I might have had a nerdgasm with this spreadsheet!! Great comparison video, I already invested alot into JJ speciality so being runestone poor is a deciding factor for me. The spreadsheet made me feel confident with this decision thanks
My first u tube comment. I’m old, retired and not good with technology. I have several of the top 6 wall, and on day 32, grew Leo III to top of the server (K1199) to counter my archer threat, the biggest guy on our server. I have him beat at Monarch level 32, almost 33. His counter is C-35, while I’m under development inside the wall at C34. Question, as the sever later migrates to ground, who is the best general to counter the threat? I’m actually a new player, however I sort of made Envoy my job. I have been playing about 31-32 days. I have Robert the Bruce, Leo III, Zach Taylor, (Queen Boudica not mentioned in video) and Prince Eugene who I think is not relevant in this discussion, however also wondering how he stacks up with my Martinus (primary) and back up Roland (with lots of frags) over Hanible (because I’m thinking long term, hope I can develop him). This being my first comment from a google account I really don’t use (I still use AOL), not sure how I will even see the reply. Sorry I’m such an antique, and hope things are going well with the baby. UP….. server 1099
So forever archer will almost always be the top threat..it never really transitions to ground...ground becomes either the finishing shot after archers whipe out horse...or used in specialty scenarios...keep leo 3..you only need one wall gen...and many believe hes the best
Dome on 1096, I like the Leonidas as the main with Petronas as my assistant. The combo has worked quite well. I'm working on meat layers, I'm using 10 million T1 troops all tiers, cavalry I'm building for 40 million and T5 seiges for 10 million. Does this sound about right? It's been working very well for our battlefields. I appreciate the videos man!
Those "fresh" Generals are powerful to put it mildly. I agree with you in using what a player owns. This game is about spending things wisely and knowing when to move on to another aspect. I have chatted with Allies about this, they own decent Generals...shoit I just got attacked by someone from my own Server. Lag issues again. Man that hurts. Going to take me a long time to recover from that one. Have to think of something fruitful to message to them. They believe that zeroing out unbubbled players limits the points opponents earn. Never mind that neither of us got any points either.
Great videos... I have Leonidas and I went with range range and seige range and ground troop speed. What do you think? I am of course thinking about redoing it and swapping speed for Cav HP... Undecided I am still building k33 and I run a lot of Rallies but slowly getting my defense layers built since the server has finally calmed down @Gaming Addicts With Genghis
I think those are good books, I have Horse Hp, siege attack, ground speed, but I keep switching back and forth between HP and archer bonus..the problem with archer bonus is my archers are all dead from attacking in battlefield
I'm using tran as of now I'm k31 I have him set up with the wonder 1 dragon siege machine range bonus siege machine attack and ground troop speed. I have him fully cultivated over the 500 cap 504 defense 505 attack but he's only level 30 cause that's my monarch lvl at the moment. Also dragon equipment he's like 2.8 mill power
Hey Genghis! It's a killing event tomorrow but I don't have a wall general ready. My Joseph Johnston has no gear, no levels and probably no life. I was wondering if there a way I can still participate in the KE? Like a clever trick with the ghosting mechanic (but I'm unsure of how to stop them from insta attacking me after watching my archer or ground army march back in the walls)?
@@gamingaddictswithgenghis it does not, so would that mean james on my wall will let me do higher tier bosses with his 15% mounted damage as defense general or no?
Pretty wild that I have JJ, Taylor AND Leo on me now. If this is correct, my wall should be in fairly good cover. Now all I have to do is get everyone set up. I'm curious...if I have incomplete sets of the new armors that are being offered (that require 50 pieces and all) would it be wise to try and pull a mix and match?
