For most general purpose photography I would recommend the Z8. However, if you print extra large scale and/or output with the best professional print equipment, then the extra bit depth of the GFX system can offset the slower sensor readouts and the oversized glass you have to carry. I’m also a fan of the 4:3 aspect ratio in GFX, but for my current work I find a Z9 to be my better choice.
I haven't seen 4:3 displays for a long time, they all are 16:9 nowadays, and that's what I always shoot. So both sensors will be cropped, and GFX will lose more real estate, so the difference between them will be even smaller.
@@ElementaryWatson-123 4:3 framing for photography opens up a lot of unique possibilities compared to the more typical 3:2 of the SLR heritage cameras such as the Nikon. Though there are creative reasons in narrative films to consider alternative ratios, not to mention the flexibility of open gate video which offers a lot more vertical area to work with for reframing a shot in post, or for cropped vertical “social” ratios without having to rotate the camera sensor. Though I’m not sure off the top of my head how many options these cameras provide in video.
@@ElementaryWatson-123 you can crop GFX files in any way and have more resolution at the end, but it’s not the point. GFX gives you thick colors, well preserved details and great starting point for editing. You can do awesome RE job with any camera, especially using lowest ISO and fine lighting, but it’s impossible to beat GFX in terms of high quality prints.
As a Nikon user and a Fujifilm user, this is very interesting to watch. I think certain things are down to the individual, I hate swing round LCD display, which I have on the X-H2, and I love to panel on the GFX100s and II. I also hate the built into the body strap, that the GFX100II, as it makes it impossible to mount my Optec strap, which I find so much better than a normal strap. With the GFX100II it should be mentioned that when shooting at 8fps, I believe the image quality drops to 12 bit raw, instead of 16 bit raw. The other issue is the rolling shutter of the GFX100II, whilst the sensor reads twice as fast as the GFX100 sensor, you still can get issues with movement and rolling shutter, which the Z8, does not suffer from, due to the exceptionally fast read out speed. With the noise, you have to remember that the GFX100II has 102mp, and you are looking much closer at the image, if you compared the two images together at the same size. I have to say I love both cameras. I have the D850, and the GFX100s, and think the Z8 and GFX100II are in many ways a big step up in quality. The one exception is image quality. The D850 and Z8 image quality is very similar with the D850, in theory having very slightly better dynamic range. The same can be said with the GFX100s and 100II, the sensors, are basically the same, and you will find very little difference in image quality. With both cameras, if you need the higher shooting speeds, and better autofocus, then it is well worth upgrading, but currently, I find it hard to justify upgrading to either cameras, even though I know they are better in so many ways.
Great video, seems fair and balanced the way you conducted your analysis. I’d like to see a similar test, especially color and image, between the GFX 100 II and Hasselblad X2D 100C
I recently tried a GFX 100ii at a photo fair. I found the autofocus to be rubbish, but when it hit, the details of the image were astonishing. You can definitely get more keepers with FF.
I am not MF owner yet but thinking to get one, so I rent the GFX II for a week ( with the 110 for portrait shot) , I also found the GFX100 II's AF/eye tracking system falls so far behind my Z9, image quality is great though, just the focusing is very frustrating.
@dannyli9424 I'm in the process of figuring out what I want from my photo gear. The Nikon F2 ruined me. Even after getting decent lenses for my Sony, there's something missing. Part of me thinks an upgrade in image quality might do it, but im not sure. Perhaps I should go with Leica or Hasselblad, but again, it's a big investment and neither system is perfect. For now, I might just stick with the Nikon F2.
Jay, thank you for this superb comparison!! I was unaware that the GFX system uses the Bayer sensor, and most interesting that the GFX image was a bit sharper than the non-Bayer filter FF image! I'm considering going MF (using a FF Nikon Z System now) for landscape, product and macro photography, and was wondering if you had an opinion on whether the Fujinon GF lenses are as sharp or sharper than the equivalent Hasselblad XC lenses, particularly the 120 Macro? (Currently I use an IRIX 150 f/2.8 Macro lens on a Nikon Z8, which does yield ultra-sharp images, but since I'm printing rather large, hence my reason for considering a MF System.) Thank you!
The Nikon is an excellent allround performer. For absolute image quality, the GFX produces results the Nikon cannot touch. However, I think that the Hasselblad X2D, with full 16 bit colour and incredible lenses, is the new benchmark for stills.
Yep, but X2D focus is so slow so I see no reason to have it for anything except landscapes. And it doesn’t have TS or any telephoto lenses. Very limited in use lovely camera :-)
I'd say at best, this is like comparing apples to oranges. The Z8 is purpose built for speed and high resolution, the Fuji is built for resolution primarily. For most people, the Z8 would be a more suitable, well-rounded camera for anything. I'd probably only say to get the GFX 100 series if you're doing landscape or commercial work or anything you know will be printed large for sure (that requires that many megapixels) but for most people, the Z8 will be plenty (after all, it's like 95% of Nikon's flagship camera in a smaller, cheaper body). The ideal solution, if money is no object, is to have a Z8, maybe a Z6 III or Zf, and a GFX 100 to cover pretty much everything one could possibly need. But that would be an expensive setup when you add in lenses for both systems.
medium format is what you think of studio photography and maybe landscape, but they were usually way too expensive. Now they are more doable. Z8 is more of an overall photography camera and a lens selection to back it up.. got the Z8, but always thinking of MF in the future.
