Is a Big 12 & ACC Merger the ANSWER to the SEC & Big 10?
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- Опубликовано: 7 фев 2025
- In this episode, Couz is joined by @knumbskullnews3460 to discuss the idea of a merger between the ACC & Big 12 Conferences. They will talk about what this merger would look like as far as how it would be organized. They will also talk about why Florida State and Clemson would be excluded & why UConn would be a valuable addition to such a conference. They will also take a look and discuss how it would work, where does Notre Dame fit into the equation, how it would be financed and more. #conferencerealignment #big12football #accfootball
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Thank you for including UConn!
3 pod games, 1-2 protected rivalry games, 4 game rotating schedule of 1 pod per year, 1-2 random conference games, and 2 non-con games. Sounds like a good set up to me. Works for basketball too. home and home with your pod, 1 game each against your nearest regional pod each year, 2 rotating pods each year, and 2 random games
Big 12 & ACC should give GREAT CONSIDERATION to this.
This is intruiging. I'd like to get a read on the super league potential first, but if it's not to be, then I'm in. I have to admit that I like the concept. I'd like to see more details about scheduling. Whatever it would be, it would be better for us than going to Lubbuck and beyond. Nice idea overall. I hope Yormark is looking into it.
1 problem is that if you merge then when there are college football changes that require a vote of conference commissioners, you would only have 1 vote instead of 2 votes with the conferences being separate.
That’s an argument I forgot to bring up actually.
Absolutely…join together or die alone…..all the other schools in ACC better get together….because…..North Carolina, Notre Dame, Clemson, and FSU will decide your future. Does that make you comfortable?? Notre Dame won’t join you, Clemson and FSU want out, and North Carolina would go if they would take NCSt. with them (but not wanted by either) .
You need to go to 40 teams to help cover the West….and fill in with some openings and local rivalries! Two divisions of 20 with 8 pods of 5………4 pods in the West and 4 in the East….and have your own Playoffs, rules, and bowls. All equal pay and rotating pod competition changing possible to help unify the League! An AFL league no longer playing the Cartel ESPN /SEC/B10….with own rules for NIL and transfer!
Pitt needs to be in the app pod instead of Virginia. You can tell this guest isn’t a mountaineer fan or a big east fan.
Like couz said even Louisville would be better
He’s from Texas.
Iowa-ISU I believe is protected, & a better name for mid is central.
Central is better
Somebody wake up the ACC teams, after FSU and Clemson leave, the ACC will start to implode and in that scenario, the Big 12 will NOT take all of the remaining teams. So if those teams want to stay in the party, they should push for this.
I love both of your shows. You guys are great together. But remember they can change the rules.
@@bobswanger7623 thanks for the kind words. Who is they? SEC and Bog 10?
@@CouzsCornerSports Yes that is what I meant. Should have explained myself better.
I wouldn’t mind this because WVU would have Pitt basically every year and it would mean even more as a conference game and other rivalry’s like VT and Virginia not to mention LV, Syracuse and Boston College.
I'm a Big 10 guy, and like the idea of a ACC/Big 12 merger, as well as the pod set up. I love college football and would like to see a strong third conference counter balance the Big and SEC. I'd hope you could also hold on to FSU and Clemson.
Love the Appalachian pod!!!
This is the absolute best situation to be had. This is how it is done. Thanks Knubskull News.
Yes
Old Rivals:
Arizona State - Utah ( old Pac 12 )
Colorado - Kansas State ( old Big Eight schools )
Texas Tech - Baylor ( old SWC and Big 12 schools )
Kansas - Duke ( hate each other in Bball, let's get FB going )
Ok State - TCU ( Big 12 South )
Houston - UCF ( old American schools )
Pitt - WVU ( best buddies )
Va Tech - Louisville ( also best buddies )
NC State - Miami ( ACC )
Virginia - UNC ( ACC )
Wake Forest - Ga Tech ( ACC private schools )
Maybe Rivals ???
Iowa State - Cincinnati
Arizona - BYU
Somebody-Has-To-Play-Them Rivals
Stanford - Boston College
UCONN - SMU
Syracuse - Cal
Well done. Some of these I had not thought of.
UCF and Houston could play for the space trophy. imagine a trophy with a meteorite on it 🌠
Looks great on paper. But will the ACC and Big 12 agree to this?
And, if there is no longer an ACC; why take schools like Wake Forest, BC, or UConn if you don’t have to. Maybe pick up the best 8 remaining.
