Underrated video, i am leveling a palidn rght now on atlantiss and yours tips are helping me a lot, pala its very funny on tbc because 3 specs are completly good and viable. Nice content man
every guide i've clicked on is talking about leveling as if you have T3 and a shitton of gold and shit. Like bruh I quit wow classic in phase 3 I wanna level a belfpaladin tell me how that works
@@DozleZabi if you're starting fresh quest in ghostlands/draenai island until 20. Spec prot, when questing make big pulls. Find a group for sfk if horde and then go to SM when able. Find a group for stockades if ally then find a group for SM when able. Sit in SM till early to mid 40s then go to ZF until about 50. Do BRD xp runs around the ring until 55ish then just farm strath UD. If you can't find groups then what you want to do is look for areas that you can quest in and kill a lot of undead/demon mobs so you can nuke them with exorcism and holy wrath. Go to out lands at 58 and just do quests. Best option is just spam LFG as a tank. Level doing dungeons. Then when 70 back track and do all quests you missed for extra gold.
@@BurneyBurnerson From who? Mages won't be able to boost like they could. They can't pull more than 10 mobs without having the AOE cap screw them, and there won't be paladins available to boost yet.
@@PcGAMEr877 It’s an interesting statement for a few reasons… 1.) 100 Strength (Combining every piece of Tier 2.5) only provides 5 additional block value (for a total of 106 compared to 101 with the Redemption set) 2.) The lack of agility provides the largest difference sitting at +3.23% dodge chance wearing Tier 2.5 3.) While that is the case, the Redemption set provides an additional 499 Armor, 653 HP and 960 Mana. It also provides an additional 47 MP5. These increased values allow for more efficiency in runs 4.) There is a difference of 68 spell damage in favour of Tier 2.5; however, the increased healing from Tier 3 would generally outweigh that. Tier 3 also reduces the cooldown on Lay on Hands AND allows for a 200-instant heal every time Cleanse is used appropriately The Redemption set is, believe it or not, superior to the Avenger’s set.
Humans like information and having an advantage so to speak. But your interest in something you don't play I cannot answer, maybe you like the world but not the game?
Honestly video contains many wrong information. For example about rep priorities, if you play prot pala in tbc your main priority after dinging is revered with keepers of time. You get best in slot weapon and pants from it, tanking head enchant and couple useful items from dungeons quests. You dont need so many spd gear at beginning because you have more impotent priorities - crit/crush caps and only after that you go for spd stacking.
If we compare the two weapons from each Quartermaster, we'll see that Honor Hold's is in fact better than Keepers of Time. The only downside being that Honor Hold's requires Exalted while Keepers of Time requires Revered. So, Keepers of Time is FAR from BiS weapon for tanking. In fact, Crystalforged Sword is a MUCH better tanking weapon and it's BoE. Throughout your leveling experience, if you complete a few runs of Escape from Durnholde and Black Morass, you will likely be at Revered if not very close, so the importance of prioritizing this reputation at 70 is not high on the list. I presume by "spd" you mean spell damage? - You shouldn't stack spell damage at any time, regardless of your defensive stats since 200 is more than enough to start Karazhan and new gear will only provide more and more. You should be stacking stamina after reaching defence/crush cap.
@@swiftjuice168 Crystalforged Sword added in patch 2.1, so it may not be available on start of classic tbc. Hellfire sword have more spell power, but less stamina, so it's better for threat, but not overall. After you reach crush cap you should have both sets - mitigation and threat. But that's another story because at this point you will be raiding t5 and i guest you don't need that's sort of guides.
@@pavlosegeda8294 We're likely to start at 2.4.3 It has 17 less stamina - hardly an amount to sacrifice additional threat for. You shouldn't worry about having multiple sets of gear since most of our spell damage comes from our weapon and as we progress in Tiers, we have increased amounts on our armour, as well as higher levels of mitigation.
My method is like, judge sow on one mob put new sow on, gather 4ish more mobs and cosc/holy shield dem down till the seal is about to run out then a pick a new fresh mob and repeat. Allways keeping 4-6 mobs on me and managing my mana so a never have to drink. When needed you will have to trow in some improved holy light Have you tryed anthing like that?
Just a bit confused on a couple of things. Hoping you can set me straight. You said "strength is kind of a useless stat for prot paladins", and you said int is a lot better. But then you said to point into "Divine Strength" instead of "Divine Intellect". Why wouldn't you take divine intellect if strength is useles? Also, why no seal of the crusader/ vengeance for single target? Like, you didn't even mention the spell once, but all the guides I've read say for single target to start out with a seal of judgement then into seal of vengeance and put its judgement on the target if noone else has. Are you assuming someone else is putting up the debuff?
Lets say you want to be powerleveling with a paladin in the first few weeks of TBC and you haven't raided because you are leveling it now. What gear would you recommend. You could include quests rewards from the first few zones of TBC.
Have a full list for you... Helmet - Underworld Helm from "Beneath Thrallmar" (Quest is available to both factions but may have a varied name) Required Level = 58 Neck - "Diana's Pearl Necklace" from Stratholme (Cannon Master Willey - Live Side) or "Medallion of Grand Marshal Morris" which is a BoE that shouldn't cost too much on the AH nowadays. Shoulders - "Polished Obsidian Pauldrons" are BoE and pretty nice if you can afford them on your server. If not, "Lightforge Spaulders" from Blackrock Spire are a nice alternative. (Darksoul Shoulders/Stockade Pauldrons are nice, too, and BoE, but they may be pricey)
Cloak - "Redoubt Cloak" if you can complete a Dire Maul Tribute Run. If not, "Shifting Cloak" is an epic BoE. "Cloak of Fire" is a BoE that has an AoE effect. Chest - Fire Scarred Breastplate from Disrupt Their Reinforcements (Same quest for Alliance and Horde) Required Level = 58 Bracers - "Lawbringer Bracers" can work just fine. If you can't buy them, "Fel Hardened Bracers" are quite fantastic as well and they drop from Dire Maul.
