wrong about the meaning of Kawai (河合) . It's the founder's last name, Koichi Kawai, means merging rivers, something like that. Kawaii (可愛い）means cute, pretty, adorable like you said. Those two use different characters in Japanese and when I hear Kawai, Kawaii never comes up to my mind. That being said, I love Shigeru Kawai, who is a son of the founder, Koichi who created the high-end Shigeru Kawai pianos.
Thanks for the info
Generally good piano. This year in May 23 I played the Sk EK concert grand..
Very nice..
Just a little lower than the top European pianos which I've also played
I own an old 170 cm long Bluthner and this is truly amazing piano.
One of the FINEST pianos I ever had the luxury to play was a 6.5? foot Blüthner. Incredible singing tonal production.
Contrary to what this video says, Steinway is not owned by the original family. It has changed hands several times.
What about Stuart and Sons?
The first time I heard a Stuart was on television. Next to it was a Steinway concert grand. Somebody played part of a Haydn sonata on the Steinway, and then the Stuart. I nearly fell off the chair. I realised that centuries of keyboard manufacture was plagued by a serious design fault, that of pinning the strings to the bridge.
This turns the sound board from being a sound radiating device, to a load bearing device (approx ½ ton downward force). In addition, 19 tons of force exerted by the strings tends to straighten them, resulting in micro buckling of the bridge and soundboard. As a result the soundboard is significantly thicker and less responsive.
In addition, horizontal forces act on the string causing the string to vibrate in an ellipse instead of straight up and down, as it should. The ellipse rapidly flattens and the string ends up vibrating horizontally. All of this causes the following problems:
1) A very poor, unnatural envelope which rapidly decays.
2) Pathetic sustain.
3) Distortion on every note. (Proven by Dr. Bob Anderson, applied mathematician with Australia's CSIRO. Bob won an international mathematics award for his upgrading of the equations pertaining to vibrating strings).
Compare a Steinway or other pinned instrument with a Stuart:
The Stuart has up to 108 keys, 11 of them being treble keys. With the lousy sustain and poor envelope, this is absolutely impossible on a pinned piano.
The Stuart is significantly louder than a pinned piano.
The Stuart is significantly softer than a pinned piano.
The sustain on a pinned piano is about 20 seconds. On the Stuart it is over 1 minute, reaching about 90 seconds.
The envelope is much flatter, giving a fuller and better sound.
There is a 4th pedal which changes the distance from the hammer to the string, giving a pianissimo which is impossible on a pinned piano.
With its bridge agraffe, the Stuart is on the leading edge of piano design and construction.
If we had the bridge agraffe all along, we wouldn't have the restrictions on piano composition that we have had. They all take into account the fact that the sound dies away in a matter of seconds.
If you want the future, and a far more versatile and beautiful instrument, get a Stuart. If you want to live in the Stone Age, get a pinned piano.
Steingraeber, Grotrian, Saüter, Forster, Seiler, Bechstein, Fazioli, Ant. Petrof, Mason & Hamlin
I've played several new Petrof Cocert Grands and have to say they left me unimpressed.
I find it odd that after introducing the upright type they show all grand and baby grands.
Arrrggghhhh! There goes 16 minutes I will not get back again. More tha nust a few errors. Anyhow if you are serious, don't look at videos, just go out and play as many as you can get your fingers on. And don't forget professionally rebuilt older pianos, including ones from the 1920s, you can get a lot of piano for the money, but be very careful.
How could Mason & Hamlin possibly be omitted from a list of best pianos??? Yamahaha is better??
Not really, we are a making a better list where mason & hamlin comes into the. expect a quality video this time and thanks for the feedback
Thumbs down for computer voice narration.
"Steingräber and Sony" Good grief!
"poet laure-eight" "Betchsteen" However, he pronounces "Paolo" in Paolo Fazioli like a proper Italian. The copy, though, is horrendous. "Manufacturers of pianos frequently have grand-sounding names that may be readily associated with legal offices." What a ludicrous statement! Call me a hater, I don't care. Anyone notice the final image--the guy plunking at a key over and over, as if he was trying to get something out of a vending machine? Check it out. It's hilarious!
And Schimmel? You didn't mention it... among all those piano brands you described Schimmel should have been added too.