@@TheOtherGygax I personally don’t see the leagues both agreeing to this, but it would be epic. Great point about the bottom teams, but that may be determined by the “money people.”
Don't see the ACC agreeing to this. I think they feel their above doing that. It would be a epic basketball conference
What are the 16 best teams? Would that match up with either conference?
For pride purposes you just come up with a new name for the conference.
Please merge! You need to stay strong. ESPN and all of their money is ruining college sports!
Who gives money to groomer Disney/ESPN? I'll tell you who; it's mostly college football fans. They pay that cable bill every month and a big share goes to groomer Disney. They can't stop. They're no different than an addict. Until they stop, don't expect changes.
I take you never watch any sporting event on ESPN?
I agree
@@romanmoroniewhat is a cfb fan supposed to do tho if they don’t pay the cable bill they can’t watch
The other thing I'd like to see is equal revenue sharing for regular season conference money so that all teams have the same opportunity at the start of a season. BUT each team gets to keep what they make in any post season Bowl Game, CFP, NCAA tournament, etc so as to encourage success
I like that.
@@CouzsCornerSports
I like to think that America is all about
1) Equal opportunity at the start
2) Reward for success in the end
But I'm a dreamer. 🙂
The "Pod" idea works AS LONG AS you rotate which Pods are joined together when it comes to forming divisions each year.
Otherwise, you end up with the Big 12 North vs Big 12 South schism that divides the conference.
With rotating Pods, there is a connection, over time, with each school and each other school.
Year 1 and 2: ( home and away )
Division 1 : Pod1 + Pod2 + Pod3 + Pod4
Division 2 : Pod5 + Pod6 + Pod7 + Pod8
Year 3 and 4: ( home and away )
Division 1 : Pod1 + Pod6 + Pod7 + Pod4
Division 2 : Pod5 + Pod2 + Pod3 + Pod8
Year 5 and 6: ( home and away )
Division 1 : Pod1 + Pod6 + Pod3 + Pod8
Division 2 : Pod5 + Pod2 + Pod7 + Pod4
Year 7 and 8: ( home and away )
Division 1 : Pod1 + Pod2 + Pod7 + Pod8
Division 2 : Pod5 + Pod6 + Pod3 + Pod4
@@tomdean9381 interesting idea.
@@CouzsCornerSports
I'm posting one more comment to this video where I flesh this rotating idea out better.
I agree but I would add Clemson,Florida state,Notre Dame,mountain west and pac12,then the big east.i think the networks would pay for it and also add streaming and more networks
Man, that’s a lot of teams.
The semi-short answer to this is yes. The best short-term solution for the majority of schools, currently in the ACC and Big 12, is for a new conference to emerge out of the two of them. East and West divisions (around 20 schools total), w/some in football, men's basketball, and baseball, while some have just one, two, or three--based upon athletic department revenue, who fully funds revenue sharing, has NIL collective support, and who the TV networks want.
This may lead to 🏈 being: (East) - CLEM, MIA, FSU, L'Ville, VT, pitt, WVU, UNC, NCST, GT or SYR or leave a spot open for ND to join (West) - OKST, SMU, TTU, UTAH, BYU, ASU, ISU, KSU, TCU, COLO ... for example
🏀 being: (East) - Duke, UNC, L'Ville, UVA, pitt, SYR, NCST, MIA, WVU, Cincy (West) - AZ, BAY, HOU, ISU, KU, KSU, TTU, BYU, STAN, OKST
But, there are 4 key issues:
1) If you're anyone not on that list above, you're not willingly signing up for relegation. So, there's 50% less support.
2) The TV networks, namely ESPN, would have to renegotiate a deal w/the new conference, blowing up the ones already in place.
3) Is Jim Phillips losing his job or is Brett Yormark? What happens to the staff at the ACC and Big 12? Their headquarters?
4) The ACC and many of its schools have such inflated, self-righteous opinions of themselves that they won't want to join forces with the Big 12. Ideologically, they are closer to that of the Big 10... and I would argue the Big 12 is closer to that of the SEC. Remember, it was the ACC that wanted "The Alliance" with the Big 10 and Pac-12 during COVID. We, as West Virginia fans, know this is the case when the ACC told WVU no back in 2011.
