Wally West and Kyle Rayner will forever be robbed of media representation even though they made the characters relevant to today's standard with the help of Grant Morrison.
I think Kyle Rayner would be a very interesting choice for a Green Lantern pitch, since the character is kind off a reboot of the GL concept, instead of being part of a bigger world, like Hal Jordan, Stewart or Gardner, he's the chosen one, the last of his kind after his predecessor's fall and the first of many, not to mention that he goes through the hero's journey with the mentorship of the remaining guardian, pretty much like Luke Skywalker. Of course, he's also part of the JL line-up during one of their most famous runs.
@@Razertheblueandred His iteration is also the first one to use the lantern's construct for heavy machineries that other lanterns does these days like mech armors and outrageous big guns, because his era as the prime lantern was the peak of edginess. Kyle's likable personality was basically rebooted, copied and pasted to Hal Jordan after the crisis event 😓
Kyle Rayner wouldn’t forever be robbed of media representation and if they change Wally West’s codename, then Wally West won’t for ever be robbed of media representation.
Great video. I love how you did a lot of research for this video. It is kinda sad how you were forced to scrape the bottom of the barrel for certain characters. It's really sad how the "best" of each character isn't even a good character, it's only because of default.
felt really unreal when you said "third season of stargirl" since i pretty much heard nothing about it since before it came out and pretty much forgot about it's existence up until this point
It's a shame, because it's a fantastic show, but it's true that not many people are watching it... "Swamp Thing" was another great DC show that only got one season before getting cancelled, which is a crying shame. "Constantine" also got only one season (and it was pretty good), but at least Matt Ryan got picked up by Arrow & Legends of Tomorrow to keep playing the character in live action, and he became the voice of Constantine in the DCAMU & in the pretty cool CW animated movie "City of Demons" (can't wait for his upcoming solo animated movie, "The House of Mystery" coming out soon... in a few days I believe)
Come on DC bring Plastic Man into Live Action whether or not it's in the CW or the DCEU, The DCEU needs a comic relief character and Plastic Man is perfect for that role I would love if he was in Black Adam but I doubt they even considered him considering, no one even knows who he is anymore unlike the other heroes confirmed to be in the movie
Pierce Brosnan as Doctor Fate is actually genius casting. I never would have even thought of him as Doctor Fate until I read about the announcement and I was like oh yes definitely. It was a surprise to be sure, but a welcome one at that. I also have to mention how much i adore Brenton Thwaites as Nightwing. Titans has some quite bad writing sometimes, but Brenton portrays Dick Grayson so well and I’m so glad that we have his version of Nightwing. The beginning scene of season 3 where they take down that lab is just pure Nightwing.
@@stevengreenwood7415 - I only remember watching the episode in which the main character starts dating a Riddler henchman and that was pretty funny. Then Bruce's cousin or something starts cosplaying as Robin or something? Premise of the show wasn't bad, but I didn't get invested enough to follow it.
It would be cool if you do definitive versions of Batman characters including animation and videogam For me Nolan: Batman, Gordon Gotham:, Alfred, Thin Penguin BTAS: Twoface, Harley, Clayf Arkham: Catwoman, Barbara, Poison Ivy, Deadshot ,Penguin, Riddler, Bane, Ras , Nr Freeze, Croc, Joker YJ: Nightwing Arrow: Deathstroke, Crazy Deadshot Burton: Crazy Penguin, Crazy Catwoman
Great video I cant wait for part 3 hope you do a live action legion of doom line up or an ultimate Arkham asylum (bat rouges) line up since there has been multiple versions of certain characters in recent years
Brendan’s version isn’t an awful leader or person he’s well intentioned and he tries his best They wanted to try something different He’s flawed he’s human That’s not a bad thing It’s ok to make mistakes
I do enjoy your videos greatly, however Dick Grayson pre new 52 was a pretty terrible guy. I mean he told Barbra that he and Starfire we're getting married and he gives her the invite THE MORNING AFTER THEY SLEEP TOGETHER, but I do agree that Titans should go to the Spider-Man attitude twords Nightwing.
He was a flawed character, but I wouldn't say he's a terrible guy just based on that. There's additional context, and it balances out all the heroic stuff he's pulled to protect Bludhaven from Blockbuster.
I know u already made a reconstruction of how the DCEU should look but with this ultimate justice league , would you redo the DCEU with these characters if u could ?
The 1966 Batgirl was the best Batgirl tbh. I KNOW IT’S WEIRD TOO SAY but since the Batgirl movie is cancelled,The Birds of Prey and Titians Barbara aren’t actually Batgirl and The BAR Batgirl is trash,You gotta go with it
just cancel most of the cw actors because all of them suck, they dont look like the characters, they dont feel like the characters, and they mostly humanwash them by making them completely different skintones and ethnicity like??? since they are updating Atom Smasher it is more than likely that everyone from the cw show will be gone which IM SUPER HAPPY ABOUT (except for grant gustin he's perfect as the flash) hopefully this brand new reboot will give dc a chance at having a good cinematic universe
Shows what you know savannah Welch’s version literally states in an episode that she used to be batgirl until the joker paralyzed her You didn’t do enough research Also what you said were terrible They weren’t they just tried to be different
Wally West and Kyle Rayner will forever be robbed of media representation even though they made the characters relevant to today's standard with the help of Grant Morrison.