Hands - "Darkrune Gaunlets" are probably the best even with a low amount of Stamina and are BoE. If you can't buy those, I would stick with "Deathbone Gauntlets" and they drop from Scholomance. Waist - For this, I would just recommend "Deathbone Girdle" from Scholomance. Legs - "Flintlocke's Piloting Pants" from "In Case of Emergency..." (Both factions) Required Level = 58 Boots - "Golden Cenarion Greaves" from "Natural Remedies" (Both Factions) Required Level = 61 (Group Quest) If not, "Deathbone Sabatons"
Rings - "Rune Band of Wizardry" (Blackrock Spire) and "Band of the Steadfast Hero" (Scholomance) Trinkets - "Regal Protectorate" or "Vengeance of the Illidari" ("Cruel's Intentions" - Horde and "Overlord" - Alliance) and "Charm of Alacrity" ("Voidwalers Gone Wild" - Both factions) Weapon - "Sedai's Blade" from Makuru's Vengeance (Alliance) or Source of the Corruption (Horde) Required Level = 60
Shield - If you can, "Skullflame Shield" is quite amazing for either objective but it's got quite the price tag sometimes. If it's not possible, "Draconian Aegis of the Legion" from Blackrock Spire with a Thorium Shield Spike would do just fine. Libram - "Libram of Hope" from Dire Maul East. It's from the summonable boss, but I imagine there'll be plenty of people that can summon it.
Is there anything I can start trying to grab now in Classic that would benefit me going into Kara? I know some items are great all the way to Kara for other classes such as DFT, Nelth Tear, Brooch, etc.
@@JosCleland It's a VERY good item for tanks, absolutely. It provides about 3.05% Block Chance / 8.44 Defence Skill along with some block value. Other than that, not a lot of items are going to stand the test of time from 60-70 and then into Karazhan. You nailed it.
@@Zorbodorb “Glyph of Deflection” is a good trinket. Would I say it’s ‘huge’ for dungeon grinding? Unfortunately, no. Because of its Block Chance (1.52%) being lower than that of “Styleen’s Impeding Scarab” (3.04%) we’d look solely at the Block Value (23 + on-use of 235 for 20 seconds) Assuming we’re discussing level-appropriate dungeons and mobs, your chance to block is not as high as if you were farming or boosting - in other words, your block value will mean less since you’re only able to benefit from it as long as you’re actually blocking attacks - which is generally useless against caster mobs. The class to benefit from “Glyph of Deflection” most would be Warriors since their Block Value increases their “Shield Slam” damage.
I generally like your videos but think the information in this one is wrong. I've played a paladin through TBC multiple times and the most efficient way to level prot, by far, is to be pulling large packs and AoE-ing them down. You shouldn't be taking points in reduced healing pushback as you can't avoid (most importantly block) during casts, which means you're taking more damage and not dealing Holy Shield damage. Illumination is wasting 5 points on some mana regen for when you're healing; for this to be useful you need to be taking enough constant damage to warrant healing yourself and you need to be running into mana issues. Those two points mean spending 5 points in Strength, which is only really useful for single target, is contrary to what the spec is actually good at. If anything, take intellect. In total that's 15 points spent on healing and in-combat mana regen (that you only get when healing yourself). Those 15 points are much better spent in the Prot tree on avoidance and Improved Holy Shield. When you actually have mob competition, and even in leveling gear, you should be finding it hard to pull enough mobs. Survivability will never be an issue leveling as prot.
I think we're looking at efficiency. Hellfire questing gear isn't as powerful as raiding gear as an entire set and thus won't provide you with the same level of efficiency.
They need to release paladin and shaman to the opposite factions about 2 weeks before TBC as a 'pre patch event' so to not split up gaming communities and leave people playing an MMO on their own while everyone is in outland.
Good video as usual Meta :3 but I’ll have full Retri gear as that’s what I raid as ( Will be levelling with Might of Menethil or corrupted ash ) so I’m guessing in my case levelling as retribution will be better due to the gear I have access too ?
You dont need avengers sheild as a prot pally. TBH I actually dont take the talent. Threat doesnt change much with/without it and its a HUGE mana sink. Just not worth. Walk in. Drop your consecrate, put up holy shield. count to 8 then tell warlocks.mages to go ham GG
tbh I'm also not a fan of it. While leveling you could make some small use out of it when you do a bop pull or something. However it is quite useful for finishing off enemies who run away in fear.
Why not just stay holy and wear tier 2-3 gear and enjoy healing dungeons while farming outland prot-ret gear? Since tier 2 is already good enough for healing till level 70 and there is no reason to over burden farming or competing for gears in classic just to be a bit less than viable to tank early outland dungeon runs. Healers will also be scarce for the same reason as less tank available during leveling.
@@MetaGoblin . Holy can level solo too in TBC cmiiw.. Peoples will mostly run dungeons for reps first before guesting so yeah there's your chance to gear up for whichever spec you'll like to play. It'll also help to avoid early launch chaos.
@@MrCliverandy Technically, any class with any spec can solo level. Holy Paladins are not the most efficient levelers and will likely cause those players to fall far behind the rest.
@@swiftjuice168 . Holy is just there for consecration, bless, aura, perhaps help with some needed judgement, and very efficient healing. Of course it will be different between alliance and horde since horde paladins will basically need to struggle from lvl 1 trio spec leveling will benefit them the most. Especially with Seal of Blood, you might want to take the most advantage from it. Also trio leveling has the advantage (for Belf) of easier talents and professions synchronization. Heck you can even add a druid and shaman to the group starting from crossroad to begin dungeon cleaving. For alliance however, this is clearly not that beneficial. Considering not many people will want to begin Tbc with Draenei Pally and most paladins will start at level 60 hence easier and faster to solo. But then again each outland zone will have hard elite quests that totally requires a party so not that much of a loss. As for Draenei shaman, this vid is not about shaman but same rule can be applied since you might need to have resto shaman ready to rock ASAP.
@@swiftjuice168 . Either you carry pure healer specs/classes or they will drag your entire progress. Clear tons of dungeons quickly - get gears+reps - get professions done - go heroic - begin working on Karazan - Mag - Gruul - SSC - TK. Then you do your solo farming/questing/dailies/reps.
There are a lot of errors in this video in terms of what people want to grab talents wise, if you plan to go into raiding asap then not grabbing armour, defense, and intellect seems very silly to me. Having no defensives that do not drop threat means being block and defense capped is the most important thing a protection paladin can achieve.