So, it's a tough call, because I think we'll be talking about a super league anyway in 2030-31, when Fox's deal with the Big Ten concludes. I know ESPN's with the SEC goes another 2-3 years, but we saw how TEX and OU got out of their deals with the Big 12. So, do you "blow everything up" for a 4-5 year "solution" or just wait it out as is when there's a new formation of Division 1? And does that process get expedited over the House settlement and/or gender-based proportional revenue sharing based upon Title IX?
@@Carson-Fox great stuff. I think we addressed some of these questions in the video.
Not having FSU and Clemson makes it a nonstarter for Mia.
That’s fair
Put Virginia in the Northeast pod to replace Pitt. pitt goes to the App pod to replace Virginia. move VT to the southern Pod to replace Louisville. Move Louisville to the App pod to replace VT.
I don’t hate it, but would prefer VT in the same pod as WVU.
I only like this if this new conference is split into 2 divisions with the W,M,M&T pods one division and A,C,N&S pods the other division. For 1- that stops the excessive travel. 2-That sets up your championship game nicely & 3- allow for 1 pod to play a mix from other pods in your division keeping the WVU/Pitt rivalry playing every year.
This new conference would make for a really nice coast to coast & all time slots fb & bb conference.
This set up plays well not only for the teams, but also for TV & private equity.
Also, if FSU & Clemson dont goto SEC or B10 then the conference is even better & you can tell ND to get fully in or stay out. No reason to let ND "use" this conference like its using the ACC & used the big east.
Only way I'd let ND " use" the conference is by making them play at minimum 8 games in the conference each season in FB with Bb & all other sport actually part of the conference. But you dont need ND at this point if this happens & unless you can get most of their FB games played in conference having them don't help you much , espically since theyre all about themselves & no one else.
@@StanleyMetzJr
If the conference is in 2 Divisions (ie throw out the Pods and put 16 in one division and 16 in the other), then
a) We're not really merging, it's just 2 conferences (teams redistributed) with a scheduling agreement. And even if those 2 shared resources (Commissioner, media negotiations, etc), that would still create a schism where one side is consistently bringing in more money than the other (the idea of creating 2 divisions grouped by geography and they just happen to be equally balanced in brand value is unrealistic) which would lead us back to the old Big 12 North-South split that just about killed the conference
b) That would do away with games that would interest TV viewers from multiple regional interest which reduces the conference's TV value
Okay, here's what I've got ...
The one thing that concerns me about all of these teams in regional Pods is that this very well could lead to a schism in the conference the way the Big 12 North and South fell apart, which is part of the reason that the conference almost died.
So to avoid that:
1) Create 4 conference divisions using a combination of Pods that rotate each year:
Year 1 Division 1 = Pod 1 + Pod 2
Year 2 Division 1 = Pod 1 + Pod 3
Year 2 Division 1 = Pod 1 + Pod 4
etc throughout all Pods and Divisions over the course of 7 years.
The result is that everyone is in the same Division as everyone else at least once during these 7 years.
2) After those 7 years, every team has played every other team at least once. Now, repeat that rotation, but flip home and away games.
3) Every team plays 7 Division games + 1 Rival game ( against teams outside that year's given Division) + a 9th game (see below ).
4) The 9th Conference game of the season goes like this for the #1 team in each Division,
those teams would play each other (seeding based on CFP ranking 1vs4, 2vs3).
5) The "Conference Championship" would be between the winners of those 2 games.
6) Meanwhile, the 9th Conference game for all of the other teams would go like this: The highest ranked team that's not #1, plays a home game against the lowest ranked team (among those not in their Division). The next highest ranked team that's not #1, plays a home the next lowest ranked team (among those not in their Division). Etc throughout the conference. The result being that the top half plays a home game the bottom half.
And this last 9th conference game would not be that hard to make early arrangements for since 2 or 3 weeks before this game would take place, the large majority of teams would know if they're somewhere in top half (i.e. we need to prepare to host refs, concessions, parking, hotels, etc) and of if they're somewhere in the bottom half (i.e. we need to prepare for team travel).
Well thought out plan Tom
@@CouzsCornerSports
Sounds good!
Call Brett Yormark and Jim Phillips to tell them! 🤓
The problem is the Big 12 and ACC are worth approximately the same. Putting them together doesn't yield more money unless you cut out the bottom.
And these huge conferences yield less KU vs Duke/UNC/UConn basketball games, not more. It's even more dilutive on the football side. You can designate the top teams as inter-pod rivals but, at some point, it ceases to be fair to the top teams that have to play more top teams.