I haven't chose one over the other, I chose both. Granted, not everyone wants both, but I see them as tools for two different scenarios. The biggest issue going back and forth is that the bodies work opposite in may ways (lens mounting, switches, etc.) but I don't use both at the same time.
I Have both cameras and once you shoot medium format you see the difference… for my work i hardly take my z8…I’m actually selling the z8, keep my 2x z6ii for weddings events etc… but for studio and outdoor shoots, GFX all the way… GFX100s with 100 f2 and 45 2.8 my killer combo
I cannot believe at this price point I would have to buy extra gear just to make it work. I'm not talking lenses or mem cards. I'm talking about having to buy an outboard screen so that I can use these cameras. Bad decisions by the manufacturer instantly disqualifies these cameras for me. I don't need to see other spec. I don't tolerate bad design or equipment that fights with me. I buy products that make my life easier and/or better. I would consider these cameras as prototypes, not ready to be placed in the market. Also, these cameras need a built in connector to attach pro gear through an add on module that I call a brick which would include 1 T mem. XLR connectors, extra battery and outboard power. The brick would cost extra but would connect to the camera directly without cords. These companies forget that buyers have the last "NO!" Good video. Keep up the good work.
Here we are comparing apples and oranges. One is a full frame camera on the other is a medium format camera they can't be compared. Well I guess they can. However for Image. quality the GFX 100 should do much better. And the z8 will do very well as a full frame camera and the reviews show that. But the one thing we need to compare that it's not compared in your review is the cost. the cost of these two cameras are very much different the z8 coming in at about 4,000 The GFX 100 coming in around $8,000 double the price. However I enjoyed this review it brings up some very fine points that should be considered. For the money the z8 is the best deal however the Fuji is an extremely fine camera and if I can afford it I think I would buy one.
How about the new feature in Nikon that could raise image quality and final file size for large printing !!!!! Sorry, forgot what it's called ... have it on my Zf and Z8 !!!
For Fuji description doesn’t tell if you set focus priority over speed and what kind of eye priority was chosen. It changes a lot. Turning AF+MF off helps to exclude out of focus shots too. By default GFX doesn’t have the best settings for precise focusing. Also you compare top of the line Nikon 50/1.2 lens with old average 63/2.8, while 55/1.7 is the newest and most sharp lens for GFX. Not all GF lenses have the same focusing speed, LM lenses are faster, so there is no direct competitor for 50/1.2. For existing users this review doesn’t show anything new, and new users don’t know what’s going on behind the curtains. Dynamic range test is not correct to my eye and doesn’t show how much better 16-bits files are. It’s just an opinion, thanks for video. At the end have to say they both behind the old Canon R5 in terms of AF quality.
I have z9 and gfx100ii. Z9 is at least 3 stop better at night with both 2.8 lens. For Fuji is f 4.0. And when I use gfx100ii is not reliable. It broke after one month I bought. I never have problems with my Nikon. I feel regret buying it
I appreciate these comparisons because I'm in love with the idea of the GFX, but a Nikon Z8 or Sony A7rV would probably be smarter choice for me overall, budget and sanity wise.
Something you didn't touch on was lens availability. The Z8 has many more lenses available for it, including a wide range of zoom lenses, from a wide variety of manufacturers. With the Fujifilm camera, you're limited to the lenses made for it by Fuji. And those lenses are significantly more expensive than lenses for full frame cameras. Something to consider.
Different markets. For large scale print work the GFX wins. For portability (eg location based work involving distance) Nikon, Canon, Sony, Fuji X, Leica M / CL are all great. Many commercial photographers will use both systems for different tasks.
Hi, I’m shooting with Fujifilm gfx100s but it’s not good for all types of photography which I like (Portrait, Landscape, Still-life). It’s heavy and bulky with gf lenses to carry around, and slow for sports and wildlife if sometimes I like to experience it! But it seems Z8 is all in one camera. The only matter important to me is if I switch to Z8, with 14bit and 45mp, could I achieve the same high images quality (detailing, colour rendering, and deep dynamic range) by gfx100s with 16bit and 102mp? Thank you.
@@mrz1342he means that you will not achieve the same “technical” image capture with the Nikon setup, since a lower bit-depth (14bit) is far fewer colors, and the smaller sensor and pixels of the Nikon mean less effective resolution and less color accuracy at the pixel level. Aesthetically: on a computer monitor, other than color science and DOF, you might not see a big difference between Nikon and GFX files. In print, and with a printer capable of handling 16bit files, you’ll most definitely see the strength of GFX over Nikon. So, no - you ultimately cant “match” the image file aesthetics of a Nikon to a GFX. The GFX wins handily in almost every technical category, and will produce technically better images in the hands of someone capable and experienced. But if all you do is pixel-peep, then the Nikon is enough.