PRO TIP from a holy/ret paladin who tanks dungeons speed run style and never runs out of mana, get R14 swiftblade, if blizzard drops the pre-patch as in the original timeline you are gonna be able to farm with the new honor system for a few days/week/weeks grab that shit asap, it does A LOT of damage, attacks SUPER FAST which translates to INFINITE mana with seal of wisdom on, as long as you have pieces of T2.5 and T2 for a full set of 8 pieces mix and match, that's all the spell power you need, or you can drop 30 spell power on it if you fancy that but i am telling you that weapon is gonna take you probably to like lvl 68 ez when it comes to solo farming, and remember! drinking between pulls is for plebs. PS: fuck the holy talents, after you finish prot you go ret, pick benediction, judgement cd, parry for sweet parry haste, SoC for the 1v1s, 3/3 pursuit of justice for that 15% speed, 1 filler point and voila: +50% ret aura damage, you just increased your killing speed by like 10-20%
As a Paladin tank going into TBC, you shouldn't use full Tier 2/2.5 sets since there's no defensive stats on either set. To offset using a few slots for the defensive gear, you should ALWAYS use a spell damage based weapon. Wraith Blade has the same speed as Swiftblade AND offers an immense amount of spell damage. "Lok'amir il Romathis" is 2.10 speed, which is only .30 slower than Swiftblade. For most solo pulls, Paladins don't often run out of mana before the pull is done if they practice a bit and get the hang of efficiently killing the pull.
@@swiftjuice168 i actually just found this comment but i don't know where you live and you getting a wraith blade as a pala in the first place, unless you run gdkps and you have like 100k gold to spend on a weapon. Cos obviously you are bidding against MAGES who have the most gold Also this is literally a leveling video you can lvl with 0 defense none bats an eye, hell even dungeon tank up to like 67(and by that point you have an actual tanking set somewhere), the whole def + sp weapon thing is raiding and heroics, lok amir when you take on 1 mob(cos yeah that can happen) is waaaay worse than swiftblade, the only benefit that lok amir has is exactly 27.72 extra dmg on concecration and wraith blade is 31.35 , not even a tick while the attack speed providied by the swiftblade works as a mana battery on aoe pulls, yes someday those 3-4 extra attacks that you will get each pull can be the difference, and added up they save a lot of drinking/eating
@@HeavenShallBurn16 Spell damage is not the same in TBC as it was in Classic - it provides a 1:1 ratio with Consecration. So, +84 Spell Damage would provide +84 total damage for Consecration, leaving you with an additional 10.5 DPS, or "per tick." Your math would be correct for Classic but not for TBC. As a Protection Paladin, why would you only be taking on one mob at a time? Even excusing that, your suggestion is to use a weapon that doesn't benefit the Paladin whatsoever? We'd lose all the extra spell damage the weapon would provide for our spells, inevitably causing the fight to go on much longer than if we were to just use a spell damage weapon. You certainly can level with zero defensive stats (block, dodge, parry or literal defence skill) but that's without a group, and not in dungeons. If a "tank" attempted to tank a dungeon (doesn't matter which one) with no defensive stats, they will get hammered on and likely die within a few seconds, effectively causing a wipe. Not to mention, Holy Shield requires blocks in order to proc. Using the Swiftblade instead of Lok'amir il Romathis... You sacrifice 18 Intellect (Approximately 270 mana) You sacrifice 3 Stamina (Approximately 30 health) You sacrifice 8 Spirit Using the level 60 Seal of Wisdom, it has a CHANCE (not guaranteed) to restore 59 mana per melee attack. This means that we would need to have it proc over 4.5 times before surpassing the benefit of +18 Intellect.
@@swiftjuice168 seal is 90, judge is 59 :P but yeah i guess if the spell ratios are different taking the more dmg should be more efficient in the long run (situationally probably depending on the mob's health, overkills etc), if it can save you let's say 1 concecration cast per fight, that's 580(aprox. can't remember exactly) mana there saved. I don't know maybe i am just weird but i don't like sitting and drinking like at all while in open world
@@holymacaroni84 Ranking "Easiest" to "Hardest" to get: 1.) Mastersmith's Hammer from "Goraluk Anvilcrack" in Upper Blackrock Spire 2.) Mind Carver from "Prince Tortheldrin" in Dire Maul: West 3.) Elemental Attuned Blade off the Auction House (Costly, so it's higher than the first two on the list) 4.) Sageblade off the Auction House (Depending on server, may cost more or less than previous) 5.) Renataki's Soul Conduit from "Renataki" in Zul'Gurub 6.) Bloodcaller from "Hakkar" in Zul'Gurub 7.) Stinger of Ayamiss from "Ayamiss the Hunter" in AQ20 8.) Azuresong Mageblade from "Golemagg the Incinerator" in Molten Core (I've never seen it drop, so it's high on my list) 9.) Sharpened Silithid Femur from "Viscidus" in AQ40 10.) Lok'amir il Romathis from "Nefarian" in Blackwing Lair Honorable mentions: Aurastone Hammer from "Garr" in Molten Core and Wraith Blade from "Maexxna" in Naxxramas Edit: Forgot to mention that all of these weapons can be enhanced with the +30 Spell Damage enchantment.
All very good information. But if you want to try something different then try something like this. tbcdb.com/talents/index.html?en&paladin&0000000000000000000005320133500001520115515020500130200000000000. Using a big fat 2 Hander you are relying on Parry and Reckoning to deal burst. Taking on 2 or 3 mobs is still recommended to get more procs and the Imp Ret Aura is very noticeable doing about 10% of your damage. Additionally, overall your talents are very suited to tanking with spec changing. The PoJ talents can just as easily go into more crit, I just like the extra ground movement for on foot.
Putting only 1 point in Improved Holy Shield is not a smart idea when AoE grinding since you're losing out on 10% increased damage, along with 2 extra charges which you will go through easily over the span of 10 seconds when AoE grinding/tanking. You've also neglected One Handed Weapon Specialization which reduces the maximum damage you can put out. Using a 2H weapon when fighting 1 mob is not efficient when Protection has MUCH more damage capability, even against a single target. Your linked talent tree sees the player already at level 70 which means they won't be leveling anymore. Unfortunately, I wouldn't recommend this spec for anyone looking to level efficiently, tank dungeons or raids.
@@swiftjuice168 I put the final 10 points into the Prot tree just to finish it off. All of your points are perfectly sound and I would have agreed with at one time. But years of running this spec has shown it to work extremely well for grinding through 1 to 3 mobs at a time using a 2 hander. Where a basic Prot build is very slow. Also, I think 1handed spec is 5% extra damage btw. So the extra 50% Ret aura can make up the difference. As for tanking dungeons, it will does just as well as the basic Prot build, let's be honest here, dungeon tanking ain't hard. Yes, as a raid tank it is weaker, but only slightly. The point here is to show variation. Putting out the Meta Prot build shows a lack of imagination and defeats the point of the exercise.
