Thanks for being here! I know its probably frustrating to not see gameplay for the top 3 Leaders, but at the very least I'll be able to get some when the season resets 😅
Agreed, I was very vocal about that not being the case since they said they were doing soft launch in specific regions over a year ago. Unfortunately nothing ever changed 😕. Thanks for being here though, I appreciate you 😁
Thanks for sharing! I've been struggling with which talent to go with for Prowler, they all seem super solid. I would have figured that an 30% extra damage for beasts would slot in well in a Murloc deck but I guess after watching this I'll go with Stealth. His other talent double damage on enemies over 75% health also seems really good.
They are all super solid! The extra beast damage talent is REALLY good, but in pvp its all about gold control and doing bits of chip damage to the base, so its not entirely needed. It's still fantastic though! Thanks for watching 😁
The stealth one means he might pass huntress in the night. Obviously you can give her a quick chain lightning to ensure that he hits but now you're spending 5g to kill her. With Predatory Instincts he will draw her attack and due to his charge hit her basically at the instant she hits him but he'll win the 1 v 1 due to more damage (faster attack speed) and higher HP. Also, the stealth slows your minis down slightly, (I'm not exactly sure how much but doesn't seem like a lot) which could make him get to chests a little slower which rarely might lead to you losing it. Now there's lots of obvious benefits of stealth too, like slipping past flying units or delaying the attack animation of whatever he's fighting (if ranged). If you look at decks of the top players on GG you'll see it's a pretty even split between Predatory Instincts and On the Prowl. I would say that both are S tier talents.
@drakewilliams6069 I think it's better in PVE where there's more predictability. But it would work well at low ELO pvp, at least vs the xbow towers. I pushed to 1750 with Murkeye talentless and I would put prowler in front of 1 group and warsong raider in front of the other. They consistently lived to the tower so they would've definitely benefitted from 30% more damage. At high ELO I think it is still ok but you're not likely to have effective 11g pushes like you do at low ELO. I'd probably send the prowler group on the right side so they don't get split up.
Ill be doing my best to work on something like this, but check out Bulava gaming. He showcases how to clear heroic maps with even level units and no talents, they are pretty solid guides! Thanks for watching 😁
Now it's a bit slow to wait 3-4 days every time to buy things, but when the new season starts we will have an impressive refill of golds with the low ranks pvp progression. Unfortunately after 3000 points you must be a whale to progress pvp because the level counts. As f2p the season target is 9000, you can't go throug that.
If I recall correctly you had raptors in A tier I understand not that great with dragon towers but what list were you running them in with the previous tower?
I would use them with Grommash or Murkeye. They kind of play the same role as prowler in murkeye, but in Grommash they can be used to create big swarms of bloodlusted units. Thanks for watching!
Some people keep track of them but after quite a while of playing pvp you kind of just get a feel for things. Whether it’s an inner timer or just how your cycle of cards feels you kind of start getting the spawns within 1-2 seconds if not right on.
Yeah, there is a feel for it, but sometimes that feel can be off. Its just 40 seconds after the chest is claimed. So its a bit of math, but its not too bad, and then its just being aware of the timer. Thanks for watching! 😁
Was really excited about pvp and pushing this week until I immediately ran into the whales at 3k rating without the card level cap. Really killed my hype for pvp considering I have to play against people with an extra month head start. What to do?
Each leader is its own honor and it takes your top 3. Try and get 3 leaders to 3k for optimal pvp rewards, and then after that it's honestly just hoping not to queue into people with similar level minis. I wish they kept a level cap past 3k, but they don't unfortunately 😕 Thanks for watching, hope pvp gets better soon 😁
Just really need to pay attention to when they get taken. 40 seconds from when they are claimed, they will respawn. It's kind of strange to keep track of the time, but its an important skill to have if you want to stay on top of gold chests. Thanks for watching 😁
How did you get your units to level 25+? Just grindind lots of quests and PvP matches? Regarding the Jaina deck- why is drake the focus? Regarding Tirion- Why use divine shield with footman? Isn't the point of divine shield to tank with Tirion for something else? If you use footmen, they're doing the tanking, and if you play them with Tirion wouldn't by the light be better as it will have more value? Cool video, also looking forward to the Thalanos video!
