Agreed. I did not like the big trade when it happened. I was warming a lil bit, but right before the season opener at Boston I downgraded the Knicks to a 42 to 46 win team, bc of the inevitable loss of IHart, the lack of rim protection, the weak benchplay, the preseason injuries and the big trade. I hope I’m wrong. I hope they do get to 50 wins and go deeper in the postseason. But changes need to be made, they need to get healthy and the chemistry needs to develop. I hope I’m wrong, but nothing has changed my projection or my lowered expectations. I’ve been a Knick fan since the mid 80s. While other teams improved this off-season, I think the Knicks took a sideways move with all the trades and free agency. (Rearranging the chairs on the titanic) 🤷🏾♂️. I’m hoping for the best, but my expectations have been lowered. 😞 🫣
What else is new? History always repeats itself. Thibs always overplay his starters. The question remains which starter will get burned and injured first? Why not bring TJ Warren a solid veteran up to help this Knicks bench? 🤷🏾♂️
Got jacob toppin don't need old man Warren blame Tibs for injuring players but u guys still want him and praise him,u have to pick a side you can't have both
I hate to say it, but Thibs is a problem. It would be one thing if the rookies played & lost us the game. That's one thing. I can live with that. But running your starters into the ground (AGAIN) is just not acceptable. The owner needs to say something.
Both Knick comebacks only came when Jericho was in the game so must've done something right. Despite a bad game, Jericho's energy all over the floor disrupted the Rockets: +14 was best on whole team. The starters were all minus. Thibs tried out Kolek and he got burned at least 4x for scores; sorry, his d is not ready for prime time vs good teams like Hou yet. Chill. Problem's resolved as soon as Precious and Mitch comes back. Sims is lone rebounder out there, too, when he's in so gets sandwiched and thus nullified by two bigs thrown at him when the ball goes up. That stops when Precious returns.
I hope Mr Leon Rose fixed the NY Knicks roster soon, because HC Thibs is going back to his bad habit of playing his starters for more minutes and his bench players not playing well. The Knicks bench team is weak, this bad !
This is the problem i have with thibs, he doesn't realize the fatigue level of his players he, is inattentive to the fatigue level of the players. That is the very reason why players around the league say that he runs players to the ground. This is very concerning, how the hell does he expect to get thru the playoffs when halve the team is injured. I fear that this maybe a repeat of last season.
We have a lot of key injuries. Most of them are bench players, but I also feel like Thibs is on the clock this season. We need to see more in game adjustments rather than halftime adjustments. He needs to let the youth get some playing time and experience. I appreciate Thibs getting us this far, but we may need someone who can coach the Knicks over the top.
Knicks bench cause huge concerns? First of all every player on this roster were added to this roster and they acted like this is the powerhouse of a team that was going to compete with Boston. Second, what the heck do you expect Tibbs didn’t use any of the bench except for Kolek who only played 5 ridiculous minutes. What the heck do you expect?
I expect not to see mainly 7 players. I expect Thibs to use the bench when our starters are clearly gassed. Apologies for expecting our coach to do a bit more here with minutes management.
What bench he only plays sims duece and Payne what do you think is gonna happen duece and Payne are your only scorers wth gotta play hirkporti and kolak and dadiet
It didn't force him. He chose to. If every time KAT came out , he brought in Hakaporti at the five , and Sims at the 4, Hakaportis defense , and the starters fresher legs , would probably mean the Knicks would have won .
Thibs threw the game. Sims was abysmal, goaltended, and gave up 4 fouls/8 points in 11 minutes. Thibs stubborn refusal to even SEE for 5 minutes if Hukporti might be more effective was the decision between winning and losing this game, plain and simple. Sangun was running amok all night, not one player provided even the slightest resitance to anything he was trying to do, let alone Steven Adams or Dillon Brooks. Instead, Thibs puts in THE SMALLEST PLAYER ON THE TEAM, Miles McBride, against the bigger team that was being physical and pushing us around all night, and as a result, Deuce went 0-9. If Michael Jordan was a rookie on the Knicks, Thibs would keep him benched and let Jericho Sims play over him, just because he's a veteran. Rookies have to move heaven and earth to earn the smallest tidbit of minutes, be +49 in 3 milliseconds, but veterans can NEVER lose points, no matter how unefficient or ill-suited for the game they are. Thibs has never won a playoff coach and if he fails to adapt and change, and we fail to hold him accountable, it will continue to be that way. Thibs has shown he doesn't care and will push players to the point of injury if he feels he needs to in order to win a game.
