As an addict its your choice to listen or not listen to someone. The real question is Do you want to get clean? If you really want to move in a different direction AND you're tired of staying on the empty, hopeless road you're on THEN you'll listen to someone who is a professional in helping people change directions. AND you'll also learn to share what's going on with you that makes you want to numb yourself. Its your choices that will determine what you do. Be kind to yourself.
You can relate to and learn from all kinds of people, not just necessarily addicts. Been a patient in and worked in plenty of treatment centers and seen the clients exhibit these attitudes as a way to discredit, disregard, or undermine the care they're being provided. That counselors not an addict? Oh I can't relate. That counselor is an addict but doesn't have the same DOC as me? Oh, I can't relate. Someone who is truly fed up and wants to get better will take whatever help, care, and advice they can get. No one does this perfectly in recovery, we all have our bad days, but identifying it as the poison it is goes a long way.
Best counsellor I ever had wasnt an ex self medicator drug and alcohol worker. I had complete trust in this gay nurse for over 10 years intermmitently, but not much trust in the drs or staff holding the sole underlying religious goal they have in their individual stories of proudly being clean and sober. Its as though theres a right to critisize clients in vulnerable positions as a right of being a clean and sober person. Fuck that shit (personally i add). I am healthy and record free with no money owed or stolen in my life so I guess I did OK in 45 years of IV opiates (8 clean stretch in there so yeah I know NA and all that) I get that if you have the goal of cessation that they share as the only option. being off your meds by wise choice due to it costing more than money and affecting others . Ive had far more trauma inflicted on my life by peoplpe who thought they knew me based on the way they think, and no clue who i am.
As an addict its your choice to listen or not listen to someone.
The real question is Do you want to get clean?
If you really want to move in a different direction AND you're tired of staying on the empty, hopeless road you're on
THEN
you'll listen to someone who is a professional in helping people change directions.
AND you'll also learn to share what's going on with you that makes you want to numb yourself.
Its your choices that will determine what you do.
Be kind to yourself.
You can relate to and learn from all kinds of people, not just necessarily addicts. Been a patient in and worked in plenty of treatment centers and seen the clients exhibit these attitudes as a way to discredit, disregard, or undermine the care they're being provided. That counselors not an addict? Oh I can't relate. That counselor is an addict but doesn't have the same DOC as me? Oh, I can't relate. Someone who is truly fed up and wants to get better will take whatever help, care, and advice they can get. No one does this perfectly in recovery, we all have our bad days, but identifying it as the poison it is goes a long way.
There is those that manage people, those that lead people, and there is those that create leaders.
amen
Sounds like he just wanted to talk smack about fat guy.
Is dude trying to flex about being a hardcore addict?
Best counsellor I ever had wasnt an ex self medicator drug and alcohol worker. I had complete trust in this gay nurse for over 10 years intermmitently, but not much trust in the drs or staff holding the sole underlying religious goal they have in their individual stories of proudly being clean and sober. Its as though theres a right to critisize clients in vulnerable positions as a right of being a clean and sober person. Fuck that shit (personally i add). I am healthy and record free with no money owed or stolen in my life so I guess I did OK in 45 years of IV opiates (8 clean stretch in there so yeah I know NA and all that) I get that if you have the goal of cessation that they share as the only option. being off your meds by wise choice due to it costing more than money and affecting others .
Ive had far more trauma inflicted on my life by peoplpe who thought they knew me based on the way they think, and no clue who i am.
Nit true.
Ive met other addicts i coyld not relate to ar all.
Ans non addicts whos soul i could cinnect with.