Doepfer A-196 PLL Phase Locked Loop Eurorack Demo
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Today we mess with the rather bonkers Doepfer A196 PLL module. Part VCO, part effect. Please support me on Patreon if you Enjoy these vids! ⚡ / mylarmelodies ⚡
More info: www.doepfer.de/...
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• 19. Phase-locked Loops
Much thanks to Ryan for being a Patreon supporter and commissioning this vid! / therapybanana
"Our complete lack of understanding shouldn't preclude us from doing some cool ass shit with it." Eurorack in a nutshell.
Yes, pll tracking is *charming* indeed 😊😆
you made the impossible, a musical demo of the pll
I pulled a couple of ne567 ICs out of an old telephone the other day. It is described as a tone decoder/phase locked loop in the datasheet... Which I figured would be great for synth circuits! I played around with it for a bit and got some vaguely similar results, sonically. I'll definitely be revisiting that concept after seeing a pll module. DON'T THROW AWAY OLD ELECTRONIC DEVICES WITHOUT LOOKING INSIDE FIRST! Anything we could ever want is being thrown away, right now.
The best explanation of PLL that I've heard is on the wiki. "As an analogy of a PLL, consider an auto race with two cars. One represents the input frequency, the other the PLL's output VCO frequency. Each lap corresponds to a complete cycle. The number of laps per hour (a speed) corresponds to the frequency. The separation of the cars (a distance) corresponds to the phase difference between the two oscillating signals.
During most of the race, each car is on its own and free to pass the other and lap the other. This is analogous to the PLL in an unlocked state.
However, if there is an accident, a yellow caution flag is raised. This means neither of the race cars is permitted to overtake and pass the other car. The two race cars represent the input and output frequency of the PLL in a locked state. Each driver will measure the phase difference (a distance in laps) between himself and the other race car. If the hind driver is far away, he will increase his speed to close the gap. If he's too close to the other car he will slow down. The result is that both race cars will circle the track in lockstep with minimum phase difference between them. Since neither car is allowed to lap the other, the cars make the same number of laps in a given time period. Therefore the frequency of the two signals is the same."
bless you
Just got a PLL, so I'm watching this video to get a grip on where to start.
I really like your videos. They have a funny twist, and they show what I need to know without wasting an hour of my life. Your voice is nice to listen to as well! Keep up the good work.
who the f^?k are you? where have you been? Why haven't I found your channel much much earlier? awesome videos! I mean - really awesome!
I been here busy making dem vids x
+1
@@mylarmelodies I can't write a private message to you on here but please contact Erik Dower of Metabolic Devices after having a look at his new Moonwalker module, I've got one & it's nuts for music as well as LZX video Synthesis. I know he's had some difficulty finding the right person who can make a good video for it. I think you can based solely on the A-196 video. I'll delete this message in 24 hrs.
Thanks a a lot! I wonder what happens if you compare really complex sounds, like 2 music tracks, or at least one music track/field recording & one easier to track square/saw.... is it just a harsh-mess-noise or still some bubbly adorable quaks?
Great stuff as always!
Bought the A-196 purely because of this video. Ace.
I think hes just sold me one too :)
hey i bought four of them to go polyphonic
11:25...a slice of pure ace! Great vids. Thank you.
You have the most expressive hands in modular!
"our complete lack of understanding should not stop us from doing cool as shit"
omg this module, some Rungler and resonant feedbacks should summon all the demons ever depicted by human beeings 🤯
I love how the PLL is like -____-
I hope to hear your voice when I die. With some cool patches ofc
+Gradient Echo Ha - No one can ever top Morgan Freeman for the narration of your life
+jeppy cuppa in hand and "cool ass shit" :-)
I've got his voice on Music Things' "Radio Music" running randomly!
+ian jones Really?! Video or it didn't happen...
Send me the files for this!!
"It tries to sing along - which it can't" sad story bro
Is the "squonk" on the PLL related to the "woggle" on the wogglebug?