SO LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT HERE, WE CAN BEAT ANYONE AFTER WE WIN A GAME BUT WHEN WE LOSE ITS THE REFS AND WE DIDNT PLAY TOUGH ENOUGH ETC… WE GOTTA STOP THIS. ITS CALLED A ROAD GAME FOR A REASON
The Rockets took it to us, there isn't any side stepping that. The starters playing that money minutes hurt us IMO. They had no lift in their legs. Playing the bench even 5 extra minutes could have helped. 7 man rotation mainly isn't going to led to wins consistently.
ITS NOT JUST KNICKS FANS WHO WATCH YOU OR ANY OTHER KNICKS SHOW OUT THERE. EVERY PLAYOFF LOSS WE CLAIM WE WOULD HAVE WON IF THIS, AND IF THAT- HAWKS-IF WE HAD MITCH HEAT-IF RANDLE WAS HEALTHY PACERS- IF WE WAS HEALTHY. SOMETIMES WE GOTTA JUST SAY THEY WAS THE BETTER TEAM THIS SERIES/TONIGHT TROY. THATS ALL IM SAYING. WE NEVER WON A SINGLE QTR VS ROCKETS.
I definitely understand he wasn't great on defense, got cooked at times for sure. But the counter to that is playing Brunson all game? I don't agree with that.
The NY Knicks🧡 can't be an NBA championship contender, they don't have a strong bench team. This season is early but "Fix the Knicks Bench Team" soon or before one of the starters gets injured. HC Thibs will be the blame like last season again. Leon Rose needs to fix it, now!
I feel it's too early for people to seem to be going into a panic mode or getting feelings of they are going to be a bad team I get people feeling Thibs over plays his players but it's just too early
It's too early for a 7-Man rotation too. I'm sorry, I can't get behind that. Game 6 and 40+ minutes with 3 points off the bench. We cannot win that way.
The refs were also controlling the game. Towns was getting fouled like crazy and they wouldn’t call the fouls. Towns kept screaming at them yelling “FOUL” and yelling “AND ONE” to get their attention to no avail. These damn games seem fixed. I’m also perplexed that Tibbs refuses to let his damn bench get any minutes. There is something definitely going on behind the scene with Tibbs because he just stands there with his arms crossed and doesn’t make any changes.
Referees typically don't appreciate a player constantly complaining about not getting foul calls. Rare to see a ref be influenced by a player crying foul.
the randle divo trade is the problem...we had more than enough...now we have no bench
Agreed. I did not like the big trade when it happened. I was warming a lil bit, but right before the season opener at Boston I downgraded the Knicks to a 42 to 46 win team, bc of the inevitable loss of IHart, the lack of rim protection, the weak benchplay, the preseason injuries and the big trade. I hope I’m wrong. I hope they do get to 50 wins and go deeper in the postseason. But changes need to be made, they need to get healthy and the chemistry needs to develop. I hope I’m wrong, but nothing has changed my projection or my lowered expectations. I’ve been a Knick fan since the mid 80s. While other teams improved this off-season, I think the Knicks took a sideways move with all the trades and free agency. (Rearranging the chairs on the titanic) 🤷🏾♂️. I’m hoping for the best, but my expectations have been lowered. 😞 🫣
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What else is new? History always repeats itself. Thibs always overplay his starters. The question remains which starter will get burned and injured first? Why not bring TJ Warren a solid veteran up to help this Knicks bench? 🤷🏾♂️
Ariel,Kolek trust them Thibs. When will he learn.