32 only works if we play more games against each other. How do you name a champ? You almost have to have tourney at the end in football. I think the basketball conf schedule has to increase, as well, for the reasons stated above.
I get the power dynamic, though. An alliance isn't a trusted relationship. And negotiating together could help both conferences.
Interesting conversation. Also, what about ND? Would PE prefer a merge? Would ESPN? If ESPN hates it, that might be the exact reason to do it.
Good comment.
Hey @CouzCorner ... have this guy on more!
Whether he's right or not, time will tell.
But he's well spoken, has thought through what he's saying, fair minded, and isn't a braggart ( like some SEC content creators have been ).
Thanks Tom. Go check out his channel and sub him up (though I’m sure you already have).
@@CouzsCornerSportsthis video I think is a total dream that will never happen or at least if it did I don’t think it would be organized this way. But your point on Louisville being there instead of Virginia, makes total sense. It’s far better based on the history of four teams in that pod. It would also be better if Pitt was in the app pod instead of va or even Va tech.
@@CouzsCornerSportsI also just subbed after watching last couple weeks. Keep it up this is the best place on RUclips for WVU content
How about this? Because THIS is actually happening.
West Virginia, Virginia Tech, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, Boston College - every year
Miami, Louisville, Georgia Tech, NC State, Wake Forest - every year
SMU, TCU, Oklahoma St, Kansas St, Iowa St - every year
Stanford, Cal, Arizona St, Utah, Colorado - every year
That is 20 schools.
Still going to have a scheduling agreement with Notre Dame and have them in every other Sport.
That is 21 schools.
Say GOOD BYE to Houston, Cincinnati, BYU, UCF, Baylor, Tech... they can go to the PAC with Memphis, Tulane, USF and UConn.
North Carolina, Duke, Virginia, Clemson, FloriDUH State and Kansas, Arizona the SEC and B1G are going to snap them up.
It is happening? That would be great but I’m not getting my hopes up.
@@CouzsCornerSports I'm not going to promise those 20 exactly. But something much like that.
Play the 4 other teams in your "Pod" every year. ROTATE to play all 5 teams in each other Pod in a year for 9 games.
Basically a 2 Division Set up... But you rotate the pod that is in your Division. Play everybody not in your Pod 2 times every 6 years.
If more teams go somewhere else. Memphis is the first choice. USF probably second choice, maybe BSU 3rd choice to replace teams. i know i'm forgetting someone.
UNLV? Tulane?
I like the merger, but to many schools. I like Uconn, + 7 schools make more sense. 32 is too many. 24 schools is a better fit, East & West division 12/12 model. 10 conference games, 6 division games. 4 cross-over games (2 home at home) 2 on the road & 2 at home & so on and so on every 2 years. New matches up every 2 years. It will recycle itself every 12 years. Creates better matches up for TV partners. Not to mention you would have ESPN, TNT & TBS, Fox, as well as, CBS for basketball. That could create a huge payout for a new look Big12 with all of those schools & all of those networks. It could be interesting. It could make for a good show topic in the future with a guest host.
Interesting idea.
I was thinking as much P4 content as possible
Couz, in basketball and each other sport, other than football, they can do home & home games within pods to illuminate travel cost.
Agreed
It's an interesting idea. Nothing to lose. Might be the only solution ultimately.
Texas Tech belongs in the Texas pod. They already have rivalries with the teams in the Texas pod.
Who do you take out?
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I agree that UNC no longer ( nor Virginia nor Duke ) has an open invitation:
a) Even though Blue Blood basketball is an exception to the "football drives the bus" rule within the Big 12 or ACC, it's not enough of an exception to bring in as much as a school would take out of the Big Ten or SEC.
b) College basketball is down in popularity. There used to be "Must See" games throughout the season. And the Final Four was on CBS and was a huge deal. Now, it was on TBS last year and the Women's Final Four ( no offense to anyone ) got more viewers.
c) The Big Ten and SEC have had multiple shots at Kansas and always passed. Kansas might not have North Carolina population or academic prestige, but they're both Blue Bloods and AAU members and if one can't get in even after begging for years, the other doesn't have an open invitation.
d) If UNC had an open invitation, then why are they spending Millions of additional dollars trying to beef up their football program ( as is Kansas ). They know that Blue Blood basketball is Really Nice, but it's not enough anymore. It's a tie-breaker now. Good Football + Blue Blood basketball vs Good Football, the former gets in.