@@Kalarandir You do realize with the traditional protection build we don't take on 1-3 mobs at a time, right? It's not uncommon for us to round up 12-15 mobs while leveling (60-70) and be able to down them in under 2 minutes. This time will only be improved upon with spell damage gear being carried over from Classic. When I mentioned the 10% damage increase, I wasn't referring to the one-handed weapon specialization. You only put 1 point in Improved Holy Shield - you're missing out on 10% damage AND 2 charges. That combined with the 5%, you'd be missing 15% total damage from Holy Shield. So, threat and survivability. Improved Ret. Aura is a maximum of 10-13 extra damage. (10 = level 60-65 and 13 = 66-70) One-handed weapon specialization affects EVERY spell/ability/melee attack - combine that with the full 20% increased damage from Holy Shield and it makes Improved Ret. Aura useless. Also also, combine that with spell damage - Holy Shield, Consecrate, etc. scales with it. Ret Aura does not.
@@Kalarandir As far as tanking normal dungeons, it doesn't do "just as well" as the "basic prot build" since you're missing mitigation AND threat. You won't be able to tank as well as someone who specs properly. Tanking raids with your spec will get you killed, very quickly. Reckoning is a very dangerous talent for tanking. You've neglected Toughness and Spell Warding. AND you went with IMPROVED BLESSING OF MIGHT? That's an increase of 44 AP at LEVEL 70. Smh. Benediction is the better talent by a country-mile. Without speccing deeper into the Ret. tree, attempting to 'dps' with a 2H weapon is gonna be like using a wet paper towel roll. I can admire creativity and uniqueness, but man... this spec is just bad.
@@swiftjuice168 When tanking dungeons, a Holy or Ret Paladin can do the job with some specing into Prot. So I really do not see your point here. Threat is not an issue for Paladins in TBC, an extra 5% on top of the insanely high threat a Paladin generates is simply not needed. Does the basic Prot build generate more threat? Yes. As for the lack of mitigation, are you seriously talking about toughness and spell warding? If you are then fine, I tanked all TBC in 2007/8 without them, and have been doing so ever since, so I do not think I will need them for Classic TBC. However, PoJ does provide spell defence that a basic Prot build will often be without. If however you are referring to IHS, I will concede that point as I did need 2/2 for Kara and will in all likelihood be required again. Does a basic Prot build have more mitigation? Yes. This is not about being meta. It is about killing mobs in group sizes you are going to encounter while levelling in the quickest way. PoJ also allows for faster movement between mobs and Imp Ret aura helps get them down faster with a lower cost in mana. Can the basic Prot build round up dozens of mobs and kill them? Yes. Can the tweaked build it do everything a basic Prot build can, basically, yes? Can it do very specific things that a basic Prot build can do? Again yes. Is the basic Prot build better at doing these things? Well yes, of course it is. But being better does not mean that that level is actually required and comes at a cost. I played Paladins with the basic Prot build because they were a known quantity, but after years of doing the same thing I have altered my build very slightly to improve it in certain aspects. I believe it works and it has worked for the last countless number I have rolled. I am not denying how good the basic Prot build is at doing what it is good at. I am just saying that it is so good, it may actually be too good at it allowing some flexibility in the spec. It is only by experimenting and trying new things that we move the class forward. Who would have thought that a Paladin would be main tanking in Nax, let alone a Holy Paladin?
I dont understand how strength is useless on pally though, I do more damage so another thing to hold threat, and increases the amount of damage blocked with a shield. How is that NOT good. It's useful for SURE. Maybe not as useful as spell power but c'mon calling it useless is just strange.
@@MasterNinjaXz Strength only affects your white damage. If you're relying on the threat from that, then there's a problem. 20 Strength = 1 Block Value. Strength is, in fact, useless for a Protection Paladin.
@@sparkthafox4440 Well, Trace pretty much nailed it. You can spam dungeons and literally hit max level in less than 6 hours. There's no point to create a leveling guide.
"Stength is kinda a useless stat anways" - Specs Strength
Underrated video, i am leveling a palidn rght now on atlantiss and yours tips are helping me a lot, pala its very funny on tbc because 3 specs are completly good and viable. Nice content man
Just come across this vid, first time seeing Meta on cam. Does not look how I expected. Love the suit!
can you do a guide for players who didn’t play the original wow classic but are coming back for TBC classic.
every guide i've clicked on is talking about leveling as if you have T3 and a shitton of gold and shit. Like bruh I quit wow classic in phase 3 I wanna level a belfpaladin tell me how that works
@@DozleZabi same. haha
@@DozleZabi lmao ikr
@@DozleZabi if you're starting fresh quest in ghostlands/draenai island until 20. Spec prot, when questing make big pulls. Find a group for sfk if horde and then go to SM when able. Find a group for stockades if ally then find a group for SM when able. Sit in SM till early to mid 40s then go to ZF until about 50. Do BRD xp runs around the ring until 55ish then just farm strath UD. If you can't find groups then what you want to do is look for areas that you can quest in and kill a lot of undead/demon mobs so you can nuke them with exorcism and holy wrath.
Go to out lands at 58 and just do quests. Best option is just spam LFG as a tank. Level doing dungeons. Then when 70 back track and do all quests you missed for extra gold.
Can you make a guide from 1-60 for those going bloodelf? :)
From 20+ it's the same as vanilla guides. Once you finish up the Ghostlands you're back to vanilla zones and content to level in.
Auto attack till 60
Gonna be fun to do ghostlands tho.
Pay for boosts
@@BurneyBurnerson From who? Mages won't be able to boost like they could. They can't pull more than 10 mobs without having the AOE cap screw them, and there won't be paladins available to boost yet.
Tier 3 will still be really good for leveling, because of the change in tbc that gives all healing gear a 3rd of the healing as spell damage.
there will still be 0 strength and agility tho. Avenger BiS
@@PcGAMEr877 It’s an interesting statement for a few reasons…
1.) 100 Strength (Combining every piece of Tier 2.5) only provides 5 additional block value (for a total of 106 compared to 101 with the Redemption set)
2.) The lack of agility provides the largest difference sitting at +3.23% dodge chance wearing Tier 2.5
3.) While that is the case, the Redemption set provides an additional 499 Armor, 653 HP and 960 Mana. It also provides an additional 47 MP5. These increased values allow for more efficiency in runs
4.) There is a difference of 68 spell damage in favour of Tier 2.5; however, the increased healing from Tier 3 would generally outweigh that. Tier 3 also reduces the cooldown on Lay on Hands AND allows for a 200-instant heal every time Cleanse is used appropriately
The Redemption set is, believe it or not, superior to the Avenger’s set.
dont even play classic and still watching this to the end wtf is wrong with me ...........
i quit a year ago, now i'm ready for TBC.