Got jacob toppin don't need old man Warren blame Tibs for injuring players but u guys still want him and praise him,u have to pick a side you can't have both
Hopefully thibs gets fired before anything really bad happens
FIRE THIBS! The worse thing was extending him
By this rate our starting 5 should be injured by the playoffs
I hate to say it, but Thibs is a problem. It would be one thing if the rookies played & lost us the game. That's one thing. I can live with that. But running your starters into the ground (AGAIN) is just not acceptable. The owner needs to say something.
Right got obi toppin on Hukporti on two way for nothing,he needs to be fired before I do something to him
Thank you
Both Knick comebacks only came when Jericho was in the game so must've done something right.
Despite a bad game, Jericho's energy all over the floor disrupted the Rockets:
+14 was best on whole team.
The starters were all minus.
Thibs tried out Kolek and he got burned at least 4x for scores; sorry, his d is not ready for prime time vs good teams like Hou yet.
Chill. Problem's resolved as soon as Precious and Mitch comes back. Sims is lone rebounder out there, too, when he's in so gets sandwiched and thus nullified by two bigs thrown at him when the ball goes up. That stops when Precious returns.
I hope Mr Leon Rose fixed the NY Knicks roster soon, because HC Thibs is going back to his bad habit of playing his starters for more minutes and his bench players not playing well.
The Knicks bench team is weak, this bad !
Jason , something is wrong with him , remember that they traded one of his best friends, best man at his wedding, the chemistry is gone
Jacob toppin and Dadiet had fresh legs,tibs needs to be let go🙏🙏🙏
tibs playing starters 40 minutes and not using Jacob toppin and Hukporti,tibs will be the downfall for the Knicks fire him plz 🙏🙏
The sooner thibs gets fired the better off the knicks will be
if they played Dadiet, Hukporti, & Tyler Kolek more the Knicks would’ve won.
U tripping but Jacob toppin was available,I don't know how u KI0wns continue to vouch for tibs
We need to see Matt Ryan sooner rather than later.
This is the problem i have with thibs, he doesn't realize the fatigue level of his players he, is inattentive to the fatigue level of the players. That is the very reason why players around the league say that he runs players to the ground. This is very concerning, how the hell does he expect to get thru the playoffs when halve the team is injured. I fear that this maybe a repeat of last season.
Something need to change
Moses Brown , what is going on with him, sometimes Thibs need to stop living in past , you need to play the youth.
We have a lot of key injuries. Most of them are bench players, but I also feel like Thibs is on the clock this season. We need to see more in game adjustments rather than halftime adjustments. He needs to let the youth get some playing time and experience. I appreciate Thibs getting us this far, but we may need someone who can coach the Knicks over the top.
There are ballers out there who can help the Knicks. Hope the organization and fans won't have buyers' remorse.
Does HC Thibs know what he is doing?
Does he trust his bench team, "Hell No 🔥"!
It's the same as last season that led to injuries to the starters.
Knicks bench cause huge concerns? First of all every player on this roster were added to this roster and they acted like this is the powerhouse of a team that was going to compete with Boston. Second, what the heck do you expect Tibbs didn’t use any of the bench except for Kolek who only played 5 ridiculous minutes. What the heck do you expect?
I expect not to see mainly 7 players. I expect Thibs to use the bench when our starters are clearly gassed. Apologies for expecting our coach to do a bit more here with minutes management.
What bench he only plays sims duece and Payne what do you think is gonna happen duece and Payne are your only scorers wth gotta play hirkporti and kolak and dadiet
It didn't force him. He chose to. If every time KAT came out , he brought in Hakaporti at the five , and Sims at the 4, Hakaportis defense , and the starters fresher legs , would probably mean the Knicks would have won .
This starting 5 is not ready
Thibs threw the game. Sims was abysmal, goaltended, and gave up 4 fouls/8 points in 11 minutes.
Thibs stubborn refusal to even SEE for 5 minutes if Hukporti might be more effective was the decision between winning and losing this game, plain and simple.
Sangun was running amok all night, not one player provided even the slightest resitance to anything he was trying to do, let alone Steven Adams or Dillon Brooks.
