Wow I couldn't believe how different they are once you engaged the Jan Ray! Great video! I might need to get one of those amp head switchers too! My Radial Engineering one seems to be having an issue.
To tell you the truth when i got my trad clean. I was dissapointed at first. Now having used different two rocks. I feel it has the best reverb for me. I have learned to dial it in and its my personal favorite amp. I used to almost hate it lol. Id love to see you comparing the silver sterling to trad clean because i think that might be my next buy. Classic sounds like my super reverb to me. I have 67 and i absolutely love it but i find im pretty much playing my trad clean and my ceriatone mostly. Another great video though keep em coming
I have a question. What is the model name of the KHE amp switch rack shown in the video? And is there a way to control two amps with only one uad ox? I wonder if it is possible only by using the switch rack.
Mine is the ACS 4x4. You can have 4 amps and 4 speaker cabs. For example right now I have 3 amps, with their respective 3 speakers, plus one OX (which acts as speaker cabinet). Does that make sense? You can have all your amps on, and go back and forth between all three, one at a time, sending them to the OX to record. That’s how I recorded this video. Going back and forth between two amps, and only one OX. You can check their website. The manual is super helpful in case I didn’t understand your question very well.
@@argbluesman Very interesting. Thank you. Are you saying that you are not using a separate cabinet, but connecting the OX to the cabinet out? If so, if I want to connect two amps to the OX, would it be enough to use an acs 4x2? I thought I would have to use the s-line send, return terminals of the 4x4 to use one attenuator. Please answer.
@@moon-cd1kl the connection is different if you want to use the OXs attenuation. I’m only using it on a speaker put. Not sure about the 4x2 but if that’s 4 amps and 2 cabs, if you put the ox as one speaker cab, you’re good. But it won’t have attenuation. I don’t know how those connections work for attenuation. The manual explains it very well.
Awesome video. To me the TC really sounds dialed in for more single coil tones. I'd be interested to see a video where you dial in a tone on each amp that you really like and then try to match it with the other. Seeing how the tone knobs are set with respect to each other would be useful I think.
But these are different amps. To me it makes little sense to want to match the amps tones with each other. They sound different. In fact in these videos I set the amps so that in the room they have similar amount of bass, treble, etc. These two amps can’t match the tone of the other one. They’re just different. Similar. But different enough.
@@BrandonMarsella I’m away from the studio. But I believe if you watch, at some point I must move so that I leave the amps exposed and you can see. But again, I fail to understand what the purpose would be. It’s not that copying the stack settings will give you the tone you’re hearing in the video really.
I thought maybe I'd have different preference when a strat is played versus the 335. I sure like the clarity of the Classic Reverb whether single coil or humbuckers are played. The preference margin is so very very small including the TS1. As I've said before, I'd be happy with any one of the 3 Two Rock amps you've demonstrated! 👍
Thanks man! Indeed, all of them are great. But this traditional clean man, those cleans are heavenly together with that reverb! It’s impossible to demonstrate the reverb in a video. It’s amazing how it fills the room.
@@argbluesman Yeah, I use really high quality headphones whenever I watch and listen your RUclips videos but I suspect it can't replicate what you hear directly in the room as you play it. You're a lucky man Federico to have the option to play 3 magnificent sounding amps! Always appreciate your videos man. The combination of great tones and fantastic playing makes your channel my favorite to watch.
I don’t think I will. To me the blackface was the most even comparison. I’ve read people saying that the traditional two rock gain structure sounds like the traditional clean. Nothing farther from reality. The fact that they refer to it as traditional two rock makes people associate that with the traditional clean. Nothing like that. Completely different, different circuits.
@@ParanoidDaveOsbourne they are different. The 100w sss is cleaner, more refined. It’s difficult to explain. But they are different and more so the 150w I would expect. That’s something the CRS can’t replicate. But the CRS is still an amazing blackface derivate on steroids, in a nutshell.
Wow. Great job! Nice to have such a fantastic comparison of these two juggernauts. Sounds to me that the TC has a low to low mid focus and the CRS has a high mid to high focus. Wanted to ask 1) Is there a reason you chose the blackface gain structure on the CRS for this comparison? 2) Is the TC capable of brighter, chimeier highs than what you have it set for here? Thanks!
Hi! 1) because it was the most even comparison between the two amps, while still revealing the differences. 2) absolutely. There’s still treble to add, still a bright switch to add, and presence to add. Plenty of highs available here. Thanks for watching!
I had a TC once and wasn’t happy with the reverb. It was unexpectedly noisy. People now will say something must have been wrong. But there wasn’t, you can also hear it in this video. I returned it.
The noise you hear is my noisy electric at home. Nothing to do with the reverb of the amps. The reverb is absolutely perfect. Something must have been up with the reverb of your amp. Did you get it checked by the two rock shop?
