Uploading a 1080p video upscaled to 4K doesn't add any pixel information. But it does change the codec RUclips uses when encoding your videos, and that codec is a better quality codec. Right click the video and check "Stats for nerds" to see the codec that was used to encode your videos. So that's why it seems to add quality when you upscale your videos before uploading.
Seriously i love your channel and i am telling you content is always king, i have multiple videos that went viral and where shoot on 720p on a phone!!! So the best advice is to produce content that you love and gives value to your audience, you upgrade gear when you can and because you like it, not because of views! Great videos seriously keep it up
Thanks for the support 👊 I really appreciate it. And that's a great reminder about just making the video great no matter the camera. I think a lot of us create excuses for ourselves "I'll create content once I get a good camera" etc.... I know I've been guilty of that! I'm not going to lie though, it really does feel good to look back at a piece of work being about the quality 🤣
The last 3 years ive honed my photography skills on a 13 year old Canon t3i and convinced myself I needed a new Sony to shoot 4k video if I were to ever start my own channel. Fuck that, I'll just start. Appreciate the perspective!
Haha you are much wiser than I. Yeah honestly with good lighting and a decent lens, an older camera with 1080p would be JUST fine for growing a RUclips channel to 100k+ subs.
That is great content. Few years ago I had this dilemma when setting up my studio and found out good 1080 clean hdmi out can deliver sharper than most 4k cameras
For sure right? Similar with recording in 8-bit vs. 10 bit. Ultimately I ended up shooting in 4k 10-bit because I think it looks great to me but I don't think my audience would know the difference if I was in 1080P 8-bit upscaled to 4k on RUclips...
4:30 yup 😅 this is what Roger Deakins does for his movies 😅 He'll shoot in 1080p on a goddamn Arri Alexa then upscale to 2.5K. I think he now shoots 4K but that's like in the past 4yrs or so he's changed. Whenever 1917 came out, he decided to shoot 4K. He used to say the files for 4K were too big and unnecessary b/c he got the same or better quality from lower resolution then upscaling.
The quality of my last 2 live-streaming videos on 4K vs. my 1080p videos is night and day. I played the video on my 4K TV, and the difference is very noticeable. It's not something you have to do. Since I livestream, it does not affect my file size since I am not saving it on my computer at the time. I post to RUclips, and that's it. I also noticed a difference between my phone and my iPad. The video looks much better. I am unsure if this will help me generate more views in the long run, but I feel good about having better quality.
Yeah I'm with you. I shoot in the highest quality possible because I watch on a big 4k TV too. It definitely doesn't help grow the channel but it's nice to have confidence in the quality.
Great video as always. You are a natural at this. Sharpness can be overrated, especially when you want something to look more "cinematic". In fact I think for the longest time cinema cameras were shooting in 2 k and uploading to 4 k. Most REDS have a very soft 4K. Hyper realistic is actually the opposite of "cinematic" so a softer video, with inaccurate colours and shot in a lower frame rate (24P gang!! :p ) will look more cinematic. The same has applied to photography for a long time which is why many photographers would search to find and use old classic lenses that are soft and imperfect compared to the clinically sharp modern lenses. And ultimately yes, content matter more than anything else. Camera Conspiracies has never had great looking video (imho respectfully) but his content is usually so good that I would rather watch his stuff over say, Tony Northrup or Gerald Undone. The only real benefit to higher resolutions is for larger screens and greater viewing distances. And yes, as you said, most people watch videos on RUclips, on their phones... and yet RUclipsrs love to knock cams for not having the sharpest 4K image, or "only 8 bit"... when the final output is going to be in highly compressed 8 bit RUclips videos viewed on mobile formats 99.9% of the time. PS. I've actually never watched a Mr Beast video....
Great points! I thought it was really interesting when you mentioned that everyone tries to changes their colors to get that "cinematic" look... and you're right. It's almost hilarious how people buy the most accurate gear only to then bring it in a completely different direction. To be fair I do realize that good gear essentially gives them more clay to sculpt so to speak. Also I wanted to say thank you for your kind words and support. I had some momentum with my Sony FX30 video but a couple days after that video the RUclips algorithm has come down hard on my channel and videos. I followed it up with what I thought were some good videos but the views have almost flatlined (despite good keyword research / topics). It's very discouraging. I'm not looking for sympathy or anything but I just want to remind you that you just saying "great job" really goes a long way for small creators like me. I really appreciate that and I'm sure others do as well. Have a great weekend!
Enjoyed this video. Keen observations. Your channel is small now but you've got it. Great voice, appealing personality and something of value to say. Subscribed.
Aw, thank you for the support. It is really appreciated! It is slow going growing a RUclips channel but I'm all in. Got all sorts of stuff coming down the pipes! Look forward to chatting.
This gave me a lot of insight on how I should record and render my videos with the equipment I have. Thank you and Happy New Year! and for anyone else reading this be sure to comment on videos and be active in the community. Those interactions usually come back to you.
Right? Me too. It's tough though because we get so used to these channels with insane quality, so then when we find a smaller channel that has good content it's hard not to be like... this looks like crap lol. But that might just be me because now I'm super sensitive to everything in every video I watch now... the lighting, the angles, the clarity etc.. It's almost like when you try nicer wine then you can't go back to the cheap wine you used to enjoy. I almost wish I never tried the nice wine (bought better gear) lol.
@@thesahdstudio I'm the same. I'll give you a perfect example that you can see for yourself just by doing a search here on RUclips. Lately I've been looking for Brazil, Colombia, and Thailand nightlife videos. There's tons of good content out there but they all look like crap with the low lighting. But there is this one guy that uses good gear and he stands out above the rest. But guess what? The content isn't even that good LOL. He basically walks around town filming and doesn't say anything. From the looks of it he doesn't get fancy with any editing. Writes a few sentences in certain clips. He has over 200k followers!! Basically he found something people are interested in and films it with good gear and he's successful. It makes sense.
Nice video and robot dancing! I record on my iPhone 14 Pro Max in 1080p with just the celling lights on and have NEVER had anyone complain about my video quality. BUT uploading in 4k? New to me... looking into it!
Thanks! lol. Yeah you know what, your quality looks just fine! It sure is impressive what kind of footage you can get from those Pro Max iPhones. Tinkering around is fun but don't waste too much time on it. Getting the story / thumbnails / headlines that's the stuff we need to spend the real time on 👊
Oh yeah, I've had issues with echo as I keep moving my studio around and it's tough to sound treat the rooms I'm in... it's tough. I can use voice isolation with Davinci Resolve which really helps though, but sometimes I forget. It's tricky to get good sound sometimes without making the room look like a recording studio.
2:00 this part 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾 I'll also add that due to most people viewing content at 720p or 1080p that there's also a feeling going on emotionally while viewing at the more common resolutions. 4K doesn't mean better, and 720p doesn't mean worse.
For sure man. I talked about frame rates and instead now of thinking one is better than another. I see them as different tools to help tell the story. I think the same can be said for resolutions.
This video is really helpful. Thank you. I'm in the process of uploading my first video to RUclips. I'm finding it takes a LONG TIME to upload in 4K. Next time I am going to try 1080p. Thanks for all your suggestions. PS I have a Sony ZV 1 Mark II camera which I really like.
That's a nice little camera! Glad you found the video. Yeah it's a lot of extra hoops to go through to shoot in 4k, and like you said, it takes time. It's fine if you have the gear but it's not worth the rush to get the gear until you really start making money.
@@thesahdstudio I did a lot of research before buying my camera (Sony ZV 1 Mark II) and I'm glad I put in the time and effort. It's definitely a camera I can grow into as a beginner.
I am a note-to-color music theorist who started making re-mix videos and music videos because I started getting good at documenting my own music perceptions. I did a series of three Sia music videos, and on the last one (just today) I decided to upload a video saved as 4k and a 1080p save, but both in private mode (unreleased). This means that I do not SHOOT if 4k, I only upload the video as a 4k vs 1080p file. Because I work with found-footage off the internet. Or shoot using Snapchat characters, with is not 4k by any means. So my advice here applies to SAVING and UPLOADING a file as 4k. // I compared each of my uploads back to back in two different uTube windows. I was SHOCKED to find that the 4k was more crisp and detailed. Also, the audio was also slightly deeper and more resonant. For the audio I use very high-qualtiy studio headphones (Sennheiser HD 600's), so they were able to show very clearly the difference. All this being said, because I am doing very artistic type of videos, for me uploading in 4k is suddenly crucial for me. I am lamenting that I uploaded all of my past videos as 1080p. YET, if someone is going a live Podcast in a talk-show situation, or stuff like this, I think 1080p would be fine. ALSO, the better audio quality of 4k (as far as my ears told me), could be seen as insignificant once you play the video/audio in your car on on your home stereo. My equipment is high-end studio stuff. In closing: my experiments with 4k uploads in post-2023 showed results of WORSE quality. So, uTube must be processing/compressing 4k videos better now. Bottom line, if you upload in 4k your video will be slightly more crisp, and your 1080 will be fuzzier. If you have show-off visual video, it might be a good idea to upload in 4k. HOWEVER, I am working on a Macintosh, and using (and saving the videos) using Final Cut Pro--a Mac based program. Everything I just told you might possible ONLY apply to Final Cut Pro MAC users! Ha. Hope this gives some insights as far as uploading is concerned. And, incidentally, my new Sia video can be found a the top of the page here at: _The Acoustic Rabbit Hole!_ Thanks, everyone, and thank you to SADH Studios for making some very important videos!!!
Thanks for sharing your experience. And cool video! I too have found it's best to upload in the highest quality possible, even if your gear doesn't quite support it... so if your camera only supports 1080p, like you were saying it's still worth it to upload in 4k. It's tough to look back at older content and wish things looked better but if it wasn't the quality it would be something else... when I look back at my older content, even though the quality is decent, my lighting or white balance is off, or I edited the videos different then. Only moving forward should we keep optimizing the content. Keep it up! 👊
seriously my past lower-rez stuff actually looks good even SVHS but then i went all out highq 4K but now going w 1080 for standard since i noticed most of the time coudntell diff -- IT'S ALL ABOUT MORE LIGHT = INCREASES QUALITY! btw this nxt part is a joke: "uwannastep up shoot only jpeg pics use that as footage (use comics 4 storyboards -- even use TEXT for narration) -- this is all in original device app then export in the lowest rez so its so crappy no1 knows what the orig raws were then tell them u shot in 8k exported into VHS then redigitized it then upscalled it 2 16k then printed it on an old pinslot printer frm the 50s then put it on a canvas paint over it then burn it in a bonfire. good times"
RUclips video compression gives every resolution the same ratio of bitrate. So, if you upload a 1080p video to youtube at 4K it will have much more bitrate after compression and so it will look much cleaner. Also recording video at 4K improves quality a lot. Video recording with a camera is not the same thing as rendering a video digitally. When you record at 4K rather than 1080p, the camera sensor will recieve much more information and videos will look better than recording at just 1080p.
Yeah I have noticed improvements in things like audio just by uploading in 4K etc... still things like better lighting and microphones would improve quality of content besides strictly upping the resolution, but if you can do both you'll likely be better off!
Wow I am so glad I found your channel! I film a combination of Vlogs and talking head videos about my life here in El Salvador 💙 🇸🇻 and I try to provide the best image quality for my viewers but have always questioned these settings as I've upgraded over the years. My main camera is my phone Samsung s22 ultra, though I also use the dji osmo action and mini se drone. I have been shooting in 2160 60 fps on both my phone and action but the highest my drone will do is 2720x1530 30fps so when I edit I downgrade the other footage to match my drones settings 2720x1530 30 fps and I export it and upload to youtube like this as well with mixed results. I use filmora x to edit and would love to edit and upload in 4k but I'm not sure my laptop can handle that though filmora offers an edit with proxy option now I've been too scared to try 😅. In your opinion is it worth editing in 1530 (kind of like 2k) or should I film and edit in 1080 or bite the bullet and try proxy files at 2160?
Proxies for SURE! My kids are off school for the summer and it's really hard for me to create videos at the moment (plus we just moved!)... but my next video for this channel is literally talking about this. I will do my best to get that out this week so stay tuned! I use DaVinci Resolve but I'm sure it's similar (and easy!). Don't be scared. Do it!!
Yeah it's hard to disagree with you. I personally watch a lot of RUclips on big screen TV's so I appreciate the quality myself which is why I try and offer the highest quality possible... but nowadays a lot of gizmos upscale content anyway so it makes 1080p look almost as good anyway!
@@thesahdstudio part of the blame is on tiktok, where people just watch anything in any quality as long is 30sec.. You gotta a good channel here, you deserve more subs
@@Darth_yoyo Good call. I mean I guess it's a good reminder that good content outweighs good quality. And thanks for the support! Really appreciate it 👊
I think the standards are just not the same. I'm sure whatever 1080p comes out of Beast's channel is not the same 1080p that comes out of my channel. RUclips prefers his content over mine and gives him more bitrate. Bitrate, not resolution, is what matters at the end of the day. How do you get RUclips to give you the most bitrate at 1080p. Do you get better 1080p quality when you have 4K available? I don't know tbh. For my videos I need every bitrate I can get because so much is changing in the scene all the time that it artifacts a lot. My sweet spot is 1440p right now but not sure how that'll change in the future. I'm still experimenting.
I feel like yes, if you upload at 4k it looks/sounds crisper. A lot of commenters have said when they export their 1080p at 4k then upload they notice both an improvement in the look and sound. Might be worth a test?
@@thesahdstudio But do they mean it improves their look and sound in 4K or 1080p? People who only have 1080p screen (majority?) won't playback in 4K. So I try to maximize looks in 1080p playback. For my when I upload in 1440p in looks worse in 1080p than had I uploaded straight in 1080p. I would also get the premium 1080p option potentially. It's hard. I feel like people switching to 1440p or even 4K when they have 1080p screens may only be a small techy minority. I remember my super social media savy friend didn't know you could playback videos faster...
@DariusOutdoors well I think 4K scales better down to 1K than 1440p. I feel like it gets a higher quality bit rate but there are some settings you can check for youtube uploads so you might want to double check that.
I decided early on I wanted 4k for my tiny channel. The reason is I look back at old videos on a LOT of YT channels and most are shot at 720p or lower and it looks AWFUL on my 32 monitor or even worse on my 60 inch TV. Less than half of my views are from monitors or TVs but that's still a chunk. And that could go up in time though. Also I watch a lot of YT on my 32 inch 4k monitor and I much prefer watching 4k.
I'm right there with you my friend. A lot of people watched RUclips on their phone... At 480p or some type of potato quality. But I don't. And I want to make sure when I watch my content in 10 years from now that it still looks good. Which is why I paid a little extra for my gear. Is it completely necessary? Maybe not. You could probably get away with running something in the middle like some high quality 1080p with a good lens... But if you go for the extra effort I get it..
I found this video in the nick of time. I was just about to leave the house to purchase…SOMETHING 🤷♂️ after watching an obscene amount of camera comparison vids over the past 2 weeks. I’m starting with my iPhone 14 Pro Max as a main camera for talking head vids; But I’m going CRAZY trying to figure out what to use for a secondary camera. 😫😫😫
Haha I'm glad you found the video. I know that feeling all too well. Your iPhone is just fine to get started on. What do you need a second camera for?!