thank you again for this video ! so i have JJ at maximum but now i use Tran Dao for siege in the meantime I will take Leo 3 ,! .my question is in order to balance the base stats of the tran I am increasing my monarch gear specific on siege to 10 .. do you think this is a good idea? ..second question : you previously made a video about your attack on enemy 4.4b with Tran dao as wall gen and had no deaths or injuries, do you think siege are strong for defense or do you always think better ground? or even better to balance siege and ground?thank for your time is you can answer ,MAX from italy 😎
Hey Genghis I appreciate you explaining this i was wondering if you know how to calculate the buff percentage from the state for example, if a general has a total of 1100 attack stats what the buff will be also, can you share this excel sheet that has the wall general comparison thanks
@@gamingaddictswithgenghis that's true for the original stat but once you cultivate this will not be the case I believe from what I checked on my cultivation generals
@@BadStoryDan thanks Dan that's fantastic I was so confused about how these were calculated may i asked how did you figure this out and again thank you for your reply
I can't find you to add you in game...I have some questions about how to take down a bil+ player...everyone is afraid to try but I know it can be done...will you tell me how to add you in game pls
hey i choose leonidas as a main and marshal as a assistant . is it okay? and want to ask what skill book put on them with what troop support??? really confused pls help....
Heres a golden question. When sending out an attack march does the assist generals special buff work if it says when leading the army or march? I assume if he’s not leading only his books will work if they don’t match the leader of the rally? Please advise with great detail backed by facts so I can let my alliance know. Thank you.
You mention joining your discord but there is no link in the video description or on your page in the about tab. when you can please post a link to your discord
Hi Genghis. Great video, love your channel. I revisited this video today in light of the new assistant general feature. I have LeoIII as primary defense gen with maxed specialties. My options for assistant gen are Johnston or Leonidas. In your opinion is it better to double down on range/siege buffs and use Johnston or go with Leonidas for ground buffs to have a more versatile defense? I do plan to max the specialties on the assistant gen given enough time. Thanks for any insight you can provide and for taking a moment to answer. I'm sure you get tons of questions every day. The burden of fame... LOL
most people like leo / marshall .. i wouldnt focus much on ground..as tbh...when people are attacking your ground..generaly all your other troops are dead and ground just dies to a cav rally...
@@gamingaddictswithgenghis I have 29 fragments and been waiting forever to get my first JJ Dewey. He will arrive any day now. But just now, I received Leo III and now I don't know which one to focus on so I came to watch this video. That's where I notice I have had Robert the Bruce for months but didn't realise he was any good as my alliance told me he was rubbish!
I have JJ lv 28 seige machine range bonus, range troops range bonus , seige machine attack. JJ is my main wall general Just now get leonidas . Should i put as assistance general if yes then what skill book to use on him
Hi Ghenghis, I have question, today in SVS I attacked enemy with subs and won the battle, he lost 48m power and I 2m, but one of my sub general died, only one(I have 9 subs). have it happened to you ? do you know reason?
I also have a question about ban chou I have him he's an Archer tower gen is it worth putting skill books on him and gear since his main skill goes toward archer tower attack and all the additional bonuses from a archer tower officer come from cultivation. So is it worth putting gear and skill books on him
Maybe you could talk about players taking siege bonus off and allowing them in closer range with archers. i have had more success with siege killing more range this way. but i am not sure how it goes up against t11. maybe better for people on c3+ where t11 siege rallies arent as common
Just a question regarding wall general. I use Zachary as my wall general right now, and I'm just wondering if it's OK for me to use Koryo Bracers + Boots combination. It doesn't seems to be beneficial given Zachary seemed to be more ranged focused, but what's your thought on this one? Sorry if this is a silly question, new player here.
@@gamingaddictswithgenghis Thanks. Just one more question - for the bracer, is it better to give Siege ATK % over Ranged ATK %, or is it subjective? My Zachary is already using Achaemenid bow
Hi genghis I’m on new server I got leonadias I got lucky server is only month old I have only made about 200k ground mount range and siege - tier 13/12 …. But I’m thinking long term I also have made the kuryo bracer no one else has bothered with I also have scipo and Simeon but I have no idea how build defence general or how to build defence army but still be able to attack I’m k33 tech is only 5.6m
One of the most frustrating things about Evony is the lack of availability of the very best ground and ranged generals without spending lots of money. They give away the best cavalry generals in the relics and now the Tavern, and we can get most of the best seige generals from Dawn of Civilization, tavern, etc... but they don't give non-paid gameplay access to Scipio, Elise, Guan Yu, Simeon or Alfred. So unless you spend heavily, you are at a disadvantage.
Elektra is pretty rad and she is obtainable for free from relics. But I agree with ground generals, even though Trajan obtainable from tavern isn't bad either.