@@AJ-iu6nw i quit a month ago, just logging to craft and sell stuff for some extra tbc gold :) quit once i got my 1-300 JC mats ready
Humans like information and having an advantage so to speak. But your interest in something you don't play I cannot answer, maybe you like the world but not the game?
Hey thanks for the guide ! Could you tell me if it's viable to go straight up with these talents as a fresh paly lvl 10 and do my leveling like that ?
You sound like the late-night host of a jazz radio.
You remind me of that dude who wears the suit and reviews fast food. It's great tho never change
Honestly video contains many wrong information. For example about rep priorities, if you play prot pala in tbc your main priority after dinging is revered with keepers of time. You get best in slot weapon and pants from it, tanking head enchant and couple useful items from dungeons quests. You dont need so many spd gear at beginning because you have more impotent priorities - crit/crush caps and only after that you go for spd stacking.
If we compare the two weapons from each Quartermaster, we'll see that Honor Hold's is in fact better than Keepers of Time. The only downside being that Honor Hold's requires Exalted while Keepers of Time requires Revered. So, Keepers of Time is FAR from BiS weapon for tanking. In fact, Crystalforged Sword is a MUCH better tanking weapon and it's BoE.
Throughout your leveling experience, if you complete a few runs of Escape from Durnholde and Black Morass, you will likely be at Revered if not very close, so the importance of prioritizing this reputation at 70 is not high on the list.
I presume by "spd" you mean spell damage? - You shouldn't stack spell damage at any time, regardless of your defensive stats since 200 is more than enough to start Karazhan and new gear will only provide more and more. You should be stacking stamina after reaching defence/crush cap.
@@swiftjuice168 Crystalforged Sword added in patch 2.1, so it may not be available on start of classic tbc. Hellfire sword have more spell power, but less stamina, so it's better for threat, but not overall. After you reach crush cap you should have both sets - mitigation and threat. But that's another story because at this point you will be raiding t5 and i guest you don't need that's sort of guides.
@@pavlosegeda8294
We're likely to start at 2.4.3
It has 17 less stamina - hardly an amount to sacrifice additional threat for.
You shouldn't worry about having multiple sets of gear since most of our spell damage comes from our weapon and as we progress in Tiers, we have increased amounts on our armour, as well as higher levels of mitigation.
Yeah you're right but you can't get keepers of time reputation while open world questing in outland.
My method is like, judge sow on one mob put new sow on, gather 4ish more mobs and cosc/holy shield dem down till the seal is about to run out then a pick a new fresh mob and repeat. Allways keeping 4-6 mobs on me and managing my mana so a never have to drink. When needed you will have to trow in some improved holy light
Have you tryed anthing like that?
Just a bit confused on a couple of things. Hoping you can set me straight. You said "strength is kind of a useless stat for prot paladins", and you said int is a lot better. But then you said to point into "Divine Strength" instead of "Divine Intellect". Why wouldn't you take divine intellect if strength is useles?
Also, why no seal of the crusader/ vengeance for single target? Like, you didn't even mention the spell once, but all the guides I've read say for single target to start out with a seal of judgement then into seal of vengeance and put its judgement on the target if noone else has. Are you assuming someone else is putting up the debuff?
It will be any difference if i will able to but the boost? ty for the vid
Lets say you want to be powerleveling with a paladin in the first few weeks of TBC and you haven't raided because you are leveling it now. What gear would you recommend. You could include quests rewards from the first few zones of TBC.
Have a full list for you...
Helmet - Underworld Helm from "Beneath Thrallmar" (Quest is available to both factions but may have a varied name) Required Level = 58
Neck - "Diana's Pearl Necklace" from Stratholme (Cannon Master Willey - Live Side) or "Medallion of Grand Marshal Morris" which is a BoE that shouldn't cost too much on the AH nowadays.
Shoulders - "Polished Obsidian Pauldrons" are BoE and pretty nice if you can afford them on your server. If not, "Lightforge Spaulders" from Blackrock Spire are a nice alternative. (Darksoul Shoulders/Stockade Pauldrons are nice, too, and BoE, but they may be pricey)
Cloak - "Redoubt Cloak" if you can complete a Dire Maul Tribute Run. If not, "Shifting Cloak" is an epic BoE. "Cloak of Fire" is a BoE that has an AoE effect.
Chest - Fire Scarred Breastplate from Disrupt Their Reinforcements (Same quest for Alliance and Horde) Required Level = 58
Bracers - "Lawbringer Bracers" can work just fine. If you can't buy them, "Fel Hardened Bracers" are quite fantastic as well and they drop from Dire Maul.
Hands - "Darkrune Gaunlets" are probably the best even with a low amount of Stamina and are BoE. If you can't buy those, I would stick with "Deathbone Gauntlets" and they drop from Scholomance.
Waist - For this, I would just recommend "Deathbone Girdle" from Scholomance.
Legs - "Flintlocke's Piloting Pants" from "In Case of Emergency..." (Both factions) Required Level = 58
Boots - "Golden Cenarion Greaves" from "Natural Remedies" (Both Factions) Required Level = 61 (Group Quest) If not, "Deathbone Sabatons"
Rings - "Rune Band of Wizardry" (Blackrock Spire) and "Band of the Steadfast Hero" (Scholomance)
Trinkets - "Regal Protectorate" or "Vengeance of the Illidari" ("Cruel's Intentions" - Horde and "Overlord" - Alliance) and "Charm of Alacrity" ("Voidwalers Gone Wild" - Both factions)
Weapon - "Sedai's Blade" from Makuru's Vengeance (Alliance) or Source of the Corruption (Horde) Required Level = 60
Shield - If you can, "Skullflame Shield" is quite amazing for either objective but it's got quite the price tag sometimes. If it's not possible, "Draconian Aegis of the Legion" from Blackrock Spire with a Thorium Shield Spike would do just fine.
Libram - "Libram of Hope" from Dire Maul East. It's from the summonable boss, but I imagine there'll be plenty of people that can summon it.
Can I lvl as a ret ? since i want to play ret in raids and dungeons than prot cuz im bad at tanking
Is there anything I can start trying to grab now in Classic that would benefit me going into Kara? I know some items are great all the way to Kara for other classes such as DFT, Nelth Tear, Brooch, etc.
I think styleens impeding scarab is still quite nice at 70.
@@JosCleland
It's a VERY good item for tanks, absolutely. It provides about 3.05% Block Chance / 8.44 Defence Skill along with some block value.
Other than that, not a lot of items are going to stand the test of time from 60-70 and then into Karazhan. You nailed it.
Glyph of deflection is huge for dungeon grinding. You basically get 2-3 packs together and pop it and AOE everything down.