@@thesahdstudio Well…update…I just purchased a Canon M50 Mark II on eBay for a number of reasons. I can still use my iPhone for other ideas as well. It’s go time! 😃👍🏻
Resolution is not very important, but bitrate is, and RUclips serves 1080p videos at a much lower bitrate than 4K videos. I was just watching one of MrBeast's latest 1080p videos on my QHD (1440p) monitor, and it looks awful due to compression artifacts. That's why you saw an improvement when you uploaded a 1080p upscaled to 4K. I used to select 1440p resolution when available on my old 1080p monitor for that reason.
Exactly! With 4K uploads RUclips allows different containers which uses higher quality audio. I often find the audio sounds better at higher "res" and now I know why.
The thing I like about videos shot in 4k (even when watching in 1080p) is that the higher resolution and pixel density gives you a better dynamic range. So the colors look a lot more realistic. The colors in videos shot in 1080p on the other hand look pretty washed out in comparison, and the brighter areas look overexposed.
Yeah me too. I definitely find whenever I can bump up the quality on a video it makes the viewing experience that little more enjoyable. I think when you have the trained eye you notice it that much more. My wife on the other hand couldn't tell you the difference!
That's all because of compression. If you watch 10-bit 4:2:2, 1080 vs 4k, the colors will both be the same. Resolution doesn't mean different dynamic range unless the platform, like RUclips, makes it that way.
@@cameronmcgehee Wouldn't chroma subsampling on 4:2:2 in 1080p vs 4k give you more concentrated colour in higher res? If 4 out of every 8 pixels is coupled (subsampling) and 4k has 4 times the the resolution, then the 4k should still have way more concentrated colour (on a 4k screen)? I'm still learning this stuff.
@@thesahdstudio Note that I come from the world of broadcast and not cinema. So that might be the basis for all my biases below. I'm not sure what you mean by "concentrated". From what I can think, all you would get is lower resolution...because it is lower resolution. So, if something in your image went from total black to total white over two pixels in 4k, it would not show that in 1080...it would just show a gray pixel where the nearest pixel is in the lower resolution (if downscaled - if it was native 1080 you could of course generate a white next to black - think graphics). I could be slightly wrong though since this is also not a topic I have researched too much...because it really isn't that big of a deal to me. I have no reason to spend extra to make my whole workflow 4k. I do live productions, so the camera needs to output 4k, then the cable or transmitter needs to support 4k, then the router needs to be 4k, then the switcher needs to be 4k...the CG needs to be 4k, the media playback needs to be 4k, the ISO records a insanely huge, the stream encoder needs to accept 4k...all to broadcast over a network that cant support anything but a 720 and maybe a 1080 stream! Then I need to spend more time encoding the recording file that ends up being so huge my client's drive can't fit it. I prioritize 1. Shoot a good shot of a good scene 2. Color information 3. Bitrate My standard for master copy of something is currently 1080 59.94p, 10-bit 4:2:2 rec709, ~50-60Mbps.
@@cameronmcgehee It's really interesting to hear your side based on your experience. From what I've learned the 4k with 10 bit should look nicer even with subsampling but it's not a huge deal unless you see it side by side. Thanks for sharing all that!
Thank you. Just bought a Gopro. Between this fantastic video and Chris Tomshack , 8 gb vs 16 gb Mac computer . I have found my way into $ easing my way into a hobby I may or may not be good at. You are a very valuable asset !!! Gracias , Retired in Ecuador. Imported technology is much more expensive here.
I'm glad you found the video! And LOL... yeah whether or not any of us are any good I can say for sure that it's a lot of fun and something to do/learn which just makes life more fun. So you're just waiting for your new computer to show up? How exciting! Let us know how it us 👊
1080p rendered in 4k is what i learned by accident a while ago. So what i do is i film everything in 1080p and just render 4k to make it look sharp. And you're 1000% right about content over quality of pixels. 👍🏻
I am team DaVinci Resolve! They have great free version too. Yeah you know it surprised me also. The results just look fantastic and I'm looking forward to playing around more with it in the near future for fun. See if I can trick some people huehuehue
anyone remember Fox TV show with Seth McFarlane's the Orville. I think it was broadcast in 720P but it always looked better than any other TV show for OTA broadcast. better than all 1080i. the video was crisp and played at true 60FPS
Well said. Totally agree. Wrestling with whether I need a computer to process 4k video (ZVE-10). In my test yesterday, FYI, 60fps at 50M in HD was sharper than 40k at 24fps at 50m. Faster to process, sharper image. Interesting. Of course, other factors. But. Proved interesting. Appreciate your video/opinion.
Glad you found the video! And that is interesting. There are so many factors to consider, and I think as you feel more comfortable with your camera/gear, you can choose when to use what effect since they are all unique in their own way when it comes to story telling. Finding the right computer is trick! Took me quite awhile as you can probably tell from looking at my recent videos 😆
If you look at MarkusPix videos, dude shoots and uploads in 1080p but his footage always looks crispy, like you wouldn't be able to tell if it were 720p, 1080p, or 4K. He's also right b/c 4K while great for editing purposes is ugly in terms of viewing. You can't even properly view 4K unless you have a giant screen.
I haven't watched much of him but looks like he's got some nice gear! Interesting on his talking head video he's shooting at 60fps too. But I saw in another one he's shooting at 30. That's cool to see him bounce around.
Thank you, Mr. Sad. :(. As a new hobbyist videographer, I was just wondering if I must upload my content in 4K. I'm not doing this for any money, just for the enjoyment, so I'm not sure the extra time it takes to upload 4K is even worth it.
It's a good question... and there is no right or wrong answer. I WILL tell you this... MOST of the people who watch my content only watch it in 1080p or less despite the fact I offer 4k. I personally watch content on a 55" OLED tv so I appreciate when content is in high quality but hey, I don't mind if it's only 1080 as long as it's good content. Content first THEN quality. If you can do both that's the best!
I like to watch videos with the highest quality setting because it gives you more bitrate. I think it was called bitrate. But because of that fast moving things wont look as pixelated.
I watch RUclips primarily for information and entertainment as long as the video quality is good enough to see what I need to see. I don't care about it being any better. Also I'm lucky if I can watch a video at 720 without it buffering like crazy so 90 percent of the time I have it set to 480. If you aren't shooting something like national geographic content I don't know why anyone would deal with the extra editing difficulty and storage space requirements that come with 4k. Most movies are done in 1080.
Yeah I hear you. I think that reflects what most people on RUclips do also. I personally watch a lot of RUclips a 55" OLED tv so I really appreciate the higher quality efforts and try and put in that extra effort for my own stuff. We're our own toughest critics right? Does anyone care but me? No. Do I feel proud when I see my content on a big 4k screen and it looks good? A little!
And that's a really good point... it's a completely different beast for a lot of reasons. It's bigger SD cards, bigger hard drives, faster CPU's/GPU's, newer monitors... it's everything! $$$
I think it depends on your content. I do an outdoor walking channel and I shoot everything in 4k and upload as 4k because the scenery is all I have got to offer.
Yeah I hear you... and I agree. I think some channels really benefit from higher quality BUT the point remains that the idea/concept for each video needs to be thoughtful and to answer the viewers problem/curiosity.
Awesome, glad you found the video! Yes lighting and lenses really make the biggest differences when it comes to quality... it's crazy! What are you using now for a camera?
@@thesahdstudio hey! I am using a sony slt-37 dSLR, its around ten years old. I only have one lens 3,5-5,6, 18-55 (still trying to grasp what that means). Working on understanding my current equipment before expanding. Any suggestion on what lense to expand with to get the most out of it? If I have to define the use, I would say for relatively close range, cooking videos to start.
@@chef285-b4w So unfortunately I don't really know much about your camera or that lens mount. It's an older system and my knowledge is more with newer gear (mirrorless). Heck, I'm not sure what phone you are using but that could always be an option as well... perhaps you can try both your camera and phone and see which quality looks better. I love the Sigma 16mm f1.4 as a value lens but I'm not sure if they make it on that mount. Not sure if you've watched my latest video talking about a RUclips Studio Setup but that video might help give you an idea of what gear you need to get in which order. The last half explains the priority. Check it out if you get a couple minutes!
I would argue it's more about youtube than 1080p itself. If you film in 1080p then export it in 4K it still looks very good. Take for example Netflix, watching HD content still looks perfectly good, and actually all films are rendered down to 2K (wide 1080p) from 4K anyway. I prefer 8K over 4K, don't get me wrong, but when filming people/yourself resolution isn't that important, but that extra detail gives much more headroom for cropping in or mist filters and other addons that might turn a 1080p footage into dreamy, too soft image. As a wildlife videographer every bit of resolution is important, whether it's video or photo as you can comfortably crop in when needed without losing resolution. Heck, I'm waiting for the slightly affordable 8K@60/120fps camera to upgrade next mostly for that, and for having 33.2MP stills that no one believe that they're video frames. I send people a7sIII 4K frames and they don't believe their eyes and we're talking about 8.29MP, even 1080p video frames from my camera (2.1MP only!) look 10x better than photographs made by most of smaller sensors like phones.
Yeah you are right that crop factor is huge for a lot of people, and, like you said, scenes with lots of detail really benefit. I'm still surprised and slightly amazed at the amount of people that still have 1080p TVs though... At least in my life and friend circle. For me watching things in really high quality is such a satisfying experience but it's not that way for a lot of other people.
@@thesahdstudio You should put in mind that not all people have good vision, nor watch TV aside from regular TV channels, that are mostly still 1080p, and movies that look perfect in 1080p. To me I can easily see the difference between 8K and 4K which is staggering. It's literally watching 33.2MP images in motion!
@@thesahdstudio Nothing fancy, 2015 LG 4K (cheap) LCD, and 2016 4K HDR Sony X70D (budget as well). Planning to upgrade but too much camera gear to buy first.😅
What if I want to film in landscape and then edit another video from the footage for shorts and Instagram? Croping and editing 4k will not lose any video quality will it? Will 1080 lose quality to do this. I want to make 1 video and use it for RUclips and then a cropped version for insta. Possible at 1080? A new laptop and software for 4k is costing a fortune!
I think it should be fine at 1080p. Obviously you'll have more space to crop with the 4K file but since most people look at that content on tablets and phones anyways as long as it's good content nobody will care.
I mean, if you can upload in 4k without it being a huge strain on your camera/computer I say do it. But if no one on your channel is complaining about it then hey just keep doing what you're doing right?
@@thesahdstudio 2160p. Bitrate: 120 Mbps. Vidoes of 3 or 4 hours long. When I made a video of 5 hours, I have to change the resolution to 1440p otherwise it's over RUclips's limit of 256 GB.
dude.. for real, at the moment im struggling to get my mind together in this thematic :D i was sure to go with my FX30 then i saw your APSC vs. FULLFRAME COMPARISON, i was directly going to search up some good used or retoure FX3's on some websites, now you showed that Mr. Beast clip and this brought me back to reality :D To answer your question: im just in the beginning but i have to say, that in all im pretty happy with my Sony FX30 in combination with all my amaran Lights.. its more like a lack of skill to use all of it how i should. Im trying to get a more "cinematic Talking Head style" because the storys im going to tell will be much more dramatic and kinda Horror, in a dark Setup with Red lights in the focus. but still i wanna go with the 4K without ND, Smog, or Mist filters, i will try what looks good with the VST named "Scatter" it simulates any Filter in a very accurate way, you should check that one ;) and 4K just to get the Highest quality. You always can grade/edit it more cinematic, blurry etc, but a lower quality... no chance, details are gone.. greetings
Hehe I know right? It's tough trying to get the right gear. Obviously it'd be great to shoot full-frame with a nice fast lens but it ain't cheap. What lens do you have with your FX30? And yeah I mean you gotta shoot 4k. Beast does he just downscales it but it still captures additional information which makes the overall images look better. Do your best not to have over-analysis paralysis though you know? Nobody is really going to care in the beginning except you. You have a nice little camera there. Just get a fast wide lens (f1.4 if possible) and do your best. Add more light then create spooky effects in post to keep your video sharp if you need to or if the color isn't good enough in low light. Look forward to checking it out!
Yea it was not like "lets buy a decent Camera, some LED´'s" and film some high quality cinematic Videos hehe. I was just buying a Sigma 16mm F1.4 :) its a pretty good one, and i also own a Sirui 35mm anamorphic f1.8, but this Sirui is more to play around. The correct lighting will help me yes, just needs some time testing around :) keep up@@thesahdstudio
Audio > 4k 1080p with good lighting is good enough imo, especially for a talking head video. 4k makes a bigger difference in the outdoors, especially with trees and foliage, but still, you could probably do fine with 1080. Another downside to 4k, is having a powerful enough PC to edit them, and if you want to store all of your footage, you'll need a lot more storage. And considering most users might watch on a smartphone, not have a proper 4k device to notice all the details, or not even be able to stream 4k properly, I'll argue 4k is overkill.
I agree with your points, for sure. The one thing I will add though is that, as a creator, sometimes pride is involved. Your RUclips channel almost becomes a resume... and if you want people to eventually work with you, you want to showcase your abilities and inspire confidence in those parties to let them know that if they choose to work with you, you will offer excellent quality. Do you know what I mean? For me, as I continue to grow I know companies will reach out and want me to review their gear... and the better my quality looks, the more they might want to work with me. This is what I tell myself anyway and why I probably overspend lol!
That's a good question and I don't know. I imagine the footage has smaller bitrates and will be smaller overall regardless of the resolution. I imagine it will save space to store yes.
Yeah you're right... smaller resolution requires less data which is always nice. And like you're saying there is a point of diminishing returns on certain screen sizes.
i'm curious why not use a camcorder? I have an older Canon Vixia HF G10 and quite like this line of prosumer camcorders. I'm no expert here but have read a ton of blogs that basically say camcorders are more suited for recording longer videos and that cameras that record video either can't record long enough or subject to over heating or lack key features when shooting video vs taking photos. Example, having an external monitor. Maybe the lines are more blurred now a days (2023) but if this topic is worth covering, I'd appreciate seeing this topic discussed or some PROs and CONs highlighted. Just found your channel, love your content!
This is a great question. I had a HD Sony camcorder back in 2010 and I think the problem was, at least in my case, it didn't age well. That and the lack of interchangeable lenses, it felt very limiting. Nowadays though, I imagine they are a lot better... But a camera body I can pair with the lens of my choice, it's just fun! Plus buying and selling used, I can play and it doesn't really cost me anything. I'd Love to Tinker with a camcorder though now. Good call! If I can get my hands on one I will make a video for sure!! Welcome to the channel. I just didn't the last few months moving so I haven't been super active but I will pick it up once the kids go back to school in the fall!