Awesome questions! Been playing for months and just daily rewards/grinding pvp mostly. Drake is the focus in jaina because he does great aoe damage, while clogging up the board with whelps eggs. He also doesn't die to safe pilot right away, so you have a chance to react with a holy nova. By clogging up the board you get better gold control. Tirion I run divine shield because his main focus is healing footmen, and without him the footmen get much weaker. His healing talent heals more, but he's much squishier without divine shield. A safe pilot with stealth talent is generally enough to kill him when combined with cheap spells like chain lightning or other aoe units. So it's mainly just to keep him alive, so that he will keep healing footmen. Thanks for watching! 😁
@@Minimanlow1 I wouldn't have thought of combining Jaina with an AoE unit, since running Jaina means you also run AoE spells. I'll try that. Thanks for making videos and replying (:
Attempt to maintain as much control over the middle gold chests as possible eventually get enough gold advantage to contest the mines and overwhelm them. You need to play VERY well, but it's possible to win. Thanks for watching 😁
I'm sorry friend. Try and watch some of my other videos to get info on units you can use to help progress a little faster. Thanks for watching, and let me know if you need any help 😁
Great video! Are you worried about the state of the game with higher ELO's taking up to an hour? Seems like something should be done for queues to not be so bad above 3k.
Yes, but hoping it gets figured out soon. Before global, all the top players could play each other, so while it was bad, it wasnt the worst thing in the world. When global happened, for whatever reason, it looks like they decided to region lock people, so now its very difficult to find a game. Thanks for watching!
I didn't realize it was region locked. It seems like it would be easy enough to just undo that. I feel like something has to be done about this issue.@@Minimanlow1
Buncha cry babies that don't play the game. If you played enough you would see that each heroic mission is 500g and roughly 3.3k exp. 5 missions per zone = 1500g and roughly 17k ish exp. That's how u level up ur toons. Damn babies
@@stoickes huntress you can counter with prowler, but in baron I find that if you can distract her with a quilboar or a safe pilot just before a gryphon/baron/Necro get to her, then they will kill her without much trouble. Chain lightning is a very solid counter to whelp eggs, as it will kill the eggs and the whelps in 1 cast. Though gryphon rider will also take them out if left unattended. Thanks for watching 😁
@@stoickes that's a super good idea, may make a video on that. It may just be a this meta mini counters that meta mini though 😂 not a ton of diversity at the moment.
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I forgot to mention in the video, thanks to Fieldsy for making the Jaina deck, Hes currently ranked number 3, and hes a fantastic player!
Let’s gooo! I’ve been watching all your videos. The algorithm has me.
Thanks for being here! I know its probably frustrating to not see gameplay for the top 3 Leaders, but at the very least I'll be able to get some when the season resets 😅
Good tips, I'll be waiting on that Thalnos deck video you mentioned.
Tomorrow! Be on the lookout 👀 Thanks for watching!
Awesome video! great to see top pvp players make content!
Thanks for watching! Hoping to make more soon 😁
Appreciate the help bro, your videos are great.. super frustrating that we play on the same server as people that are over a month ahead
Agreed, I was very vocal about that not being the case since they said they were doing soft launch in specific regions over a year ago. Unfortunately nothing ever changed 😕. Thanks for being here though, I appreciate you 😁
Great video. Thanks for the help.
Thanks for being here! 😁
Thanks for sharing! I've been struggling with which talent to go with for Prowler, they all seem super solid. I would have figured that an 30% extra damage for beasts would slot in well in a Murloc deck but I guess after watching this I'll go with Stealth. His other talent double damage on enemies over 75% health also seems really good.
They are all super solid! The extra beast damage talent is REALLY good, but in pvp its all about gold control and doing bits of chip damage to the base, so its not entirely needed. It's still fantastic though! Thanks for watching 😁
The stealth one means he might pass huntress in the night. Obviously you can give her a quick chain lightning to ensure that he hits but now you're spending 5g to kill her. With Predatory Instincts he will draw her attack and due to his charge hit her basically at the instant she hits him but he'll win the 1 v 1 due to more damage (faster attack speed) and higher HP. Also, the stealth slows your minis down slightly, (I'm not exactly sure how much but doesn't seem like a lot) which could make him get to chests a little slower which rarely might lead to you losing it.