They are at least related; they're both using the same chip, the 4046 CMOS PLL.
the patch from 9:30 onward sounds like a Battles riff on a synth, it's nuts!
so much
I bought battles B ep from dim mak without knowing anything about them what seems like a long time ago
Ha, we just need a John Stainer module now...I'll put my cymbal right at the top of the modular too
mylarmelodies that should do the trick, the 2 meter cymbal height is important. I think you already have all the necessary stuff to make completely indecipherable lyrics too, so almost there!
Clouds FTW
I finally understand how dividing the loop multiplies the frequency. The phase comparator needs to generate more voltage to the VCO to match the reference frequency since the phase comparator is listening to the divided signal. It's like change the gears on a bicycle.
Actually there's a clone of this module in vcv rack. I was intruiged since it appeared, but never managed getting anything musical out of it. Now, after watching this I think I gave up prematurely. Thank you for the demo Cheers!
Been watching your videos for a few years. Revisited this one tonight... didn't sell me the module, but you did earn a new Patreon supporter!
You do great work here, and it is appreciated.
(How's that for return on a six year old video?)
I say amen - thanks for being aboard!! 🙌
"It sounds like an angry puppy."
What kind of puppies are you encountering? I need to get one!
OMG! You are the first person, apart from Germans..., that I have heard pronounce the name "Doepfer" correctly... I doff (or is that "Doerf"?) my cap you sir!!
Andrew Brooks Derp derp derpfer
that last sequence is just nuts, love it
sounds like the "track" switch in the sherman filterbanks, lovely sounds to get out of it :)
That is exactly the opposite of what I need. I have a Lyra-8 that I want to turn into something chromatic. I would like a module that locks the phase of the external signal (the Lyra-8) to the frequency I set in the internal oscillator of the module. I wonder if something like that exists...
Ooh, I like that "angry puppy" patch idea.
A PLL is a great addition to your rack if you like making abrasive and ugly clustercusses of snarl.
The bounce on the PLL is really a feature tbh
It's great to have new stuff from you... Thank you and I'll look into donating
I don’t think you mentioned how exactly you have to patch the pll to the clock divider
a196 was one of my first modules and I love it - this is the best ever demo created for it, definitely going to be pointing people here from now on.
After binge watching your channel for the last couple of days I have ascertained two things. One: I would really like to get into modular synthesis. Two: I cannot afford to get into modular synthesis.
🙌 Have a free virtual Eurorack system for your computer on me then! vcvrack.com
Awesome! I love sloppy tracking so I love my PLL and Synchrodyne with Expand (though I admit haven't had enough time to fully figure it out yet). Just adds that extra bit of uniqueness even if only mixing with straight VCOs through a filter. For the same reasons I enjoy using tracked noise like syncing Erica Black Digital Noise or Malekko Noisering to a square VCO. Fun stuff! The recent Modular Podcast on VCOs totally skipped over both these options. Thanks for jumping in the fill some of the gap.
ACE!!
Great video, I love the A196, I like the part where you put the Radio Music through it, will be giving that a go later on!
Yeah!! It's nice how it gets it wrong - the different modes have to be tried, you always can predict how it's going to be doing what it's doing
Nice demo!
PLL + Euclidean Gate triggering = ?
hot damn loved that bit at the end, many thanks
Currently deciding if I'd make better use of the HP with one Doepfer PLL or two NLC Vactrol-PiLL's - I still think Doepfer gets the edge because of that LPF to clean up the sound & sparing my other filters...
But mannn; if crosspatching two Vactrol-PiLL's doesn't sound like an audio manglers good time, then idk what does. 🤔
ha, defo a get both scenario
This is a brilliant demo. Well done, sir.
I have a 4MS Atoner. It's almost but not quite these things. Every now and then though. OMG! You have a brain storm and realise it's a clock divider as well.... and it takes any audio input and clock divides it!
Not only that but it's a voltage controlled clock divider!
So nice to hear that voice again.
Your Erica Synths Black Wavetable VCO has the "Bitchrush" spelling error panel - Collectible! Retirement income!