@@thesahdstudio thank you for writing back and great point about the interchangeable lens. Not to turn this into a Canon advertisement but wish to point out that the vixia does have threads on the end of the lens that you can attach adapters too and for some of my close ups I attach a macro lens. I know this is not the same as swapping out a whole lens like you describe. Anyway, I could go on here but I'm really trying to decide to stay with camcorder or look at cameras that shoot video as my next upgrade. Thanks for making great videos, your editing and lighting look so professionally done! Off to see if you have videos on this too :)
@@revealingfacts4all I guess my question to you is, why are you deciding to upgrade? What about your current setup do you feel like is lacking or you want to improve? I think the hybrid cameras are just so versatile, it gives users a lot of freedom to be creative however they'd like. With that being said, even though I have an a7iv, I really don't use many of those features available to me... sometimes I just put it in A priority mode, auto iso, auto white balance and go, and luckily with a good lens, it's pretty easy to get away with and have my footage still look good. There are so many fun lenses to play around with as well as picture profiles. Do the camcorders have picture / log profiles built in? I like knowing my quality is good, but what is the difference in quality between this and something like you've got? I'm sure one could pixel peep but at the end of the day, it's your story and content that matter most. I've been able to buy and sell enough used gear to get to a point where I appreciate my 4k mirrorless camera and somewhat know what I'm doing. Early on I got a A7iii with a G-master 16-35mm lens and had no clue what I was doing. I sold it then started with something small and worked my way back up. We all want better gear but just shooting and learning is what's most important. That and having fun! I'd still like to know more about camcorders though!
@@thesahdstudio my reasons are (1) camera has no built in ND filter and newer ones do. I found by using a screw on ND filter works but not as nice as having one built in. (2) my camera no longer charges batteries through the power adapter so I had to purchase a 3rd party battery charger. (3) the hot shoe is proprietary and I think a hot shoe mounted light would improve my videos; currently I use no external lighting options (newbie here). (4) having a 2nd camera to use with my current one would allow getting different shots simultaneously reducing the workload but admittedly this is more about having FUN with more cameras lol. thanks, again, for your insights. Agree with you, not a pixel counter nor do I use many of the camera's cinematic/creativity features that much that they are a deal breaker but I sort of have this weird thinking that is I'd like to have it and not need it rather than need it and not have it - to a point though. Thanks again!
Well you literally just choose 4k when you are rendering your video with enhanced bitrate. Usually your software will do it's best to upscale the footage and often times it looks nicer. Worth at least trying out if you see it.
I would much rather have high bitrate 1080p than 4k on youtube. 1080p is fine for most content, but after youtube compresssion looks absolutley horrible. Using all that bandwidth on a higher resolution _and_ bitrate, rather than allowing to focus only on bitrate really sucks.
Yeah I hear you for sure. I've definitely learned that some scenes really show the compression artifacts worse than others. I used to just have nice flat backgrounds with a gradient from the light, but in those gradients it looks really choppy and noisy. The more stuff in the background seems to look better in my experience. There's so many factors I guess I'm realizing... but you are right. More bitrate is better.
The funny thing most of us don’t have hi speed data to watch in 4K in Asia or most non 1st world countries. So yeah at end of the day 1080p is the way.
That's a really good reminder. I would still upscale to 4k if I could just for those few who watch on big screens but, it doesn't really matter. If the story is good they will still watch!
Yes I shoot in 1080P for the smaller size files. My camera does shoot in 4K but for RUclips you really don't see a difference. Once I'm done editing the video I will render it to 4K. I like the video camera as it has great auto focus. I have a few other cameras but I always go back to the Canon. I've attached a video so you can see for yourself. ruclips.net/video/vhc2pgb_Co4/видео.html
Are you doing 1080p 60fps now? I think 60 fps is probably the most important part. I guess it depends if you think it looks better. I'm sure the 1080 is fine... And maybe 4K 60fps while screen recording might be a little too hard on any computer? You could upscale it when you're exporting it to 4K. I can't think of any reason not to do that?
I hate that he don't upload in 4k it's trash, especially if you experienced 4k. Most people who will give have money and they expect quality. I don't have money like that but appreciate quality so much I take great enjoyment out of seeing the world in a better picture 💯 If I don't see a video in 4k and you have they skills for it ,editing, speaking,ideas, its almost obsolete if you don't take the next step to become greater or in my opinion the greatest. It's all fun I'm games but to be 1 of the best that does it ,is it and you have to know if you do ,if you don't help someone who does have it and teach them there true potential. This video is a good example of this . Professional advice with example and very good quality thank you.
I always find it interesting when people have audio as #1. I put it a little lower on the list with story-telling being #1 but I agree that video quality is near the bottom.
@@thesahdstudio I put it as number one because you can bare rubbish image quality, but bad sound, you turn off immedietely. You'd have to be pretty darn interested or invested in the story to bare poor sound. That's why sound is number one.
I subscribed to you because you shoot in 4K and your content is good. In an equal playing field where you weigh story over quality, a story always wins, but the story alone will lose to a good story plus good quality. If you are going to create great stories, might as well shoot in the best quality possible. I shoot with GFX 100S for all my travel pics, 100mp, overkill? Yes for now. But when I take photos for memories, I'm future proofing in for my great-grandchildren in the future. Yeahs, in today's world 100mp is overkill, how about in the future world? I don't know about other people, but when I take photos, I intended it to last a lifetime or even beyond that. Most people complain it takes too much space in hard drive, but then again, storage is cheap. I'm not printing my images, I intend to keep in in digital format for as long as I can.
We speak the same language my friend! Although my wife does NOT speak that language haha. It's very hard to convince someone why you need to shoot in high quality when they just don't understand. Welcome aboard! And I know nothing about that GFX 100S, it looks incredible! I take it you are very happy with it? What lens is on there right now?
@@thesahdstudio I'm happy with it, but not VERY happy with it because autofocus could have been faster on some lenses. But if you come from DSLR background, you'll feel that it's a substantial upgrade. They have very wide selection of lenses surprisingly. My favorite one are 110 (87mm) F2, almost a perfect lens optically, the 80mm (63mm) 1.7 is not bad but the autofocus is a little slower due to the stepper motor. But for travel, I pretty much shoot with the 20-35mm (16-27mm) F4 lens and the 32-64 (25-50mm) F4 lens.
So why are you a Fuji person? I do not have a photography background... So when it comes to video it seems like they've always been pretty behind as far as autofocus goes. The colors look great though.
@@thesahdstudio I'm not a Fuji person, I use Fuji GFX for some of my photography work, just ordered the A7RV for a more portable system to take photos of my other half and I have A7SIII and Red Komodo for videos (mostly budget glass from DZOFilm. Wanted to get the Red Raptor but the price is kinda steep for what I want to invest in. Wished I had gone Canon route because I could have shared the RF glass together with the Red Raptor. I mean, it would still work with the DZOFilm but just couldn't justify the price. As for Fuji, I've not tried the APS-C models but from the GFX line, it feels alot more solid than any Sony I've used.
Funny you talk about a nice big aperture 1.4 lens. Which cannot resolve 4K to begin with. The best lenses are always the ones 1-2 stops dimmer than the most wide expensive one. They usually arre as sharp at F4 as the 1.4 at F8. I miss a real big part of the process: editing. Doing 24p1080 is such a breeze when editing. You can even do it on a Core2Duo. And backups are way smaller. Last benefit of 1080p is the environment, with 90% watching YT content on 720p or less, why have the datacenters process 4K?
What do you mean the f1.4 cannot resolve 4k? I'm still learning this stuff so I'd love to know what you mean. Yeah editing in lower bitrate is so much easier right? These 4k files get bigggg. Also, I do think there's a difference in bokeh and sharpness though and most of us are chasing that blurry background. I do think it's noticeable even in lower HD formats.
I don't think that way tho, we've seen a big increase in viewers, who watch youtube on tv, I think it's around 45%, so it's almost half of the users. If you take into consideration that 4k TV as well are increasing, even in poorer countries, then you can imagine that in about 2 years 4k will be the standard. the moment I switched my tv and my monitors for 4k devices was life changing tbh. I can't even watch 1080p videos anymore on bigger screens bc the lack of crispness. you can even see the difference in 1080p to 4k upscaled footage, which is not surprising tbh. on mobile it's a different story tho, still, users tend to switch to bigger screens when watching their favourite youtubers. so in the end, you'd want to switch to 4k anyways, except you're mrbeast :)
@@tomacaroni Nah, if AI can turn Rick Ashley VHS footage into 4K, why bother editing all the gigabytes yourself? In 10 years our TV's will contrive the missing pixels. It would be cool if you could limit destinations as YT creator, make video's work on sub 30 inch screens only for example,
1440p is already good enough. But in most cases I don't watch the video and only download an audio part. I watch this video in 480p and have no intention to choose higher quality.
Yeah fair enough. I watch a lot of content in bed on my 55" OLED tv so I really appreciate high quality videos personally. But when watching on my phone, who cares!
Yeah a lot of people really put focus on audio quality. It seems to me as long as you're room isn't too echoey and you are relatively close to your microphone that seems to be good enough for RUclips. At least while starting out.
@@thesahdstudio Having charisma and magnetism is probably the most important thing alongside fresh and interesting content . There are youtubers who just use a an iphone 13 , 14 and 15 etc and have many multiple hundreds of thousands subscribers..... So number 1 is the person Imo . having the x factor.
You know when I watch a movie made today everything looks crispy very color full, than I rewatch the bad,the good & the ugly all that dusty old image, old color and I say this is real, like go and watch the new Dune, the realism should be there but it's not, it's still in the old Dune even if it dosen't match the book perfect. And another thing with all that quality they still have blur behind, same with your video all that focus on your face but the backround is a blur, that's annoying to the eye, don't know if it's from the cam, from the editing, if you watch mr beast videos there's no blur behind him in old or new videos. And then it comes to color like in the old movies, go watch min 3:55 your $3000 camera it's to overcolored, the blur is there behind you. And it's not me picking the image it's the eye, and belive me blur, color can trigger the brain, the helth, as a gamer I can tell you from when I was young & super healthy there was one game because of the bad color, the blur will make me sick motion and that was quake 2
I think as one gets better as a videographer or creator with some camera skills... eventually you realize each frame rate, each aperture, each colour profile is a different way to tell a story. None are right, and none are wrong... but in the beginning a lot of people don't realize when to use each one, and in the example you gave me about that footage (with the Canon) about it being oversaturated... that was just me not fully understanding how to use that piece of gear / software. I think it's great to use all the tools depending on the story... and good directors and producers do this! Everything Everywhere All At Once is a great example of a film that understands this and bounces between even different aspects ratios. It's a funny journey learning and getting good at RUclips. I'm trying to share as I learn so others can get better from my experience AND mistakes!
My best performing video is 1080. 4K definitely looks better IMO and I love it. I started out using a GoPro then switched to a Sony Alpha so I could shoot with a better lens and in 4K. I've made quite a few video using my iPhone 14Pro and they look just as good as my $2k camera. The only difference is the boka from the lens and the ease of use pulling the video files off an SD card as opposed to pulling them off the iPhone
Those are some good points and make for interesting conversation. At the end of the day what you are saying is what a lot of us who have channels eventually realize in that, while having good gear gives you great confidence to make quality videos... nobody cares. As long as what you have to say is interesting, that is BY FAR the most important thing. High quality video is just the icing on the cake... because like you, I also appreciate it. So when I see small creators with good content AND good quality, I'm like, nice job!! I appreciate it.
I watch on my phone, I can't tell until RUclips lowers the quality to 480p. Most phones settings it seems don't default to 4k. And loading 4k on a phone can take to long. Sometimes streaming and not waiting to load is more important than 4k. Also the story matters more to me. Anything better than 480p! Oh new shaky footage please.
I didn't even realize that my Samsung s21 screen is locked at 1080p. I feel like a couple years ago they were really pushing 4K and high resolution screens on handheld devices until they finally realized that not only does it kill the battery faster but the file sizes are bigger and people chew through data way more. So yeah might as well watch it in lower res unless it's something you're really paying attention to and want to look slightly better!
@@thesahdstudio I am watching your video in my phone 2160p 30fps it look very much more sharpen then 1080p it's also support 265 hevc higher efficiency codec
@@thesahdstudio yes but vivo not give updates 😂 I stuck in Android 9 only that's why sometimes iphones and Samsung is good because it's give operating system update latest version
@@WILDFIRE69-r4i 😂 yeah that's a good point. I've had my Samsung S21 for awhile... it's good and it seems secure (enough updates). I don't see any reason to upgrade. The screen is fine for the size... for now! But that's interesting you even notice the difference in quality on that size screen.
I use Davinci Resolve. It's incredible! A bit of a learning curve but the sky is the limit. There are some really great creators offering Resolve tutorials on RUclips also. Plus the free version works really well.
That's really interesting! I'm not sure, there's a lot of different things going on like bitrate, compression, what codecs you're using etc... I don't know what your render settings are. Something weird is going on!
I for one will actively downgrade any 4k video to 1080p... Main reason is because I have cox internet and they have data caps... DATA CAPS!!! The higher the resolution, the faster I hit that cap and have to pay extra. so 1080p is what I'm going to keep all resolutions at. Gaming, videos, EVERYTHING! If the quality is good enough at 720p, that would be even better. I don't want to pay extra just to see the pores in someone's face, and as long as I stay at this resolution, I go nowhere near my data cap. higher resolutions easily chew through my bandwith and to me, I don't think it's worth it.
Data caps!? Ugh that's annoying. 2024 and that's still a thing. Oh well. Like you said, if you tinker the settings it's not a big deal. I watch a lot on my tv so I love the high quality of 4k. It definitely depends on the screen you watch on. Phones/tablets? 1080p for sure. 55+ tv? Maybe it's worth 4k if possible.
@@thesahdstudio yeah dude. If data caps weren't a thing, I would totally enjoy 4k. But nope, ISPs are greedy. 4k gaming is a bit different though since that eats up a ton of energy on my pc, leaving me with a larger energy bill. Then there's input lag. fortunately threre's no bandwith issue with 4k gaming. If I had more disposable income, I wouldn't mind 4k.
The man in me LOVES the latest technology but I feel a bit better now with starting out with a camera that films in 1080 and not chase the 4k wave, trying to be "hip" 🙄. The woman inside me is having a hard time accepting getting older and maybe she'll appreciate not being so detailed in 4k right now 😂😂😂. BTW, I'm part of the 9.7% watching on a tablet and you look AMAZING 😎.
Haha great comment 👊 Yeah I totally hear you... and if it makes you feel better, if I had to start again right NOW, I don't know if I'd be chasing 4k as much as I would be chasing a decent lens/better lighting. It's nice to have but presents extra challenges so why bother, especially when you are just starting out.
Definitely! Especially if you are just uploading to RUclips. I mean I personally still record and edit on 4k because my equipment can handle it. But if yours can't, the quality loss really isn't that noticeable.
@jaysondronaarts I think I saw that you had Fuji camera? Haven't used for myself but I think I heard the autofocus isn't great in 4k? Is this one of the reasons why you would prefer to shoot in 1080p, as it has better more reliable focus?
No offense but its been 2 years and you only at 4.5k subs. Seems 4k is a very very very little part of growing a channel. Also didn't discuss if you wanted to back up your own videos. The amount of storage difference is huge. Plus all extra time sending larger files from camera to a computer and time uploading it.