@@WoozworldackyCz My consideration is for the long term... that is, who we invest runestones in as a "final" general for that troop type. Elektra is good, but would be replaced by Simeon or Alfred if we get either. Even if it is very difficult, there should be a way to get Simeon or Alfred through non-paid gameplay... OR add similarly strong generals to the game, and make at least one obtainable for "free".
@@Dijone_1 But the difference is not as big and Elektra has a lot of HP. If you get Elektra and invest in her, she'll be worthed it. The same can't be said between Trajan and the ground generals. The difference is so big between them.
@@gamingaddictswithgenghis Understood guys, and thanks for the advice. However, since I do not spend much, isn't it better to wait until I get Simeon or Alfred somehow eventually, since runestones are so hard to come by? What will I do with a maxed Elektra if I eventually get Simeon or Alfred?
@@gamingaddictswithgenghis I’m not sure what the issue is. I don’t see it. In the description it shows likes views, they date it was uploaded, gaming category for this video and even a button for a transcript. But nothing for discord. I’m using my iPhone. I’ll try on my computer later to see if that gives additional options.
For fuck sakes... Wrote a HUGE reply... Debunked and concluded that Leo III is the best wall general of them all and he does not get the recognition he should.
@@kahokulani50 LOL - I think that would be counterintuitive to the point of going Leo III. Either Range or Siege Attack, then both Range and Siege Range bonus best. Use gear / refines for anything further. But, I've seen in big keep vs big keep the player who ghosted his mounts (or, majority thereof) won the power battles. So, I don't feel anything bonus to mount (built into the general, like Marshall has) is very good. Now, you might say that is just one example, well, the other example end game battles are majority Range and Siege attack and best to counter with Siege and Range. IMO and this is the way I choose.
If this is a "top 6" why are you discussing the useless ones? Waste of time, either get to the point, or don't post. I'm not here for entertainment. Useful information only please. Bye.
I might have had a nerdgasm with this spreadsheet!! Great comparison video, I already invested alot into JJ speciality so being runestone poor is a deciding factor for me. The spreadsheet made me feel confident with this decision thanks
My first u tube comment. I’m old, retired and not good with technology. I have several of the top 6 wall, and on day 32, grew Leo III to top of the server (K1199) to counter my archer threat, the biggest guy on our server. I have him beat at Monarch level 32, almost 33. His counter is C-35, while I’m under development inside the wall at C34. Question, as the sever later migrates to ground, who is the best general to counter the threat? I’m actually a new player, however I sort of made Envoy my job. I have been playing about 31-32 days. I have Robert the Bruce, Leo III, Zach Taylor, (Queen Boudica not mentioned in video) and Prince Eugene who I think is not relevant in this discussion, however also wondering how he stacks up with my Martinus (primary) and back up Roland (with lots of frags) over Hanible (because I’m thinking long term, hope I can develop him). This being my first comment from a google account I really don’t use (I still use AOL), not sure how I will even see the reply. Sorry I’m such an antique, and hope things are going well with the baby. UP….. server 1099
So forever archer will almost always be the top threat..it never really transitions to ground...ground becomes either the finishing shot after archers whipe out horse...or used in specialty scenarios...keep leo 3..you only need one wall gen...and many believe hes the best
Dome on 1096, I like the Leonidas as the main with Petronas as my assistant. The combo has worked quite well. I'm working on meat layers, I'm using 10 million T1 troops all tiers, cavalry I'm building for 40 million and T5 seiges for 10 million. Does this sound about right? It's been working very well for our battlefields. I appreciate the videos man!
Those "fresh" Generals are powerful to put it mildly. I agree with you in using what a player owns. This game is about spending things wisely and knowing when to move on to another aspect. I have chatted with Allies about this, they own decent Generals...shoit I just got attacked by someone from my own Server. Lag issues again. Man that hurts. Going to take me a long time to recover from that one. Have to think of something fruitful to message to them. They believe that zeroing out unbubbled players limits the points opponents earn. Never mind that neither of us got any points either.
Hey 👋🏻 of topic question. Do you know if it’s a change in Evony that it’s no longer possible to send friend request or mail across servers ?
Great videos... I have Leonidas and I went with range range and seige range and ground troop speed.