@@DBML1 How about the new feature in Nikon that could raise image quality and final file size for large printing !!!!! Sorry, forgot what it's called ... have it on my Zf and Z8 !!!
This is an excellent review. If I needed to make one change it would have been to include the size and weight of comperable lenses; because a camera is nothing without its lenses, and lense selection (focal lengths and sizes) are important factors to influence a purchase decision.
Is it just me or does the shot of the eyes punched in look better on the Nikon? I can't tell if the white on the lower eyelid are artifacts or just specular highlights. The GFX looks sharper but doesn't look better imo.
It's worth noting that the Fujinon 63mm lens is one of only two lenses (I think?) in the entire GFX line-up that use a stepping motor. Most of the others, including the 110/2 use linear motors. The autofocus on the stepping motor is slower and noisier than the other lenses. It's entirely possible that it wouldn't have had any impact on the hit rate in your photo mode autofocus test, but as GFX 100 lenses go, the 45/2.8 and 63/2.8 will be the weakest AF performers. Also, in your list of codecs, you mentioned n-log for the Nikon, but didn't mention F-Log and F-Log 2 which are both supported by the Fuji. Of course, you also glossed over (I think?) some of the negatives of the Fuji a bit in the feature comparisons - like despite that the GFX 100 II supports 8K recording, it has to go to 1:1 pixels for it which results in cropping down to a smaller image area than a FF sensor. This can actually be kind of handy, like if you want to shoot with Laowa Nanomorphs, but it's almost certainly not what people think of with a 44mm wide sensor. The highest resolution using the full sensor width is 5.8k and that's at 2.4:1.
I had the Z8 but returned it and am buying the GFX 100 II. I found the four-way screen on the Z8 to be fiddly to flip out in vertical mode. Three’s no question that the Z8 has some amazing features and the AF is fantastic. It’s just not the camera for me.
@@castieldiallo2945 Nikon doesn't have a Try and Buy program where I live and it's not something I found annoying until testing it out in actual shooting conditions (not in the store). Anyway, it's returned and all is good now. 🙂
@@castieldiallo2945 No, that's not what I stated at all. I tried it out in the store and it wasn't until I actually used in on a real shoot that I found the screen fiddly. And, actually I was lucky because the store can't keep the Z8's in stock and I just managed to have a quick feel of one before they shipped it out to a customer. Normally, they don't have enough inventory to keep a display model. That's just the reality of having a small store.
Great comparison video, Jay! If I could offer a small bone to pick with you though, and coming from a full-time commercial photographer and filmmaker, the edginess of your music selection - for such a long video - is too bright and distracting, which not only doesn’t fit the context of the content, but gets really annoying after a while . . . And makes it tough to concentrate on your VO. Something more mellow, and with less edge or brightness, would really be a better fit in general - much less for longer vids like these. Otherwise everything else is on-point! ✌🏻
Good , but no surprises here… a flagship large format camera has better image quality than a full frame camera. I doubt anyone is cross-shopping these two cameras. Love my GFX100 II. So very good, provided it is used within its limitations. I haven’t owned a Nikon since the Z7… something a bit too harsh about the image left me wanting… And that’s not to say it’s a bad image. It’s down to personal preference. I’ll be curious to see how the Red acquisition plays out. Interesting times. I recently picked up the Sony A9 III… it’s an amazing camera. The A9 III marks my return to the Sony fold.
Great cameras and as always comes down to use case. Z8 is nearly half the price, add to that the af system and choice in lenses is phenomenal but you can’t argue with the quality of GFX ❤ Isn’t it wonderful that we all have choices and no matter what you use you’re getting so much choice.
An interesting comparison, thanks! Calling the iso test a draw was clearly wrong, just listening to your own words. The GFX was much better when overshooting 3 stops, but who would do that? The poor girl having to smile through the iso tests...
I think the issue here is that you're looking at high quality on your cpu. The GFX is very out of focus in both stills af test and video test. I think stopping down the lens 2 stops would help it tremendously b/c that shallow depth of field is not helping it. As for still detailed shots, the GFX tuns away with the double mp. However image quality imo goes to the Nikon. The pictures just look better. I think the GFX needs to be 50mp. I'd use the 100mp for shooting clothing, jewelry and tiny bugs. The Z8 I'd use it for portraiture, weddings, and everythings else. 8K 60fps internally 😅 but it seems you have like 50 comments telling you this is hilarious 😂 Don't let them get you down, you're with the hot model. It's hard to tell looking through YT. But based on YT compression, I give the nod to the Nikon Z8.
To be honest with video, people are going for smaller cameras.The video you can get 4K 60 out of a small crop centre camera.Near you don't need a big camera to do video
Plastic vs Metal. GFX all day. Is a shame that you didn´t refered about the build quality, as it makes a huge difference, and also about the experience. The options to just have the electronic shutter, and making the body in plastic, were the 2 main deal breaker. It´s insane how a company like Nikon, charging 4k for a camera made of plastic, aside of the specs.