This is my 2nd channel and I don't really put much work into this one or have a lot of interest in it anymore. And yeah, that's kind of the point of the video. Quality content is much more important than resolution, color grading etc
Seriously just think most content on planet Earth is viewed at 720p and mostly within the US. Online social media content is viewed at 480p, or 720p. YT has the option for 1080p which most YT channels provide but the majority of viewers just use 720p as they're just viewing content on their phones or tablets. 4K is not for viewing imo, it's for editing. Same for 8K and 12K. Both formats look terrible honestly. That's not the format's problems that's the size of pixels, screen size and how much our eyes can resolve at a given distance. Big studios will shoot 1080p then upscale to 2.5K 😅 or even 4K. They'll do different combinations, like shoot 4K then edit, then downscale. Just depends on what the story/production needs. Imo the perfect quality is 1080p with a high bit rate. 720p upscaled to 1080p is fine too as long as the bit rate is high enough. When channels use 4K they don't realize you end up getting a crap ton of artifacts on the viewer side. It's like I'm back in the 90s with those cheesy overly sharpened TV's 🤣
lol I know for me, I watch a lot of RUclips at night in 4k on a 55" OLED tv... so when content is done right (in 4k) it looks extra crispy and I LOVE it. I realize MOST of my audience does not consume content that way, but there's a bit of satisfaction knowing if someone puts my content on a big screen it will look nice. Is it worth the extra THOUSANDS of dollars for that when I could do what you're talking about in your comments? lol probably not. But it's fun to use the gear and I can finally afford it. Not required for growing a RUclips channel though.
I do as much as possible in 4k but I didn't invest in traditional 4k gear, such as DSLRs. Everything is shot on a Samsung S23 Ultra and Insta360. I decided to go 4K for the following reasons: Future proofing, better quality on desktops thanks to the additional 1440 stream that RUclips kicks out on 4k videos and for those watching my content on 4k TVs. But I agree that good audio, lighting, editing and above all decent content, are all more important than 4K.
Yeah I'm with you there... it's nice to know your evergreen content will still look good years later. Will it ever be watched then? Who knows. But I've had that in the back of my mind also. Thanks for the comment 👊
Well.... I also record in 4k and export in 4k. (A7IV) And there is another thing we both like: sharp images... I'll probably won't try 1080 to 4k rendering, but agree that if I'd need something in a budget, I'd buy something older but good and make it! See ya.
I don't think I'll ever need to record in 1080p again either but, it was fun to test! I wish I started on a different camera but here I am! What was your first camera?
@@thesahdstudio I first got a Canon SL3, but I sold it to pay kid's school. After that I bought a Sony A7C, spent 4 months with it and traded it with the A7IV. Right after I bought the ZV.
Ya kids are expensive, tell me about it!! How much better has the A7iv been vs the A7c? I was close to buying the a7c for long time but never did. It always seemed like a great lil' camera for what I do but thought the a7iv would just be better long term.
@@thesahdstudio Absolutely… I mean, even not being a pro, I think the A7IV is way more future proof than the A7C, not only because of the release dates between the two but also because of the features. For me, the A7IV shines over the A7C in two aspects mainly: 1. Obviously the 10bit 422 recording. Way better in post. 2. 4K oversampled from 7K (versus 6k of the A7C). It’s a small difference, but it’s there. Tell me about your experiences…
To answer your question, I would rather have some noise reduction on the walls behind you 😜 Great content though, and as you said, that's what matters!
Agreed! Since this video I have moved houses and changed my setup. I actually JUST released a video where I'm trying to get rid of that background noise with extra lights. It's not perfect but definitely better. Thanks for watching 👊
5:20 I'd shoot using either an APS-C or MFT and shoot in 1080p. Talking head, I'd rather have more depth of field than less. I think RUclipsrs are lazy, and you can tell by their lazy backgrounds 😅 Most overly use shallow depth of field in an attempt to pawn it off as Professional, Cinematic, or High Quality. No it's lazy. There's a reason why most pro videographers use an Arri Alexa with a sensor just wider than APS-C and 80% of movie scenes are shot with mid to deep depth of field. Photography being mostly self taught individuals is the reason there are so many differences in opinion. I say shoot with the camera you like, the lens you like, lighting, etc. But make sure the WHAT is the most important. What you shoot is a trillion times more important than what you shoot on. Here's why. The most expensive photographs known to man were from the absolute worse cameras known to man 😅 It's very very doubtful unless nft makes a jump that any image regardless of skill or digital high end camera will be worth millions. You could be Sails Chong the most amazing Chinese fashion photographer shooting on a Hasselblad H6D will produce an image worth $1m at auction. If you want to sell high ticket images, buy a film camera or a old digital camera. Paul McCartney shot hos album cover using a Casio watch 😅 ok, a 0.3mp camera 😭
Cool examples! I know a lot of us don't have the luxury/experience of trying out or knowing what lens/camera combo provides what effect... so we're all just kind of learning as we go and are chasing similar looks to the creators we think look great.
Not necessarily... it does promote higher click-through-rates (CTR) so every little thing you can do to increase that will help your SEO score. Having high quality videos I think does encourage people to stick around and doesn't hurt to future proof your videos. If RUclips has to choose between 2 videos that are virtually identical I believe they would want to promote the video of higher quality.
@@thesahdstudioyoutube promote 1080p because enhance artificial intelligence upscale bitrate fps high smooth 😊❤ youtube premium membership is way to earn run servers so 1080p is ❤ to save data storage time money
@@thesahdstudio What do you think about this take: 4k youtube content gets less relevant by the year. Society is shifting to a mobile consumerism. More and more people watch youtube on phones,tablets,laptops. On such screen sizes 4k doesnt matter. Is 4k renders for youtube worth the time ? Is it better just to stick to 1080p or maybe 2k?
Yeah that's good! I like the thought process. I do think they also want to focus a lot on streaming though too. I know there's lots of live channels (even just loft music / Christmas fires etc) which look in 4k... plus I watch a lot of Cercle concerts which have beautiful backgrounds running on the TV. So in those cases I always appreciate high quality. @@Kartalma
@@thesahdstudio Oh yes i agree. 4k should not fade out completely. Whenever i want to watch a documentary on nature or something i want to watch it in 4k on a large screen. BBC Earth looks stunning in 4k!
If all you're doing is "talking head" videos, a decent 720p bit rate is good enough, why would viewers waste bandwidth on talking head narration type content?
You're not wrong. I can't speak for others but I know I personally watch a lot of content on a big screen 4k TV and I always appreciate when the content has nice quality. Do MOST people watch it that way? No. But I like to watch and check out my own vids sometimes so, I'm guilty of letting my pride get in the way sometimes. Pride is expensive!
@@thesahdstudio lol, definitely, and bandwidth is expensive too, if what you're doing actually justifies watching the content in a higher quality stream, but as I said, talking head stuff, I often go all the way down to 360p, no sense in watching someone talk in 4k when both home wired and cell data limits can be hit quickly and are $$$$$
MR BEAST NEVER CHANGE 😂 HIS 1080P QUALITY VIDEO ARE SUPER BECAUSE HE GET MORE BEAUTIFUL IDEAS .BTW LOVE YOUR CONTANT I AM THE OLDEST VIEWER FOR THIS VIDEO 😂🤣😘
Hehe thanks for the comment! Yeah Mr. Beasts content is some of the beast out there. Glad to see he's absolutely crushed it and used his success for some really good causes.... all while shooting 1080p! I wish he uploaded in 4k though ;)
Most people watch youtube on their phones. At that size, there is no difference between 1080p and 4k. My phone's 1080p display has a pixel density of fcking 411 ppi. That's more than any PC monitor or TV that on an average have a pixel density of 200 ppi . So even a 1080p video will look way sharper on my phone than any 4K video on a desktop monitor or TV. So yes, for the vast majority of youtube viewers, 4k is pointless and unnecessary, because 411 ppi is way over the pixel density necessary to make a screen a "retina display" (where you can't make out individual pixels).
You know what's interesting? I have two channels... And on one of them, phone viewers make up about 40% of the audience, then on the other it's more like 70%. So I definitely agree with you, but it's worth checking the data. Since my one audience watches a lot on tablets, pc's, and TV's, and since I have the gear I like to make the videos in the highest possible quality. Is it necessary though? Probably not.
@@thesahdstudio Yeah, it might not be necessary, but shooting in 4k will definitely future proof your videos for the next 5 years and beyond. And like I said in my other comment, people might not notice the resolution on smaller screens, but the color quality does look much better with 4k, probably from the higher pixel density which gives you a better dynamic range.
Why do you think 1080p is best for irl? I think IF you can do 4k easily (with your camera/computer) it is nice to have that extra quality... just not worth it if your gear isn't good enough. But I do think 4k is best.
I came straight here from a Mr Beast video 😂 The editing style they use has a lot of fast moving shots in it, which isn't great for 30fps and it also isn't great for the 1080p RUclips compression. For me it very much detracts from the viewing experience, though I'm aware I'm in a small group of people that care this much about it. I very much appreciate your 4K crispness!
Haha, well thank you for noticing and appreciating it! I appreciate it too when I watch videos. It's hard not to want to emulate what he's doing because he's crushing SO hard... but he has a very different audience. And I'm sure they realize a lot of their audience watches the content on their phones where maybe higher resolution doesn't matter. I however like watching my vids on a big TV at night, so higher FPS and quality are what I enjoy!
@@thesahdstudiohigh fps is not matter 24fps 30fps smoothness low size high quality file compression matter for people data is not unlimited free for everyone it's paid for consumers
@@WILDFIRE69-r4i I sort of understand what you're saying. I like having the ability to have high quality when I want it but also being able to scale down into small files which RUclips does. It's pretty cool it can take a high res 4k 60fps video that looks amazing on an OLED tv but then allow people to watch it on their phone in 480p in potato quality for a tiny file size.
lol hey, I think it's nice to have great quality and take pride in your work. Would your audience notice a difference between that and shooting in 1080? Probably not. Still though... I'm with ya 👊
IF YOU do it Right.. It's Highest quality, with uncanny valley lighting and cuts. But subtle to confuse the brain and trap the viewer on a tiny screen! Like an HD photo analog Photo print flip book
Right?! It's hard... when you are a small creator you think "if my quality was better then maybe I'd be more successful!". Nope! It takes hard work and planning.
Who exactly watches RUclips in 4k? People on laptops? Generally no most laptops are 1080p or lower. People on phones? Absolutely not, most phones are 720p and pretty much all carriers downgrade video played on phones to well below 720p. People watching on TVs? Sure that very rare person watching YT on a TV may be watching in 4K, but seeing as at a comfortable viewing distance for watching a TV 1080p and 4k look identical it hardly matters if they watch in 4k because they are only seeing 1080p.... The fact is nearly all Hollywood studios still shoot in 1080p cuz it's easier to work in and the human eye cannot resolve detail higher than 1080p anyhow. In fact the 1080p standard itself was developed because scientific studies showed it was slightly higher than the highest resolution the human eye could resolve at a comfortable viewing distance from any size screen.
That's funny because every night my wife and I watch RUclips in bed... so I guess that's one of the reasons why I prefer shooting in a higher quality myself, because I notice the difference. But you're right, most people don't so it's not worth NOT creating content just because you can't do it in the highest quality.
Uploading a 1080p video upscaled to 4K doesn't add any pixel information. But it does change the codec RUclips uses when encoding your videos, and that codec is a better quality codec. Right click the video and check "Stats for nerds" to see the codec that was used to encode your videos. So that's why it seems to add quality when you upscale your videos before uploading.
Yeah it's interesting because a lot of people have commented that it also sounds better. So that better codec must include sound quality as well.
1080p DNxHR HQ uploaded on YT will get you a better codec :)
Seriously i love your channel and i am telling you content is always king, i have multiple videos that went viral and where shoot on 720p on a phone!!! So the best advice is to produce content that you love and gives value to your audience, you upgrade gear when you can and because you like it, not because of views! Great videos seriously keep it up
Thanks for the support 👊 I really appreciate it. And that's a great reminder about just making the video great no matter the camera. I think a lot of us create excuses for ourselves "I'll create content once I get a good camera" etc.... I know I've been guilty of that! I'm not going to lie though, it really does feel good to look back at a piece of work being about the quality 🤣
The last 3 years ive honed my photography skills on a 13 year old Canon t3i and convinced myself I needed a new Sony to shoot 4k video if I were to ever start my own channel. Fuck that, I'll just start. Appreciate the perspective!
Haha you are much wiser than I. Yeah honestly with good lighting and a decent lens, an older camera with 1080p would be JUST fine for growing a RUclips channel to 100k+ subs.
@@thesahdstudioI agree, don't think too high, do it over time, sorry for the spelling. I'm learning English.
Work with what you have!!!!
That's my motto
That is great content. Few years ago I had this dilemma when setting up my studio and found out good 1080 clean hdmi out can deliver sharper than most 4k cameras
For sure right? Similar with recording in 8-bit vs. 10 bit. Ultimately I ended up shooting in 4k 10-bit because I think it looks great to me but I don't think my audience would know the difference if I was in 1080P 8-bit upscaled to 4k on RUclips...
Jadi apakah lebih baik merekam dengan 4k upload youtube dengan 4k atau rekam dengan 1080 dan upload dengan 1080??
4:30 yup 😅 this is what Roger Deakins does for his movies 😅 He'll shoot in 1080p on a goddamn Arri Alexa then upscale to 2.5K. I think he now shoots 4K but that's like in the past 4yrs or so he's changed. Whenever 1917 came out, he decided to shoot 4K. He used to say the files for 4K were too big and unnecessary b/c he got the same or better quality from lower resolution then upscaling.
That's always interesting to hear. Even though I'm not making movies over here... that guy probably knows his stuff and if he doesn't need it...
The quality of my last 2 live-streaming videos on 4K vs. my 1080p videos is night and day. I played the video on my 4K TV, and the difference is very noticeable. It's not something you have to do. Since I livestream, it does not affect my file size since I am not saving it on my computer at the time. I post to RUclips, and that's it. I also noticed a difference between my phone and my iPad. The video looks much better. I am unsure if this will help me generate more views in the long run, but I feel good about having better quality.
Yeah I'm with you. I shoot in the highest quality possible because I watch on a big 4k TV too. It definitely doesn't help grow the channel but it's nice to have confidence in the quality.
Great video as always. You are a natural at this. Sharpness can be overrated, especially when you want something to look more "cinematic". In fact I think for the longest time cinema cameras were shooting in 2 k and uploading to 4 k. Most REDS have a very soft 4K. Hyper realistic is actually the opposite of "cinematic" so a softer video, with inaccurate colours and shot in a lower frame rate (24P gang!! :p ) will look more cinematic. The same has applied to photography for a long time which is why many photographers would search to find and use old classic lenses that are soft and imperfect compared to the clinically sharp modern lenses. And ultimately yes, content matter more than anything else.
Camera Conspiracies has never had great looking video (imho respectfully) but his content is usually so good that I would rather watch his stuff over say, Tony Northrup or Gerald Undone.
The only real benefit to higher resolutions is for larger screens and greater viewing distances. And yes, as you said, most people watch videos on RUclips, on their phones... and yet RUclipsrs love to knock cams for not having the sharpest 4K image, or "only 8 bit"... when the final output is going to be in highly compressed 8 bit RUclips videos viewed on mobile formats 99.9% of the time.