Great comment. Although, based on what Flugaur and others have reported, UNC has been wanted by both the B1G and SEC because they want in the state of NC.
Also, for some reason this comment just appeared nine days later. RUclips🤷♂️
play 8 or 9 conference games. leave thanksgiving weekend open and have the top 4 teams play each other to get to the 2 that will play for the 12/acc conference championship. obviosity the other 28 teams will play on thanksgiving weekend too. just schedule the week before.
I like the outside of the box thinking.
The PAC pod. Bring it on.
I would agree that a merger of the top brands in the ACC/B12 would be able to compete with the P2. A full merger would still result in Top ACC and B12 brands open to leaving for a P2 conference and would devalue the merger. You would have to hold on to UNC FSU Kansas and Clemson to stay relevant.
UNC has made it known about getting into the SEC and FSU &CLEMSON will get calls from P2 once they're free of legal issues.And VA TECH and Virginia have P2 eyes on them.
@ I think BIG is going to have to change their plans given the challenges they are dealing with the west coast schools. They will probably go after Stanford, Colorado instead of ACC schools. The SEC will get their pick. UNC, UVA, Clemson and FSU
I hope Notre Dame stays independent!
The Big 12 and the ACC have met together and with PE. Maybe they do a PE deal together in tiers to keep the top teams happy, then they merge in 2031. Is that why they are working on a deal in the ACC to shorten the GOR? The ACC would have to sign an agreement so ESPN still gets the TV rights.
Definitely a possibility, but I don’t see the merger happening. Although I’d like it.
What would be the merged conference name? Big 32? BigACC? ACCC -American Coast to Coast Conference?
We didn’t get that deep, but pick one. Lol
Mayhem conference presented by Allstate
@@CouzsCornerSports Big Athletic Coast to Coast Conference BigACC.
@@Mr.Ed_Wayner
1) Big-Old Big-Ass Conference
2) Pacific To Atlantic Conference
3) Fly From Over And To Conference
How do we determine a Conference Championship???? Will we have a 4 team playoff , before the CFP
We obviously did not discuss that part, but I’d do a playoff where the winner of each pod plays a conference playoff. It would take three weeks to do so though.
It's a great idea, but if they completely broke away from the rest and started their own different league in all sports, it would hurt the Big 2.
It would require the G5 to do it too. That would remove the easy home games for the P2.
Heck with that id love to see Big east get a tv deal an add a bunch of teams that ACC stole yesrs ago including WV..
Looks good but I say Southeast pod with Carolina and southern, Northeast with app and northeast, Midwest with Texas and mid, and West with West and mountain, that's seven conference games and throw I've it two cross country games
A merge can only work with the top 8 in the Big 12 and 8 in the ACC 16 teams
West & Mountain could be West Region. Middle & Texas could be Midwest Region. Northeast & Appalachian could be East Region. And Carolina & Southern could be South Region. Same 4 regions that they have for March Madness.
Whose the 4th team in the Mountain division?
It was BYU, Utah, Colorado and Texas Tech
Call me a little crazy but this plan or one similar to it could In my opinion put some pressure on the big boys.
It'll never happen because It makes too much sense.
Big 12 & ACC better merge before the sharks EAT THEM UP. Time is running out for "national" football to survive.
I don’t think they need to merge but they need to create a partnership with the ACC and also all the G5/6 schools. If all the conferences outside the P2 band together then they can fight against them. Also fans of any team that is not in the P2 need to stop watching games from those 2 conferences. Show the media partners that college football doesn’t revolve around those conferences, that there is other teams that are important to college football.
I think UNC, NCSt (NCSt Back Pack), Miami and Virginia will be probably be in P2 by 2031.
Another point is just play a 12 game conference schedule. Forget G-5 teams let them form their own playoffs
Seems like the SEC is coming after FSU and UNC …. I have the perfect name for the coast!
A great opportunity to kick out Wake Forest and replace them with Memphis.
Merge the top eight teams of each conference
C'mon knumbskull! Basketball needs 4 Tiers so the best battle the best & so on.