This Fuji camera is fairly and squarely aimed at more static photography including landscape. I think that for 99% of the needs of pro photogarphers, the Z8 or the Z9 will be more than adequate. As for the other 1% for whom money is no object, there is always the question of Fuji or going for the ultimate Phase-One? I know which one I'd choose.
if you are gonna compare cameras. why dont you use same lenses at the same fstop and same distance from subject..help people see what the real differences of each camera...
I'm surprised how much Nikon color science has improved over the years, still not Canon or Fuji but really looking good, they are walking all over Sony in that regard and the ZF would be really tempting if I didn't have all Canon and Fuji glass.
A lot comes down to the individual whether you like a certain manufacturers colour science or not. I have always hated Canons colours, with the reddening of skin, whilst I found I could work around Nikons tones, much easier. Really though, for me the apex of colour science is Hasselblad, which is on another level.
I still believe that Nikon has the better color and dynamic range that is why I have the Z8 and Zf !!!!! Aside from that an awesome array of lenses at less the price than Sony's or Canon's !!!!!!! When I think I need MF then I may look at Phase-One !!!!!
How about the new feature in Nikon that could raise image quality and final file size for large printing !!!!! Sorry, forgot what it's called ... have it on my Zf and Z8 !!!
Why are people adding the word “Point” after the word Price. In all my 68 years we never spoke like that. The word point is unnecessary. It brings nothing to the sentence.
Here is an answer I googled: "What is the difference between price and price point? Price is the actual amount of money given in exchange for a product/service. Price point, on the other hand, is a point on a scale of possible prices for a product."
@@TheSlantedLens Ok, thanks. But since all the possible prices are not mention I still posit that its a new silly term and not necessary. Same for Usage 'Case"
I'm not sure what these camera companies are doing now. I don't like the image quality coming from any of these new cameras. The best image quality I've seen, from digital cameras are the Nikon D200, Df, and D3s, Leica M10, M10r, Q, and SL, Hasselblad H4D 40mp, H5D 50mp, and H6D 100mp, PhaseOne IQ2 60mp, IQ3 100mp, and IQ4 100mp, Samsung NX500, and Canon 5D I think the minimum pixel pitch for high quality APS-C and Full Frame sensors is above 6 microns. I think for full size medium format like the H6D is over 4 microns. The Samsung NX500 seems to be the only camera with a small sensor that is just stupidly gorgeous with 3.61 microns. But that makes me believe the other companies are holding back.
I USED Z9, every time i tried to recover shadows i saw the sensor lines in them, nobody talks about it, but is there, fine lines crossing each other@@stevetqp9152 , for me the ebst nikon sensor ever made was Nikon d810
For most general purpose photography I would recommend the Z8. However, if you print extra large scale and/or output with the best professional print equipment, then the extra bit depth of the GFX system can offset the slower sensor readouts and the oversized glass you have to carry. I’m also a fan of the 4:3 aspect ratio in GFX, but for my current work I find a Z9 to be my better choice.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts about the two cameras!
I haven't seen 4:3 displays for a long time, they all are 16:9 nowadays, and that's what I always shoot. So both sensors will be cropped, and GFX will lose more real estate, so the difference between them will be even smaller.
@@ElementaryWatson-123 4:3 framing for photography opens up a lot of unique possibilities compared to the more typical 3:2 of the SLR heritage cameras such as the Nikon. Though there are creative reasons in narrative films to consider alternative ratios, not to mention the flexibility of open gate video which offers a lot more vertical area to work with for reframing a shot in post, or for cropped vertical “social” ratios without having to rotate the camera sensor. Though I’m not sure off the top of my head how many options these cameras provide in video.
@@waveland perhaps it offers opportunities for somebody, but that's not me or anybody I know. I need to fill the screen and that means 16:9.
@@ElementaryWatson-123 you can crop GFX files in any way and have more resolution at the end, but it’s not the point. GFX gives you thick colors, well preserved details and great starting point for editing. You can do awesome RE job with any camera, especially using lowest ISO and fine lighting, but it’s impossible to beat GFX in terms of high quality prints.
😊 couldn’t decide. Bought both of them.
That would be awesome!
I bought 2 of both
They seem different tools for different jobs. However I would take the Nikon Z8 any day.
Agreed, they are both great cameras for different purposes.
Both are cameras that I want. This is a comparison that I wanted that no one would do...until now. Thanks!
Glad to hear you enjoyed the comparison!
As a Nikon user and a Fujifilm user, this is very interesting to watch. I think certain things are down to the individual, I hate swing round LCD display, which I have on the X-H2, and I love to panel on the GFX100s and II. I also hate the built into the body strap, that the GFX100II, as it makes it impossible to mount my Optec strap, which I find so much better than a normal strap.
With the GFX100II it should be mentioned that when shooting at 8fps, I believe the image quality drops to 12 bit raw, instead of 16 bit raw. The other issue is the rolling shutter of the GFX100II, whilst the sensor reads twice as fast as the GFX100 sensor, you still can get issues with movement and rolling shutter, which the Z8, does not suffer from, due to the exceptionally fast read out speed.
With the noise, you have to remember that the GFX100II has 102mp, and you are looking much closer at the image, if you compared the two images together at the same size.