@@Zorbodorb
“Glyph of Deflection” is a good trinket. Would I say it’s ‘huge’ for dungeon grinding? Unfortunately, no. Because of its Block Chance (1.52%) being lower than that of “Styleen’s Impeding Scarab” (3.04%) we’d look solely at the Block Value (23 + on-use of 235 for 20 seconds)
Assuming we’re discussing level-appropriate dungeons and mobs, your chance to block is not as high as if you were farming or boosting - in other words, your block value will mean less since you’re only able to benefit from it as long as you’re actually blocking attacks - which is generally useless against caster mobs.
The class to benefit from “Glyph of Deflection” most would be Warriors since their Block Value increases their “Shield Slam” damage.
Your end of vid music made me want to play Fable
Love the Morrowind music
Really clear - thanks for explaining why!
wow this guide is really nice tx
skullflame shield spellpower coefficent got nerfed from 100% to around 11% 2 days ago on tbc beta.
What is avenger and judgement gear?
I generally like your videos but think the information in this one is wrong. I've played a paladin through TBC multiple times and the most efficient way to level prot, by far, is to be pulling large packs and AoE-ing them down.
You shouldn't be taking points in reduced healing pushback as you can't avoid (most importantly block) during casts, which means you're taking more damage and not dealing Holy Shield damage.
Illumination is wasting 5 points on some mana regen for when you're healing; for this to be useful you need to be taking enough constant damage to warrant healing yourself and you need to be running into mana issues.
Those two points mean spending 5 points in Strength, which is only really useful for single target, is contrary to what the spec is actually good at. If anything, take intellect.
In total that's 15 points spent on healing and in-combat mana regen (that you only get when healing yourself). Those 15 points are much better spent in the Prot tree on avoidance and Improved Holy Shield.
When you actually have mob competition, and even in leveling gear, you should be finding it hard to pull enough mobs. Survivability will never be an issue leveling as prot.
can you link ur build
Why do you need enchants or raid gear upon entering? Hellfire quest gear is good enough.
I think we're looking at efficiency. Hellfire questing gear isn't as powerful as raiding gear as an entire set and thus won't provide you with the same level of efficiency.
Can you tank dungeons with this spec`?
Deciding between ret, affliction, and enhancement for BC PvP. Want to go try or enhc, but idk about then in arena.
They need to release paladin and shaman to the opposite factions about 2 weeks before TBC as a 'pre patch event' so to not split up gaming communities and leave people playing an MMO on their own while everyone is in outland.
That would be nice. Never going to happen though :/
@@Permuh
It's a great idea but we still don't know how they'd even release TBC - whether on fresh servers, copying characters over, etc.
@@Permuh Consider yourself proven wrong XD.... classic will have a prepatch and belfs/dranei will be released then
@@JoziWOW hallelujah blizzard are finally doing things right! 😂
They announced that there will be a pre patch. It might last about a month so new races can catch up by the time the expansion releases.
Anyone watching this for tbc classic? do you know if this is still applicable?
pala tier 3 set gets updated to have spell damage also
hey @metagoblin i seen your video and toyhouse aoe pally but both videos shows different verison of the build
Suit looks well on you. I would absolutely invite you to my wedding
Would love to see a priest guide like this meta!
Nice to see your face on these finally!
Should of been "TBC leveling guide for paladins, if your already a paladin"....
what a nice video
No such thing as a guide for BE in TBC dungeon boost all the way before portal opens, sucks because I was looking forward to 5 pallys lvling lol
Boosting is going to be very, very slow with the release of the pre-patch.
horde players are like D:
I'd like you to read the hobbit to me at bed time.
First book I ever read and still my favourite 👌
Good video as usual Meta :3 but I’ll have full Retri gear as that’s what I raid as ( Will be levelling with Might of Menethil or corrupted ash ) so I’m guessing in my case levelling as retribution will be better due to the gear I have access too ?
Paladins can tank decently even in Retribution gear as long as you get a spell damage weapon soon (or use a Flask of Supreme Power)
What if im already Naxx geared Ret? MoM and so on.
this is just 60-70?
Why the hell are you wearing a suit with a tie playing wow xDDD
You dont need avengers sheild as a prot pally. TBH I actually dont take the talent. Threat doesnt change much with/without it and its a HUGE mana sink. Just not worth. Walk in. Drop your consecrate, put up holy shield. count to 8 then tell warlocks.mages to go ham GG
tbh I'm also not a fan of it. While leveling you could make some small use out of it when you do a bop pull or something. However it is quite useful for finishing off enemies who run away in fear.
Think spellpower scaling from skullflame/demonforged got removed in tbc
According to WoWHead comments on Skullflame Shield from 2007, it did in fact scale with Spell Damage.
Why not just stay holy and wear tier 2-3 gear and enjoy healing dungeons while farming outland prot-ret gear?
Since tier 2 is already good enough for healing till level 70 and there is no reason to over burden farming or competing for gears in classic just to be a bit less than viable to tank early outland dungeon runs. Healers will also be scarce for the same reason as less tank available during leveling.
A lot of people prefer to level solo
@@MetaGoblin . Holy can level solo too in TBC cmiiw.. Peoples will mostly run dungeons for reps first before guesting so yeah there's your chance to gear up for whichever spec you'll like to play. It'll also help to avoid early launch chaos.
@@MrCliverandy
Technically, any class with any spec can solo level. Holy Paladins are not the most efficient levelers and will likely cause those players to fall far behind the rest.
@@swiftjuice168 . Holy is just there for consecration, bless, aura, perhaps help with some needed judgement, and very efficient healing.
Of course it will be different between alliance and horde since horde paladins will basically need to struggle from lvl 1 trio spec leveling will benefit them the most. Especially with Seal of Blood, you might want to take the most advantage from it.
Also trio leveling has the advantage (for Belf) of easier talents and professions synchronization. Heck you can even add a druid and shaman to the group starting from crossroad to begin dungeon cleaving.
For alliance however, this is clearly not that beneficial. Considering not many people will want to begin Tbc with Draenei Pally and most paladins will start at level 60 hence easier and faster to solo. But then again each outland zone will have hard elite quests that totally requires a party so not that much of a loss.
As for Draenei shaman, this vid is not about shaman but same rule can be applied since you might need to have resto shaman ready to rock ASAP.