Now there's lots of obvious benefits of stealth too, like slipping past flying units or delaying the attack animation of whatever he's fighting (if ranged).
If you look at decks of the top players on GG you'll see it's a pretty even split between Predatory Instincts and On the Prowl. I would say that both are S tier talents.
Absolutely agree, they are both VERY good talents. Depends on what's popular for which one is better would be my guess. Thanks for watching! @@ian59
@@ian59 Would you happen to have any thoughts on the talent Pack Leader? Is it S tier also or not so much?
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I think it's better in PVE where there's more predictability.
But it would work well at low ELO pvp, at least vs the xbow towers. I pushed to 1750 with Murkeye talentless and I would put prowler in front of 1 group and warsong raider in front of the other. They consistently lived to the tower so they would've definitely benefitted from 30% more damage.
At high ELO I think it is still ok but you're not likely to have effective 11g pushes like you do at low ELO.
I'd probably send the prowler group on the right side so they don't get split up.
Thanks for the good content ! A question though, do you know if there is any way to see the ladder and where most people stand
Haven't explored the warcraftrumble.gg website a ton, but they do have a leader board. Not sure how far back it goes though. Thanks for watching!
Love the video.
Would you make heroic clear playing video with some tricks?
Ill be doing my best to work on something like this, but check out Bulava gaming. He showcases how to clear heroic maps with even level units and no talents, they are pretty solid guides! Thanks for watching 😁
@TheArclightBattery very cool of you to promote other content creators!
Hes a fantastic creator, lots of good information on his channel 😁@@parisulki729
As a f2p person i agree. Not really p2w to have fun or prog
Now it's a bit slow to wait 3-4 days every time to buy things, but when the new season starts we will have an impressive refill of golds with the low ranks pvp progression. Unfortunately after 3000 points you must be a whale to progress pvp because the level counts. As f2p the season target is 9000, you can't go throug that.
@@EpicDio oh no. That seems rough. I am newish too so that may be why my experience is a little better
3k as f2p is easy im about 7k as f2p 10k as f2p would be rough. Talents are required. I'd say 50$ is the most you'd ever have to spend on this game.
@@Zombgetsu i mean 3k for a single team
f2p has a honor cap and thats very p2w and pathetic if someone of less skill or brain can win on higher lvl minis or more talents
If I recall correctly you had raptors in A tier I understand not that great with dragon towers but what list were you running them in with the previous tower?
I would use them with Grommash or Murkeye. They kind of play the same role as prowler in murkeye, but in Grommash they can be used to create big swarms of bloodlusted units. Thanks for watching!
Great stuff.
Thank you!
How are you keeping track of the chest spawns? Are you looking at the timer whenever you open them to keep track of the next spawns?
Some people keep track of them but after quite a while of playing pvp you kind of just get a feel for things. Whether it’s an inner timer or just how your cycle of cards feels you kind of start getting the spawns within 1-2 seconds if not right on.
Yeah, there is a feel for it, but sometimes that feel can be off. Its just 40 seconds after the chest is claimed. So its a bit of math, but its not too bad, and then its just being aware of the timer. Thanks for watching! 😁
Was really excited about pvp and pushing this week until I immediately ran into the whales at 3k rating without the card level cap. Really killed my hype for pvp considering I have to play against people with an extra month head start. What to do?
Each leader is its own honor and it takes your top 3. Try and get 3 leaders to 3k for optimal pvp rewards, and then after that it's honestly just hoping not to queue into people with similar level minis. I wish they kept a level cap past 3k, but they don't unfortunately 😕 Thanks for watching, hope pvp gets better soon 😁
Can you show your hogger build and how would you play him vs this towers?
He's very rough for these towers to be honest. I'll have a video on him soon though! Thanks for watching 😁
Any tips for timing the chests so well?
Just really need to pay attention to when they get taken. 40 seconds from when they are claimed, they will respawn. It's kind of strange to keep track of the time, but its an important skill to have if you want to stay on top of gold chests. Thanks for watching 😁
How did you get your units to level 25+? Just grindind lots of quests and PvP matches?