PS. I've actually never watched a Mr Beast video....
Great points! I thought it was really interesting when you mentioned that everyone tries to changes their colors to get that "cinematic" look... and you're right. It's almost hilarious how people buy the most accurate gear only to then bring it in a completely different direction. To be fair I do realize that good gear essentially gives them more clay to sculpt so to speak.
Also I wanted to say thank you for your kind words and support. I had some momentum with my Sony FX30 video but a couple days after that video the RUclips algorithm has come down hard on my channel and videos. I followed it up with what I thought were some good videos but the views have almost flatlined (despite good keyword research / topics). It's very discouraging. I'm not looking for sympathy or anything but I just want to remind you that you just saying "great job" really goes a long way for small creators like me. I really appreciate that and I'm sure others do as well.
Have a great weekend!
Enjoyed this video. Keen observations. Your channel is small now but you've got it. Great voice, appealing personality and something of value to say. Subscribed.
Aw, thank you for the support. It is really appreciated! It is slow going growing a RUclips channel but I'm all in. Got all sorts of stuff coming down the pipes! Look forward to chatting.
I agree. Me too.
This gave me a lot of insight on how I should record and render my videos with the equipment I have. Thank you and Happy New Year!
and for anyone else reading this be sure to comment on videos and be active in the community. Those interactions usually come back to you.
Glad you found the video! 👊 Happy New Year to you too! Hope 2025 will be an awesome year for ya.
I'm not a content creator but as someone that watches a whole lotta youtube, I def appreciate the higher quality stuff.
Right? Me too. It's tough though because we get so used to these channels with insane quality, so then when we find a smaller channel that has good content it's hard not to be like... this looks like crap lol. But that might just be me because now I'm super sensitive to everything in every video I watch now... the lighting, the angles, the clarity etc..
It's almost like when you try nicer wine then you can't go back to the cheap wine you used to enjoy. I almost wish I never tried the nice wine (bought better gear) lol.
@@thesahdstudio I'm the same. I'll give you a perfect example that you can see for yourself just by doing a search here on RUclips. Lately I've been looking for Brazil, Colombia, and Thailand nightlife videos. There's tons of good content out there but they all look like crap with the low lighting. But there is this one guy that uses good gear and he stands out above the rest. But guess what? The content isn't even that good LOL. He basically walks around town filming and doesn't say anything. From the looks of it he doesn't get fancy with any editing. Writes a few sentences in certain clips. He has over 200k followers!! Basically he found something people are interested in and films it with good gear and he's successful. It makes sense.
Ya that Is interesting. 200k followers!!! Jeez. I can't imagine! Sometimes people just find their niche I guess
Cuando tenga una comunidad que al primer día me deje 30k vistas, ahí recién invertiré para 4k
Hehe I hear that! 👊
Nice video and robot dancing! I record on my iPhone 14 Pro Max in 1080p with just the celling lights on and have NEVER had anyone complain about my video quality. BUT uploading in 4k? New to me... looking into it!
Thanks! lol. Yeah you know what, your quality looks just fine! It sure is impressive what kind of footage you can get from those Pro Max iPhones. Tinkering around is fun but don't waste too much time on it. Getting the story / thumbnails / headlines that's the stuff we need to spend the real time on 👊
0:33 You could start by focusing less on the video, which looks good and crispy btw to that horrendous audio. The echo is instantly noticeable
Oh yeah, I've had issues with echo as I keep moving my studio around and it's tough to sound treat the rooms I'm in... it's tough. I can use voice isolation with Davinci Resolve which really helps though, but sometimes I forget. It's tricky to get good sound sometimes without making the room look like a recording studio.
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I'll also add that due to most people viewing content at 720p or 1080p that there's also a feeling going on emotionally while viewing at the more common resolutions. 4K doesn't mean better, and 720p doesn't mean worse.
For sure man. I talked about frame rates and instead now of thinking one is better than another. I see them as different tools to help tell the story. I think the same can be said for resolutions.
Volume producers have gone to the shoot in 1080 upload in 4K model for work flow and storage reasons
Yeah storage could be a huge issue depending on the codec... It's always interesting to hear what the pros do and why.
This video is really helpful. Thank you. I'm in the process of uploading my first video to RUclips. I'm finding it takes a LONG TIME to upload in 4K. Next time I am going to try 1080p. Thanks for all your suggestions. PS I have a Sony ZV 1 Mark II camera which I really like.
That's a nice little camera! Glad you found the video. Yeah it's a lot of extra hoops to go through to shoot in 4k, and like you said, it takes time. It's fine if you have the gear but it's not worth the rush to get the gear until you really start making money.
@@thesahdstudio I did a lot of research before buying my camera (Sony ZV 1 Mark II) and I'm glad I put in the time and effort. It's definitely a camera I can grow into as a beginner.
I am a note-to-color music theorist who started making re-mix videos and music videos because I started getting good at documenting my own music perceptions. I did a series of three Sia music videos, and on the last one (just today) I decided to upload a video saved as 4k and a 1080p save, but both in private mode (unreleased). This means that I do not SHOOT if 4k, I only upload the video as a 4k vs 1080p file. Because I work with found-footage off the internet. Or shoot using Snapchat characters, with is not 4k by any means.
So my advice here applies to SAVING and UPLOADING a file as 4k. // I compared each of my uploads back to back in two different uTube windows. I was SHOCKED to find that the 4k was more crisp and detailed. Also, the audio was also slightly deeper and more resonant. For the audio I use very high-qualtiy studio headphones (Sennheiser HD 600's), so they were able to show very clearly the difference.
All this being said, because I am doing very artistic type of videos, for me uploading in 4k is suddenly crucial for me. I am lamenting that I uploaded all of my past videos as 1080p. YET, if someone is going a live Podcast in a talk-show situation, or stuff like this, I think 1080p would be fine. ALSO, the better audio quality of 4k (as far as my ears told me), could be seen as insignificant once you play the video/audio in your car on on your home stereo. My equipment is high-end studio stuff.
In closing: my experiments with 4k uploads in post-2023 showed results of WORSE quality. So, uTube must be processing/compressing 4k videos better now. Bottom line, if you upload in 4k your video will be slightly more crisp, and your 1080 will be fuzzier. If you have show-off visual video, it might be a good idea to upload in 4k. HOWEVER, I am working on a Macintosh, and using (and saving the videos) using Final Cut Pro--a Mac based program. Everything I just told you might possible ONLY apply to Final Cut Pro MAC users! Ha.
Hope this gives some insights as far as uploading is concerned. And, incidentally, my new Sia video can be found a the top of the page here at:
_The Acoustic Rabbit Hole!_
Thanks, everyone, and thank you to SADH Studios for making some very important videos!!!
Thanks for sharing your experience. And cool video!
I too have found it's best to upload in the highest quality possible, even if your gear doesn't quite support it... so if your camera only supports 1080p, like you were saying it's still worth it to upload in 4k.
It's tough to look back at older content and wish things looked better but if it wasn't the quality it would be something else... when I look back at my older content, even though the quality is decent, my lighting or white balance is off, or I edited the videos different then. Only moving forward should we keep optimizing the content.
Keep it up! 👊
seriously my past lower-rez stuff actually looks good even SVHS but then i went all out highq 4K but now going w 1080 for standard since i noticed most of the time coudntell diff -- IT'S ALL ABOUT MORE LIGHT = INCREASES QUALITY! btw this nxt part is a joke: "uwannastep up shoot only jpeg pics use that as footage (use comics 4 storyboards -- even use TEXT for narration) -- this is all in original device app then export in the lowest rez so its so crappy no1 knows what the orig raws were then tell them u shot in 8k exported into VHS then redigitized it then upscalled it 2 16k then printed it on an old pinslot printer frm the 50s then put it on a canvas paint over it then burn it in a bonfire. good times"
Haha... I agree with the more light = better quality for sure! I don't understand the rest of what you were talking about though 🤣
RUclips video compression gives every resolution the same ratio of bitrate. So, if you upload a 1080p video to youtube at 4K it will have much more bitrate after compression and so it will look much cleaner.
Also recording video at 4K improves quality a lot. Video recording with a camera is not the same thing as rendering a video digitally. When you record at 4K rather than 1080p, the camera sensor will recieve much more information and videos will look better than recording at just 1080p.
Yeah I have noticed improvements in things like audio just by uploading in 4K etc... still things like better lighting and microphones would improve quality of content besides strictly upping the resolution, but if you can do both you'll likely be better off!
I shoot in 56fpm 1080p because the 4K on my Canon RP is practically unusable. Maybe I'll try to shoot in 1080 and upload in 4k and see what happens.
I think that's a good plan! The autofocus etc is good in 1080p too on that cam right? I'm sure it'll look good enough for RUclips for sure.
Wow I am so glad I found your channel! I film a combination of Vlogs and talking head videos about my life here in El Salvador 💙 🇸🇻 and I try to provide the best image quality for my viewers but have always questioned these settings as I've upgraded over the years.
My main camera is my phone Samsung s22 ultra, though I also use the dji osmo action and mini se drone. I have been shooting in 2160 60 fps on both my phone and action but the highest my drone will do is 2720x1530 30fps so when I edit I downgrade the other footage to match my drones settings 2720x1530 30 fps and I export it and upload to youtube like this as well with mixed results. I use filmora x to edit and would love to edit and upload in 4k but I'm not sure my laptop can handle that though filmora offers an edit with proxy option now I've been too scared to try 😅.
In your opinion is it worth editing in 1530 (kind of like 2k) or should I film and edit in 1080 or bite the bullet and try proxy files at 2160?
Proxies for SURE! My kids are off school for the summer and it's really hard for me to create videos at the moment (plus we just moved!)... but my next video for this channel is literally talking about this. I will do my best to get that out this week so stay tuned! I use DaVinci Resolve but I'm sure it's similar (and easy!). Don't be scared. Do it!!
1080p is enough for almost 80% of the channels around IMO. Is the channel a vlog-podcast, drone footage etc then 4K
Yeah it's hard to disagree with you. I personally watch a lot of RUclips on big screen TV's so I appreciate the quality myself which is why I try and offer the highest quality possible... but nowadays a lot of gizmos upscale content anyway so it makes 1080p look almost as good anyway!
@@thesahdstudio part of the blame is on tiktok, where people just watch anything in any quality as long is 30sec..
You gotta a good channel here, you deserve more subs
@@Darth_yoyo Good call. I mean I guess it's a good reminder that good content outweighs good quality.
And thanks for the support! Really appreciate it 👊
@@thesahdstudio subscribed!
I think the standards are just not the same. I'm sure whatever 1080p comes out of Beast's channel is not the same 1080p that comes out of my channel. RUclips prefers his content over mine and gives him more bitrate. Bitrate, not resolution, is what matters at the end of the day. How do you get RUclips to give you the most bitrate at 1080p. Do you get better 1080p quality when you have 4K available? I don't know tbh. For my videos I need every bitrate I can get because so much is changing in the scene all the time that it artifacts a lot. My sweet spot is 1440p right now but not sure how that'll change in the future. I'm still experimenting.
I feel like yes, if you upload at 4k it looks/sounds crisper. A lot of commenters have said when they export their 1080p at 4k then upload they notice both an improvement in the look and sound. Might be worth a test?
@@thesahdstudio But do they mean it improves their look and sound in 4K or 1080p? People who only have 1080p screen (majority?) won't playback in 4K. So I try to maximize looks in 1080p playback. For my when I upload in 1440p in looks worse in 1080p than had I uploaded straight in 1080p. I would also get the premium 1080p option potentially. It's hard. I feel like people switching to 1440p or even 4K when they have 1080p screens may only be a small techy minority. I remember my super social media savy friend didn't know you could playback videos faster...
@DariusOutdoors well I think 4K scales better down to 1K than 1440p. I feel like it gets a higher quality bit rate but there are some settings you can check for youtube uploads so you might want to double check that.
I decided early on I wanted 4k for my tiny channel. The reason is I look back at old videos on a LOT of YT channels and most are shot at 720p or lower and it looks AWFUL on my 32 monitor or even worse on my 60 inch TV. Less than half of my views are from monitors or TVs but that's still a chunk. And that could go up in time though. Also I watch a lot of YT on my 32 inch 4k monitor and I much prefer watching 4k.
I'm right there with you my friend. A lot of people watched RUclips on their phone... At 480p or some type of potato quality. But I don't. And I want to make sure when I watch my content in 10 years from now that it still looks good. Which is why I paid a little extra for my gear. Is it completely necessary? Maybe not. You could probably get away with running something in the middle like some high quality 1080p with a good lens... But if you go for the extra effort I get it..
I found this video in the nick of time. I was just about to leave the house to purchase…SOMETHING 🤷♂️ after watching an obscene amount of camera comparison vids over the past 2 weeks.
I’m starting with my iPhone 14 Pro Max as a main camera for talking head vids; But I’m going CRAZY trying to figure out what to use for a secondary camera.
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Haha I'm glad you found the video. I know that feeling all too well. Your iPhone is just fine to get started on. What do you need a second camera for?!
@@thesahdstudio Well…update…I just purchased a Canon M50 Mark II on eBay for a number of reasons. I can still use my iPhone for other ideas as well. It’s go time! 😃👍🏻
@michaelyolch79 Oh that's a fun little camera. Are you just going to use the kit lens for now?
@@thesahdstudio Yes!
Resolution is not very important, but bitrate is, and RUclips serves 1080p videos at a much lower bitrate than 4K videos. I was just watching one of MrBeast's latest 1080p videos on my QHD (1440p) monitor, and it looks awful due to compression artifacts. That's why you saw an improvement when you uploaded a 1080p upscaled to 4K. I used to select 1440p resolution when available on my old 1080p monitor for that reason.
Exactly! With 4K uploads RUclips allows different containers which uses higher quality audio. I often find the audio sounds better at higher "res" and now I know why.
The thing I like about videos shot in 4k (even when watching in 1080p) is that the higher resolution and pixel density gives you a better dynamic range. So the colors look a lot more realistic. The colors in videos shot in 1080p on the other hand look pretty washed out in comparison, and the brighter areas look overexposed.
Yeah me too. I definitely find whenever I can bump up the quality on a video it makes the viewing experience that little more enjoyable. I think when you have the trained eye you notice it that much more. My wife on the other hand couldn't tell you the difference!
That's all because of compression. If you watch 10-bit 4:2:2, 1080 vs 4k, the colors will both be the same. Resolution doesn't mean different dynamic range unless the platform, like RUclips, makes it that way.
@@cameronmcgehee Wouldn't chroma subsampling on 4:2:2 in 1080p vs 4k give you more concentrated colour in higher res? If 4 out of every 8 pixels is coupled (subsampling) and 4k has 4 times the the resolution, then the 4k should still have way more concentrated colour (on a 4k screen)? I'm still learning this stuff.
@@thesahdstudio Note that I come from the world of broadcast and not cinema. So that might be the basis for all my biases below.
I'm not sure what you mean by "concentrated". From what I can think, all you would get is lower resolution...because it is lower resolution. So, if something in your image went from total black to total white over two pixels in 4k, it would not show that in 1080...it would just show a gray pixel where the nearest pixel is in the lower resolution (if downscaled - if it was native 1080 you could of course generate a white next to black - think graphics).