@@swiftjuice168 . Either you carry pure healer specs/classes or they will drag your entire progress. Clear tons of dungeons quickly - get gears+reps - get professions done - go heroic - begin working on Karazan - Mag - Gruul - SSC - TK. Then you do your solo farming/questing/dailies/reps.
can anyone link me to a end game aoe talent build
Meta "To be honest" Goblin
There are a lot of errors in this video in terms of what people want to grab talents wise, if you plan to go into raiding asap then not grabbing armour, defense, and intellect seems very silly to me. Having no defensives that do not drop threat means being block and defense capped is the most important thing a protection paladin can achieve.
This is a leveling guide not a raiding guide
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skullflame shield does not stack with spell power, was tested over and over. it only did on private servers.
Wrong. We use it on classic. It's 1:1 with SP
@@rossmiller9740
A lot of what we had in Classic is changed when TBC comes out so this may not be the case.
Who'da thunk this guy sits up in his attic with a suit on playing wow
go lvl shockadin spellpower= more aoe clear + big selfheals
Wow, necktie, you are so official 😂
Next one video do for shammies please
Does anybody know if Blessing of Sacrifice procs Reckoning??
ret or prot, me watchimg wondering how to level holy pala lmao
Pretty much dungeons or find someone to do more damage for you lol
You look like Christian Linder from FDP Germany😂
PRO TIP from a holy/ret paladin who tanks dungeons speed run style and never runs out of mana, get R14 swiftblade, if blizzard drops the pre-patch as in the original timeline you are gonna be able to farm with the new honor system for a few days/week/weeks grab that shit asap, it does A LOT of damage, attacks SUPER FAST which translates to INFINITE mana with seal of wisdom on, as long as you have pieces of T2.5 and T2 for a full set of 8 pieces mix and match, that's all the spell power you need, or you can drop 30 spell power on it if you fancy that but i am telling you that weapon is gonna take you probably to like lvl 68 ez when it comes to solo farming, and remember! drinking between pulls is for plebs.
PS: fuck the holy talents, after you finish prot you go ret, pick benediction, judgement cd, parry for sweet parry haste, SoC for the 1v1s, 3/3 pursuit of justice for that 15% speed, 1 filler point and voila: +50% ret aura damage, you just increased your killing speed by like 10-20%
As a Paladin tank going into TBC, you shouldn't use full Tier 2/2.5 sets since there's no defensive stats on either set. To offset using a few slots for the defensive gear, you should ALWAYS use a spell damage based weapon.
Wraith Blade has the same speed as Swiftblade AND offers an immense amount of spell damage.
"Lok'amir il Romathis" is 2.10 speed, which is only .30 slower than Swiftblade.
For most solo pulls, Paladins don't often run out of mana before the pull is done if they practice a bit and get the hang of efficiently killing the pull.
this is a golden point the pvp gear is going to be a godsend for healers who need gear for tbc solo leveling.
@@swiftjuice168 i actually just found this comment but i don't know where you live and you getting a wraith blade as a pala in the first place, unless you run gdkps and you have like 100k gold to spend on a weapon. Cos obviously you are bidding against MAGES who have the most gold
Also this is literally a leveling video you can lvl with 0 defense none bats an eye, hell even dungeon tank up to like 67(and by that point you have an actual tanking set somewhere), the whole def + sp weapon thing is raiding and heroics,
lok amir when you take on 1 mob(cos yeah that can happen) is waaaay worse than swiftblade, the only benefit that lok amir has is exactly 27.72 extra dmg on concecration and wraith blade is 31.35 , not even a tick while the attack speed providied by the swiftblade works as a mana battery on aoe pulls, yes someday those 3-4 extra attacks that you will get each pull can be the difference, and added up they save a lot of drinking/eating
@@HeavenShallBurn16
Spell damage is not the same in TBC as it was in Classic - it provides a 1:1 ratio with Consecration. So, +84 Spell Damage would provide +84 total damage for Consecration, leaving you with an additional 10.5 DPS, or "per tick." Your math would be correct for Classic but not for TBC.
As a Protection Paladin, why would you only be taking on one mob at a time? Even excusing that, your suggestion is to use a weapon that doesn't benefit the Paladin whatsoever? We'd lose all the extra spell damage the weapon would provide for our spells, inevitably causing the fight to go on much longer than if we were to just use a spell damage weapon.
You certainly can level with zero defensive stats (block, dodge, parry or literal defence skill) but that's without a group, and not in dungeons. If a "tank" attempted to tank a dungeon (doesn't matter which one) with no defensive stats, they will get hammered on and likely die within a few seconds, effectively causing a wipe. Not to mention, Holy Shield requires blocks in order to proc.
Using the Swiftblade instead of Lok'amir il Romathis...
You sacrifice 18 Intellect (Approximately 270 mana)
You sacrifice 3 Stamina (Approximately 30 health)
You sacrifice 8 Spirit
Using the level 60 Seal of Wisdom, it has a CHANCE (not guaranteed) to restore 59 mana per melee attack. This means that we would need to have it proc over 4.5 times before surpassing the benefit of +18 Intellect.
@@swiftjuice168 seal is 90, judge is 59 :P
but yeah i guess if the spell ratios are different taking the more dmg should be more efficient in the long run (situationally probably depending on the mob's health, overkills etc), if it can save you let's say 1 concecration cast per fight, that's 580(aprox. can't remember exactly) mana there saved.
I don't know maybe i am just weird but i don't like sitting and drinking like at all while in open world
Lightforged Blade is two-handed =(
any other spell-dmg weapons easy to get?
@@holymacaroni84
Ranking "Easiest" to "Hardest" to get:
1.) Mastersmith's Hammer from "Goraluk Anvilcrack" in Upper Blackrock Spire
2.) Mind Carver from "Prince Tortheldrin" in Dire Maul: West
3.) Elemental Attuned Blade off the Auction House (Costly, so it's higher than the first two on the list)
4.) Sageblade off the Auction House (Depending on server, may cost more or less than previous)
5.) Renataki's Soul Conduit from "Renataki" in Zul'Gurub
6.) Bloodcaller from "Hakkar" in Zul'Gurub
7.) Stinger of Ayamiss
from "Ayamiss the Hunter" in AQ20
8.) Azuresong Mageblade from "Golemagg the Incinerator" in Molten Core (I've never seen it drop, so it's high on my list)
9.) Sharpened Silithid Femur from "Viscidus" in AQ40
10.) Lok'amir il Romathis from "Nefarian" in Blackwing Lair
Honorable mentions:
Aurastone Hammer from "Garr" in Molten Core
and
Wraith Blade from "Maexxna" in Naxxramas
Edit: Forgot to mention that all of these weapons can be enhanced with the +30 Spell Damage enchantment.