What do you think? I am of course thinking about redoing it and swapping speed for Cav HP... Undecided I am still building k33 and I run a lot of Rallies but slowly getting my defense layers built since the server has finally calmed down @Gaming Addicts With Genghis
I think those are good books, I have Horse Hp, siege attack, ground speed, but I keep switching back and forth between HP and archer bonus..the problem with archer bonus is my archers are all dead from attacking in battlefield
I have Leonidas too what books again because you got your words doubled so I was confused?
What books?
Which of these wall generals would be best to save for assistant general duty
Taylor would be great as he has a straight one skill buff
I'm using tran as of now I'm k31 I have him set up with the wonder 1 dragon siege machine range bonus siege machine attack and ground troop speed. I have him fully cultivated over the 500 cap 504 defense 505 attack but he's only level 30 cause that's my monarch lvl at the moment. Also dragon equipment he's like 2.8 mill power
I did same... but I also refined Thebes for ground defense.
You nees to make new video on this subject
Hey Genghis!
It's a killing event tomorrow but I don't have a wall general ready. My Joseph Johnston has no gear, no levels and probably no life.
I was wondering if there a way I can still participate in the KE? Like a clever trick with the ghosting mechanic (but I'm unsure of how to stop them from insta attacking me after watching my archer or ground army march back in the walls)?
attack
do you happen to know if james bowies mounted troop buff as wall general count towards marching troops or just in city?
if it says incity..only in city
@@gamingaddictswithgenghis it does not, so would that mean james on my wall will let me do higher tier bosses with his 15% mounted damage as defense general or no?
I am investing in Zachary Taylor, and was thinking what should I do with ground general I have Robert Bruce I thought he is useless. Thank you
I d have Grant on the wall right now wondering why he is not on your list? Thanks :-)
Ulysses Grant? Hes a siege general
@@gamingaddictswithgenghis Is not siege the best for defense? I usually keep siege in the city. When do you attack with siege?
Pretty wild that I have JJ, Taylor AND Leo on me now. If this is correct, my wall should be in fairly good cover. Now all I have to do is get everyone set up. I'm curious...if I have incomplete sets of the new armors that are being offered (that require 50 pieces and all) would it be wise to try and pull a mix and match?
thank you again for this video ! so i have JJ at maximum but now i use Tran Dao for siege in the meantime I will take Leo 3 ,! .my question is
in order to balance the base stats of the tran I am increasing my monarch gear specific on siege to 10 .. do you think this is a good idea? ..second question : you previously made a video about your attack on enemy 4.4b with Tran dao as wall gen and had no deaths or injuries, do you think siege are strong for defense or do you always think better ground? or even better to balance siege and ground?thank for your time is you can answer ,MAX from italy 😎
Hey Genghis
I appreciate you explaining this i was wondering if you know how to calculate the buff percentage from the state
for example, if a general has a total of 1100 attack stats what the buff will be
also, can you share this excel sheet that has the wall general comparison
thanks
Click on cultivate your general and you will see the math...I believe 1% = .1 so 10% =1%
@@gamingaddictswithgenghis that's true for the original stat but once you cultivate this will not be the case I believe from what I checked on my cultivation generals
@@sadeqaljizani791 over 900 it's 20% so for values above 900 take 20% of it and minus 90.
@@BadStoryDan thanks Dan that's fantastic I was so confused about how these were calculated
may i asked how did you figure this out
and again thank you for your reply
@@sadeqaljizani791 Just did the math on a bunch of generals at various levels.
I may have plotted it in excel 🙃
I can't find you to add you in game...I have some questions about how to take down a bil+ player...everyone is afraid to try but I know it can be done...will you tell me how to add you in game pls
hey i choose leonidas as a main and marshal as a assistant . is it okay? and want to ask what skill book put on them with what troop support??? really confused pls help....
It depends on your troops. Refines wtc
Heres a golden question. When sending out an attack march does the assist generals special buff work if it says when leading the army or march? I assume if he’s not leading only his books will work if they don’t match the leader of the rally? Please advise with great detail backed by facts so I can let my alliance know. Thank you.
yes
What do you all think about the new wall general oda oichi a ground based wall gen
nothing different than we already have
Can i use a wall general in a temple or in the Constantinople building, and they still work as if they was on your wall?
no...