I absolutely fell in love with my Schimmel when I first played it. I was absolutely moved, more than any other of the 50-odd of the other pianos in the shop. It was a 15 year old piano, and on the second hand list. I ended up buying it about 6 months later - extending my home loan to do so. 20 years on I still have my Schimmel, and feel like I own the best piano I've ever played. There may be better pianos, but I've never played any other piano that I prefer over my own.
Any enthusiasm I had for this video disintegrated after I saw your thumbnail grand piano photo was “flipped.”
what about Petrof？
ok we till look into that as update
Please do your research before jumping into false conclusions.
Kawai is 河合, the surname of the founder Kawai Koichi (河合小市 note that Asians read/write their surnames before their given names), rather than 'cute/lovable' (kawaii 可愛い).
And Bechstein is pronounced as Bech-STYNE rather than Bech-steen. You seemed to be confused yourself by constantly switching between these two pronunciations.
Again do your research.
Last but not least, why you were showing all grand piano pictures while talking about uprights is totally beyond me.
Bechstein is pronounced Beh-shtine; it has no sounds "k" or "s" in there.
@@sashole1 No, it's pronounced "Feh! sh'itne". So there.
Love the ass covering at the end! These are not our opinions and you can't hold us to them. Actually Samicks aren't that bad (though I haven't owned one since 2006). Pianos are made to a price point and of the brands touted in this video only Yamaha and Kawai offer pianos at halfway reasonable prices. All the others are premium brands whose products will cost more than your average car. Also a five year warranty is a short one in the piano business, ten years is more typical.
The background loud music makes it difficult to focus on what he talks about
Thanks. Don't worry about all the negative comments. You are doing this to help people and I appreciate it lol. Thanks for showing me some interesting pianos I didn't know before.
I''m glad that you mentioned uprights which are practical for many of us.
Totally! Uprights are super handy
Got a bad mix on this video. Push music down a bit and brighten the voice-over.
Hi! What about those forgotten brands who did its pianos at the 18/19 century and Beethoven, Schubert, Chopin played on it....???
Too much piano music going on... can't hear the commentary. I lost interest completely at the 2 minute mark.
It's absolutely insane to expect us to try to very carefully and tediously listen to a low commentary underneath the extremely loud music. What a bizarre thing to do. Screw it. I don't have patience for it.
we apologize for this issue. we have cautioned our video editors on this issues. thank you
Also, the narrater mispronounces the names of some of the pianos as well as the names of some of the composers mention. These errors definitely detract from the purpose of the video.
Schimmel????
a new list is coming. schimmel has a special category
this is amazing, I love it
I guess you couldn't teach the computer voice to pronounce the brands correctly.
Interesting video ! I once had a Young Chang upright U 121 ,it was the best piano i've had in my life taking into consideration that i'm not a wealthy man 🙂 to buy something else more expensive ! Your video is very interesting !
I would not put Yamaha on the top ten list. I prefer Schimmel, or Feurich for example.
What about Kawai, especially the Shigeru Kawai series?
It's #2 Einstein. And they STINK
The man on the digital keyboard has some serious chops !!!
Yep...I wanted to hears exactly wtf he was playing.
A milestone has been reached: Mozart's name pronounced with a hard Z. Which I believe is the 5th Horseman of the Apocalypse.
After 24 years with a Young Chang 5'9" concert grand (1988) that I purchased in in1998. I have to say, it was amazing!!!i LOVED my Young Chang. Calles in question the veracity of this video.
Give it another 50 years it will be be Old Chang.
@@matrox sold it with the house. Lol!!!
#1) Schimmel. Yeah. Get a K230 - 7.5 foot perfection. Only about $80,000 - so such a sweet bargain!!!
If you desire the most perfectly "European" piano sound and touch, it is all at your fingertips with a Schimmel K230.
How much are they?
@@matroxYou will not even get a little upright standing piano from Bösendorfer at $80k. ;)
Amazing and interseting video ❤
Samik and Young Chang has been around for quite long and Young Chang owned numerous German brands.. not sure of now but Kurzweil for long time on digital keyboard industry. I grew up listening to many pianos.. not so much on top lines, but they were fine. I rather hated some American brands I bought. After watching, it sound like this is based on history and bias, not real sound..
we are making better list this time. the feedback.
good topics discussed here ... yet pity the image quality is so low (480) while the background music is not only badly distorted, it's also TOO LOUD, distracting the viewer from the main subject matter ...