I have to say I love both cameras. I have the D850, and the GFX100s, and think the Z8 and GFX100II are in many ways a big step up in quality. The one exception is image quality. The D850 and Z8 image quality is very similar with the D850, in theory having very slightly better dynamic range. The same can be said with the GFX100s and 100II, the sensors, are basically the same, and you will find very little difference in image quality. With both cameras, if you need the higher shooting speeds, and better autofocus, then it is well worth upgrading, but currently, I find it hard to justify upgrading to either cameras, even though I know they are better in so many ways.
Great to hear about your experiences with both camera lines.
so if you shoot below 8fps is it at 16 bit raw? or 14 bit raw do you know?
From what I have been told, D850 has better dynamic range vs the Z8/Z9
The Z8 records all of its video formats internally, including 8k 60 RAW.
Thanks for pointing that out!
Great video, seems fair and balanced the way you conducted your analysis. I’d like to see a similar test, especially color and image, between the GFX 100 II and Hasselblad X2D 100C
Great suggestion! We will see what we can do!
I recently tried a GFX 100ii at a photo fair. I found the autofocus to be rubbish, but when it hit, the details of the image were astonishing. You can definitely get more keepers with FF.
Thank you for sharing your experience!
I am not MF owner yet but thinking to get one, so I rent the GFX II for a week ( with the 110 for portrait shot) , I also found the GFX100 II's AF/eye tracking system falls so far behind my Z9, image quality is great though, just the focusing is very frustrating.
@dannyli9424 I'm in the process of figuring out what I want from my photo gear. The Nikon F2 ruined me. Even after getting decent lenses for my Sony, there's something missing. Part of me thinks an upgrade in image quality might do it, but im not sure. Perhaps I should go with Leica or Hasselblad, but again, it's a big investment and neither system is perfect. For now, I might just stick with the Nikon F2.
Jay, thank you for this superb comparison!! I was unaware that the GFX system uses the Bayer sensor, and most interesting that the GFX image was a bit sharper than the non-Bayer filter FF image! I'm considering going MF (using a FF Nikon Z System now) for landscape, product and macro photography, and was wondering if you had an opinion on whether the Fujinon GF lenses are as sharp or sharper than the equivalent Hasselblad XC lenses, particularly the 120 Macro? (Currently I use an IRIX 150 f/2.8 Macro lens on a Nikon Z8, which does yield ultra-sharp images, but since I'm printing rather large, hence my reason for considering a MF System.) Thank you!
We have not compared those lenses. That would be a good one to compare.
The Nikon is an excellent allround performer. For absolute image quality, the GFX produces results the Nikon cannot touch. However, I think that the Hasselblad X2D, with full 16 bit colour and incredible lenses, is the new benchmark for stills.
Yep, but X2D focus is so slow so I see no reason to have it for anything except landscapes. And it doesn’t have TS or any telephoto lenses. Very limited in use lovely camera :-)
I'd say at best, this is like comparing apples to oranges. The Z8 is purpose built for speed and high resolution, the Fuji is built for resolution primarily. For most people, the Z8 would be a more suitable, well-rounded camera for anything. I'd probably only say to get the GFX 100 series if you're doing landscape or commercial work or anything you know will be printed large for sure (that requires that many megapixels) but for most people, the Z8 will be plenty (after all, it's like 95% of Nikon's flagship camera in a smaller, cheaper body).
The ideal solution, if money is no object, is to have a Z8, maybe a Z6 III or Zf, and a GFX 100 to cover pretty much everything one could possibly need. But that would be an expensive setup when you add in lenses for both systems.
medium format is what you think of studio photography and maybe landscape, but they were usually way too expensive. Now they are more doable. Z8 is more of an overall photography camera and a lens selection to back it up.. got the Z8, but always thinking of MF in the future.
I haven't chose one over the other, I chose both. Granted, not everyone wants both, but I see them as tools for two different scenarios. The biggest issue going back and forth is that the bodies work opposite in may ways (lens mounting, switches, etc.) but I don't use both at the same time.
That is so nice that you have both systems!
I Have both cameras and once you shoot medium format you see the difference… for my work i hardly take my z8…I’m actually selling the z8, keep my 2x z6ii for weddings events etc… but for studio and outdoor shoots, GFX all the way… GFX100s with 100 f2 and 45 2.8 my killer combo
I cannot believe at this price point I would have to buy extra gear just to make it work. I'm not talking lenses or mem cards. I'm talking about having to buy an outboard screen so that I can use these cameras. Bad decisions by the manufacturer instantly disqualifies these cameras for me. I don't need to see other spec. I don't tolerate bad design or equipment that fights with me. I buy products that make my life easier and/or better. I would consider these cameras as prototypes, not ready to be placed in the market. Also, these cameras need a built in connector to attach pro gear through an add on module that I call a brick which would include 1 T mem. XLR connectors, extra battery and outboard power. The brick would cost extra but would connect to the camera directly without cords. These companies forget that buyers have the last "NO!" Good video. Keep up the good work.
The Z8 has multiple ports
The best video I've seen today. By the way, did you know that you wrote a program for Tornado NKN cameras specifically for us, ordinary users?