Regarding the Jaina deck- why is drake the focus?
Regarding Tirion- Why use divine shield with footman? Isn't the point of divine shield to tank with Tirion for something else? If you use footmen, they're doing the tanking, and if you play them with Tirion wouldn't by the light be better as it will have more value?
Cool video, also looking forward to the Thalanos video!
Awesome questions! Been playing for months and just daily rewards/grinding pvp mostly. Drake is the focus in jaina because he does great aoe damage, while clogging up the board with whelps eggs. He also doesn't die to safe pilot right away, so you have a chance to react with a holy nova. By clogging up the board you get better gold control. Tirion I run divine shield because his main focus is healing footmen, and without him the footmen get much weaker. His healing talent heals more, but he's much squishier without divine shield. A safe pilot with stealth talent is generally enough to kill him when combined with cheap spells like chain lightning or other aoe units. So it's mainly just to keep him alive, so that he will keep healing footmen. Thanks for watching! 😁
@@Minimanlow1 I wouldn't have thought of combining Jaina with an AoE unit, since running Jaina means you also run AoE spells. I'll try that. Thanks for making videos and replying (:
No problem! Thanks for watching 😁@@TheGreenburger
@@Minimanlow1 Can you tell me how arcane power talent works? Does it change the spell to have only 2 casts, that cost 3 and 4?
@@TheGreenburger exactly that!
Hi great content! How do we get dragons breath spell?
Thanks! You get the deep breath spell from killing onyxia. Thanks for watching!
What do you do against Baron decks with the Murloc deck?
Attempt to maintain as much control over the middle gold chests as possible eventually get enough gold advantage to contest the mines and overwhelm them. You need to play VERY well, but it's possible to win. Thanks for watching 😁
I have like 8 stars total across everything... Been playing since release
I'm sorry friend. Try and watch some of my other videos to get info on units you can use to help progress a little faster. Thanks for watching, and let me know if you need any help 😁
Great video! Are you worried about the state of the game with higher ELO's taking up to an hour? Seems like something should be done for queues to not be so bad above 3k.
Yes, but hoping it gets figured out soon. Before global, all the top players could play each other, so while it was bad, it wasnt the worst thing in the world. When global happened, for whatever reason, it looks like they decided to region lock people, so now its very difficult to find a game. Thanks for watching!
I didn't realize it was region locked. It seems like it would be easy enough to just undo that. I feel like something has to be done about this issue.@@Minimanlow1
@@alecbrown5461 totally agree, hopefully the devs get on it soon.
How to get dragon towers ?😢
Dragon towers are default on pvp maps. All players have them. 😁 Thanks for watching!
My best pay to win deck.
Thanks for watching 😁
being 8k silver without talents is pain, 80% of players playing this full speced paytowin baron with mages, pathetic
It's not p2w, it's called do the heroics and get 1500g and 17k exp per zone. Good grief. Play the game and you'll find out
Pay to win game, where is the point to teach something like this. Just pump $$$ and eazy win
Thanks for watching!
Buncha cry babies that don't play the game. If you played enough you would see that each heroic mission is 500g and roughly 3.3k exp. 5 missions per zone = 1500g and roughly 17k ish exp. That's how u level up ur toons. Damn babies
Please play the baron deck at high level for us.. I'm doing something wrong 😅
Trying very hard, but I can't find a match. Hoping by the end of the week I'll have enough time to sit down for an hour and find a match 😂
How do you deal with huntress and whelp eggs with your baron deck. Struggling to efficiently kill those two
@@stoickes huntress you can counter with prowler, but in baron I find that if you can distract her with a quilboar or a safe pilot just before a gryphon/baron/Necro get to her, then they will kill her without much trouble. Chain lightning is a very solid counter to whelp eggs, as it will kill the eggs and the whelps in 1 cast. Though gryphon rider will also take them out if left unattended. Thanks for watching 😁
@@Minimanlow1 thank you for the detailed reply! Super helpful!
A video I haven’t seen is a “how to counter the top meta minis”
@@stoickes that's a super good idea, may make a video on that. It may just be a this meta mini counters that meta mini though 😂 not a ton of diversity at the moment.