I have taken down all these corrections, and I am currently making a new series of piano list, expect the best quality. thanks for the feedback
Has Steingraeber stopped making uprights?
Rich. Lipp & Sohn would perhaps get a mention if this did not originate in the US (where, for some reason, they were AFAIK never distributed).
What about Baldwin pianos?😢
« It’s a priceless Steinway! »
« Not anymore »
Peter Sellers « Pink Panther »
Why isn’t Schimmel on the grand piano list????
we are about to drop a new list of pianos... you will be surprised under what it falls under
Yea it is weird that they don't mention Schimmel, Seiler or Mason & Hamlin.
What happened with the piano lid on the thumbnail? 😬
Well fairly good review but a few errors..
1) The largest grand is 11' Borgato.
2) C Bechstein is the company which now has cheaper lines.
Bechstein Hoffmann
3) Steiingraeber also makes upright pianos.
Samick and Young chang are low end but certainty not 'toy' pianos.
What about Petrof Estonia Ronisch Seiler August Forster ? etc...
Or Ritmuller, Hornung & Møller, Ravenscroft...
@@andersnielsen6044 Ritmuller doubtful.
Send me links of the others
@@benedictdsilva3954You lack of knowledge makes me rest my case. Do your homework and do your research. When you have played them all, then come back and we can talk.
@andersnielsen6044 I've probably played more brands than you..Do you know what mid and lower end pianos are made by the top companies?
Tell me what all you've played..? Your preference is based on the few you've played.... Rest your case till you've played some more pianos.
Yes most of thel lesser known German names are pianos made in China
What did Jerry Lee Lewis play? He beat the hell out of his pianos then set them on fire!
I have a problem hearing you brother! Music 2 loud
Nice.
I guess you are the chosen one
Young Chang Grands dont sound that bad in my experience. Sometimes really great
But they hurt like hell to play on
@@theadventureinsider i only heard them. Is the action that bad?
My experience playing a Young Chang in college was that the action was really fast and easy. I could fly on that thing!
You might have bothered pronouncing the makers' names correctly. Steingraeber makes upright pianos as well as grands.
we are going to drop a new list with better pronounciation. thanks for you review
If I want an AMERICAN sounding piano, I would choose a 9 foot Baldwin grand.
The worst sounding and best sounding are Steinways and sons. Some are clear sounding and some are humming an buzzing, they are very inconsistent. (They have "personality"). For me that's a sign of low quality.
Bluthner comes with 10 year warranty which is twice of Bechstein!!
You can't be serious!
Yoshiki Kawai Piano
I kinda curious where you got the idea that Samick and Young Chang is bad piano. As I browse the internet, Samick actually one of the largest piano manufacturer in the world. They also have several premium brands for more luxurious market. While Young Chang is already bankrupt since early 2000s, they regarded as a good piano as well. Looks like you need to do more research before make this video because its misleading.
Large manufacturers does not make it a Good piano. Also I do not know of any great respected symphony that uses a young change piano, do you!
Scheidmayer and sohne?
Kawai 13' grand
Akasaka hotel 4th basement Tokyo
...a super expensive "Steinway" is on 9-th position but it occupied the absolutely all concert halls in world.... USA's racket?
Steinway and sons somewhat washed the states with their pianos by offering big concert halls like carnegie exceptionally cheap concert grands to ensure they stuck with steinway for the forseeable future, this is potentially one of the reasons steinway and son was able to dominate the space for so long and excel from being a very good brand to often considered the best in the world.
If kauai is so great why did they copy the steinway when the patents expired.
Kawai
C.Becstien
Hoffman
I give you the PIN and you say NO,,,------piano...
This video is ruined by schmaltzy piano music. Also, Young Chang is not a "bad" piano. Plus AI voice is not intelligent and mispronounces words and names.
I am making a new video on pianos with a smooth background sound, and the voice over is very intelligent. thanks for your feed back
Number 1,
Yamaha
Obviously you dont know how the upright piano look like.
I am going to make a better list soon on upright pianos. thanks for the comment
The music is louder than you.