Instead, Thibs puts in THE SMALLEST PLAYER ON THE TEAM, Miles McBride, against the bigger team that was being physical and pushing us around all night, and as a result, Deuce went 0-9.
If Michael Jordan was a rookie on the Knicks, Thibs would keep him benched and let Jericho Sims play over him, just because he's a veteran.
Rookies have to move heaven and earth to earn the smallest tidbit of minutes, be +49 in 3 milliseconds, but veterans can NEVER lose points, no matter how unefficient or ill-suited for the game they are.
Thibs has never won a playoff coach and if he fails to adapt and change, and we fail to hold him accountable, it will continue to be that way. Thibs has shown he doesn't care and will push players to the point of injury if he feels he needs to in order to win a game.
100% true
Might well cut or trade Jericho Simms. He is not a good backup Center.
Get a replacement Center again.
Not a good bench no chance of the title
Agree we got no bench
SO LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT HERE, WE CAN BEAT ANYONE AFTER WE WIN A GAME BUT WHEN WE LOSE ITS THE REFS AND WE DIDNT PLAY TOUGH ENOUGH ETC… WE GOTTA STOP THIS. ITS CALLED A ROAD GAME FOR A REASON
The Rockets took it to us, there isn't any side stepping that. The starters playing that money minutes hurt us IMO. They had no lift in their legs. Playing the bench even 5 extra minutes could have helped. 7 man rotation mainly isn't going to led to wins consistently.
ITS NOT JUST KNICKS FANS WHO WATCH YOU OR ANY OTHER KNICKS SHOW OUT THERE. EVERY PLAYOFF LOSS WE CLAIM WE WOULD HAVE WON IF THIS, AND IF THAT- HAWKS-IF WE HAD MITCH HEAT-IF RANDLE WAS HEALTHY PACERS- IF WE WAS HEALTHY. SOMETIMES WE GOTTA JUST SAY THEY WAS THE BETTER TEAM THIS SERIES/TONIGHT TROY. THATS ALL IM SAYING. WE NEVER WON A SINGLE QTR VS ROCKETS.
Bro... TK was getting COOKED on defense! He scored 3 and got waxed for 4! That's USELESS! His impact was NEGATIVE.
I definitely understand he wasn't great on defense, got cooked at times for sure. But the counter to that is playing Brunson all game? I don't agree with that.
Jalen Brunson shot section was terrible in yesterday game I know it’s early but something just don’t seem right 🤔
The NY Knicks🧡 can't be an NBA championship contender, they don't have a strong bench team. This season is early but "Fix the Knicks Bench Team" soon or before one of the starters gets injured. HC Thibs will be the blame like last season again.
Leon Rose needs to fix it, now!
I feel it's too early for people to seem to be going into a panic mode or getting feelings of they are going to be a bad team I get people feeling Thibs over plays his players but it's just too early
It's too early for a 7-Man rotation too. I'm sorry, I can't get behind that. Game 6 and 40+ minutes with 3 points off the bench. We cannot win that way.
Thibs needs to be held accountable
all those minutes for what?
Knicks will win nothing with tobs as coach mark my words 💯
It's all Sims fault.
What kind of "relationship" does Thibs and Simms have off the basketball court? I'm calling for an INVESTIGATION. 🤔 REAL TALK.
Can we please get a real coach!
Huck should be in the starting lineup.....Hart off the bench He's not a starter .....Knicks would never win a ring with Hart as the starting PF.
Thibs is stubborn
Not going to win with Thibs
Look at Atkins in Cleavand , he makes adjustments on the fly and plays his bench
Tf is new 😂 Knicks fans kill me
The refs were also controlling the game. Towns was getting fouled like crazy and they wouldn’t call the fouls. Towns kept screaming at them yelling “FOUL” and yelling “AND ONE” to get their attention to no avail. These damn games seem fixed. I’m also perplexed that Tibbs refuses to let his damn bench get any minutes. There is something definitely going on behind the scene with Tibbs because he just stands there with his arms crossed and doesn’t make any changes.
Referees typically don't appreciate a player constantly complaining about not getting foul calls. Rare to see a ref be influenced by a player crying foul.