I think Kyle Rayner would be a very interesting choice for a Green Lantern pitch, since the character is kind off a reboot of the GL concept, instead of being part of a bigger world, like Hal Jordan, Stewart or Gardner, he's the chosen one, the last of his kind after his predecessor's fall and the first of many, not to mention that he goes through the hero's journey with the mentorship of the remaining guardian, pretty much like Luke Skywalker. Of course, he's also part of the JL line-up during one of their most famous runs.
@@anderurteaga3707 I agree with you so much, but sadly I don't think they'll ever choose Kyle 😞
Yeah. During the first Parallax event, Kyle was the main GL, not Hal. Wally was the Flash for a good 20-25 YEARS before Barry came back.
@@Razertheblueandred His iteration is also the first one to use the lantern's construct for heavy machineries that other lanterns does these days like mech armors and outrageous big guns, because his era as the prime lantern was the peak of edginess. Kyle's likable personality was basically rebooted, copied and pasted to Hal Jordan after the crisis event 😓
Kyle Rayner wouldn’t forever be robbed of media representation and if they change Wally West’s codename, then Wally West won’t for ever be robbed of media representation.
Great video. I love how you did a lot of research for this video. It is kinda sad how you were forced to scrape the bottom of the barrel for certain characters. It's really sad how the "best" of each character isn't even a good character, it's only because of default.
Just so you know for the future, Fire appeared in the short-lived show, Powerless. She was played by Natalie Morales.
felt really unreal when you said "third season of stargirl" since i pretty much heard nothing about it since before it came out and pretty much forgot about it's existence up until this point
It's a shame, because it's a fantastic show, but it's true that not many people are watching it... "Swamp Thing" was another great DC show that only got one season before getting cancelled, which is a crying shame.
"Constantine" also got only one season
(and it was pretty good),
but at least Matt Ryan got picked up by Arrow & Legends of Tomorrow to keep playing the character in live action, and he became the voice of Constantine in the DCAMU & in the pretty cool CW animated movie "City of Demons"
(can't wait for his upcoming solo animated movie, "The House of Mystery" coming out soon... in a few days I believe)
14:10 she actually mentioned being Batgirl until the Joker shot her during her little argument with Bruce
Yah I was thinking that whilst watching the vid you’re a true real one for pointing it out though, respect
There was actually a failed Blue Beetle pilot too
That guy looked great as Blue Beetle
You should make a video where you structure a superhero cinematic universe without any limitations. Marvel, DC, doesn’t matter
Hello I love your vids, thanks for making a second part to this one.
Come on DC bring Plastic Man into Live Action whether or not it's in the CW or the DCEU, The DCEU needs a comic relief character and Plastic Man is perfect for that role I would love if he was in Black Adam but I doubt they even considered him considering, no one even knows who he is anymore unlike the other heroes confirmed to be in the movie
Firestorm deserves to appear in DCEU since the 2016 Suicide Squad included one of Firestorm's enemies known as Slipknot
I forgot he was in that movie cuz he did nothing but die
@@BaulFoodmanedits he died trying to escape
@@tonyantonellis9983 because boomerang wanted to see if the bombs were real
@@BaulFoodmanedits sounds unreasonable
Pierce Brosnan as Doctor Fate is actually genius casting. I never would have even thought of him as Doctor Fate until I read about the announcement and I was like oh yes definitely. It was a surprise to be sure, but a welcome one at that. I also have to mention how much i adore Brenton Thwaites as Nightwing. Titans has some quite bad writing sometimes, but Brenton portrays Dick Grayson so well and I’m so glad that we have his version of Nightwing. The beginning scene of season 3 where they take down that lab is just pure Nightwing.
Keiynan Lonsdale didn’t portray Wally West, he portrayed Wallace West.
Will Batwoman be added in the ultimate justice league list?
Savanna was batgirl before season 3 episode 1 confirmed it when she snapped on Bruce
Nice vid!
RIP BATGIRL MOVIE. 🙏🏽 🪦
Crimson Fox who is a member of the Justice League Europe made one appearance in live action on the show powerless
Fire also appeared in that show as the Green Flame for an episode
@@daltoncohn2861 which was the characters original superhero name before it was changed to fire which makes it a second live action appearance.
@@stevengreenwood7415 - I only remember watching the episode in which the main character starts dating a Riddler henchman and that was pretty funny. Then Bruce's cousin or something starts cosplaying as Robin or something?
Premise of the show wasn't bad, but I didn't get invested enough to follow it.
@@randallflagg3700 fair enough, the show was canceled after season one due to poor ratings. That was the best part of the series.