Did you mean, Nikon has a program...?
@@TheSlantedLens Yes, the program is called Tornado NKN, it is very convenient.
6:25 😅 you kinds just glazed over the fact that you can just remove the triangle key rings and you have a hard point just like the GFX 😅
That is another approach. Thanks for your comment!
Here we are comparing apples and oranges. One is a full frame camera on the other is a medium format camera they can't be compared. Well I guess they can. However for
Image. quality the GFX 100 should do much better. And the z8 will do very well as a full frame camera and the reviews show that.
But the one thing we need to compare that it's not compared in your review is the cost. the cost of these two cameras are very much different the z8 coming in at about 4,000 The GFX 100 coming in around $8,000 double the price.
However I enjoyed this review it brings up some very fine points that should be considered. For the money the z8 is the best deal however the Fuji is an extremely fine camera and if I can afford it I think I would buy one.
Great points, and cost is super important!
How about the new feature in Nikon that could raise image quality and final file size for large printing !!!!! Sorry, forgot what it's called ... have it on my Zf and Z8 !!!
For Fuji description doesn’t tell if you set focus priority over speed and what kind of eye priority was chosen. It changes a lot. Turning AF+MF off helps to exclude out of focus shots too. By default GFX doesn’t have the best settings for precise focusing. Also you compare top of the line Nikon 50/1.2 lens with old average 63/2.8, while 55/1.7 is the newest and most sharp lens for GFX. Not all GF lenses have the same focusing speed, LM lenses are faster, so there is no direct competitor for 50/1.2. For existing users this review doesn’t show anything new, and new users don’t know what’s going on behind the curtains. Dynamic range test is not correct to my eye and doesn’t show how much better 16-bits files are. It’s just an opinion, thanks for video. At the end have to say they both behind the old Canon R5 in terms of AF quality.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
I have z9 and gfx100ii. Z9 is at least 3 stop better at night with both 2.8 lens. For Fuji is f 4.0. And when I use gfx100ii is not reliable. It broke after one month I bought. I never have problems with my Nikon. I feel regret buying it
For auto focus. Nothing come close to Sony
@@frankl859 Not against my Nikon Plena !!!!!
I appreciate these comparisons because I'm in love with the idea of the GFX, but a Nikon Z8 or Sony A7rV would probably be smarter choice for me overall, budget and sanity wise.
Something you didn't touch on was lens availability. The Z8 has many more lenses available for it, including a wide range of zoom lenses, from a wide variety of manufacturers. With the Fujifilm camera, you're limited to the lenses made for it by Fuji. And those lenses are significantly more expensive than lenses for full frame cameras. Something to consider.
Different markets. For large scale print work the GFX wins. For portability (eg location based work involving distance) Nikon, Canon, Sony, Fuji X, Leica M / CL are all great. Many commercial photographers will use both systems for different tasks.
nikon z8 can record 8k raw 60fps internally
Good point. Thanks for your comment!
@@TheSlantedLensyou did not intentionally left that out.
I have both :) No Choice for me
Nice! You have some great cameras!
Hi, I’m shooting with Fujifilm gfx100s but it’s not good for all types of photography which I like (Portrait, Landscape, Still-life). It’s heavy and bulky with gf lenses to carry around, and slow for sports and wildlife if sometimes I like to experience it! But it seems Z8 is all in one camera. The only matter important to me is if I switch to Z8, with 14bit and 45mp, could I achieve the same high images quality (detailing, colour rendering, and deep dynamic range) by gfx100s with 16bit and 102mp? Thank you.
You will not match the image quality.
@@DBML1 what do you mean?!
@@mrz1342he means that you will not achieve the same “technical” image capture with the Nikon setup, since a lower bit-depth (14bit) is far fewer colors, and the smaller sensor and pixels of the Nikon mean less effective resolution and less color accuracy at the pixel level.
Aesthetically: on a computer monitor, other than color science and DOF, you might not see a big difference between Nikon and GFX files.
In print, and with a printer capable of handling 16bit files, you’ll most definitely see the strength of GFX over Nikon.
So, no - you ultimately cant “match” the image file aesthetics of a Nikon to a GFX. The GFX wins handily in almost every technical category, and will produce technically better images in the hands of someone capable and experienced.
But if all you do is pixel-peep, then the Nikon is enough.
@@DBML1 How about the new feature in Nikon that could raise image quality and final file size for large printing !!!!! Sorry, forgot what it's called ... have it on my Zf and Z8 !!!
This is an excellent review. If I needed to make one change it would have been to include the size and weight of comperable lenses; because a camera is nothing without its lenses, and lense selection (focal lengths and sizes) are important factors to influence a purchase decision.
Always enjoy a good slanted lens comparison video 👍 both our way out of my price range, but one can dream...
You and me both! Thanks for your comment!
Is it just me or does the shot of the eyes punched in look better on the Nikon? I can't tell if the white on the lower eyelid are artifacts or just specular highlights. The GFX looks sharper but doesn't look better imo.
Thanks for sharing your observations!