I could be slightly wrong though since this is also not a topic I have researched too much...because it really isn't that big of a deal to me. I have no reason to spend extra to make my whole workflow 4k. I do live productions, so the camera needs to output 4k, then the cable or transmitter needs to support 4k, then the router needs to be 4k, then the switcher needs to be 4k...the CG needs to be 4k, the media playback needs to be 4k, the ISO records a insanely huge, the stream encoder needs to accept 4k...all to broadcast over a network that cant support anything but a 720 and maybe a 1080 stream! Then I need to spend more time encoding the recording file that ends up being so huge my client's drive can't fit it.
I prioritize
1. Shoot a good shot of a good scene
2. Color information
3. Bitrate
My standard for master copy of something is currently 1080 59.94p, 10-bit 4:2:2 rec709, ~50-60Mbps.
@@cameronmcgehee It's really interesting to hear your side based on your experience. From what I've learned the 4k with 10 bit should look nicer even with subsampling but it's not a huge deal unless you see it side by side.
Thanks for sharing all that!
Thank you. Just bought a Gopro. Between this fantastic video and Chris Tomshack , 8 gb vs 16 gb Mac computer . I have found my way into $ easing my way into a hobby I may or may not be good at. You are a very valuable asset !!! Gracias , Retired in Ecuador. Imported technology is much more expensive here.
I'm glad you found the video! And LOL... yeah whether or not any of us are any good I can say for sure that it's a lot of fun and something to do/learn which just makes life more fun.
So you're just waiting for your new computer to show up? How exciting! Let us know how it us 👊
1080p rendered in 4k is what i learned by accident a while ago. So what i do is i film everything in 1080p and just render 4k to make it look sharp. And you're 1000% right about content over quality of pixels. 👍🏻
Learning by accident is such a fun way to learn! I was really surprised when I did that myself. Thank you for watching and the comment. Appreciate it!
@@thesahdstudio looking forward to more a7iv videos from you
As I'm a noob so it'll be good to learn from you about it.
What software do you use to achieve this? I always assumed exporting 1080p in 4k will look crappy
I am team DaVinci Resolve! They have great free version too. Yeah you know it surprised me also. The results just look fantastic and I'm looking forward to playing around more with it in the near future for fun. See if I can trick some people huehuehue
So it's okay 1080p to export in4k?
anyone remember Fox TV show with Seth McFarlane's the Orville. I think it was broadcast in 720P but it always looked better than any other TV show for OTA broadcast. better than all 1080i. the video was crisp and played at true 60FPS
I'm not familiar with it but that's interesting... they were really shot at 60 fps you think?!
Well said. Totally agree. Wrestling with whether I need a computer to process 4k video (ZVE-10). In my test yesterday, FYI, 60fps at 50M in HD was sharper than 40k at 24fps at 50m. Faster to process, sharper image. Interesting. Of course, other factors. But. Proved interesting. Appreciate your video/opinion.
Glad you found the video! And that is interesting. There are so many factors to consider, and I think as you feel more comfortable with your camera/gear, you can choose when to use what effect since they are all unique in their own way when it comes to story telling. Finding the right computer is trick! Took me quite awhile as you can probably tell from looking at my recent videos 😆
If you look at MarkusPix videos, dude shoots and uploads in 1080p but his footage always looks crispy, like you wouldn't be able to tell if it were 720p, 1080p, or 4K. He's also right b/c 4K while great for editing purposes is ugly in terms of viewing. You can't even properly view 4K unless you have a giant screen.
I haven't watched much of him but looks like he's got some nice gear! Interesting on his talking head video he's shooting at 60fps too. But I saw in another one he's shooting at 30. That's cool to see him bounce around.
Thank you, Mr. Sad. :(.
As a new hobbyist videographer, I was just wondering if I must upload my content in 4K. I'm not doing this for any money, just for the enjoyment, so I'm not sure the extra time it takes to upload 4K is even worth it.
It's a good question... and there is no right or wrong answer. I WILL tell you this... MOST of the people who watch my content only watch it in 1080p or less despite the fact I offer 4k. I personally watch content on a 55" OLED tv so I appreciate when content is in high quality but hey, I don't mind if it's only 1080 as long as it's good content.
Content first THEN quality. If you can do both that's the best!
@@thesahdstudio Thanks very much for taking the time to share your thoughts!
I like to watch videos with the highest quality setting because it gives you more bitrate. I think it was called bitrate. But because of that fast moving things wont look as pixelated.
I like to watch the highest resolution too 👊
Just subbed! This was really insightful, thank you!
Awesome! Welcome aboard :) Have you/are you planing on creating content?
I watch RUclips primarily for information and entertainment as long as the video quality is good enough to see what I need to see. I don't care about it being any better.
Also I'm lucky if I can watch a video at 720 without it buffering like crazy so 90 percent of the time I have it set to 480. If you aren't shooting something like national geographic content I don't know why anyone would deal with the extra editing difficulty and storage space requirements that come with 4k. Most movies are done in 1080.
Yeah I hear you. I think that reflects what most people on RUclips do also.
I personally watch a lot of RUclips a 55" OLED tv so I really appreciate the higher quality efforts and try and put in that extra effort for my own stuff. We're our own toughest critics right? Does anyone care but me? No. Do I feel proud when I see my content on a big 4k screen and it looks good? A little!
...not to mention the computer processing and storage requirements for working efficiently in 4K.
And that's a really good point... it's a completely different beast for a lot of reasons. It's bigger SD cards, bigger hard drives, faster CPU's/GPU's, newer monitors... it's everything! $$$
I think it depends on your content. I do an outdoor walking channel and I shoot everything in 4k and upload as 4k because the scenery is all I have got to offer.
Yeah I hear you... and I agree. I think some channels really benefit from higher quality BUT the point remains that the idea/concept for each video needs to be thoughtful and to answer the viewers problem/curiosity.
Thanks for the breakdow, very helpful vidoe. I will stay with my 1080P piece of shoot and maybe do something about lighting first!;)
Awesome, glad you found the video!
Yes lighting and lenses really make the biggest differences when it comes to quality... it's crazy!
What are you using now for a camera?
@@thesahdstudio hey! I am using a sony slt-37 dSLR, its around ten years old. I only have one lens 3,5-5,6, 18-55 (still trying to grasp what that means). Working on understanding my current equipment before expanding. Any suggestion on what lense to expand with to get the most out of it? If I have to define the use, I would say for relatively close range, cooking videos to start.
@@chef285-b4w So unfortunately I don't really know much about your camera or that lens mount. It's an older system and my knowledge is more with newer gear (mirrorless). Heck, I'm not sure what phone you are using but that could always be an option as well... perhaps you can try both your camera and phone and see which quality looks better. I love the Sigma 16mm f1.4 as a value lens but I'm not sure if they make it on that mount. Not sure if you've watched my latest video talking about a RUclips Studio Setup but that video might help give you an idea of what gear you need to get in which order. The last half explains the priority. Check it out if you get a couple minutes!
I would argue it's more about youtube than 1080p itself. If you film in 1080p then export it in 4K it still looks very good. Take for example Netflix, watching HD content still looks perfectly good, and actually all films are rendered down to 2K (wide 1080p) from 4K anyway. I prefer 8K over 4K, don't get me wrong, but when filming people/yourself resolution isn't that important, but that extra detail gives much more headroom for cropping in or mist filters and other addons that might turn a 1080p footage into dreamy, too soft image. As a wildlife videographer every bit of resolution is important, whether it's video or photo as you can comfortably crop in when needed without losing resolution. Heck, I'm waiting for the slightly affordable 8K@60/120fps camera to upgrade next mostly for that, and for having 33.2MP stills that no one believe that they're video frames. I send people a7sIII 4K frames and they don't believe their eyes and we're talking about 8.29MP, even 1080p video frames from my camera (2.1MP only!) look 10x better than photographs made by most of smaller sensors like phones.
Yeah you are right that crop factor is huge for a lot of people, and, like you said, scenes with lots of detail really benefit. I'm still surprised and slightly amazed at the amount of people that still have 1080p TVs though... At least in my life and friend circle. For me watching things in really high quality is such a satisfying experience but it's not that way for a lot of other people.
@@thesahdstudio You should put in mind that not all people have good vision, nor watch TV aside from regular TV channels, that are mostly still 1080p, and movies that look perfect in 1080p. To me I can easily see the difference between 8K and 4K which is staggering. It's literally watching 33.2MP images in motion!
What kind of screen(s) do you have?!
@@thesahdstudio Nothing fancy, 2015 LG 4K (cheap) LCD, and 2016 4K HDR Sony X70D (budget as well). Planning to upgrade but too much camera gear to buy first.😅
So it's okay 1080p to export in4k?
What if I want to film in landscape and then edit another video from the footage for shorts and Instagram? Croping and editing 4k will not lose any video quality will it? Will 1080 lose quality to do this. I want to make 1 video and use it for RUclips and then a cropped version for insta. Possible at 1080? A new laptop and software for 4k is costing a fortune!
I think it should be fine at 1080p. Obviously you'll have more space to crop with the 4K file but since most people look at that content on tablets and phones anyways as long as it's good content nobody will care.
3:41: I laughed hard. That's exactly me! At the moment I'm trying to figure out if I should upload in 1440p or 2160p (4K).
I mean, if you can upload in 4k without it being a huge strain on your camera/computer I say do it. But if no one on your channel is complaining about it then hey just keep doing what you're doing right?
@@thesahdstudio Well, my files get pretty big. Like sometimes over 200 gb. Sometimes it takes 12 hours to upload them.
@@HowBigistheMap Over 200 gb?! What the fluff! What res is that at?
@@thesahdstudio 2160p. Bitrate: 120 Mbps. Vidoes of 3 or 4 hours long. When I made a video of 5 hours, I have to change the resolution to 1440p otherwise it's over RUclips's limit of 256 GB.
dude.. for real, at the moment im struggling to get my mind together in this thematic :D i was sure to go with my FX30 then i saw your APSC vs. FULLFRAME COMPARISON, i was directly going to search up some good used or retoure FX3's on some websites, now you showed that Mr. Beast clip and this brought me back to reality :D
To answer your question: im just in the beginning but i have to say, that in all im pretty happy with my Sony FX30 in combination with all my amaran Lights.. its more like a lack of skill to use all of it how i should. Im trying to get a more "cinematic Talking Head style" because the storys im going to tell will be much more dramatic and kinda Horror, in a dark Setup with Red lights in the focus. but still i wanna go with the 4K without ND, Smog, or Mist filters, i will try what looks good with the VST named "Scatter" it simulates any Filter in a very accurate way, you should check that one ;) and 4K just to get the Highest quality. You always can grade/edit it more cinematic, blurry etc, but a lower quality... no chance, details are gone.. greetings
Hehe I know right? It's tough trying to get the right gear. Obviously it'd be great to shoot full-frame with a nice fast lens but it ain't cheap. What lens do you have with your FX30?
And yeah I mean you gotta shoot 4k. Beast does he just downscales it but it still captures additional information which makes the overall images look better.
Do your best not to have over-analysis paralysis though you know? Nobody is really going to care in the beginning except you. You have a nice little camera there. Just get a fast wide lens (f1.4 if possible) and do your best. Add more light then create spooky effects in post to keep your video sharp if you need to or if the color isn't good enough in low light.
Look forward to checking it out!
Yea it was not like "lets buy a decent Camera, some LED´'s" and film some high quality cinematic Videos hehe. I was just buying a Sigma 16mm F1.4 :) its a pretty good one, and i also own a Sirui 35mm anamorphic f1.8, but this Sirui is more to play around.
The correct lighting will help me yes, just needs some time testing around :) keep up@@thesahdstudio
Great video and comparison!
Thanks man! Appreciate it 👊
Well you got my sub, wishing you the best of success with your efforts! Great information.
Aw, thanks for the support and welcome aboard!
Audio > 4k
1080p with good lighting is good enough imo, especially for a talking head video.
4k makes a bigger difference in the outdoors, especially with trees and foliage, but still, you could probably do fine with 1080.
Another downside to 4k, is having a powerful enough PC to edit them, and if you want to store all of your footage, you'll need a lot more storage. And considering most users might watch on a smartphone, not have a proper 4k device to notice all the details, or not even be able to stream 4k properly, I'll argue 4k is overkill.
I agree with your points, for sure. The one thing I will add though is that, as a creator, sometimes pride is involved. Your RUclips channel almost becomes a resume... and if you want people to eventually work with you, you want to showcase your abilities and inspire confidence in those parties to let them know that if they choose to work with you, you will offer excellent quality. Do you know what I mean? For me, as I continue to grow I know companies will reach out and want me to review their gear... and the better my quality looks, the more they might want to work with me. This is what I tell myself anyway and why I probably overspend lol!
If you film in 1080p and upload the video in 4k can you still store the footage as 1080p to Dave space?
That's a good question and I don't know. I imagine the footage has smaller bitrates and will be smaller overall regardless of the resolution. I imagine it will save space to store yes.
Also broadcast even today still ooutputs 720p 😅 They do push 1080p and 4K on some stuff but most stuff is still 720p or 1080p
Yeah you're right... smaller resolution requires less data which is always nice. And like you're saying there is a point of diminishing returns on certain screen sizes.
i'm curious why not use a camcorder? I have an older Canon Vixia HF G10 and quite like this line of prosumer camcorders. I'm no expert here but have read a ton of blogs that basically say camcorders are more suited for recording longer videos and that cameras that record video either can't record long enough or subject to over heating or lack key features when shooting video vs taking photos. Example, having an external monitor. Maybe the lines are more blurred now a days (2023) but if this topic is worth covering, I'd appreciate seeing this topic discussed or some PROs and CONs highlighted. Just found your channel, love your content!
This is a great question. I had a HD Sony camcorder back in 2010 and I think the problem was, at least in my case, it didn't age well. That and the lack of interchangeable lenses, it felt very limiting.
Nowadays though, I imagine they are a lot better... But a camera body I can pair with the lens of my choice, it's just fun! Plus buying and selling used, I can play and it doesn't really cost me anything.
I'd Love to Tinker with a camcorder though now. Good call! If I can get my hands on one I will make a video for sure!! Welcome to the channel. I just didn't the last few months moving so I haven't been super active but I will pick it up once the kids go back to school in the fall!
@@thesahdstudio thank you for writing back and great point about the interchangeable lens. Not to turn this into a Canon advertisement but wish to point out that the vixia does have threads on the end of the lens that you can attach adapters too and for some of my close ups I attach a macro lens. I know this is not the same as swapping out a whole lens like you describe. Anyway, I could go on here but I'm really trying to decide to stay with camcorder or look at cameras that shoot video as my next upgrade. Thanks for making great videos, your editing and lighting look so professionally done! Off to see if you have videos on this too :)
@@revealingfacts4all I guess my question to you is, why are you deciding to upgrade? What about your current setup do you feel like is lacking or you want to improve?
I think the hybrid cameras are just so versatile, it gives users a lot of freedom to be creative however they'd like. With that being said, even though I have an a7iv, I really don't use many of those features available to me... sometimes I just put it in A priority mode, auto iso, auto white balance and go, and luckily with a good lens, it's pretty easy to get away with and have my footage still look good. There are so many fun lenses to play around with as well as picture profiles. Do the camcorders have picture / log profiles built in?