@@Michael-bm8hi did you replace the reverb tubes first before returning the amp? My traditional clean is dead quiet in terms of circuit. And my friend’s TC, the same.
@@argbluesman Replaced all the tubes. Swapped tubes. Checked the wires of the reverb tank. Turned the reverb tank around. Also checked with TR support (no much help coming from them). Any reverb setting above 2-3 was noisy. On stage certainly not a problem. For home use in a studio - no fun.
@@Michael-bm8hi hmm. I would have still sent the amp to them man. Might have been something else. Are you on the Facebook two rock group? I admin there and we get great results when some support is needed.
close, but sounds like the CRS has more depth and vibe and sparkle.. The TC seems less compressed and I do prefer a bit that at times, but the sag and bloom of CRS is seductive never-the less. I have a CRS and wouldn't switch based on what I hear here.. A lot of the forums rave at how much better the TC is, and how they all switched over, but I'm not hearing that here - quite the contraire
Yeah. I agree. The thing is that most people buy the TC because of the John Mayer thing. This amp is the Mayer signature platform. But it can do much more than that of course! And I see what you mean. People saying any amp is “better” just makes no sense. They are different. No amp is “better” than the other one. They are just different.
I bought the Traditional Clean because I wanted to save 1200 bucks. I recently played the CRS at the Dallas Guitar Show and i thought, oh man, I made a mistake!! You do a great job of showing the difference on here. The CRS is just a little more sparkly. If you turn up the presence on the TC, will it sound similar to the CRS? I know the CRS has the contour control on it so not sure if it is a presence or what exactly. Is there a pedal I could put in front of my TC that would make it more CRS?? Thank you!!!!
well, not really. They have some things in common but they are different in its core honestly. I’ve been playing both more intensely and they while they are blackface style, the CRS is much more blackface. The cleans of the tc are quite different. Not sure what you use. I use a Jan ray, quite transparent, a Klon clone, and a tube screamer based pedal (the kingtone soloist). Interesting to hear with each amp. Indeed the traditional clean is a bit warmer or rounder in some frequencies.
Wow I couldn't believe how different they are once you engaged the Jan Ray! Great video! I might need to get one of those amp head switchers too! My Radial Engineering one seems to be having an issue.
Indeed! The differences accentuate with an OD pedal!
Nice video！Looking forward to CRS Vs Vintage Deluxe please❤
I wish! But I don’t have a vintage deluxe 😅
Thank You Very Much! For me Classic Reverb Signature. 👍
Thanks for commenting!
To tell you the truth when i got my trad clean. I was dissapointed at first. Now having used different two rocks. I feel it has the best reverb for me. I have learned to dial it in and its my personal favorite amp. I used to almost hate it lol. Id love to see you comparing the silver sterling to trad clean because i think that might be my next buy. Classic sounds like my super reverb to me. I have 67 and i absolutely love it but i find im pretty much playing my trad clean and my ceriatone mostly. Another great video though keep em coming
What Ceriatone do you have? And how would you say it compares to with your Two Rock?
I have a question. What is the model name of the KHE amp switch rack shown in the video? And is there a way to control two amps with only one uad ox? I wonder if it is possible only by using the switch rack.
Mine is the ACS 4x4. You can have 4 amps and 4 speaker cabs. For example right now I have 3 amps, with their respective 3 speakers, plus one OX (which acts as speaker cabinet). Does that make sense? You can have all your amps on, and go back and forth between all three, one at a time, sending them to the OX to record. That’s how I recorded this video. Going back and forth between two amps, and only one OX. You can check their website. The manual is super helpful in case I didn’t understand your question very well.
@@argbluesman Very interesting. Thank you. Are you saying that you are not using a separate cabinet, but connecting the OX to the cabinet out? If so, if I want to connect two amps to the OX, would it be enough to use an acs 4x2? I thought I would have to use the s-line send, return terminals of the 4x4 to use one attenuator. Please answer.
@@moon-cd1kl the connection is different if you want to use the OXs attenuation. I’m only using it on a speaker put. Not sure about the 4x2 but if that’s 4 amps and 2 cabs, if you put the ox as one speaker cab, you’re good. But it won’t have attenuation. I don’t know how those connections work for attenuation. The manual explains it very well.
@@argbluesman Thank you teacher
Awesome video. To me the TC really sounds dialed in for more single coil tones. I'd be interested to see a video where you dial in a tone on each amp that you really like and then try to match it with the other. Seeing how the tone knobs are set with respect to each other would be useful I think.
But these are different amps. To me it makes little sense to want to match the amps tones with each other. They sound different. In fact in these videos I set the amps so that in the room they have similar amount of bass, treble, etc. These two amps can’t match the tone of the other one. They’re just different. Similar. But different enough.
@@argbluesman I'd be interested to know the tone stack settings if this was as close as you could get them.
@@BrandonMarsella I’m away from the studio. But I believe if you watch, at some point I must move so that I leave the amps exposed and you can see. But again, I fail to understand what the purpose would be. It’s not that copying the stack settings will give you the tone you’re hearing in the video really.