All very good information. But if you want to try something different then try something like this. tbcdb.com/talents/index.html?en&paladin&0000000000000000000005320133500001520115515020500130200000000000. Using a big fat 2 Hander you are relying on Parry and Reckoning to deal burst. Taking on 2 or 3 mobs is still recommended to get more procs and the Imp Ret Aura is very noticeable doing about 10% of your damage. Additionally, overall your talents are very suited to tanking with spec changing. The PoJ talents can just as easily go into more crit, I just like the extra ground movement for on foot.
Putting only 1 point in Improved Holy Shield is not a smart idea when AoE grinding since you're losing out on 10% increased damage, along with 2 extra charges which you will go through easily over the span of 10 seconds when AoE grinding/tanking.
You've also neglected One Handed Weapon Specialization which reduces the maximum damage you can put out.
Using a 2H weapon when fighting 1 mob is not efficient when Protection has MUCH more damage capability, even against a single target.
Your linked talent tree sees the player already at level 70 which means they won't be leveling anymore.
Unfortunately, I wouldn't recommend this spec for anyone looking to level efficiently, tank dungeons or raids.
@@swiftjuice168 I put the final 10 points into the Prot tree just to finish it off.
All of your points are perfectly sound and I would have agreed with at one time. But years of running this spec has shown it to work extremely well for grinding through 1 to 3 mobs at a time using a 2 hander. Where a basic Prot build is very slow. Also, I think 1handed spec is 5% extra damage btw. So the extra 50% Ret aura can make up the difference.
As for tanking dungeons, it will does just as well as the basic Prot build, let's be honest here, dungeon tanking ain't hard.
Yes, as a raid tank it is weaker, but only slightly.
The point here is to show variation. Putting out the Meta Prot build shows a lack of imagination and defeats the point of the exercise.
@@Kalarandir
You do realize with the traditional protection build we don't take on 1-3 mobs at a time, right? It's not uncommon for us to round up 12-15 mobs while leveling (60-70) and be able to down them in under 2 minutes. This time will only be improved upon with spell damage gear being carried over from Classic.
When I mentioned the 10% damage increase, I wasn't referring to the one-handed weapon specialization. You only put 1 point in Improved Holy Shield - you're missing out on 10% damage AND 2 charges. That combined with the 5%, you'd be missing 15% total damage from Holy Shield. So, threat and survivability.
Improved Ret. Aura is a maximum of 10-13 extra damage. (10 = level 60-65 and 13 = 66-70) One-handed weapon specialization affects EVERY spell/ability/melee attack - combine that with the full 20% increased damage from Holy Shield and it makes Improved Ret. Aura useless. Also also, combine that with spell damage - Holy Shield, Consecrate, etc. scales with it. Ret Aura does not.
@@Kalarandir
As far as tanking normal dungeons, it doesn't do "just as well" as the "basic prot build" since you're missing mitigation AND threat. You won't be able to tank as well as someone who specs properly. Tanking raids with your spec will get you killed, very quickly. Reckoning is a very dangerous talent for tanking. You've neglected Toughness and Spell Warding. AND you went with IMPROVED BLESSING OF MIGHT? That's an increase of 44 AP at LEVEL 70. Smh. Benediction is the better talent by a country-mile. Without speccing deeper into the Ret. tree, attempting to 'dps' with a 2H weapon is gonna be like using a wet paper towel roll.
I can admire creativity and uniqueness, but man... this spec is just bad.
@@swiftjuice168 When tanking dungeons, a Holy or Ret Paladin can do the job with some specing into Prot. So I really do not see your point here. Threat is not an issue for Paladins in TBC, an extra 5% on top of the insanely high threat a Paladin generates is simply not needed. Does the basic Prot build generate more threat? Yes.
As for the lack of mitigation, are you seriously talking about toughness and spell warding? If you are then fine, I tanked all TBC in 2007/8 without them, and have been doing so ever since, so I do not think I will need them for Classic TBC. However, PoJ does provide spell defence that a basic Prot build will often be without.
If however you are referring to IHS, I will concede that point as I did need 2/2 for Kara and will in all likelihood be required again. Does a basic Prot build have more mitigation? Yes.
This is not about being meta. It is about killing mobs in group sizes you are going to encounter while levelling in the quickest way. PoJ also allows for faster movement between mobs and Imp Ret aura helps get them down faster with a lower cost in mana. Can the basic Prot build round up dozens of mobs and kill them? Yes.
Can the tweaked build it do everything a basic Prot build can, basically, yes? Can it do very specific things that a basic Prot build can do? Again yes. Is the basic Prot build better at doing these things? Well yes, of course it is. But being better does not mean that that level is actually required and comes at a cost.
I played Paladins with the basic Prot build because they were a known quantity, but after years of doing the same thing I have altered my build very slightly to improve it in certain aspects. I believe it works and it has worked for the last countless number I have rolled.
I am not denying how good the basic Prot build is at doing what it is good at. I am just saying that it is so good, it may actually be too good at it allowing some flexibility in the spec.
It is only by experimenting and trying new things that we move the class forward. Who would have thought that a Paladin would be main tanking in Nax, let alone a Holy Paladin?
I dont understand how strength is useless on pally though, I do more damage so another thing to hold threat, and increases the amount of damage blocked with a shield. How is that NOT good. It's useful for SURE. Maybe not as useful as spell power but c'mon calling it useless is just strange.
This is a solo levelling guide, wtf are you talking about threat for?
@@AutvmnTV is dungeoning not a part of levelling too? Lmao wtf YOU talking about dude, threat always matters, especially when talking about pally.
@@MasterNinjaXz
Strength only affects your white damage. If you're relying on the threat from that, then there's a problem.
20 Strength = 1 Block Value.
Strength is, in fact, useless for a Protection Paladin.
i am gonna wowhobbs the shit outta tbc
fekk efficiency
MetaGoblin, Flame Wrath +spel damage imba, it will be soo fast kill mobs
This is a LVL 70 GUIDE> What about a grinding guide for 60 - 70...
1st!
Why is this named 'classic'? Do you now know what classic means? There is no TBC classic? lmao
They announced in February that they are releasing TBC Classic.
@@novusmundi ugh... did they really? lol
@@leifashley
Yes sir. They haven't announced the release date nor the pre patch date yet. Rumors have the pre patch sometime this month.
Make some shadowlands leveling videos please they would be so much more helpful
Spam dungeons and get max in 6 hours
@@jarlfisk what's wrong with shadowlands?
@@sparkthafox4440
Well, Trace pretty much nailed it. You can spam dungeons and literally hit max level in less than 6 hours. There's no point to create a leveling guide.