I like knowing my quality is good, but what is the difference in quality between this and something like you've got? I'm sure one could pixel peep but at the end of the day, it's your story and content that matter most.
I've been able to buy and sell enough used gear to get to a point where I appreciate my 4k mirrorless camera and somewhat know what I'm doing. Early on I got a A7iii with a G-master 16-35mm lens and had no clue what I was doing. I sold it then started with something small and worked my way back up.
We all want better gear but just shooting and learning is what's most important. That and having fun!
I'd still like to know more about camcorders though!
@@thesahdstudio my reasons are (1) camera has no built in ND filter and newer ones do. I found by using a screw on ND filter works but not as nice as having one built in. (2) my camera no longer charges batteries through the power adapter so I had to purchase a 3rd party battery charger. (3) the hot shoe is proprietary and I think a hot shoe mounted light would improve my videos; currently I use no external lighting options (newbie here). (4) having a 2nd camera to use with my current one would allow getting different shots simultaneously reducing the workload but admittedly this is more about having FUN with more cameras lol. thanks, again, for your insights. Agree with you, not a pixel counter nor do I use many of the camera's cinematic/creativity features that much that they are a deal breaker but I sort of have this weird thinking that is I'd like to have it and not need it rather than need it and not have it - to a point though. Thanks again!
If you record in 1080p, how do you render to 4k?
Well you literally just choose 4k when you are rendering your video with enhanced bitrate. Usually your software will do it's best to upscale the footage and often times it looks nicer. Worth at least trying out if you see it.
@thesahdstudio I will definitely give it a try. Thank you!
I would much rather have high bitrate 1080p than 4k on youtube. 1080p is fine for most content, but after youtube compresssion looks absolutley horrible. Using all that bandwidth on a higher resolution _and_ bitrate, rather than allowing to focus only on bitrate really sucks.
Yeah I hear you for sure. I've definitely learned that some scenes really show the compression artifacts worse than others. I used to just have nice flat backgrounds with a gradient from the light, but in those gradients it looks really choppy and noisy. The more stuff in the background seems to look better in my experience. There's so many factors I guess I'm realizing... but you are right. More bitrate is better.
@@thesahdstudiobut compressor compression important to download fast and save data storage time of you're device 😊 streaming online free fast ❤
video is super informative but the ending was like damn so cute...lovely stuff
Aw thanks! Appreciate it 👊 always fun when the kids join in.
The funny thing most of us don’t have hi speed data to watch in 4K in Asia or most non 1st world countries. So yeah at end of the day 1080p is the way.
That's a really good reminder. I would still upscale to 4k if I could just for those few who watch on big screens but, it doesn't really matter. If the story is good they will still watch!
I shoot in 1080 with a Canon G70 and upload in 4K
A camcorder?! That's really interesting. What made you decide to get that?
Do you shoot in 1080p for smaller sizes/easier to work on files?
Yes I shoot in 1080P for the smaller size files. My camera does shoot in 4K but for RUclips you really don't see a difference. Once I'm done editing the video I will render it to 4K. I like the video camera as it has great auto focus. I have a few other cameras but I always go back to the Canon. I've attached a video so you can see for yourself. ruclips.net/video/vhc2pgb_Co4/видео.html
Looks good! And fun channel 👊 @@Livinglifeat60
i upload gaming content on other account should i record it in 4k or stay on 1080p
Are you doing 1080p 60fps now? I think 60 fps is probably the most important part. I guess it depends if you think it looks better. I'm sure the 1080 is fine... And maybe 4K 60fps while screen recording might be a little too hard on any computer? You could upscale it when you're exporting it to 4K. I can't think of any reason not to do that?
I hate that he don't upload in 4k it's trash, especially if you experienced 4k. Most people who will give have money and they expect quality. I don't have money like that but appreciate quality so much I take great enjoyment out of seeing the world in a better picture 💯
If I don't see a video in 4k and you have they skills for it ,editing, speaking,ideas, its almost obsolete if you don't take the next step to become greater or in my opinion the greatest.
It's all fun I'm games but to be 1 of the best that does it ,is it and you have to know if you do ,if you don't help someone who does have it and teach them there true potential. This video is a good example of this . Professional advice with example and very good quality thank you.
Thanks! I'm right there with you. Plus I often watch on a big 4k TV and really notice/appreciate quality. It's crazy his channel still doesn't.
Sound, good storytelling, lighting and good photography, in that order, is more important than 4K (which actually isn't important at all)
I always find it interesting when people have audio as #1. I put it a little lower on the list with story-telling being #1 but I agree that video quality is near the bottom.
@@thesahdstudio I put it as number one because you can bare rubbish image quality, but bad sound, you turn off immedietely. You'd have to be pretty darn interested or invested in the story to bare poor sound. That's why sound is number one.
Wow... Insightful thoughts..👍
Thanks my man! Been thinking a lot about it lol
I subscribed to you because you shoot in 4K and your content is good. In an equal playing field where you weigh story over quality, a story always wins, but the story alone will lose to a good story plus good quality. If you are going to create great stories, might as well shoot in the best quality possible. I shoot with GFX 100S for all my travel pics, 100mp, overkill? Yes for now. But when I take photos for memories, I'm future proofing in for my great-grandchildren in the future. Yeahs, in today's world 100mp is overkill, how about in the future world? I don't know about other people, but when I take photos, I intended it to last a lifetime or even beyond that. Most people complain it takes too much space in hard drive, but then again, storage is cheap. I'm not printing my images, I intend to keep in in digital format for as long as I can.
We speak the same language my friend! Although my wife does NOT speak that language haha. It's very hard to convince someone why you need to shoot in high quality when they just don't understand.
Welcome aboard! And I know nothing about that GFX 100S, it looks incredible! I take it you are very happy with it? What lens is on there right now?
@@thesahdstudio I'm happy with it, but not VERY happy with it because autofocus could have been faster on some lenses. But if you come from DSLR background, you'll feel that it's a substantial upgrade. They have very wide selection of lenses surprisingly. My favorite one are 110 (87mm) F2, almost a perfect lens optically, the 80mm (63mm) 1.7 is not bad but the autofocus is a little slower due to the stepper motor. But for travel, I pretty much shoot with the 20-35mm (16-27mm) F4 lens and the 32-64 (25-50mm) F4 lens.
So why are you a Fuji person? I do not have a photography background... So when it comes to video it seems like they've always been pretty behind as far as autofocus goes. The colors look great though.
@@thesahdstudio I'm not a Fuji person, I use Fuji GFX for some of my photography work, just ordered the A7RV for a more portable system to take photos of my other half and I have A7SIII and Red Komodo for videos (mostly budget glass from DZOFilm. Wanted to get the Red Raptor but the price is kinda steep for what I want to invest in. Wished I had gone Canon route because I could have shared the RF glass together with the Red Raptor. I mean, it would still work with the DZOFilm but just couldn't justify the price. As for Fuji, I've not tried the APS-C models but from the GFX line, it feels alot more solid than any Sony I've used.
Great video! Very informative!
Thank you for watching! It's funny, even though my laptop is only a 1080p screen I still edit and export in 4k. Crazy how you can even do that!
Funny you talk about a nice big aperture 1.4 lens. Which cannot resolve 4K to begin with. The best lenses are always the ones 1-2 stops dimmer than the most wide expensive one. They usually arre as sharp at F4 as the 1.4 at F8.
I miss a real big part of the process: editing. Doing 24p1080 is such a breeze when editing. You can even do it on a Core2Duo. And backups are way smaller. Last benefit of 1080p is the environment, with 90% watching YT content on 720p or less, why have the datacenters process 4K?
What do you mean the f1.4 cannot resolve 4k? I'm still learning this stuff so I'd love to know what you mean.
Yeah editing in lower bitrate is so much easier right? These 4k files get bigggg.
Also, I do think there's a difference in bokeh and sharpness though and most of us are chasing that blurry background. I do think it's noticeable even in lower HD formats.
I don't think that way tho, we've seen a big increase in viewers, who watch youtube on tv, I think it's around 45%, so it's almost half of the users. If you take into consideration that 4k TV as well are increasing, even in poorer countries, then you can imagine that in about 2 years 4k will be the standard. the moment I switched my tv and my monitors for 4k devices was life changing tbh. I can't even watch 1080p videos anymore on bigger screens bc the lack of crispness. you can even see the difference in 1080p to 4k upscaled footage, which is not surprising tbh. on mobile it's a different story tho, still, users tend to switch to bigger screens when watching their favourite youtubers. so in the end, you'd want to switch to 4k anyways, except you're mrbeast :)
@@tomacaroni Nah, if AI can turn Rick Ashley VHS footage into 4K, why bother editing all the gigabytes yourself? In 10 years our TV's will contrive the missing pixels. It would be cool if you could limit destinations as YT creator, make video's work on sub 30 inch screens only for example,
@@tomacaroni Hey I'm right there with you... If you can do it, you should... if you can't, do worry too much about it, just get good!
Do you get paid extra to upload in 4k
You definitely do NOT!
1440p is already good enough. But in most cases I don't watch the video and only download an audio part.
I watch this video in 480p and have no intention to choose higher quality.
Yeah fair enough. I watch a lot of content in bed on my 55" OLED tv so I really appreciate high quality videos personally. But when watching on my phone, who cares!
Content and " especially" audio quality are also paramount....
Yeah a lot of people really put focus on audio quality. It seems to me as long as you're room isn't too echoey and you are relatively close to your microphone that seems to be good enough for RUclips. At least while starting out.
@@thesahdstudio Having charisma and magnetism is probably the most important thing alongside fresh and interesting content . There are youtubers who just use a an iphone 13 , 14 and 15 etc and have many multiple hundreds of thousands subscribers..... So number 1 is the person Imo . having the x factor.
I still shoot with original pocket cinema cam. I shoot raw and upscale. That camera looks better than any sub 7,000 dollar camera any day.
Nice! Did you buy it used? Just wondering how/why you picked that up in the first place. That'd be fun to play with.
You know when I watch a movie made today everything looks crispy very color full, than I rewatch the bad,the good & the ugly all that dusty old image, old color and I say this is real, like go and watch the new Dune, the realism should be there but it's not, it's still in the old Dune even if it dosen't match the book perfect. And another thing with all that quality they still have blur behind, same with your video all that focus on your face but the backround is a blur, that's annoying to the eye, don't know if it's from the cam, from the editing, if you watch mr beast videos there's no blur behind him in old or new videos. And then it comes to color like in the old movies, go watch min 3:55 your $3000 camera it's to overcolored, the blur is there behind you. And it's not me picking the image it's the eye, and belive me blur, color can trigger the brain, the helth, as a gamer I can tell you from when I was young & super healthy there was one game because of the bad color, the blur will make me sick motion and that was quake 2
I think as one gets better as a videographer or creator with some camera skills... eventually you realize each frame rate, each aperture, each colour profile is a different way to tell a story. None are right, and none are wrong... but in the beginning a lot of people don't realize when to use each one, and in the example you gave me about that footage (with the Canon) about it being oversaturated... that was just me not fully understanding how to use that piece of gear / software.
I think it's great to use all the tools depending on the story... and good directors and producers do this! Everything Everywhere All At Once is a great example of a film that understands this and bounces between even different aspects ratios.
It's a funny journey learning and getting good at RUclips. I'm trying to share as I learn so others can get better from my experience AND mistakes!
My best performing video is 1080. 4K definitely looks better IMO and I love it. I started out using a GoPro then switched to a Sony Alpha so I could shoot with a better lens and in 4K. I've made quite a few video using my iPhone 14Pro and they look just as good as my $2k camera. The only difference is the boka from the lens and the ease of use pulling the video files off an SD card as opposed to pulling them off the iPhone
Those are some good points and make for interesting conversation. At the end of the day what you are saying is what a lot of us who have channels eventually realize in that, while having good gear gives you great confidence to make quality videos... nobody cares. As long as what you have to say is interesting, that is BY FAR the most important thing. High quality video is just the icing on the cake... because like you, I also appreciate it. So when I see small creators with good content AND good quality, I'm like, nice job!! I appreciate it.
@@thesahdstudioexactly
I watch on my phone,
I can't tell until RUclips lowers the quality to 480p.
Most phones settings it seems don't default to 4k. And loading 4k on a phone can take to long. Sometimes streaming and not waiting to load is more important than 4k. Also the story matters more to me. Anything better than 480p! Oh new shaky footage please.
I didn't even realize that my Samsung s21 screen is locked at 1080p. I feel like a couple years ago they were really pushing 4K and high resolution screens on handheld devices until they finally realized that not only does it kill the battery faster but the file sizes are bigger and people chew through data way more.
So yeah might as well watch it in lower res unless it's something you're really paying attention to and want to look slightly better!
@@WILDFIRE69-r4i that seems like a killer value phone. It still good in 2023?
@@thesahdstudio I am watching your video in my phone 2160p 30fps it look very much more sharpen then 1080p it's also support
265 hevc higher efficiency codec
@@thesahdstudio yes but vivo not give updates 😂 I stuck in Android 9 only that's why sometimes iphones and Samsung is good because it's give operating system update latest version
@@WILDFIRE69-r4i 😂 yeah that's a good point. I've had my Samsung S21 for awhile... it's good and it seems secure (enough updates). I don't see any reason to upgrade. The screen is fine for the size... for now! But that's interesting you even notice the difference in quality on that size screen.
what software do you use to upscale 1080 to 4k?
I use Davinci Resolve. It's incredible! A bit of a learning curve but the sky is the limit. There are some really great creators offering Resolve tutorials on RUclips also. Plus the free version works really well.
I shoot in 1080p and upload in 1080 p. The issue is the storage.
Yeah that's a big factor too you are right! Working on 4k files turns my laptop into a jet engine also... Lol
If i shoot a video in 4k then upload it in 1080 it looks better than if i upload the same video in 4K.
Why?
That's really interesting! I'm not sure, there's a lot of different things going on like bitrate, compression, what codecs you're using etc... I don't know what your render settings are. Something weird is going on!
I for one will actively downgrade any 4k video to 1080p... Main reason is because I have cox internet and they have data caps...
DATA CAPS!!! The higher the resolution, the faster I hit that cap and have to pay extra. so 1080p is what I'm going to keep all resolutions at. Gaming, videos, EVERYTHING! If the quality is good enough at 720p, that would be even better.
I don't want to pay extra just to see the pores in someone's face, and as long as I stay at this resolution, I go nowhere near my data cap. higher resolutions easily chew through my bandwith and to me, I don't think it's worth it.
Data caps!? Ugh that's annoying. 2024 and that's still a thing. Oh well. Like you said, if you tinker the settings it's not a big deal. I watch a lot on my tv so I love the high quality of 4k. It definitely depends on the screen you watch on. Phones/tablets? 1080p for sure. 55+ tv? Maybe it's worth 4k if possible.
@@thesahdstudio yeah dude. If data caps weren't a thing, I would totally enjoy 4k. But nope, ISPs are greedy. 4k gaming is a bit different though since that eats up a ton of energy on my pc, leaving me with a larger energy bill. Then there's input lag. fortunately threre's no bandwith issue with 4k gaming. If I had more disposable income, I wouldn't mind 4k.