You mention joining your discord but there is no link in the video description or on your page in the about tab. when you can please post a link to your discord
added to description
Ghengis Arabia has shajar Al durr. She's my main non pvp wall general
oh yes thats right..shes not a serious option tho
Hi Genghis. Great video, love your channel. I revisited this video today in light of the new assistant general feature. I have LeoIII as primary defense gen with maxed specialties. My options for assistant gen are Johnston or Leonidas. In your opinion is it better to double down on range/siege buffs and use Johnston or go with Leonidas for ground buffs to have a more versatile defense? I do plan to max the specialties on the assistant gen given enough time. Thanks for any insight you can provide and for taking a moment to answer. I'm sure you get tons of questions every day. The burden of fame... LOL
most people like leo / marshall .. i wouldnt focus much on ground..as tbh...when people are attacking your ground..generaly all your other troops are dead and ground just dies to a cav rally...
@@gamingaddictswithgenghis I have 29 fragments and been waiting forever to get my first JJ Dewey. He will arrive any day now. But just now, I received Leo III and now I don't know which one to focus on so I came to watch this video. That's where I notice I have had Robert the Bruce for months but didn't realise he was any good as my alliance told me he was rubbish!
Good time to do the top generals since they adding more.
I have JJ lv 28 seige machine range bonus, range troops range bonus , seige machine attack. JJ is my main wall general
Just now get leonidas . Should i put as assistance general if yes then what skill book to use on him
Depends on your troops
@@gamingaddictswithgenghis I have more ground troops and and ranged troops. Usually hit with ranged troops. Should I put assistance general leo
how can i send you a spread sheet gengis?
genghis136@gmail.com
I sent you the spread sheets. Thought you’d find them interesting and useful. I’d value your opinion on the wall general skill books though.
If you have a moment please
i like kiet as a backup for when i have no troops in my city.
My favorite video is always the next one.
i don’t see Joseph Johnston
I have Leonidas and Robert with should I got with?
leo
@@gamingaddictswithgenghis any suggestions on books?
Thank you again 🤗❤️
Hi Ghenghis, I have question, today in SVS I attacked enemy with subs and won the battle, he lost 48m power and I 2m, but one of my sub general died, only one(I have 9 subs). have it happened to you ? do you know reason?
too many factors to analyze amount of troops in each sub to begin w..the sub gen per city, enemy troops that are same level as your subs etc
Sub troops get killed and hit 0 sub gen dies
Hi Genghis. Where is your discord link?
Ill put it in next video description
@@gamingaddictswithgenghis Ok. Thank you.
Evony was fun back in 2008
was amazing from like 06-10
@@gamingaddictswithgenghis didn't exist in 2006, it was called civony before it released
I also have a question about ban chou I have him he's an Archer tower gen is it worth putting skill books on him and gear since his main skill goes toward archer tower attack and all the additional bonuses from a archer tower officer come from cultivation. So is it worth putting gear and skill books on him
no books
Is George Dewey and JJ same
yes
Maybe you could talk about players taking siege bonus off and allowing them in closer range with archers. i have had more success with siege killing more range this way. but i am not sure how it goes up against t11. maybe better for people on c3+ where t11 siege rallies arent as common
Yeah, I have heard of this..I think there is way more risk than reward however..you have to know exactly whats coming at you and quickly
Hi . I would be interested in joining your discord group. Could you please share
its in the description to all vids..go to most recent upload
Kiet for sub 29 keeps. You can win a power exchange with bigger keeps
Here I was thinking I finally had a good wall general. I recently got Kiet at Keep 30.
@@IamEnygma im k28, he makes bigher players stub thier toe. Specialist for ghosting
I currently have all 6 of the top Wall gens in the game
ya I got 3? holding hoping for more info on assistant gens
Yeah same here
How do we find your discord channel?
Ill put it in the next video
Have you ever covered Tran? he's the only one for free to play players,
Yes I have..hes a solid general for sure...but JJ is free in fragments and better
@@gamingaddictswithgenghis I’ve gotta wait so long 😭😭 but I wasn’t planning on putting specialty on tran anyway so no biggie.
What's the discord link?
J. J always best like he still best in all
Just a question regarding wall general. I use Zachary as my wall general right now, and I'm just wondering if it's OK for me to use Koryo Bracers + Boots combination.