@@gregnelson1330 There is enough room for everyone to play everyone
Personally I think it would be fun conference - but no way media partners will pay for all these teams (its a pipe dream)
Accretive Value- FSU, Clem, GT, UM, UL, UNC
Neutral Value (maybe) - VT, Pitt, Cus, NCS
Dilutive Value- Stan, Cal, WF, BC, SMU
BBall Value only - Duke, UV, Uconn,
@@cjon3006
Other than UCONN, media partners are already paying for these teams. It's just that ACC is "ESPN" while the Big 12 is "ESPN+Fox". So it's not a money issue, it's a "which media partner gets which game" issue and that can be negotiated between them. No mew money needed.
@@tomdean9381 could also use as leverage for next TV deal and get streamers into the mix.
Syracuse vs West Virginia
I always hated the Cuse
@dimedraweriv258 what team u like
WVU. Hated Syracuse since the personal foul call against WVU in 1987
@dimedraweriv258 now it would be nice to renew that series
While I like considering the possibility of an an ACC-BigXII merger, I do NOT like the idea of consigning Florida State and clemson to Independent status. Neither of those schools want to leave the ACC, and neither one will be invited to join the SEC or B1G. What FSU and Clemson want is more money. PERIOD. Also, sticking Louisville in with Miami? You say that you had a map? The Louisville that has a University is in Kentucky, not Colorado, or Georgia.
Hard to fit everyone in the perfect pod.
I just want a 2025 sechudle
@@Christian-fn6yu doesn’t it normally come out about this time?
Well I want the top 25 and also the teams that are going to be in the college playoffs already. lol
@@CouzsCornerSports what your thoughts on your team Buffalo Bills losing to Kansas City Chiefs in the playoffs again.
They're just needs to be two mega conferences and then college football will be the minor league of the NFL
No, but I would like to see a scheduling alliance
That would probably be a good solution as well.
What happens to the pods if Fla and Clemson stayed?
That would make it difficult because the numbers would be uneven, but for me, I’d just have a couple of pods with five teams.
FSU would bail at the first chance. They won’t stay in a conference with UCF
@ maybe not, but if that’s their only option they may swallow their pride.
@@CouzsCornerSports possibly, I know the SEC isn’t targeting them. They are looking to UNC and UVA. If BIG doesn’t make a move then yea, they would be stuck.
@@adamb6370I remember the whole reason FSU got upset was because they said UCF was going to end up making more than them. As a UCF grad, I just want them to start winning, and maybe we get some more money from the tourist development tax like the 90 million we got two years ago.
Remember pac 12 still has power status once they get it to eight teams
They’ve actually already had it taken away I believe.
Makes sense, but the NCAA will never allow it. Too much of a threat to the sec and big 10.
The NCAA has no say in college football anymore. They can set their own rules.
Acc big 12 meger would get 75 million a team and u add in FSU Clemson your close to 85 million over four or five tv partners
Man, I would say move Cincinnati to the northeast pod, drop UConn, and add Memphis to the App pod just because I think Memphis is a better football program than UConn.
I don’t hate it.
The alignments are stupid. Greed has ruined football
From two horrible conferences to one horrible conference 😂
I agree we merge!!
Couz, this post just enter my feed. Been saying this for a while, but called negative and was trolled by acc fans how stupid the idea was. I posted several times only to be told to get lost. Not gonna happen. Acc hates wvu and the big 12. Just read the posts and comments from acc fans.
@@Joe-sm9qj I know the ACC hates most of the Big 12. That’s the main reason I don’t see this ever happening.
Use PE for naming rights to the PODS.
I like that idea.
Oooohh yeah
This is the end form 4 conferences.. the group of 5 will get showed aside those who want 2 play up better find a home In the p4 quickly as it's coming
I think that ship has already sailed with Oregon State and Washington State being left out.
@noelramirez1551 acc or big 12 might consider them eventually as some other group of 5 will be pulled as well..
@@CCOS1214 IDK the only one I see worth taking is Memphis and they've been constantly overlooked during realignment so idk why other G5 teams would now be moved up and split the pie even more.
@noelramirez1551 depends boise, memphis, unlv, the pac 2, usf possibly..
@@CCOS1214 Boise is just in a terrible market. Memphis is a better market, and they have that FedEx money. UNLV could be a target if they keep improving and are constantly in the playoff hunt or a top 25 team every other year, and adding USF depends on what happens to Miami and FSU; if both leave, then yeah, so we can get the War on I-4 rivalry game back.