The man in me LOVES the latest technology but I feel a bit better now with starting out with a camera that films in 1080 and not chase the 4k wave, trying to be "hip" 🙄. The woman inside me is having a hard time accepting getting older and maybe she'll appreciate not being so detailed in 4k right now 😂😂😂. BTW, I'm part of the 9.7% watching on a tablet and you look AMAZING 😎.
Haha great comment 👊 Yeah I totally hear you... and if it makes you feel better, if I had to start again right NOW, I don't know if I'd be chasing 4k as much as I would be chasing a decent lens/better lighting. It's nice to have but presents extra challenges so why bother, especially when you are just starting out.
I wish he uploaded in 4k too
What does he mean “over produced”, his whole thing is over the top production value
Haha exactly!! I feel the same way. I watch his stuff on big screens too. The extra resolution would be appreciated.
So it's okay 1080p to export in4k?
Definitely! Especially if you are just uploading to RUclips. I mean I personally still record and edit on 4k because my equipment can handle it. But if yours can't, the quality loss really isn't that noticeable.
@@thesahdstudio i can shoot in 4k
@jaysondronaarts I think I saw that you had Fuji camera? Haven't used for myself but I think I heard the autofocus isn't great in 4k? Is this one of the reasons why you would prefer to shoot in 1080p, as it has better more reliable focus?
@@thesahdstudio I really don't know yet
No offense but its been 2 years and you only at 4.5k subs. Seems 4k is a very very very little part of growing a channel. Also didn't discuss if you wanted to back up your own videos. The amount of storage difference is huge. Plus all extra time sending larger files from camera to a computer and time uploading it.
This is my 2nd channel and I don't really put much work into this one or have a lot of interest in it anymore. And yeah, that's kind of the point of the video. Quality content is much more important than resolution, color grading etc
@thesahdstudio ahh ok that makes more sense
Seriously just think most content on planet Earth is viewed at 720p and mostly within the US. Online social media content is viewed at 480p, or 720p. YT has the option for 1080p which most YT channels provide but the majority of viewers just use 720p as they're just viewing content on their phones or tablets.
4K is not for viewing imo, it's for editing. Same for 8K and 12K. Both formats look terrible honestly. That's not the format's problems that's the size of pixels, screen size and how much our eyes can resolve at a given distance.
Big studios will shoot 1080p then upscale to 2.5K 😅 or even 4K. They'll do different combinations, like shoot 4K then edit, then downscale. Just depends on what the story/production needs.
Imo the perfect quality is 1080p with a high bit rate. 720p upscaled to 1080p is fine too as long as the bit rate is high enough.
When channels use 4K they don't realize you end up getting a crap ton of artifacts on the viewer side. It's like I'm back in the 90s with those cheesy overly sharpened TV's 🤣
lol
I know for me, I watch a lot of RUclips at night in 4k on a 55" OLED tv... so when content is done right (in 4k) it looks extra crispy and I LOVE it. I realize MOST of my audience does not consume content that way, but there's a bit of satisfaction knowing if someone puts my content on a big screen it will look nice.
Is it worth the extra THOUSANDS of dollars for that when I could do what you're talking about in your comments? lol probably not. But it's fun to use the gear and I can finally afford it. Not required for growing a RUclips channel though.
I do as much as possible in 4k but I didn't invest in traditional 4k gear, such as DSLRs. Everything is shot on a Samsung S23 Ultra and Insta360. I decided to go 4K for the following reasons: Future proofing, better quality on desktops thanks to the additional 1440 stream that RUclips kicks out on 4k videos and for those watching my content on 4k TVs. But I agree that good audio, lighting, editing and above all decent content, are all more important than 4K.
Yeah I'm with you there... it's nice to know your evergreen content will still look good years later. Will it ever be watched then? Who knows. But I've had that in the back of my mind also.
Thanks for the comment 👊
What do you edit that 4k footage on? I use the Samsung ultra 23 also but a laptop at 4k edit seems to be costing me bucks!
Well.... I also record in 4k and export in 4k. (A7IV)
And there is another thing we both like: sharp images...
I'll probably won't try 1080 to 4k rendering, but agree that if I'd need something in a budget, I'd buy something older but good and make it!
See ya.
I don't think I'll ever need to record in 1080p again either but, it was fun to test! I wish I started on a different camera but here I am! What was your first camera?
@@thesahdstudio I first got a Canon SL3, but I sold it to pay kid's school.
After that I bought a Sony A7C, spent 4 months with it and traded it with the A7IV. Right after I bought the ZV.
Ya kids are expensive, tell me about it!! How much better has the A7iv been vs the A7c? I was close to buying the a7c for long time but never did. It always seemed like a great lil' camera for what I do but thought the a7iv would just be better long term.
@@thesahdstudio Absolutely… I mean, even not being a pro, I think the A7IV is way more future proof than the A7C, not only because of the release dates between the two but also because of the features.
For me, the A7IV shines over the A7C in two aspects mainly: 1. Obviously the 10bit 422 recording. Way better in post. 2. 4K oversampled from 7K (versus 6k of the A7C). It’s a small difference, but it’s there.
Tell me about your experiences…
To answer your question, I would rather have some noise reduction on the walls behind you 😜 Great content though, and as you said, that's what matters!
Agreed! Since this video I have moved houses and changed my setup. I actually JUST released a video where I'm trying to get rid of that background noise with extra lights. It's not perfect but definitely better.
Thanks for watching 👊
@@thesahdstudio yep I found out adjusting my shutter speed helped a lot. Also more light of course, but lights cost $$$
5:20 I'd shoot using either an APS-C or MFT and shoot in 1080p. Talking head, I'd rather have more depth of field than less.
I think RUclipsrs are lazy, and you can tell by their lazy backgrounds 😅 Most overly use shallow depth of field in an attempt to pawn it off as Professional, Cinematic, or High Quality. No it's lazy.
There's a reason why most pro videographers use an Arri Alexa with a sensor just wider than APS-C and 80% of movie scenes are shot with mid to deep depth of field.
Photography being mostly self taught individuals is the reason there are so many differences in opinion.
I say shoot with the camera you like, the lens you like, lighting, etc. But make sure the WHAT is the most important. What you shoot is a trillion times more important than what you shoot on.
Here's why. The most expensive photographs known to man were from the absolute worse cameras known to man 😅 It's very very doubtful unless nft makes a jump that any image regardless of skill or digital high end camera will be worth millions. You could be Sails Chong the most amazing Chinese fashion photographer shooting on a Hasselblad H6D will produce an image worth $1m at auction. If you want to sell high ticket images, buy a film camera or a old digital camera. Paul McCartney shot hos album cover using a Casio watch 😅 ok, a 0.3mp camera 😭
Cool examples! I know a lot of us don't have the luxury/experience of trying out or knowing what lens/camera combo provides what effect... so we're all just kind of learning as we go and are chasing similar looks to the creators we think look great.
It's the amount of time it takes to upload it and the getting to 95% 3 hours later and it abandons it! YIKES!
Oof yeah that's frustrating! Hmmm, it shouldn't take that long... We should talk about your exports settings :)
Does youtube promote 1080p more than 4k
Not necessarily... it does promote higher click-through-rates (CTR) so every little thing you can do to increase that will help your SEO score. Having high quality videos I think does encourage people to stick around and doesn't hurt to future proof your videos. If RUclips has to choose between 2 videos that are virtually identical I believe they would want to promote the video of higher quality.
@@thesahdstudio thanks for taking time to respond
@@WorldHayes-VR Anytime 👊
@@thesahdstudioyoutube promote 1080p because enhance artificial intelligence upscale bitrate fps high smooth 😊❤ youtube premium membership is way to earn run servers so 1080p is ❤ to save data storage time money
4k only matters on smaller channels so youtube uses the better compression. On established channels youtube already uses the best compression.
Interesting take!
@@thesahdstudio What do you think about this take: 4k youtube content gets less relevant by the year. Society is shifting to a mobile consumerism. More and more people watch youtube on phones,tablets,laptops. On such screen sizes 4k doesnt matter. Is 4k renders for youtube worth the time ? Is it better just to stick to 1080p or maybe 2k?
Yeah that's good! I like the thought process. I do think they also want to focus a lot on streaming though too. I know there's lots of live channels (even just loft music / Christmas fires etc) which look in 4k... plus I watch a lot of Cercle concerts which have beautiful backgrounds running on the TV. So in those cases I always appreciate high quality. @@Kartalma
@@thesahdstudio Oh yes i agree. 4k should not fade out completely. Whenever i want to watch a documentary on nature or something i want to watch it in 4k on a large screen. BBC Earth looks stunning in 4k!
Yeah that's interesting. Thanks for sharing!@GameVortex-nz3hs
interesting, thank you!
Glad you found the video! 👊
If all you're doing is "talking head" videos, a decent 720p bit rate is good enough, why would viewers waste bandwidth on talking head narration type content?
You're not wrong. I can't speak for others but I know I personally watch a lot of content on a big screen 4k TV and I always appreciate when the content has nice quality. Do MOST people watch it that way? No. But I like to watch and check out my own vids sometimes so, I'm guilty of letting my pride get in the way sometimes. Pride is expensive!
@@thesahdstudio lol, definitely, and bandwidth is expensive too, if what you're doing actually justifies watching the content in a higher quality stream, but as I said, talking head stuff, I often go all the way down to 360p, no sense in watching someone talk in 4k when both home wired and cell data limits can be hit quickly and are $$$$$
2024/11/3 he stil using 1080p 30fps!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lolz! Crazy.
MR BEAST NEVER CHANGE 😂 HIS 1080P QUALITY VIDEO ARE SUPER BECAUSE HE GET MORE BEAUTIFUL IDEAS .BTW LOVE YOUR CONTANT I AM THE OLDEST VIEWER FOR THIS VIDEO 😂🤣😘
Hehe thanks for the comment! Yeah Mr. Beasts content is some of the beast out there. Glad to see he's absolutely crushed it and used his success for some really good causes.... all while shooting 1080p! I wish he uploaded in 4k though ;)
Most people watch youtube on their phones. At that size, there is no difference between 1080p and 4k. My phone's 1080p display has a pixel density of fcking 411 ppi. That's more than any PC monitor or TV that on an average have a pixel density of 200 ppi . So even a 1080p video will look way sharper on my phone than any 4K video on a desktop monitor or TV. So yes, for the vast majority of youtube viewers, 4k is pointless and unnecessary, because 411 ppi is way over the pixel density necessary to make a screen a "retina display" (where you can't make out individual pixels).
You know what's interesting? I have two channels... And on one of them, phone viewers make up about 40% of the audience, then on the other it's more like 70%. So I definitely agree with you, but it's worth checking the data. Since my one audience watches a lot on tablets, pc's, and TV's, and since I have the gear I like to make the videos in the highest possible quality. Is it necessary though? Probably not.
@@thesahdstudio Yeah, it might not be necessary, but shooting in 4k will definitely future proof your videos for the next 5 years and beyond. And like I said in my other comment, people might not notice the resolution on smaller screens, but the color quality does look much better with 4k, probably from the higher pixel density which gives you a better dynamic range.
I upload 4k because my phone is a 4K res.
When it comes to irl, 1080p is best.
When it comes to games, 2,4,8k is best.
Why do you think 1080p is best for irl? I think IF you can do 4k easily (with your camera/computer) it is nice to have that extra quality... just not worth it if your gear isn't good enough. But I do think 4k is best.
@thesahdstudio 1080p is just as fine but in irl, I think 4k is too much process.
4k works with gaming videos because of the clear experience.
I think he know something we don't about youtube algorithm
I think he knows something about the RUclips algorithm RUclips doesn't know about!
I came straight here from a Mr Beast video 😂 The editing style they use has a lot of fast moving shots in it, which isn't great for 30fps and it also isn't great for the 1080p RUclips compression. For me it very much detracts from the viewing experience, though I'm aware I'm in a small group of people that care this much about it. I very much appreciate your 4K crispness!
Haha, well thank you for noticing and appreciating it! I appreciate it too when I watch videos. It's hard not to want to emulate what he's doing because he's crushing SO hard... but he has a very different audience. And I'm sure they realize a lot of their audience watches the content on their phones where maybe higher resolution doesn't matter. I however like watching my vids on a big TV at night, so higher FPS and quality are what I enjoy!
@@thesahdstudiohigh fps is not matter 24fps 30fps smoothness low size high quality file compression matter for people data is not unlimited free for everyone it's paid for consumers
@@WILDFIRE69-r4i I sort of understand what you're saying. I like having the ability to have high quality when I want it but also being able to scale down into small files which RUclips does. It's pretty cool it can take a high res 4k 60fps video that looks amazing on an OLED tv but then allow people to watch it on their phone in 480p in potato quality for a tiny file size.
mr beast has millions of subs...it doesnt matter what he uploads in...cant really use him as a comparison
I hear you. My takeaway is that doesn't matter what anyone uploads in as long as the content is good.
This was great!😅
Thanks for watching! Glad you found the video 👊
I use 4k video on my shorts
lol hey, I think it's nice to have great quality and take pride in your work. Would your audience notice a difference between that and shooting in 1080? Probably not. Still though... I'm with ya 👊
my camera can shoot 4k, but i have older computer with old hard disk, so i'm 1080p and i'm happy.
That's awesome. Yeah 4k presents so many more challenges for such a small upgrade most people will never notice.
IF YOU do it Right.. It's Highest quality, with uncanny valley lighting and cuts. But subtle to confuse the brain and trap the viewer on a tiny screen! Like an HD photo analog Photo print flip book
Side note Future words are weird ( hd photo... Lolzz
Hehe yeah I like covering my bases with quality. It's nice to know things will look good even in the future you know?
hopefully one day AI upscaling will get so good that we'll be able to watch anything in a higher resolution and it'll look seamless
I like that idea... I wonder if that would be doable with framerate as well hehe. One can dream! I just like the buttery smoothness of high framerate!
I do care about a interesting content, no matter if is 720! My phone always runs utube videos in 360.
Right?! It's hard... when you are a small creator you think "if my quality was better then maybe I'd be more successful!". Nope! It takes hard work and planning.
Who exactly watches RUclips in 4k? People on laptops? Generally no most laptops are 1080p or lower. People on phones? Absolutely not, most phones are 720p and pretty much all carriers downgrade video played on phones to well below 720p. People watching on TVs? Sure that very rare person watching YT on a TV may be watching in 4K, but seeing as at a comfortable viewing distance for watching a TV 1080p and 4k look identical it hardly matters if they watch in 4k because they are only seeing 1080p....
The fact is nearly all Hollywood studios still shoot in 1080p cuz it's easier to work in and the human eye cannot resolve detail higher than 1080p anyhow. In fact the 1080p standard itself was developed because scientific studies showed it was slightly higher than the highest resolution the human eye could resolve at a comfortable viewing distance from any size screen.
That's funny because every night my wife and I watch RUclips in bed... so I guess that's one of the reasons why I prefer shooting in a higher quality myself, because I notice the difference. But you're right, most people don't so it's not worth NOT creating content just because you can't do it in the highest quality.