It's worth noting that the Fujinon 63mm lens is one of only two lenses (I think?) in the entire GFX line-up that use a stepping motor. Most of the others, including the 110/2 use linear motors. The autofocus on the stepping motor is slower and noisier than the other lenses. It's entirely possible that it wouldn't have had any impact on the hit rate in your photo mode autofocus test, but as GFX 100 lenses go, the 45/2.8 and 63/2.8 will be the weakest AF performers.
Also, in your list of codecs, you mentioned n-log for the Nikon, but didn't mention F-Log and F-Log 2 which are both supported by the Fuji.
Of course, you also glossed over (I think?) some of the negatives of the Fuji a bit in the feature comparisons - like despite that the GFX 100 II supports 8K recording, it has to go to 1:1 pixels for it which results in cropping down to a smaller image area than a FF sensor. This can actually be kind of handy, like if you want to shoot with Laowa Nanomorphs, but it's almost certainly not what people think of with a 44mm wide sensor. The highest resolution using the full sensor width is 5.8k and that's at 2.4:1.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
I had the Z8 but returned it and am buying the GFX 100 II. I found the four-way screen on the Z8 to be fiddly to flip out in vertical mode. Three’s no question that the Z8 has some amazing features and the AF is fantastic. It’s just not the camera for me.
So, you realized the screen was fiddly after you bought it? Theres a thing called try before you buy 😊
@@castieldiallo2945 Nikon doesn't have a Try and Buy program where I live and it's not something I found annoying until testing it out in actual shooting conditions (not in the store). Anyway, it's returned and all is good now. 🙂
@@doogieham youre telling me there were no display models. That is hard to believe.
@@castieldiallo2945 No, that's not what I stated at all. I tried it out in the store and it wasn't until I actually used in on a real shoot that I found the screen fiddly. And, actually I was lucky because the store can't keep the Z8's in stock and I just managed to have a quick feel of one before they shipped it out to a customer. Normally, they don't have enough inventory to keep a display model. That's just the reality of having a small store.
Thanks for sharing your experience!
Great comparison video, Jay! If I could offer a small bone to pick with you though, and coming from a full-time commercial photographer and filmmaker, the edginess of your music selection - for such a long video - is too bright and distracting, which not only doesn’t fit the context of the content, but gets really annoying after a while . . . And makes it tough to concentrate on your VO. Something more mellow, and with less edge or brightness, would really be a better fit in general - much less for longer vids like these. Otherwise everything else is on-point! ✌🏻
Thanks for your input! Keep on clickin!
😁 ending up with Z8 and GFX100s Systems, Flashes and Lenses. Now I have the problem to choose one from the other at specific situations 😁
That is a good problem to have!
Good , but no surprises here… a flagship large format camera has better image quality than a full frame camera. I doubt anyone is cross-shopping these two cameras.
Love my GFX100 II. So very good, provided it is used within its limitations.
I haven’t owned a Nikon since the Z7… something a bit too harsh about the image left me wanting… And that’s not to say it’s a bad image. It’s down to personal preference. I’ll be curious to see how the Red acquisition plays out. Interesting times. I recently picked up the Sony A9 III… it’s an amazing camera. The A9 III marks my return to the Sony fold.
Sounds like you have had a great journey through the different camera brands!
Nikon z8 is a amazing camera
Great to hear you love the camera!
Great cameras and as always comes down to use case. Z8 is nearly half the price, add to that the af system and choice in lenses is phenomenal but you can’t argue with the quality of GFX ❤
Isn’t it wonderful that we all have choices and no matter what you use you’re getting so much choice.
Totally agree. We have such great options!
An interesting comparison, thanks! Calling the iso test a draw was clearly wrong, just listening to your own words. The GFX was much better when overshooting 3 stops, but who would do that? The poor girl having to smile through the iso tests...
She actually said she had fun!
@@TheSlantedLens Good to hear, she does seem very positive.
I think the issue here is that you're looking at high quality on your cpu. The GFX is very out of focus in both stills af test and video test. I think stopping down the lens 2 stops would help it tremendously b/c that shallow depth of field is not helping it.
As for still detailed shots, the GFX tuns away with the double mp. However image quality imo goes to the Nikon. The pictures just look better. I think the GFX needs to be 50mp. I'd use the 100mp for shooting clothing, jewelry and tiny bugs. The Z8 I'd use it for portraiture, weddings, and everythings else.
8K 60fps internally 😅 but it seems you have like 50 comments telling you this is hilarious 😂
Don't let them get you down, you're with the hot model.
It's hard to tell looking through YT. But based on YT compression, I give the nod to the Nikon Z8.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and your preference!
To be honest with video, people are going for smaller cameras.The video you can get 4K 60 out of a small crop centre camera.Near you don't need a big camera to do video
It depends on what kind of video you are shooting. Totally agree for video that is for internet and social media.
Plastic vs Metal. GFX all day. Is a shame that you didn´t refered about the build quality, as it makes a huge difference, and also about the experience. The options to just have the electronic shutter, and making the body in plastic, were the 2 main deal breaker. It´s insane how a company like Nikon, charging 4k for a camera made of plastic, aside of the specs.