The guy with the hat on is just a hater!! It's a known thing that the SEC and B1G want UNC. Both these guys know that the B12 is a garbage conference and that's why they keep trying to come up with these "make-shift" scenarios. These two guys are B12 guys, and they want to see their conference survive, but this kind of wishful thinking is simply a pipe dream. UNC is my team, and we can do a helluva lot better than the B12, we belong in the SEC or B1G!!!!
And comments like this are why nobody likes the ACC.
This is probably the worst opinion I've heard on a ACC Big 12 merger.
Where does he get the idea the SEC wants to play B10 in non conference? It's proven they'd rather beat FCS or MAC teams instead. His Notre Dame take was weird. These guys are dumb.
It’s literally been reported by national media outlets.
Who is really the dumb one when you can’t use Google?
Without fsu and Clemson new pac 12 is better
😂😂. That’s why their TV deal is going to be worth about 1/3 of the Big 12’s. Give me a break.
@CouzsCornerSports why are big 12 fans so sensitive
No advantage to a b12 acc merger.
Where is Texas tech.
Mountain Pod
Merge the Big 12 and ACC ?
The Big 12's issue isn't stability ( which a merger with the ACC would solve ), the Big 12's issue is money.
If you merge ALL of the Big 12 teams and ALL of the ACC teams, then you don't change the money ( since both conferences distribute about the same ).
Now, if you DROP some lower value teams ( e.g. UCF, Cincinnati, Wake Forest, Syracuse ) and merge the Higher value teams, then you would create more stability AND more money distributed per school.
As a UCF grad, I'm biased. I don't know if you can drop UCF; they're in a great location for recruiting and one of the most visited cities in the world. Fans from visiting teams can hit the theme parks; they don't have to worry about UCF's commitment to football since they asked Orange County for 160 million dollars to upgrade the bounce house. They ended up only getting 100 million, but they put themselves out there and asked for the money that Orange County has left over from all the tourists that go to Orlando. They also gave 400 million to Camping World to upgrade the stadium so Orlando could be a good destination for the conference championship game.
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Yeah, I just picked the 2 lowest current revenue athletic programs in the ACC and the 2 in the Big 12. I didn't do any sort of marketing analysis which could lead to very different answers. My general point was: If you merge one conference that distributes about $50 Million per school with another conference that distributes about $50 Million per year, we're not going to raise per school money via that merger.
That’s a fair take, but I’m not sure I agree.
UCF is definitely an up & coming brand and are rising fast. If they start winning consistently, look out.
Great video, guys! One thing you pointed out that no one else has really talked about is the automatic qualifiers.
Sure, more teams would mean tougher competition, but if the Big 12 and ACC merge, you’d end up with the same number of automatic qualifiers as the SEC and Big Ten.
If that’s the case, why bother with eight pods? Four pods with eight teams each and an automatic qualifier for each sounds way more appealing.
And on top of that, it would make scheduling opponents much easier. 7 games against your pod, 3 games against cross-division pods, and 2 games for non-conference
@@jongrove02 I like the idea.
@@CouzsCornerSports no it isa bad idea. Because then the Big Ten and SEC will do the same thing
Big ten want 4 SEC want 4 Big 12/ACC want 4. What about the PAC, AAC, MW, Sunbelt
Unfortunately, they are being forced to take whatever the P4 (actually the P2) is willing to give them.
lol what if enough schools from the ACC vote to disband to make this happen and in the end FSU and Clemson are not 2 of the voters and they get left out. 😂
That would definitely be ironic, but that’s highly unlikely.
No. For 1 reason it's one less vote to keep the SEC and B1G in check. For another, it makes no financial sense to do so.
I agree on one, disagree on point two.
@@CouzsCornerSportsEach team only brings so much value. So why would each team suddenly bring more value just because it's in a bigger conference?
4 pods of 8 teams.
@@petequigley5269 those would be divisions.
To many mouths to feed.
Off currant deal yes. As of 2031 no
No interest in UCONN
I want the Old Big East back together again 🏈🏈🏈🏈🏈🏈🏈
It didn't work for the big east.
They had too many non-football schools. All of these schools would have football.
This merge would make you the largest conference. The key is the TV coverage. Viewership is the most important thing. How much money will you bring in compared to the SEC and Big 10.
If the Big 12 could add Notre Dame, Clemson, FSU, Miami, and North Carolina, you could argue that the said conference could rise as a true 3rd power conference.
Yes, but the likelihood of that happening is very, very low. I’d say adding Notre Dame is next to zero.
@@CouzsCornerSports agreed.