Very entertaining. I think I heard some formant mayhem in there. Great demo. I'm getting an Elta Music PLL-4046 phase locked loop pedal, made in Moscow, by UPS in a few days. After watching this video, I'm inspired to run my Piitsburgh Modular Lifeforms System 201 through it. Also what a PLL will do to a drum machine.
"Its like an angry puppy"......Thats such a brilliant analogy
Any recommendations on a sequencer I’m currently using the doepfer MSQ 16
I'd be interested to know if the tracking VCO of a PLL has to use a linear CV. The idea of the phase comparator is to produce an error, or adjustment voltage that when fed into the VCO will adjust the frequency so that the frequencies of the two signals being compared match. If that would work with a 1v/oct VCO, then that adjustment voltage could be fed into an additional VCO tuned anywhere you like-- and at that point you have a frequency shifter that can track the second VCO at an offset that can be less than an octave. And theoretically, with a clean input signal converted to a square wave, you'd have a crude pitch-to-voltage converter that would produce a 1v/oct tracking output.
Those angry puppies sound just like my 4ms Noise Swash, great video as always. Inspiring stuff
squawnk
The way you smacked that blind panel was Pulitzer-worthy
thanks a lot for this video - i've been considering filling my last empty HP for a while with this module. I tried patching up a manual PLL in my small system and got some great abrasive noise but only about 4 semitones worth of passable tracking. I pretty frequently use the disting's pitch/envelope detector a lot for similar purposes. I like pairing my main sound source(s) with what I think of as a drunk sister oscillator from not cleanly filtering the pitch detect input or put through a little delay with feedback or something.
when the PLL is playing with the atlantis starting at 9:30, as you increased the tempo and then added the reverb... fuckin chills man
If i connected the low pass out to a quantizer, could i then use the pll as an pitch to cv converter? I would love to sync the frequency of MI Elements to the pitch of my guitar, when i use elements as an effect for it, or use an electric bass as a controller to play synth bass lines. Have you tried doing that?
Ace.
Very overlooked module! Now I want it...thanks 😧
5:24 Go here if you want to hear what R2D2 would sound like on acid.
Great demo thank you. I have a Syncrodyne by WMD and it's one of my favourite Vco's.
man, that sequence with multiplication sounds awesome!
by the way, can you make the pll sound like a suboctave guitar pedal by feeding two signals an octave apart to the comparator?
A-111-6 and a PLL and i'll see you fools later
i've come back to this video to help decide between this and a Low Pass Gate. it didn't help, they both sound awesome
what i like from you is while we learn you do music :-) pretty cool for Techno riffs
The last part with the sine wave sounded like a didgeridoo or something vocal!
Loved the vid as always, what cables are those funky colored ones?
Really cool. Thanks for the demo. Have to get me one as well !
“Sounds like an angry puppy”
What do you do to your puppies my friend? 😂
This was a great demo of this strange little beast. Oh, and the module explanation was good too =)
Could you do a how-to pitch track video with the PLL.
For someone concerned enough to make a video about installing modules incorrectly and blowing them up, you have nothing to say about how easily this is done with the A-196 PLL. FYI, evidently in Doepfer-ville, the PCB marking C12 means -12. Snap! then...magic smoke!!
I throw ALL Doepfer under the bus when it comes to how easy it is to destroy it is!
archived to the favorites.
Well yeah... Now I want one!
Yesterday I watched this video again and decided I have to have it. Today my new module arrived!
🙌
12:28!!!!!!! holy shit.
Super awesome demo!
BRILLIANT!!!
Nice to see another video from you :) Hand gestures are a good addition hehe hey i like your green braided cable, where did you got it? Ebay?
Fenks - those are Arturia Beatstep Pro special edition cables! Mutable certainly do similar packs you can get individually tho?
You can get these cables from ginkosynthese.com. Maybe not exactly the ones in the video but they are braided.
yes, the Doepfer PLL is doing some really weird sounds if but in its proper business (PLL) transposing signals up the analog way it is pretty limited and does not work well. WMD is doing better.
Dope!