El Tradicional Clean es el que se parece al John Mayer Signature?
En casi todo. Es el mismo circuito con algunos tweaks (un poquito más brillo).
I thought maybe I'd have different preference when a strat is played versus the 335. I sure like the clarity of the Classic Reverb whether single coil or humbuckers are played. The preference margin is so very very small including the TS1. As I've said before, I'd be happy with any one of the 3 Two Rock amps you've demonstrated! 👍
Thanks man! Indeed, all of them are great. But this traditional clean man, those cleans are heavenly together with that reverb! It’s impossible to demonstrate the reverb in a video. It’s amazing how it fills the room.
@@argbluesman Yeah, I use really high quality headphones whenever I watch and listen your RUclips videos but I suspect it can't replicate what you hear directly in the room as you play it. You're a lucky man Federico to have the option to play 3 magnificent sounding amps! Always appreciate your videos man. The combination of great tones and fantastic playing makes your channel my favorite to watch.
THANKS 🙏
Will you compre them with two rock gain structure too?
I don’t think I will. To me the blackface was the most even comparison. I’ve read people saying that the traditional two rock gain structure sounds like the traditional clean. Nothing farther from reality. The fact that they refer to it as traditional two rock makes people associate that with the traditional clean. Nothing like that. Completely different, different circuits.
As I suspected. How does Classic Reverb compare to SSS btw? Kinda same but SSS is “bigger” or completely different?
@@ParanoidDaveOsbourne they are different. The 100w sss is cleaner, more refined. It’s difficult to explain. But they are different and more so the 150w I would expect. That’s something the CRS can’t replicate. But the CRS is still an amazing blackface derivate on steroids, in a nutshell.
Wow. Great job! Nice to have such a fantastic comparison of these two juggernauts. Sounds to me that the TC has a low to low mid focus and the CRS has a high mid to high focus. Wanted to ask 1) Is there a reason you chose the blackface gain structure on the CRS for this comparison? 2) Is the TC capable of brighter, chimeier highs than what you have it set for here? Thanks!
Hi!
1) because it was the most even comparison between the two amps, while still revealing the differences.
2) absolutely. There’s still treble to add, still a bright switch to add, and presence to add. Plenty of highs available here.
Thanks for watching!
I had a TC once and wasn’t happy with the reverb. It was unexpectedly noisy. People now will say something must have been wrong. But there wasn’t, you can also hear it in this video. I returned it.
The noise you hear is my noisy electric at home. Nothing to do with the reverb of the amps. The reverb is absolutely perfect. Something must have been up with the reverb of your amp. Did you get it checked by the two rock shop?
@@argbluesman I have a bunch of other tube amps in my studio including a TR Silver Sterling and they are all dead quiet with reverb on.
@@Michael-bm8hi did you replace the reverb tubes first before returning the amp? My traditional clean is dead quiet in terms of circuit. And my friend’s TC, the same.
@@argbluesman Replaced all the tubes. Swapped tubes. Checked the wires of the reverb tank. Turned the reverb tank around. Also checked with TR support (no much help coming from them). Any reverb setting above 2-3 was noisy. On stage certainly not a problem. For home use in a studio - no fun.
@@Michael-bm8hi hmm. I would have still sent the amp to them man. Might have been something else. Are you on the Facebook two rock group? I admin there and we get great results when some support is needed.
close, but sounds like the CRS has more depth and vibe and sparkle.. The TC seems less compressed and I do prefer a bit that at times, but the sag and bloom of CRS is seductive never-the less. I have a CRS and wouldn't switch based on what I hear here.. A lot of the forums rave at how much better the TC is, and how they all switched over, but I'm not hearing that here - quite the contraire
Yeah. I agree. The thing is that most people buy the TC because of the John Mayer thing. This amp is the Mayer signature platform. But it can do much more than that of course! And I see what you mean. People saying any amp is “better” just makes no sense. They are different. No amp is “better” than the other one. They are just different.
I bought the Traditional Clean because I wanted to save 1200 bucks. I recently played the CRS at the Dallas Guitar Show and i thought, oh man, I made a mistake!! You do a great job of showing the difference on here. The CRS is just a little more sparkly. If you turn up the presence on the TC, will it sound similar to the CRS? I know the CRS has the contour control on it so not sure if it is a presence or what exactly. Is there a pedal I could put in front of my TC that would make it more CRS??
Thank you!!!!
well, not really. They have some things in common but they are different in its core honestly. I’ve been playing both more intensely and they while they are blackface style, the CRS is much more blackface. The cleans of the tc are quite different. Not sure what you use. I use a Jan ray, quite transparent, a Klon clone, and a tube screamer based pedal (the kingtone soloist). Interesting to hear with each amp. Indeed the traditional clean is a bit warmer or rounder in some frequencies.
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