It doesn't seems to be beneficial given Zachary seemed to be more ranged focused, but what's your thought on this one?
Sorry if this is a silly question, new player here.
Yes they are a must...even if hes archer focused he will have siege in the city with him
@@gamingaddictswithgenghis Thanks. Just one more question - for the bracer, is it better to give Siege ATK % over Ranged ATK %, or is it subjective? My Zachary is already using Achaemenid bow
Hi genghis I’m on new server I got leonadias I got lucky server is only month old I have only made about 200k ground mount range and siege - tier 13/12 …. But I’m thinking long term I also have made the kuryo bracer no one else has bothered with I also have scipo and Simeon but I have no idea how build defence general or how to build defence army but still be able to attack I’m k33 tech is only 5.6m
koryo for the wall
Yes but what army should I focus on ground siege range ?
Lion heart is good for reinforcing
ya he has a purpose...bubble up..defensive reins
Do the daily quests for the extra fragments. You WILL get JJ eventually.
yup
One of the most frustrating things about Evony is the lack of availability of the very best ground and ranged generals without spending lots of money. They give away the best cavalry generals in the relics and now the Tavern, and we can get most of the best seige generals from Dawn of Civilization, tavern, etc... but they don't give non-paid gameplay access to Scipio, Elise, Guan Yu, Simeon or Alfred. So unless you spend heavily, you are at a disadvantage.
Elektra is pretty rad and she is obtainable for free from relics. But I agree with ground generals, even though Trajan obtainable from tavern isn't bad either.
@@WoozworldackyCz My consideration is for the long term... that is, who we invest runestones in as a "final" general for that troop type. Elektra is good, but would be replaced by Simeon or Alfred if we get either. Even if it is very difficult, there should be a way to get Simeon or Alfred through non-paid gameplay... OR add similarly strong generals to the game, and make at least one obtainable for "free".
@@Dijone_1 But the difference is not as big and Elektra has a lot of HP. If you get Elektra and invest in her, she'll be worthed it. The same can't be said between Trajan and the ground generals. The difference is so big between them.
Elektra is awesome...if you got her..invest in her...
@@gamingaddictswithgenghis Understood guys, and thanks for the advice. However, since I do not spend much, isn't it better to wait until I get Simeon or Alfred somehow eventually, since runestones are so hard to come by? What will I do with a maxed Elektra if I eventually get Simeon or Alfred?
Bro I want your discord link
Discord?
Its in the video description
@@gamingaddictswithgenghis I’m not sure what the issue is. I don’t see it. In the description it shows likes views, they date it was uploaded, gaming category for this video and even a button for a transcript. But nothing for discord. I’m using my iPhone. I’ll try on my computer later to see if that gives additional options.
Genghis server is getting smacked by the rally god this weekend in SVS 👀
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For fuck sakes... Wrote a HUGE reply... Debunked and concluded that Leo III is the best wall general of them all and he does not get the recognition he should.
Leo is definitely good...they all have their pros and cons...
@@gamingaddictswithgenghis Agreed. I just found weighing the scales that Leo III offers best stats and best end game buffs over any of the others.
I'm thinking Leo III with mounted HP skill book will be a good option.
@@kahokulani50 LOL - I think that would be counterintuitive to the point of going Leo III. Either Range or Siege Attack, then both Range and Siege Range bonus best. Use gear / refines for anything further. But, I've seen in big keep vs big keep the player who ghosted his mounts (or, majority thereof) won the power battles. So, I don't feel anything bonus to mount (built into the general, like Marshall has) is very good. Now, you might say that is just one example, well, the other example end game battles are majority Range and Siege attack and best to counter with Siege and Range. IMO and this is the way I choose.
I'm server 714 gamertag is ESB420
A very confusing game
He can't even read from the spread sheet correctly. Listen n look on mounted HP SMH 🤦🤦🤦
Huh?
Do yourself a big favor n don't completely listen to this guy! Super misinformed on a lot of stuff. He needs to figure out evony math
If this is a "top 6" why are you discussing the useless ones? Waste of time, either get to the point, or don't post. I'm not here for entertainment. Useful information only please. Bye.
Some people dont have access to the top generals because they cost money