This Fuji camera is fairly and squarely aimed at more static photography including landscape. I think that for 99% of the needs of pro photogarphers, the Z8 or the Z9 will be more than adequate. As for the other 1% for whom money is no object, there is always the question of Fuji or going for the ultimate Phase-One? I know which one I'd choose.
And that is a crazy amount of money!
They are, I agree 100%. I think all digital cameras are just a rip off.@@TheSlantedLens
Phase-One in a Phase-One vs Fuji !!!!!!!
I want to like your video, but you have SOOOO much wrong information about the Nikon. All the videos can be recorded internally, even raw.
Not sure what point in the video you are talking about. We mention all of that after time stamp 13:30.
if you are gonna compare cameras. why dont you use same lenses at the same fstop and same distance from subject..help people see what the real differences of each camera...
Jay, please don't grow old. I love watching you😢
I appreciate that great compliment!
Comparing two cameras with different resolutions at 100% will be unfair to the higher res one as you are magnifying the image more.
That is the question. When viewed at 100%, how do they compare?
@@TheSlantedLens imo, when printed / displayed at the same size is the bigger question.
Fuji GFX 100 II ! But I will keep mine Sony A7RIV Cameras !!!
Thanks for sharing your preference!
I'm surprised how much Nikon color science has improved over the years, still not Canon or Fuji but really looking good, they are walking all over Sony in that regard and the ZF would be really tempting if I didn't have all Canon and Fuji glass.
A lot comes down to the individual whether you like a certain manufacturers colour science or not. I have always hated Canons colours, with the reddening of skin, whilst I found I could work around Nikons tones, much easier.
Really though, for me the apex of colour science is Hasselblad, which is on another level.
I agree it is all subjective , I should have thrown in "in my opinion" for sure@@MichaelLaing71
@@MichaelLaing71I fully agree. I really like the Nikon colours for landscapes and wildlife but prefer Canon colours for portraits.
Some great thoughts about color science. Thanks for sharing!
I still believe that Nikon has the better color and dynamic range that is why I have the Z8 and Zf !!!!! Aside from that an awesome array of lenses at less the price than Sony's or Canon's !!!!!!! When I think I need MF then I may look at Phase-One !!!!!
What's more surprising is how the nikon z glass is exceptional in optics
Nikon does have great glass!
How about the new feature in Nikon that could raise image quality and final file size for large printing !!!!! Sorry, forgot what it's called ... have it on my Zf and Z8 !!!
Nikon Best
Thank you for sharing your preference!
Nikons h265 10bit is not 422, read Nikon manual
Thanks for pointing that out.
Big kiss to Dianna!
Hope you learned some good stuff. Thanks for watching!
GFx much better fuji
Thanks for sharing your preference. It is a great camera!
Why are comparing two very different cameras with two very different use cases?
To see how they compare. We found it quite interesting.
Why are people adding the word “Point” after the word Price. In all my 68 years we never spoke like that. The word point is unnecessary. It brings nothing to the sentence.
Here is an answer I googled: "What is the difference between price and price point? Price is the actual amount of money given in exchange for a product/service. Price point, on the other hand, is a point on a scale of possible prices for a product."
@@TheSlantedLens Ok, thanks. But since all the possible prices are not mention I still posit that its a new silly term and not necessary. Same for Usage 'Case"
Z8 does every video codec internally
Thanks for sharing that info.
This is not what I am looking for. I am more to photography...
Might as well compare a coconut to a grape!
I get 1300 shots per battery given how I use the camera.
Good to know. Thanks for sharing that info!
Don't know why you were named "Jay" P Morgan.
Definitely copied from JP Morgan, otherwise known as John Pierpont Morgan.
Ask my parents. Thanks for watching!
I'm not sure what these camera companies are doing now. I don't like the image quality coming from any of these new cameras.
The best image quality I've seen, from digital cameras are the Nikon D200, Df, and D3s, Leica M10, M10r, Q, and SL, Hasselblad H4D 40mp, H5D 50mp, and H6D 100mp, PhaseOne IQ2 60mp, IQ3 100mp, and IQ4 100mp, Samsung NX500, and Canon 5D
I think the minimum pixel pitch for high quality APS-C and Full Frame sensors is above 6 microns. I think for full size medium format like the H6D is over 4 microns. The Samsung NX500 seems to be the only camera with a small sensor that is just stupidly gorgeous with 3.61 microns. But that makes me believe the other companies are holding back.
Thanks for sharing you experience!
who likes bananas and who likes pineapple?! Now compare Leica M6 with Nikon Z9, so we know for sure your comparison is childish
They’re just having fun bro. Relax.
they are having fun misleading others@@MichaelAres and im not gen z moron to call me bro
We find it an interesting thing to compare. And the tests were surprising in some cases.
I don’t have either the M6 or Z9, but do find the Z8 adequate for my work….not to say I wouldn’t love to test either the GFX100 ll or the X2D!😊
I USED Z9, every time i tried to recover shadows i saw the sensor lines in them, nobody talks about it, but is there, fine lines crossing each other@@stevetqp9152 , for me the ebst nikon sensor ever made was Nikon d810