It would be cool if you do definitive versions of Batman characters including animation and videogam
For me
Nolan: Batman, Gordon
Gotham:, Alfred, Thin Penguin
BTAS: Twoface, Harley, Clayf
Arkham: Catwoman, Barbara, Poison Ivy, Deadshot ,Penguin, Riddler, Bane, Ras , Nr Freeze, Croc, Joker
YJ: Nightwing
Arrow: Deathstroke, Crazy Deadshot
Burton: Crazy Penguin, Crazy Catwoman
Yo let’s go bro, I loved the first one
Great video I cant wait for part 3 hope you do a live action legion of doom line up or an ultimate Arkham asylum (bat rouges) line up since there has been multiple versions of certain characters in recent years
i’m pretty sure there was another version of doctor light in titans, he helped death-stroke capture robin
Fire was on Powerless
The birds of prey batgirl suit is pretty awesome.
Fire made a second live action appearance in the show powerless
That was quick… not complaining though love your content
Good video
dude the batgirl movie got cancelled
You didn’t exclude Wallace West who is a character in The New 52.
Amazing as always, suggestion: your version of the legends of tomorrow team line up if you were the one choosing the characters
I’ll answer that question for you, You can’t and shouldn’t consider Keiynan Lonsdale based off Wally West, because he’s based off of Wallace West.
You should do this but for the legion of doom. That'd be really good
Do any of them have enough appearances for that?
You should do a justice League dark one
And Teen Titans and JSA and Birds of prey
Brendan’s version isn’t an awful leader or person he’s well intentioned and he tries his best
They wanted to try something different
He’s flawed he’s human
That’s not a bad thing
It’s ok to make mistakes
brendan is actually a good robin and nightwing for me. I just wish the series wasn't so rushed and had some better writing
Can you do one for the DC villains?!!
Wait edge played atom smasher 😮
Savanah welsh was batgirl she just stopped when she lost her leg and she got paralyzed by joker
Actually savannah welch was Batgirl in the Titans universe, I haven't finished the video yet so if you do correct your self later on then my bad
6:00 welp....
Wally West hasn’t appeared in live action at all for now.
I do enjoy your videos greatly, however Dick Grayson pre new 52 was a pretty terrible guy. I mean he told Barbra that he and Starfire we're getting married and he gives her the invite THE MORNING AFTER THEY SLEEP TOGETHER, but I do agree that Titans should go to the Spider-Man attitude twords Nightwing.
He was a flawed character, but I wouldn't say he's a terrible guy just based on that. There's additional context, and it balances out all the heroic stuff he's pulled to protect Bludhaven from Blockbuster.
what sucks is that hes supposed to be a great person, but you've got writers that make him out be be like this
14:28 that didn’t age well, like at all
Cloris Leachman? No way!
Pierce Brosnan is definitely the best Doctor Fate! Now that Black Adam has released, it pretty much says it.
There is another Doctor Light in Titans Season 2
James Marsden Fancast as Starman or Booster Gold Or Animal Man
I know u already made a reconstruction of how the DCEU should look but with this ultimate justice league , would you redo the DCEU with these characters if u could ?
also you gotta do the villains
sadly the batgirl movie was cancelled
The supergirl show is heartwarming comforting sweet wholesome and that makes it great
My opinions on a lot of these best versions would be controversial
Personally I think Doom Patrol cyborg is being that’s all I have to say
If this was a show I’d watch The hell out of it
Dr light was in titans arson 3 I think
Fire had another live action version but she is called Green furry from Powerless
Along with other heros like Crimson Fox and Olympain
0:41
Who is in the lineup?
casting is amazing dude u should do story fanfictions
Dr Fate was in the costantine show
No he wasn't... we just see his helmet as the millhouse once, kind of as an Easter Egg...
Awsome
you should make the worst version of them
Forgot dr light from titans?
You haven't watched batman tv show
Can u do a legion of doom version?
14:45 ooffffffff
Didn't Atom Smasher appear on Superman and Louis as a villain?
What about dr fate in the stargirl series
Please do Batman villain's next or legion of doom
u got the titans info wrong she was both they state that
I can tell you have not seen much of Smallville. Laura Vandervoort is easily the best super girl
Wally West hasn’t appeared in live action at all.
He appears in flash
The 1966 Batgirl was the best Batgirl tbh. I KNOW IT’S WEIRD TOO SAY but since the Batgirl movie is cancelled,The Birds of Prey and Titians Barbara aren’t actually Batgirl and The BAR Batgirl is trash,You gotta go with it
Leslie isn't Barbs she's Madeline Le May she's also another batgirl
You should have excluded “Wally West” on your picture of The Ultimate Live Action Justice League, because he isn’t truly Wally West.
just cancel most of the cw actors because all of them suck, they dont look like the characters, they dont feel like the characters, and they mostly humanwash them by making them completely different skintones and ethnicity like??? since they are updating Atom Smasher it is more than likely that everyone from the cw show will be gone which IM SUPER HAPPY ABOUT (except for grant gustin he's perfect as the flash) hopefully this brand new reboot will give dc a chance at having a good cinematic universe
Yeah, the reason why we will never see to original Wally West kid Flash. Is because he is a Red head and Hollywood hates red heads.
Yea legend is canceled buddy. Both the arrowverse and The CW is dead
Shows what you know savannah Welch’s version literally states in an episode that she used to be batgirl until the joker paralyzed her
You didn’t do enough research
Also what you said were terrible
They weren’t they just tried to be different